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bishop_n p._n 55_o 56_o 57_o chap._n 5._o the_o false_a reason_n and_o accusation_n of_o his_o second_o part_n p._n 59_o my_o judgement_n and_o case_n state_v which_o he_o false_o report_v other_o case_n consider_v whether_o it_o be_v true_a that_o there_o be_v no_o other_o reason_n against_o communion_n than_o be_v at_o the_o first_o reformation_n difference_n prove_v 1._o from_o the_o thing_n impose_v 2._o from_o the_o design_n of_o the_o imposer_n 3._o from_o the_o effect_n 4._o from_o the_o case_n of_o the_o church_n with_o who_o we_o communicate_v 5._o from_o the_o additional_a reason_n for_o our_o preach_v p._n 64._o what_o he_o will_v have_v they_o do_v that_o can_v have_v room_n in_o their_o church_n p._n 70._o his_o appeal_n to_o my_o case_n at_o kederminster_n shame_v p._n 71_o etc._n etc._n his_o false_a supposition_n that_o most_o of_o my_o hearer_n need_v not_o our_o teach_v because_o they_o sometime_o hear_v in_o the_o parish-church_n
far_o from_o be_v schism_n that_o be_v cast_v our_o 〈◊〉_d that_o church_n on_o those_o term_n only_o return_v they_o to_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o catholic_n church_n on_o which_o ground_n it_o will_v appear_v that_o you_o 〈◊〉_d the_o schismatical_a church_n and_o not_o we_o for_o although_o before_o this_o impose_v humour_n come_v into_o particular_a church_n schism_n be_v define_v by_o the_o father_n and_o other_o to_o be_v a_o voluntary_a departure_n out_o of_o the_o church_n yet_o that_o can_v in_o reason_n be_v understand_v of_o any_o particular_a but_o the_o true_a catholic_n church_n for_o not_o only_a person_n but_o church_n may_v depart_v from_o the_o catholic_n church_n and_o in_o such_o case_n not_o those_o who_o depart_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o such_o church_n but_o those_o church_n which_o depart_v from_o the_o catholic_n be_v guilty_a of_o schism_n these_o thing_n i_o think_v necessary_a to_o be_v further_o explain_v not_o only_o to_o show_v how_o false_a that_o 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in_o house_n and_o in_o chapel_n without_o or_o contrary_a to_o the_o liturgy_n or_o a_o part_n of_o it_o so_o do_v mr._n ball_n at_o whitemore_n mr._n hind_n at_o banbury_n mr._n geree_n and_o mr._n fox_n at_o tewksbury_n john_n rogers_n at_o dedham_n mr._n taylor_n mr._n harvy_n mr._n bourne_n at_o manchester_n mr._n gee_o mr._n johnson_n mr._n hancock_n mr._n barlow_n mr._n broxholme_n mr._n cooper_n and_o abundance_n more_o beside_o those_o mention_v before_o and_o now_o i_o leave_v it_o to_o the_o dr.'s_n further_a thought_n whether_o he_o speak_v true_o of_o the_o sense_n of_o all_o the_o nonconformist_n and_o have_v prove_v what_o he_o undertake_v to_o abuse_v the_o magistrate_n or_o do_v his_o part_n for_o public_a reformation_n they_o be_v against_o and_o so_o be_v we_o sect._n 26._o as_o to_o his_o question_n be_v there_o less_o necessity_n then_o or_o now_o i_o answer_v 1._o there_o be_v then_o more_o necessity_n as_o there_o be_v of_o you_o or_o i_o in_o america_n where_o 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i_o contradict_v myself_o by_o say_v the_o same_o thing_n personal_a fault_n i_o distinguish_v from_o ministerial_a and_o tolerable_a ministerial_a from_o