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A81959 A letter from Sir Levvis Dyve: to the Lord Marquis of New-Castle giveing his Lordship an account of the whole conduct of the Kings affaires in Irland [sic], since the time of the Lord Marquis of Ormond, His Excellencies arrival there out of France in Septem. 1648. Until Sr. Lewis his departure out of that Kingdome, in June 1650. Together with the annexed coppies of sundry letters mentioned by Sr. Lewis Dyve as relating to the businesse he treats of from the Hauge 10. 20. July 1650. Dyve, Lewis, Sir, 1599-1669. 1650 (1650) Wing D2979; Thomason E616_7; ESTC R206730 54,200 79

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colonies of English here the English interest of this Kingdome is included but what this English Interest is when we shall have once examined your fright concerning it will soon be over it appears to me to be nothing else but that the right and authority of the crown of England over them should be acknowledged by all the subjects of this Kingdom and those Colonies of English aswell as the native Irish be therby protected and secured in the possession of such fortunes and estates as either by the sword the roiall gift or purchase have bin lawfully acquired unto them Beyond this the English Interest is an unknown-land to me and how far this Interest thus stated is secured by or Consistent with that peace you blame so I leave it to any third unpreiudiced person to determin Who I am certaine will find them square so well together that he shall have reason to beleive the English interest taken in your sense infers an obedience to you and your independant masters abstract from all relation to the crown an establishment of your Tetrarchy here till your ambition were wearied out and you with your corrupt and hungry family had ungratefully glutted yourselves in the blood and fortunes of those noble persons whose smiles and patronage in your mercenarie pleading daies were the top of your ambition that so by this consequence the lives and estates of all that have been here in armes may beleft a prey to worse rebells then the worst of these have ever been This is an English interest indeed that the peace securs not and which I cannot blame you for pleading for with so much passion as to affirme that were there neither king nor parliament you would maintaine it neither for averring that my Lord Lieutenants transporting a considerable part of the English army hence was destructive unto but as to the true English Interest I mentioned before it was very suteable to that that my Lord Lieutenant should without dispute ●omply with the Kings commands from whom only he had his commission and derived his authoritie and whom both himselfe and that army in all relations both of honor and duty were obliged to obey Besides his Excellency knows well enough how much he was concerned in the support of that cron●ne that gave him and all the English in this Kingdome the title to what they possessed here nothing of which could be long secure unto them and the crowne at home in danger In the next place I do not know whether the Parlement is more beholding to you for asserting their infringed authoriti● or the Irish themselves in your being so generous as to let them see the invalidity of this peace they are abused withall for to prove both which you bring noworse an argument then an English act of Parliament which underfavour your own skil in the lawe if you have not forgot it will tell you can be of no force here untill received by a Parliament in Irland which asserts a power as just and absolute to it selfe as the Parliament of England can else should the ancient conquerors of this Kingdome and their free posterity unjustly undergoe the dominion of those to whom neither Interest nor merit hath given any right or footing here or priviledge over them Besides you shall have others which will tell you and make it good that a Prince cannot give a way the Iurisdiction of his people to one that hath no title to it as the Parlement of England hath none to Irland without their own consent yet grant for argument sake that these people by taking armes unlawfully had put themselves into that condition that might aswell enable as induce the late King of ever glorious memory to invest the Parliament of England with such a power over them as that act involues yet can it not be beleived that the King ever intended to trust them with managing the war of Irland against himselfe as by what they have don in England t is evident they would have done but let us also suppose it possible that the royall power can be so convayed unto another as that contrary to the intention of the King it may be converted to his own destruction which is a possition I am sure that no Sophister lesse accute and learned then your selfe will be able to make good yet must this power surely needs revert to its firfl originall the crown through the death both of the King that gave it of the Parliament it was conferd upon and that since that the Kings death is out of dispute this Parlement hath for this seaven yeares at least wanted both a King and freedome which being the head and hart of that body are two things most necessary to the life and essence of it nay that that breathlesse headles carcass of a Parliament hath by those Independant vermine that bred out of the putrifacton of it been anatomiz'd and quite dismembred since there is no man that is not deafe and blind that can be uninformd Now that such a martird mooncalfe canstil be a living Parliament I am sure there is no man wakes that can be so perswaded especiallie the King that calld it being dead which both the law custom tells you that a Parliament could neuer yet survive upon which conclusion you must needs grant that his present Majestie who hath already confirmed by his both my Lord Lieutenant and all