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Anti-Fimbria, or, An answer to the animadversions upon the last speeches of the [f]ive Jesuits executed at Tyburne June 20. 30. 1679. / By A.C.E.G.
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Warner, John, 1628-1692.
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〈◊〉 seuerest penaltyes possible all mention of it is prohibited to the â—â—suits by their Generalls And he might haue beene ignorant of Mariana's Paradox too and the memory of it had beene utterly blotted out of all men's minds had not some hystorians of that time which lye out of the common roade of schooles and cheifely some scriblers of Libells against Catholickes from time to time renewed it J could neuer find that booke of Mariana in any Library of the Jesuits althô j haue had the curiosity to enquire after it Which is an euident proofe of their unjuersall dislike of such Doctrines And if any Authors are extant in them who cursorily treate of such things and incline to the like sentiments they are left there for some other usefull Treatises which they contain and not for that Doctrine as for alike reason the workes of some Fathers are exposed which containe some errours or heresyes Yet the dislike of that part which you soe odiously charge uppon us appeares by the perpetuall silence of all Jesuits in that matter Not one these thirty nay forty yeares euer owned it euen by priuate Writings Theses or Dictates or in priuate discourse Probably not one now aliue euer studyed the question But say you Mariana was printed at Toledo and reprinted at Ments Answer What then Cannot a booke be printed in a Towne but each part of it must be owned by those of that place Are not Tertullian S. Irineus S. Cyprian and Cassianus printed in seuerall places where no body approues Montanisme Chilianisme Rebaptization or semi-Pelagianisme Were j disposed to rake in this kennel and retaliat what a Catalogue could j giue you of those of your Reformed Protestant Church who both taught and practised as seditious Doctrine as any in Mariana for ought j know who neuer reade or saw him who hauing under pretence of Euangelicall liberty cast off all obedience to their spirituall Superior did improue that same pretence to loosen that due to the Ciuil Magistrate like tru 〈◊〉 of Belial without any yoake The late times of troubles would afford matter sufficient in the libells they produced where of some possibly may haue beene composed by your selfe for a Large Volume But j will not imitate your indiscretion or malice in renewing the memory of seditious maximes which all faithfull subjects hartily wish had neuer beene broached or myght neuer be remembred Because whilest the memory of them is preserued when Passion inclines and occasion inuites seditious practices will follow J ingeniously professe that j cannot looke uppon these Reproaches to men who disowne the Doctrines soe reproached but as an effect of malice against their Persons and a sly way to continu and communicate those same Principles and j feare that sad experience will conuince the world at least our nation where some of the People are imbued with so many Anti-Monarâ—â—â—all Principles that that way which the Superiors of the Society of Jesus haue taken and enjoyned their subiects to follow is the most effectuall to settle People's minds in due subiection to Lawfull Magistrates and to preuent all pernicious consequences of those pernicious Doctrines Fimbria p. 6. Bonacina soe it should be Valeneia Suarez Lessius Molina and Filiucius concurre with Mariana that it is Lawfull for a priuate man to kill such a Tyrant as hath no Title Answer J know no king who would be offended that a Rebel should be killed who plots his death and designes to become king in his place J know of no Laws diuine or humane Ecclesiasticall or Ciuil which forbid it In causâ Majestatis omnis homo miles est says Tertullian When the sacred Person of a king is in eminent danger all subiects are authorized by the Law of nature and of all nations to defend him euen by killing the Traitour The sword in the Armes of the Royall citty London is a conuincing testimony that kings are not displeased with such attempts which they haue rewarded with such a lasting badge of honour Fimbria p. 9. Kings deposed by the Pope or by Heresy are no more kings ..... As all the kings of England Sweden Denmarke c. are by the Jesuits Doctrine Answer Name the Jesuit aliue who euer writ or sayd that our dread Souueraigne is not lawfull king of all his Dominions and let him suffer as a false Traitour all Jesuits will signe his condemnation Jf you can name none as j am certaine you cannot owne that you are a malicious unworthy calumniatour The meane while the dying speeches of their murthred Brethren confute sufficiently this false lye You had had some colour for this calumny had any Jesuit reuiued that wicleffian Doctrine which your pretended Assertor of Monarky M. r Oates publisht in his Dedicatory Epistle to his Majesty where hauing sayd that the cheife end and work of all supreame Powers is to suppresse vice and encourage vertu By Banishing all vicious Liuers from their Presence and conuerse and aduancing the virtuous in their steade He addes By the neglect of which Principall part of their Royal Trust and office Princes depose themselues as VSELESSE before God and their owne consciences what euer may be their state or Glory in fact and by human Laws and Power before men Thus he What king can be secure of his subjects Allegiance if they be possest with that opinion Which will be easily applyed to any Prince how virtuous and just soeuer by a minor and then who sees not the consequence Could you haue found so seditious a Principle in any Papist how Tragically would you haue descanted uppon it Comparisons are allways odious and cheifly in odious matters wherefore j will not compare the Principles of Catholick Religion with those of your Reformation to shew that ours are more conformable to Monarky This j will say that Monarky flourisht more yeares in the Persons of Catholick Princes then months in those of Protestants that it was neuer shaken till your pretended Euangelicall Liberty the ground worke of your Reformation had Loosened the reynes of Gouernment and weakened the hands of the Gouernours That before one age had past you turned it out of the Throne and since its happy restauration you put it to greater Plunges then in all the time whilest Catholick Religion preuailed it endured Insomuch as j heare some of your owne are of opinion that Monarky in England cannot emerge or long subsist without Popery or Popish Principles You see sir Libeller that the whole first part of your Pamphlet is downe ryght false For. 1. We doe not hold it Lawfull in uertue of any Equiuocation to tell any untruth or Lye much lesse to confirme it by Oath 2. We doe not hold it lawfull to murther any one much lesse our dreade Soueraigne Of which more hereafter 3. By your owne practice and Principles it is euident you both speake and sweare downeryght Lyes unlesse you excuse them by recurring to Equiuocation And 4. that your obedience to your Prince hangs but on a uery