intolerable_a then_o and_o now_o and_o be_v this_o contradiction_n do_v not_o all_o do_v so_o too_o till_o now_o yea_o in_o the_o place_n cite_v by_o he_o i_o 1._o say_v that_o as_o to_o personal_a fault_n as_o swear_v drunkenness_n etc._n etc._n they_o shall_v get_v a_o better_a man_n if_o lawful_o they_o can_v 2._o and_o i_o name_v just_a as_o here_o the_o intolerable_a insufficiency_n direct_a pag._n 747._o viz._n 1._o a_o utter_a insufficiency_n in_o knowledge_n and_o utterance_n for_o the_o necessary_a part_n of_o the_o ministerial_a work_n 2._o if_o he_o set_v himself_o to_o oppose_v the_o end_n of_o the_o ministry_n etc._n etc._n by_o heresy_n malignity_n and_o i_o name_v the_o fault_n that_o necessitate_v not_o separation_n sect._n 20._o next_o he_o cit_v my_o word_n against_o some_o man_n factious_a separate_n humour_n and_o 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one_o city_n when_o there_o be_v no_o such_o limitation_n in_o his_o book_n and_o when_o the_o same_o law_n the_o same_o silencing_n fine_n imprisonment_n accusation_n of_o the_o preacher_n be_v all_o over_o the_o land_n but_o i_o be_o glad_a for_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o nonconformist_n elsewhere_o if_o it_o concern_v not_o they_o 2._o as_o to_o london_n he_o know_v that_o i_o give_v the_o preacher_n due_a honour_n and_o that_o i_o justify_v not_o any_o unnecessary_a separation_n of_o the_o people_n from_o they_o nor_o of_o the_o conformist_n from_o the_o nonconformist_n i_o give_v he_o a_o account_n of_o my_o own_o practice_n and_o the_o reason_n of_o it_o let_v other_o man_n give_v account_n of_o they_o i_o know_v very_o many_o of_o my_o mind_n 3._o and_o he_o know_v that_o i_o oft_o tell_v he_o that_o many_o thing_n make_v good_a man_n action_n culpable_a in_o some_o degree_n that_o make_v they_o not_o criminall_n odious_a or_o to_o be_v ruin_v and_o that_o i_o give_v he_o many_o of_o their_o extenuation_n 4._o among_o the_o rest_n very_o to_o use_v his_o own_o phrase_n it_o look_v somewhat_o odd_o by_o the_o church_n law_n or_o canon_n ipso_fw-la facto_fw-la to_o excommunicate_a many_o score_n thousand_o in_o the_o land_n mere_o for_o profess_v to_o take_v some_o thing_n impose_v to_o be_v sin_n and_o then_o to_o revile_v and_o prosecute_v they_o as_o schismatic_n for_o not_o communicate_v with_o you_o 5._o and_o i_o tell_v you_o that_o law_n and_o the_o high_a ground_n be_v not_o always_o the_o terminus_n a_o quo_fw-la of_o schism_n some_o of_o they_o be_v never_o of_o your_o flock_n and_o therefore_o never_o separate_v from_o you_o but_o as_o you_o do_v from_o they_o and_o somewhat_o less_o 6._o and_o the_o king_n licence_n first_o and_o proclaim_v clemency_n often_o give_v they_o some_o possession_n as_o the_o law_n give_v you_o 7._o and_o plague_n fire_n and_o thousand_o that_o can_v hear_v you_o make_v it_o necessary_a but_o some_o parish_n church_n be_v not_o full_a answ_n i_o see_v none_o of_o those_o i_o come_v in_o divers_a where_o many_o can_v hear_v the_o preacher_n and_o will_v you_o have_v more_o and_o again_o i_o tell_v you_o 1._o they_o keep_v meeting_n in_o lesser_a parish_n to_o receive_v those_o that_o come_v out_o of_o great_a 2._o if_o those_o come_v to_o you_o they_o must_v keep_v out_o other_o 3._o when_o it_o be_v common_o