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A75414 An Answer to a scandalous paper, wherein were some queries given to be answered. And likewise, therein is found many lies and slanders, and false accusations against those people whom he (and the world) calls Quakers. Dated from Dorchester in New-England, August 17. 1655. subscribed, Edward Breck, which was directed to a people at Rainforth in Lancashire, which he calls, A church of Christ. The truth is cleared of his scandalls, lies, and slanders, and he found to bee a reproacher of the Church of Christ. His paper and quæries answered by those people called, Quakers. 1656 (1656) Wing A3345A; Thomason E875_4; ESTC R206566 30,171 38

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hath made him a lyar because he beleeved not the Record that God gave of his Son and this is the Record that God hath given unto us eternall life And thou that hath no life but what is in the Scriptures hath not the Record of God for the Record of God is eternall life and he that hath the Son hath life and he that hath not the Son hath not life and this we witness fulfilled and manifested in us And so now read and see where thou art who knows no life but the Scriptures and saith that Christ hath promised eternall life in the Scriptures and here thou hast manifested thy self not to beleeve the Record that God hath given of his Son and so makes God a lyar And Christ Jesus is the Light and Way and Life and ever was of all his children But thou and all who looks upon the Scriptures to be the Way and Light and Life hath found out another Way and hath wrested the Scriptures to your own destruction and abrogated them as thou speaks and denies the end for which they were given forth which is for the perfecting of the Man of God and so here thou art found preaching another Gospel then Christ Jesus and the Apostles did and art to be holden accursed And here thou art found tottering upon a sandy Foundation whereon thou cannot stand but the Rock on which the whole Church is built Christ Iesus of whom all the Prophets bears witness and on whom all the Prophets and Apostles is built do we stand unmoveable And he who was the faithfull and true VVitness who was dead is alive whose Name is called the VVord of God which VVord was in the beginning by which VVord the worlds were made and without him nothing was made that was made he is rison who teacheth his people himself who is the Shepherd of his sheep who hath given his life for his sheep who doth give unto his sheep eternall life But thou art none of his sheep who faith eternal life is in the Scriptures And upon this Rock of Ages doth the quakers stand which thou hast uttered forth and vented so much envie and reproach upon Upon this Rock on which they stand shalt thou and all such Profeslion as thou lives in and all your feigned Humiliation and feigned Faith and perishing Hope upon this Rock shall you all be dashed to pieces And though thou makes a scorn and a scoff of quaking and trembling yet before him shall all Nations tremble and the Rocks rend and the Mountains melt and the Hills be removed for he is risen that shakes terribly the earth but this thou art ignorant of who art not yet come so far as the Devills who do beleeve and tremble and before ever thou do know the living God and Jesus Christ to be thy Saviour thou shalt witness quaking and shaking down thy unclean nature which is now head in thee and if ever thou come to hear the dreadfull voice of the Almighty it will make thy filthy lying deceitfull Spirit that speaks in the to shake and quake for dreadfull is the Lord to the wicked and all that can be shaken must be done away that that which cannot be shaken may remain But though thou talk and professeth the Scripture in words yet thou art utterly ignorant of them and the plain words that they speak and this that thou calls thy light and thy Life and thy Rule thou shalt finde wil come to utter ruine when Christ Jesus who is the Corner-Stone which all ye builders refuseth and disallows shall stand and endure for ever though he be for a Stone of stumbling and a Rock of offence to such as thee but he is become the head of our corner on whom was are built and founded rooted and grounded unmoveable for evermore Glory and Praises be to the living powerfull God for evermore And thou exhorts them in the latter end of thy Paper to be set in the Faith and Worship of God but hou confesseth thou knows not nor doth not determine what it is whether it be the Presbyterian way or the Independant way and so thou hast left them tottering indeed as thou art thy self and thou and thy Religion is sure to come to utter ruine that hath no better foundation for thou sets them to two wayes to take whether they will which makes thee clearly manisest that thou knows not the truth at all for the truth is but one and the way to it is but one and thou who art exhorting them hath thy way to seek yet and thou who out of the way which is but one must needs be in the erros among the Sects and Opinions which is the broad way but in the way of truth there is no division for the light is one and the way one and the life one and the faith one and the baptism one and one Spirit