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A36252 A reply to Mr. Baxter's pretended confutation of a book entituled, Separation of churches from episcopal government, &c. proved schismatical to which are added, three letters written to him in the year 1673, concerning the possibility of discipline under a diocesan-government ... / by Henry Dodwell ... Dodwell, Henry, 1641-1711. 1681 (1681) Wing D1817; ESTC R3354 153,974 372

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desire_v at_o present_a that_o what_o have_v be_v say_v chap._n xxii_o of_o my_o former_a book_n be_v only_o understand_v on_o supposition_n that_o ecclesiastical_a power_n be_v not_o confer_v immediate_o by_o god_n but_o mediate_o by_o the_o interposition_n of_o the_o ordainer_n and_o on_o that_o supposition_n i_o can_v conceive_v what_o reason_n there_o can_v be_v to_o question_v it_o who_o can_v doubt_v but_o that_o suppose_v ecclesiastical_a power_n to_o be_v proper_o their_o gift_n it_o must_v be_v convey_v to_o other_o by_o virtue_n of_o some_o compact_n of_o they_o who_o gift_n it_o be_v as_o all_o other_o gift_n be_v to_o which_o any_o one_o else_o can_v pretend_v a_o legal_a right_n who_o can_v doubt_v but_o the_o legal_a validity_n of_o all_o such_o conveyance_n depend_v upon_o that_o which_o the_o law_n presume_v to_o be_v the_o intention_n of_o the_o giver_n who_o can_v doubt_v but_o that_o the_o law_n presume_v every_o one_o to_o mean_v that_o which_o he_o ought_v to_o 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