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A10973	Two dialogues, or conferences (about an old question lately renued, and by the schismaticall company, both by printed pamphlets, and otherwise to the disturbance of the Churches quiet, and of peaceable minds, very hotly pursued.) Concerning kneeling in the very act of receiuing the sacramental bread and wine, in the Supper of the Lord The former betweene two ministers of the word, the one refractarie, and depriued; the other not so. The latter betweene an humorous schismatike and a setled professor.	Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616.	1608 (1608)	STC 21241; ESTC S116109	75,976	132

the example of Christ by our Kneeling and therefore in Kneeling do not sinne S. Setting vp of Images in Churches onely to be Laie mens bookes is by authority condemned because they are as stumbling blockes in the way of the blind So that they haue beene are still and will bee here-after worshipped by ignorant persons Is not Kneeling as scandalous How can it then be iustified P. Iustly haue Images those Lay-mens bookes by authority beene condemned I thinke you will affirme as much Gods word is directly against such Images Now could you make good your words that Kneeling is as scandalous now as Images sometime were in our Churches I would be of your minde that it is to bee condemned as Images were That Images the Images I meane that you speake of are such stumbling blocks I doe read both in the bookes of God and otherwise in most godly and approoued writers old and new but that kneeling at the Communion is as scandalous as Images and therefore to be condemned is doctrine proceeding newly from the braine of of you Schismaticks neuer afore heard of among the people of God SECTION 13. Whether the Kings commandement to Kneele maketh Kneeling to be no sinne S. IT is said that the Kings commandement taketh away scandall in things indifferent P. What say you herevnto S. It may be auerred that this is a begging of a questiō except it be proued by the word that Kneeling may bee without sinne that though it be an institution of man contrary to the example of Christ a signe of cōmunion rather with Antichrist his synagogue of Rome thē with Christ and his church it haue no proportion with Sacramentall eating and haue beene is and will be bread-worship P. That wee may kneele at the Communion with-out sinne and that the said Kneeling is neither a meere institution of man nor contrary to the example of Christ nor a signe of any Communion at all with Antichrist his synagogue nor hinders a whit the Sacramentall eating of Christ nor finally with vs euer hath beene is or I hope shall bee any Bread-worship hath sufficiently beene prooued by vndeniable and strong arguments And therefore go on prooue that it may not by the authority of the King be enioyned S. Suppose that in it self it were as indifferent as was eating of flesh sacrificed to an Idol not in the Idols temple but at a priuat table where no weake ones were in the Apostles time yet how doth the Kings cōmandement take away scandall from Kneeling in publicke places doth it make all so sure that none can be scandalized or if that cannot be doth it take away guiltinesse from the scandalizer as if all the blame of scandalizing were in the Kings commandement Surely it must be in the former or else in the latter it cannot be P. Our Kneeling euen in the publicke churches is no scandalizing but accidentally as any good euen the best thing may bee And therefore neither doth the King offend in commanding nor wee offend in obeying and so is there neither scandall nor scandalizer nor any iustly scandalized by kneeling for neither doth Kneeling nor the Kneeler nor the King commanding to kneele deserue any blame You take things for granted which will not be confessed Here is no offence giuē in any respect at all S. By scandalizing a weake brother perrisheth Of whose blood the scandalizer is guiltie as Ioab was of Vriabs blood notwith-standing the Kings commandement P. What of this Insinuate you all Kneelers to be like bloody Ioabs our King commanding vs to Kneele to like Dauid when hee commanded that Vriah should bee murdered O vndutifull vngodly and inconsiderate imputations S. Here his Maiestie knowne to be of a gentle disposition and to haue learned yea professed better things in Scotland is most-humbly prayed to take the word King as spoken in imitation and vnder-stood of Cantor who knowne to be of a violent disposition did carry matters in the conuocation and published Canons not orderly and fully concluded as some of his Suffragane Prelates reported P. His Maiestie liued in Scotland a long-while and many years among Puritanes yet was neuer any Puritane him-selfe The most-reuerend Father whome you tearme in derision Cantor did neuer any thing about the publike affaires of the Church but vpon good aduise and lawfull consent nor published any Canons for the ordering of the Church but the soueraigne person of the kingdome euen his Maiestie him-selfe and that according to the Lawes and Statutes of the Realme and vnder his great Seale ratified them all These reproachfull words do but wound his Maiestie in the sides of his officers Go to your matter leaue thē if you haue any more to say S. It is impossible that the Kings commandement should make all so sure that none can bee scandalized the general ignorance of the people the dispotitiō of the ignorant vnto superstition the old leauen of Poperie not purged the multiplying of Papists all well considered P. All these thinges considered Kneeling at the communion vses according to th'ordinance of the Church of England and none otherwise is no Scandall giuen S. Nay rather it is likely that by the commandement the Scandall should bee the greater especially in regard of the 27. Canon where ministers are commanded vnder paine of suspension not wittingly to administer the Sacraments to any but to such as Kneele P. The Canon is necessary and to the preseruation of vnitie and the preuenting of hatefull confusions which otherwise too-offensiuely would spring spread ouer the kingdome Dangerous maladies must haue eating and biting medicines Gods ministers may thanke you Schismatikes for this seuere discipline They that wil not receiue Gods sacraments but as they list must by seuerity be driuen to take thē as they should It is a good rule in Phisicke stay the beginnings The Philosophers do say how Mod●eus error in principio fit maximus in fine That error which at the last was greatest at the first was but a little one in Diuinitie we finde the same to bee most true For the foulest and most horrible heresies sprang but of petty Schismatikes at the first They must in time meete with cut of those Shismes that would not haue the Church pestered and molested with heretikes This very discourse of ours may put the world in minde what hideous horrible fancies this Recusancie of yours to Kneele leauing the vnion of the Church and Communion with vs in the sacraments because yee will not kneele hath already ingendred Your errors here-about are foule and monstrous and yet worser are behinde for the preuenting whereof we are on all sides from the King to the lowest and meanest subiect to set to our helping hands Neither be you nor any other men to thinke that punishment seuere which is rather necessarily for a publike good then willingly inflicted S. May not simple and superstitious persons take occasion thus to argue Why should Kneeling be