know_v that_o in_o their_o own_o great_a parish_n there_o be_v not_o room_n it_o be_v hard_a for_o family_n to_o look_v about_o the_o city_n for_o room_n in_o uncertain_a place_n 4._o and_o all_o person_n that_o culpable_o dislike_v you_o be_v not_o therefore_o to_o be_v forsake_v sect._n 22._o but_o the_o same_o man_n that_o cit_v my_o reprehension_n of_o separation_n ask_v i_o why_o i_o do_v not_o disow_v it_o as_o if_o he_o present_o forget_v what_o he_o have_v write_v i_o disow_v schism_n and_o therefore_o the_o great_a in_o the_o sinful_a church-tearers_a that_o smite_v the_o shepherd_n and_o then_o cry_v out_o of_o the_o flock_n for_o be_v scatter_v and_o i_o disow_v the_o least_o but_o not_o by_o cruelty_n but_o in_o charity_n sect._n 23._o p._n 127._o he_o repeat_v the_o incapacity_n name_v by_o i_o viz._n in_o knowledge_n and_o utterance_n by_o heresy_n etc._n etc._n and_o say_v of_o all_o these_o the_o people_n be_v judge_n and_o so_o many_o separate_v thus_o no_o settle_a church_n can_v subsist_v etc._n etc._n answ_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o hard_a case_n that_o in_o such_o a_o volumn_n as_o this_o he_o will_v not_o tell_v we_o his_o own_o judgement_n further_o than_o the_o accuse_v of_o we_o intimate_v it_o which_o if_o we_o tell_v he_o of_o he_o can_v say_v it_o be_v not_o his_o sense_n will_v he_o open_o say_v that_o the_o people_n have_v not_o a_o private_a judgement_n of_o discretion_n in_o order_n to_o their_o own_o practice_n whether_o the_o preacher_n be_v a_o heretic_n papist_n infidel_n idolater_n or_o not_o but_o must_v take_v he_o for_o their_o pastor_n be_v he_o what_o he_o will_v i_o know_v he_o will_v not_o say_v it_o what_o then_o will_v he_o be_v at_o why_o do_v he_o accuse_v we_o for_o that_o which_o he_o dare_v not_o contradict_v do_v he_o any_o where_o tell_v we_o in_o what_o case_n and_o how_o far_o they_o must_v judge_v no_o he_o shun_v all_o such_o question_n as_o tend_v to_o bring_v the_o cause_n into_o the_o light_n put_v twenty_o and_o he_o will_v answer_v few_o or_o none_o of_o they_o if_o he_o do_v perhaps_o we_o shall_v be_v agree_v whether_o he_o will_v or_o not_o but_o reader_n bear_v these_o tire_a repetition_n as_o i_o must_v do_v 1._o he_o know_v that_o it_o be_v the_o ordainer_n and_o not_o the_o people_n who_o i_o make_v judge_n who_o shall_v be_v a_o minister_n 2._o that_o it_o be_v the_o king_n and_o patron_n that_o i_o make_v the_o only_a judge_n who_o shall_v be_v tolerate_v and_o maintain_v by_o they_o and_o have_v the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n 3._o and_o that_o though_o the_o universal_a church_n be_v many_o hundred_o year_n for_o the_o people_n election_n i_o plead_v ad_fw-la esse_fw-la relationis_fw-la for_o no_o more_o as_o necessary_a but_o consent_n who_o shall_v be_v the_o pastor_n to_o who_o they_o will_v trust_v the_o conduct_n of_o their_o soul_n and_o this_o be_v but_o judicium_fw-la discretionis_fw-la &_o privatum_fw-la non_fw-la publicum_fw-la regentis_fw-la only_o guide_v each_o man_n own_o obedience_n to_o god_n 4._o he_o know_v if_o he_o will_v know_v that_o i._o say_v and_o say_v again_o that_o the_o advantage_n of_o the_o law_n and_o ruler_n favour_v and_o the_o tithe_n and_o temple_n and_o parish_n order_n and_o national_a association_n be_v