that his Excellency hath don by his Royal fathers Commission hath now indisputably reverted to him the power to manage a war and conclude or con●irme a peace in Irland except that you will still maintainé that the authoritie of the late Parliament is by I know not what legierdemain translated into those usurpers that have not only destrojed that Parliament but also declared that they intend there shall never be any more and this non consequence if you still insist upon I will conclude you are crackt as was that Spanish gallant and leave you in your quest of Windmills But if you can prevayle with your selfe to be so ingenuous as acknowledg the preceding truths I will hold on still and endevour to remove out of your tender conscience your last and greatest difficult of breach of trust indeed a scruple very suitable to a man of honour such as I would willinglie take you for and to begin the worke I must tell you that the premisses are very convinceing that in your compliance with my Lord Lieutenant there is no trust broken either with God or King or Parliament who are all you can pretend to owe a faith unto by deserting those villanous impostors who have supplanted religion subverted Monarchy murthered the King violated the Parliament annihilated the lawes trampled upon learning and nobility and left neither worth nor justice unopprest within their reach which kind of perfidious people surely to deceive right reason it selfe tells you there is no deceipt Yet had you no such assurance I should thinke it strange that you who have
their past offences and of liberty of conscience with those other promised graces and immunities against the severitie of the lawes in force untill all were confirmed in Parliament to any man endued with but Comon sense is a sufficient argument to say nothing of the apprehensions though vaine still amongst them that they are yet not for all this secure enough And what cause they had to insist upon this army and these commissioners do you but looke into your owne Conscience and laying your hand upon your hart imagin so well of your selfe as that it were your owne case and J am sure you will tacitely confesse it is a provision but very reasonable Nay let a looker on consider the time these men tooke to submit to his Majesties authority when he had neither meanes to punish nor protect them left and he will certainly commend their duty and be far from discommending either the king or my Lord Lieutenant for any thing that in the peace is granted unto them not excepting against either the number of that army or power of those Comissioners you make your selfe so scandalized withall His Excellencie hath been already pleased to tell you that as to the army the supreme comand thereof is in the Kings Lieutenant the ordering of which and disposing of all future commands wherin so it consist of and be to Roman Catholiques will in effect be left to him now that there are very many of that Religion inseparable from their duty to the King both the confederats and the Parliament have to their great cost and trouble had a plentifull experience witnesse the prudent and generous Marquesse of Clanricard Whose eminent piety and constancy in his profession joynd to his irreprehensible allegiance to the King will remaine to the glory of his Nation and Religion a great and lasting example to future times of a firm and united Loyalty both to divine and humane Majesty as it hath serud the present already for a pattern unto severall Other considerable persons in Ireland to follow And you have no reason but to thinke there are a good number of those in this army which will somwhat lessen the groundles danger you fancie to your selfe especially if you take also into consideration the frequent wayes and dispensations that have bin found for entertaining very many protestants into severall imployments in this army and how both these parties to say nothing of those in the north that have submitted to the Kings authoritie added to that remnant army as you call them in mounster consisting of about six thousand men led by an able and succesful commander who being undeceived at last by the publike villanies in England have betraid themselves it you will have it so againe into their duty will ballance any thing of ill that may be pretended in the case I leave it to any one that is but capable to judge in such a matter This dangerous argument being once removed how litle remaines of hazard in that other of the power of the commissioners is very evident by the articles of peace where it is plain that their power is absolute in nothing but the levies to be made upon their owne and that part of the peoples free holds which formerly acknowledged their Iurisdiction and who now had entrusted themselves into their hands whilst in all the other cases so industriously quoted by you though to no other end but take up paper and amuze the readers they limit him as litle as formerly the counsel table did He being able to determin nothing without their advise or Consent nor they to actuate any thing without his Commission authority which circumscription should you still affirme to bee too much would entirely vanish should his Majestie com in person hither as t is both hoped and beleived he will there being no condition in the peace that limits him But suppose the hazard preiudice of the protestant religion by the peace were as great as you affirm it is whether must be in fault the King or those men that prest him to that extremity that he was only left to choose whether he would drown or take hold of a brier to save himselfe whether he would utterly abandon his interest in all his Kingdoms to those that were rebells against his person his posterity and Kingly power or by giving the Irish whose rebellion could in the nature of it beare nothing so ill a Construction those not much unreasonable conditions