weake thred seing your darling and Champion makes it depend 1. On the king's keeping the Law of God 2. On his banishing all those who doe not keepe it Fimbria p. 7. J doe not well understand their Prayers for the king They would haue it thought they had no designe to kill the king who can pray for his prosperous reigne But doe they think that his Majesty can truly prosper till he turne Roman Catholick This they hartily wish no doubt whither they can pray or no j know not Answer You are more moderate here in your censure then you were in your Reflections on the speeches where you boldly affirme they were not prayers of Charity but curses of their malice In which words you deliuer the disposition of your hart not theirs who neuer gaue you any ground for it Now hauing better considered them you say You doe not well understand them Whence it euidently follows that your former judgment was rash and uncharitable But how comes it that your greatwit cannot wel understand them Are not their words plaine Inglish Is not the construction easy The sense and meaning obuious Wherein then lyes the difficulty the obscurity At least we expected soe much Charity which thinks no euill from a Christian and a Bishop as to interpret in a good sense what is dubious But that is not what you seeke nor answers your desires Had they Blasphemed God cursed which God forbid any should doe the king reuiled their Judges Jury and Witnesses called fire from heauen to destroy the Citty and Kingdome dyed like desperados and damned their souls for an eternity you had had your harts wishes their words would haue beene understood which because they dyed like tru Disciples of Christ Jesus like tru Jesuits you cannot wel understand J hope no Jesuit will euer purchace that aduantage at soe deare a rate And as for these good mens j am confident all good men who haue not soe thicke a cloud of enuy and malice in their minds will easily understand their tru Christian meaning not withstanding all the mist you cast before their eyes to preuent it They would have it thought say you they designed not to kil the king for whose prosperous reigne they prayd But how doe you know that was their designe Did they tell it to you Had you it from God by Reuelation J know no third way to know what designes a man has in his hart Jf you doe blesse the world with communicating it But j weygh your words in the scales of Reason whilest you consult not Reason but only your Passion in what you write J think their designe cleare enough out of their words to such as seeke to find and doe not study to misse it viz. that hauing payd their duty to God by professing their Faith and to justice in asserting their Jnnocency to comply with the command of the Apostle 1. Timo. 2.2 they proceeded to pray for the king the kingdome their freinds themselues You ask whither they thought that his Majesty could truly prosper till he turne Roman Catholick A wise question for a Doctor of Diuinity J answer no Catholick in his senses euer thought temporall prosperity depended on Faith We all acknowledge with S. Austin that the Roman Empire was for many ages prosperous that the Ottoman doth still prosper that Augustus had a prosperous Reigne as well as Constantin and that Henry VI. though a Catholik was unfortunate as well as Darius a Pagan Jt is tru that when we compare the Blessings of this life with those of the next all temporall prosperity is not considerable and we may with reason fay that the rich Glutton was miserable and poore Lazarus fortunate And the Psalmist Psal 143.15 denyes those to be happy who enjoy Temporall Prosperity and assures none ought to be esteemed such but those who adore the tru God Beatum dixerunt popolum cui haec sunt Beatus populus cujus Dominus Deus ejus And j grant what you say that they hartily wisht for this vâ—â— that his Majesty were in the tru and only way to eternall Blesse And you cannot blame them for that wish without condemning S. Paul who offred a like Prayer for Agrippa and his whole Auditory Act. 26.29 But when you adde Whither they can pray or no j know not you bring to my mind the words of Festus to that Glorious Apostle You are mad studyes haue besotted you And j leaue to the Readers consideration whither they may be applyed to you who hauing owned that they prayd and laboured in vaine to peruert the sense of their prayers doubt whither they could pray or no. As if when you haue heard me speake and discanted uppon my words you should after question whither j could speake or no. Sir the scripture mentions a Drunkennesse which proceedes not from wine because some Passions haue the same effect as to the hindring the use of reason Consider whither or no that is befallen to you Then you tell us that Garnet prayed for the successe of the Gun powder-treason And Charles V. for the Popes deliuery whome he kept prisonner J adde and soe did the Parliament and Cromwell and probably you your selfe with them for the deliuery of the King and Peace of the Kingdome than which nothing was Lesse intended by them But what is this though tru to the fiue Jesuits or me Then you fall againe uppon Equiuocation and from pag. 7. to pag. 12. You persue it To all which j answer 1. we condemne Equiuocation as well and more seuerely then you 2. By our constant practice it appeares we neuer owned it as is aboue sayd Soe j passe to the 12. pag. where j find some thing new Fimbria p. 12. My Authour says it is Lawfull in defence of ones reputation to kill another ..... He that reades this will not wonder if they did not scruple to murther Sir E. Godfrey or that some Preists were so forward to be his executioners Answer The Authour you mention Amicus being after the first impression in Germany reprinted at Doway An. 1642. that whole proposition was blotted out By which the Jesuits who ouersaw the Print sufficiently declared their dislike of it And 23. yeares after this second Edition viz 24. Sept. 1665. Alexander VII condemned 28. propositions of which the 17. is that you charge on us in this place According to this decree we frame our consciences and direct our actions and not by the priuate sentiment of any particular Anthout As for the death of Sir E. Godefrey j pray God from the bottom of my hart to grant tru Repentance to the Authours of that horrid and crying sin Some haue already suffred on that score who were in the judgment of wise men jnnocent of the fact Some discoueryes haue beene made of the tru Authour and those soe conuincing that all art and craft of such scriblers as you are will not confute them But j designe not to accuse any body and notwithstanding