and one Lord but this thou art ignorant of who knows nothing but the Letter without thee But in the very close of thy Paper thou tells them of the Law of God ingraven upon their hearts Thou might do well to look into that Law in thy own particular and search and examine there in thy own conscience and see whether thou hve given thy Paper forth from that which God hath written there or thou hath had it from other Records without thee it may be in other Nations Alack for thee thou art rude indeed for thou hast compassed sea and land for these Stories that thou hast told in this Paper and if thou could but get one Proselyte made by these lyes and slanders they might very well be seven fold more the childe of the Devill But now thou hast rambled up and down far distant and from various Reports it is wel thou art come home now in the latter end Now thou art come to the Law written in the heart stay here a while and turn thy minde to that of God in thy conscience which he hath written in thy heart and that wil teach thee another lesson then to lye and slander and falsly accuse back-bite reproach and scandall this Teacher will teach thee none of this but this will reprove thee and shew thee the evill of thy doings and the deceit of thy heart and the enmity and envy that lodgeth there against those which never did thee wrong To this Teacher thou must come and to this thou must stand or fall for he will be no more removed into a corner He is the swift Witness which cometh near to Judgement and beareth witness against the Sorcerer and against the Adulterer and false Swearer and against them that turn aside the stranger from his right and fears not the Lord of Hosts Therefore consider what thou hast been doing all this while and fear the Lord God and hearken to the voice that calls behinde thee saying This is the way walk in it and send not thine ear to the wicked and so come to partake of their sins
never found guilty of But it was alwayes the portion of the Elect of God to receive from by generation such slanders and accusations as thou hast here vented in thy Paper which hath made thee manifest to be none of Gods Elect nor none of that Faith neither can they abide in that which they never came in So thou dost but utter forth thy folly in thy Exhortation And thou goes on in thy confusion and vanity and thou askest three questions and thou answerest two of them thy self according to thy folly emptiness and shallowness and in the third thou hast set thy self fast and knows not how to get out and so thou leaves us to answer it and so it is like we shall answer a fool according to his folly First Thou askest by whom do we hope to besaved We deny the ground of thy Answer and we answer from another ground and principle which thou art ignorant of and art an enemie to We hope to be saved by CHRIST JESUS who is the Light of the world and hath lighted every man but cometh into the world and this Light is thy condemnation who saith the Leeter is the Light and so the same CHRIST JESUS which dyed at Jerusalem which witnessed a good Confestion before Pontius Pilate who is the way to the Father the Light hath leads to life this is our Saviour and the same that saves us condemns thee who loveth darkness rather then Light because thy deeds are evill Secondly Thou askest how we came to know there was ever such a man in the world And this thou answers according to thy publike faith from a Testimony without thee but we deny thy Answer and our answer is That we know that the Son of God is come who hath given us an understanding and we know him that is true And hereby we know that we dwell in him and he in us because he hath given us of his Spivit and we have seen and do testifie that the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world And we know that we are of God and the whole world lyes in wickedness and we are in him that is true even in his Son Iesus Christ this is the true God and eternall life He that hath an car let him hear but thy car which should hear is deaf Thirdly thou saith If Christ be the Saviour and that the light and knowledge of him doth spring from Holy Scripture thou asketh whether the Scriptures be any Rule of Faith and Life in these dayes or are they ahorgated and put an end to by Christ And hath he appointed another way for bringing his Elect to eternall salvation This quaery thou saith thou must leave to your selves to answer only sayest thou for my part I know no other way to come to Christ my Saviour then the Holy Scriptures which he hath commanded me to search and in which he promiseth life eternall and wherein he curseth all men that addeth to or detracteth from them what you have to say to these things I know not but this I know that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Iesus execrable and what do they else that-vilifie and slight his word and Ordinances and depends upon a Spirit which crosseth and contradicteth Christ and his word and Ordinances Answer In this quaery thou hast given a Testimony of thy Light and of thy Spirit and of thy Way and of thy Faith and of thy God for thou hast taken Christ Jesus among the rest and hath belyed him in plain words now in the latter end of thy Paper And thou art so