they so positively insisted upon repossesse himselfe of one of his three Kingdoms again and therby becom enabled to dispute for the other two Thus far have I discoursed for the satisfaction of other men with your selfe I might deale more breifly and tell you it is grosse hipocrisy for you to pretend so much sollicitude for the security and advantage of the protestant religion on this side and yet can find them both sufficiently provided for by an army of Sectaries on the other side without any protestant superiour to moderate them as these have that have not only quite puld down the whole building of that Religion but almost leveld the walls of Christianitie it selfe by providing a libertie for all opinions and religions in the world the Catholique and protestant alone excepted because they conceive them forsooth to be more destructive to the great ends of their republique then any other the first as being too Monarchique too full of Majesty pleading prescription amongst Christians with too much authority and therefore likely to gain overmuch ground upon them in a time when all order religion were of the hinges the people so much at a gaze and the second as being for decency order not only overpopish but also from its birth too much interwouen with the interests of this Crown and royal familie Can any thing be more ridiculous then that you who derive your power from the Commanders and Commissioners of this army of saints and who are by your Commission if I be not mistaken incorporated into it having likewise set aside the profession and exercise of this protestant religion misconceive me not that Religion which for near a Century of yeares hath been practised established in the church of England accommodated your selfe clearly to Mr. Cromwells Cut though such a one as you or scarce himselfe if Cathechized can give an account either of the tenents or constitutions of should becom so great a patron of and so much concerned in the interests of a religion that either out of Change of judgment or out of endes no matter which in this case is abandoned by your selfe already After the protestant religion comes the English interest a consideration indeed if urged to a person whose trust from and concernment in it were somwhat lesse then my Lord Lieutenants fit for you that are of English blood and whose sword pen are both by nature and the lawes obliged to the service of that crowne in which onely and the
Lord Inchiquin were received by mee from your Lordship upon a suspicion I had there might fall out some unhandsome cariage towards them upon the departure of these English out of the quarters which opportunity of serving them I was not very unwilling to imbrace conceiving it an honourable expedient for their security in case they should be necessitated thereunto But I find His Excellency it not at all satisfyed with me therin I having no Commission to that purpose and upon intimation sent his Lordship that I had such a thing he commanded me to returne it with civility to your Lordship But finding by the Copy of a Letter to the Governor of Waterford which I here inclose that there is some use indeavoured to be made thereof to his exceeding preiudice and dishonour he hath commanded metosend it to himselfe least the returne of it should be perverted to his prejudice as the acceptance was I have hereby returned your Lordship the Passe for the Lord Inchiquin and from both have received very slender thankes for bringing them Your Lordship knows I made no engagement for any thing no either of their behalfes but on the contrary in the discussion of those proposaIls which I presented to your Lordship from the Officers did declare that I had positive commands to except the Lord Marquis of Ormond and Lord of Iuchiquin from having any benefit of or relation unto any thing that was comprized in that treaty so that the suggestions of M. Axtell to the Governor of Waterford though they are nothing a greable to the conditions we received from your Lordship yet they give a very great dissatisfaction to many here of my integrity as presuming me to act some thing under hand either by design or beyond Commission wherein if your Excellency would be pleased to afford me the justice of some kind of vindication it would extremly oblige me in a very gratefull resentiment My Lord Your Excellencies humble servant M. BOYLE Cloneraud May 3. 1656. My Lord Lieutenants Letter to Cromwell when he sent him Back his Passe SR DEan Boyle having brought me a Paper signed and sealed by you seeming to be a Passe for me to transport my selfe beyond seas I did much wonder from whence or for what reason it was that you either gave or he accepted it since he was directed to declare to you if it came in question that I had no intention to treat with you for a Passe or any other thing And though I am yet to seek a reason for his part of that transaction yet yours appeares to me in Axtells Letter to Generall Preston I have by this Trumpetter returned you your Paper and for your unsought courtesy do assure you that when you shall desire a Passe from me and I thinke fit to grant it I shall not make use of it to corrupt any that commands under you I remain Your humble servant ORMONDE Kogh reogh the 17 May 1650. The Speech of his Excellency the Marquis of Ormond unto the Generall Assembly of the confederates in Irland upon the signing of the peace in answer to the Oration of Sr. Richard Blake Chairman of the Assembly Mentioned PAG. 55. My Lords and Gentlemen I Shall not speake to those expressions of duty and Loyalty so eloquently digested into a Discourse by the Gentleman appointed by you to deliver your sense you will presently have in your hands greater and more solid Arguments of His Majesties gratious acceptance of them then I can enumerate or then perhaps you your selves discerne for besides the provision made against your remotest feares of the severity of certaine Lawes and besides many other freedomes and bounties conveighed to you and your posterity by these Articles There is a doore and that a large one not left but sett open to give you entrance by your future merits to whatsoever of honour or other advantage you can reasonably wish so that you have in present fruition what may abundantly satisfye and yet there are no bounds set to your hopes but you are rather invited or according to a new Phrase but to an old better purpose You seeme to have a Call from Heaven to excercise your Armes and uttermost fortitude in the noblest and justest Cause the world hath knowen for let all the Circumstances incident to a great good Cause of warr be examined and they will befound Comprehended in that which you are now called warrantably to defende Religion not in the narrow circumscribed definition of it under this or that late found out distinction but Christian Religion is our Quarrell which certainly is as much and as fatally struck at I may say more by the blasphemous Lycence of this Age then ever it was by the rudest Incursions of the most barbarous and most avowed Enemys to Christianity The venerable Lawes and fundamentall Constitutions are trodden under impious and for the most part Mechanique feete a Iudg reader if these be the words of one that intends to betray the Kingdome and Kings interest to Cromwell The sacred person of the King the life of those Lawes under an ignominious imprisonment his life threatned to be taken away by the Sacrilegious hands of the basest of the People that owe Him obediences And to endeare the Quarrell to you the fountaine of all the benefits you have but now acknowledged and of what you may further hope for by this Peace and your owne merits is now in danger to be obstructed by the execrable murther of the worthjest Prince that ever ruld these Islands In short Hell can adde nothing to the desperate Mischeife now openly projected And now judge if a greater or a more glorious feild was ever set open to action and then prepare yourselves to enter into it And receive these few Advices from one throughly embarqued with you in the Adventure First Let me recommend unto you that to this as to all other holy Actions you would prepare yourselves with perfect Charity a Charity that may obliterate whatsoever b Are not here the factions of Rancours a long continued Civill warr may have contracted in you against any that shall now cooperate with you in so blessed a worke let his engagement with you who ever he is be as it ought to be a Bond of Unity of Love of Concord stronger then the nearest tye of nature In the next place marke and beware of those that shall goe about to renew or create c Iealousies Iealousies in you under what pretense soever accompt such as infernal Ministers imployed to promote the black Designe on foote to subvert Monarchy to make us all slaves to those that are so to theire owne avaritious Lusts Away assoone as much as possibly may be with those distinctions d And nationall animosities fore seen forelold that since have ruind all of Nations and of Partys which are the feilds where in the seede of those Rankor weeds are sowen by the great Enemy of our Peace In the last place Lett us all divest ourselves of that preposterous that ridiculous Ambition and selfe Interest which rather leads to our threatned generall Ruine then to the enjoyment of Advantages unseasonably desired And if at any time you shall thinke yourselves pincht to neare the bone by those Taxes Leavyes that may be imposed on you for your defense Consider then how vaine how foolish a thing it will be to starve a Righteous Cause for want of necessary support to preserve yourselves fat guilded sacrificies to the rapine of a mercilesse Enemy And if wee come thus well prepared to a Contention so just on our part God will either blesse our Endeavours with successe victory or f Were there ever nobler or more generous expressions of loyalty then these Crowne our sufferings with honour patience for what honour will it not be if God have so determined of us to perishwith a long glorious Monarchy And who can wante patience e The people of Irland have found the truth of this by a lamentable experience to suffer with opprest Princes But as our Endeavours so let our prayers be vigorous that they may be delivered from a more unnatural Rebellion then is mentioned by any story now raised to the highest pitch of successe against them I should now say something to you for my selfe in returne to the advantagious mention made of me g Or greater modesty my Endeavours to bring this settlement to passe but I confesse my thoughts were wholy taken up with those much greater Concernements Let it suffice that as I wish to be continued in your good esteeme affection so I shall freely adventure upon any hazard and esteeme no trouble a difficulty too great to encounter if I may manifest my zeale to this Cause and discharge some part of the obligations that are upon me to serve this Kingdome FINIS ERRATA PAg. 6. l. 7. for Interests of the crown read Interests of the crown P. 7. l. 28. for Monster read Mounster P. 9. l. 22. for prece read peace P. 24. l. 17. after Col. Birne read The famous Pudsey with the poleaxe Colonell Walton Grissith Cavanagh c. P. 29. l. 16. for appeared read as appeared P. 49. l. 3. for ad read a. P. 50 l. 10. Clonwell read Clonmell P 51. l. 3. for Neavagh read Neanagh ibid. for Puachases read Purchases P. 52. for hande read handes P. 53. for that is their read that it is their P. 56. for I have given read I have here given Erratas in the Letters P. 4. l. 19. for take thy paines read take this Paines ibid. for an foyle read an unglorious foyle P. 6. l. 42. for it read is P. 12. l. 1. for to laide ad to have laide ibid. l. 27. for is fulnesse read is a fulnesse P. 3. l. 8. for Cronwell read Cromwell