blind led with the God of the world which hath so blinded thy eye sure thou thinks all looks with that blind eye as thou doth Thou confesseth that thou hast none other Light but the Scriptures and yet thou art run away from it and art now adding to it and thou saith thy self he curseth all men that addeth to it therefore own thy portion now when thou seeth thy self there for thou art now so blinde thou sees not where thou art but when thou cometh to a search thou wilt finde thy self there Where is it that Christ promiseth thee eternall life in searching the Scriptures Doth not Christ say in the verse before Ye have not his word abiding in you for whom he hath sent him ye believe not Thou hast made it manifest what life thou hast but it is no wonder seeing thou hast no other Light nor no other Way to come to Salvation nor no other life but what thou hast out of Scriptures Thou art dead in sin but it is no wonder Oh that thou dare so belye Christ Jesus Doth not that Scripture say on which thou builds these words Search the Scriptures for in them ye think to have eternall life and they are they which testifie of me but ye will not come unto me that ye may have life Doth he say here that life is in the Scriptures or doth he say that he is the Scriptures when he saith ye will not come to me that ye may have life And art not thou here found thinking to have eternall life in the Scriptures and wilt not come to Christ that thou may have life and this he spoke to the Scribes and Pharisees who were in the same life that thou art in to whom he said they had neither heard his voice at any time nor seen his shape but this is all the life that thou knows And thou speaks of god walking in the midst of the seven Golden Candlesticks but he doth not walk in the midst of the midst of thy Candlesticks who hath no Light but the Scriptures and before thou see the seven Golden Candlesticks and he that walks in the midst of them thou must be turned from where thou art if thou hast an ear thou may hear what the Spirit saith And thou saith this is thy light and thy way to salvation and thou confesseth thou knows none other Answer This hath all drunkards and all prophane persons that hath the Scriptures hath that which thou hath and if it brings salvation to thee then it brings salvation to them and so see what a publike faith thou art of Now see whether thou be not in the broad way that leadeth to destruction and now this is thy Testimony and this is thy Light that we are speaking of all this while and this is thy way but this way we do deny for thou and all who are where thou art are gone out of the way and there is none of you that doth good no not one And Christ Jesus who was before Abraham and before the Scripture was written is our Light and our Way and our Rule and our Truth and our Life and this is life eternall to know the onely true God and Jesus Christ whom he hath sent and this life is in his Son and he that beleeveth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself and he that beleeveth not God
and then thou wilt be sure to partake of their plagues And so in love to thy soul we have answered this thy Paper and quaeries and for the clearing of the Truth of God which is innocent and clear of thy scandalls and lyes and slanders the Lord God is our Witness who will plead our cause with our enemies and clear the innocency of those that suffer for him to whom alone we commit our cause and to him alone return to be judged and tryed who alone judges the secrets of all hearts who judgeth righteous Judgement and gives unto every one according to their deeds to him alone we commit our cause for whom we stand witnesses in sufferings in tryalls in buffetings in scourgings in whippings to whom we owe our lives and whose Testimony we are willing to seal with our blood if we be called to it To him who is our Strength and Rock our Preserver and Deliverer be all Glory and Dominion over all to Reigne and Rule and have Dominion who is King of Kings and Lord of Lords Blessed for evermore So now to thee who hath confessed thou hath none other Light nor knows none other way to Christ thy Saviour then the holy Scriptures a few Quaeries to thee and all those thou calls Minister in New-England and elsewhere Quaery 1. WHether God was not the God of Abraham the God of Isaac and the God of Jacob yea or nay 2. If so How they did know him to be their God seeing there was no Scriptures written then 3. How Moses knew God and what God had wrought in so many Generations before him seeing there was no Scripture before Moses writ 4. Whether did the Prophets of the Lord speak from a Scripture without them seeing that they said thus saith the Lord or what they spoke they received immediately from the Lord yea or nay 5. And whether Christ Jesus who is the Saviour of his people was before Abraham yea or nay 6. Whether the Apostles had their Testimony and assurance of salvation from the Scriptures without them or from Christ Jesus whom the Apostle said was within them the hope of glory yea or nay 7. And if so what ground or testimony have you that the Scriptures without you is the Light and the way to Salvation seeing that those who spoke forth the Scripture had a witness and a testimony within them 8. What assurance or certain testimony hast thou or you that Christ that was crucified at Jerusalem so many hundred years ago how do you know him to be your Saviour since that you have no testimony but the writings without you 9. And whether he be not the Saviour of his people from their sins and what sins ye are saved from who knows him not but as you have writings and records of him that he was crucified so many hundred years since at Jerusalem and how you would have known him if you had not had the Declaration of the Scriptures 10. And whether you do not lay wast Scriptures and deny Christ who saith they are the Way and Rule of life whenas the Scripture saith Christ is the way the truth and the life and that there is none that cometh to the Father but by him yea or nay 11. And whether you do not deny Christ Jesus and the Scriptures also who saith the Scriptures is the Light and that you know none other way to salvation whenas Christ Jesus saith I am the Light that lighteth every man that cometh into the world and he that walketh in this Light shall have the Light of life and whether you do not deny Christ and the Scriptures in this yea or nay seeing the Scriptures saith the same 12. And whether God in the Scriptures hath not promised a new Covenant which he will make with his people that he will write it in their hearts and put it in their inward parts and whether ye do not cross this Covenant who looks for salvation in outward writings yea or nay 13. Whether God hath not promised that he wil teach his people himself and that they shall not need to say know the Lord but they shall all know me from the least to the greatest yea or nay 14. And whether the Teacher which the Lord hath said shall be no more removed into a Corner by which the Lord teacheth his people whether this be the Letter of Scripture yea or nay And whether the Scripture may not be removed into a corner yea or nay 15. What voice that is which calleth behinde saying This is the way walk in it and whether the Scriptures be this voice yea or nay 16. And what way that is which shall be called the way of holyness which the unclean shall not pass over but it shall be for the waysaring man though fools shall not erre therein and whether this way be the Scriptures yea or nay 17. And whether there may not be errage where there is no way known but the Scriptures yea or nay 18. And whether the Apostle did not speak truth when he said to the Romans That which may he known of God is manifest in them for he hath shewed it unto them and whether that which God did shew to them was Scripture without yea or nay 19. And whether the Scriptures without be the Word of God which was in the beginning yea or nay 20. And whether that Word which Moses taught Israel and that which the Apostle speaks of to the Romans which is nigh in the heart be not the same Word by which the Lord teacheth his people yea or nay 21. And whether that VVord which was in the beginning and was with God and which VVord was God by which all things were made and without him was not any thing made that was made and whether this be the Scripture without yea or nay 23. And whether this be not him in whom is life and the life is the light of men and whether thou and you do not deny the Scriptures and Christ Jesus who is the word and the light and the life and the way who saith that the Scriptures is the light and eternal life and the way to come to salvation yea or nay 24. What right or title or interest hast thou or you to the Epistles which the Apostles writ to the Saints who received his Ministery and followed and was begotten by him who was a Minister of the Spirit which quickneth and maketh alive 25. And what is this to you who knows not the ministration of the Spirit but all that you know is from the letter without you whenas the Apostle saith The Letter killeth but the Spirit giveth life and the ministration of the Spirit turneth from the darkness to the light and from the power of Satan unto God and what light are you turned to who know no other light but the Scriptures without you which a great part of the world hath and yet lives in darkness and under the power of Satan 26. Whether you do not deceive your own souls who takes these words which the Apostle spoke to a people which was made partaker of the same spirit which he spoke from and was gathered into the light which he spoke from And these words which he spoke to a people in another condition ye take to your selves who knows no light as you confess your selves but the Scriptures without you and what this will avail you to take these words which was spoken to another seed whenas the Apostle saith The promise is not to seeds as to many but unto one seed which is Christ who is the light and the way and the Saviour of his people and what is this to you who have the Scriptures without you for your way your light and eternal life 27. Whether the prophesyings in the Churches of Christ which we read on in the Scripture was from the Letter without or from the Spirit within and whether you can judge of their conditions then or now who are come to the Spirit of Prophesie who have no testimony of Christ but from the Letter without The End