so_o great_a advantage_n to_o the_o service_n of_o god_n that_o no_o man_n shall_v be_v deprive_v of_o they_o and_o go_v another_o way_n but_o upon_o necessity_n and_o very_o great_a and_o urgent_a cause_n but_o i_o intend_v god_n will_v further_o to_o prove_v to_o he_o that_o when_o 9000_o minister_n be_v all_o require_v to_o sin_n or_o cease_v their_o ministry_n a_o necessity_n be_v put_v upon_o they_o to_o exercise_v it_o against_o such_o prohibition_n as_o far_o as_o they_o can_v without_o do_v more_o hurt_v than_o good_a and_o that_o the_o sinful_a compliance_n of_o 7000_o will_v not_o excuse_v the_o other_o 2000_o for_o this_o duty_n and_o this_o be_v the_o case_n which_o a_o friend_n of_o truth_n shall_v have_v debate_v sect._n 24._o p._n 126._o but_o say_v he_o how_o shall_v a_o man_n escape_v be_v think_v heretical_a by_o the_o people_n answ_n 1._o see_v his_o own_o answer_n here_o chap._n 1._o 2._o how_o shall_v one_o get_v all_o the_o world_n to_o be_v wise_a and_o good_a if_o i_o know_v i_o can_v procure_v it_o but_o put_v the_o case_n within_o
their_o several_a fix_a province_n which_o i_o never_o see_v prove_v i_o will_v not_o contend_v whether_o those_o province_n may_v be_v call_v church_n if_o we_o agree_v about_o the_o thing_n use_v the_o name_n as_o you_o see_v cause_n sect._n 9_o and_o to_o your_o talk_n of_o our_o bishop_n be_v of_o the_o same_o sort_n i_o ask_v you_o whether_o any_o of_o the_o bishop_n for_o 300_o year_n or_o for_o long_a after_o save_v cyril_n alexand._n by_o violence_n do_v ever_o use_v or_o claim_v any_o power_n over_o any_o minister_n or_o christian_n beside_o mere_a fatherly_a teach_v persuade_v urge_v god_n word_n on_o they_o and_o apply_v it_o to_o the_o conscience_n of_o particular_a person_n by_o admonition_n verbal_a censure_n and_o absolution_n do_v they_o meddle_v by_o force_n with_o body_n or_o purse_n let_v your_o bishop_n use_v no_o other_o force_n or_o way_n of_o constraint_n than_o the_o apostle_n do_v if_o they_o be_v their_o successor_n and_o not_o lay_v the_o excommunicate_a in_o prison_n and_o ruin_v their_o body_n and_o estate_n &_o valeat_fw-la quantum_fw-la valere_fw-la potest_fw-la but_o mr._n glanvile_n and_o many_o of_o you_o tell_v we_o how_o little_a you_o care_v for_o it_o without_o the_o sword_n sect._n 10._o if_o any_o man_n will_v but_o consider_v what_o i_o cite_v out_o of_o greg._n nazianzen_n that_o say_v man_n unfit_a be_v so_o ambitious_a to_o be_v of_o the_o clergy_n that_o the_o clergy_n be_v in_o many_o church_n almost_o as_o many_o as_o the_o laity_n and_o that_o presbyter_n than_o be_v much_o like_o the_o presbyterian_o elder_n save_v that_o they_o have_v the_o power_n of_o word_n and_o sacrament_n though_o they_o seldom_o exercise_v preach_v in_o city_n but_o leave_v that_o to_o the_o bishop_n and_o that_o the_o number_n of_o their_o acoluthi_fw-la exorcistae_fw-la ostiarii_fw-la lectores_fw-la subdiaconi_fw-la diaconi_fw-la etc._n etc._n make_v up_o the_o great_a body_n of_o they_o and_o the_o very_a boy_n and_o scholar_n that_o be_v breed_v up_o under_o they_o yea_o or_o but_o for_o church-singing_a be_v sometime_o join_v to_o make_v up_o the_o number_n see_v isidor_n de_fw-fr offic._n eccl._n l._n 2._o even_o all_o the_o monk_n be_v often_o number_v with_o they_o and_o victor_n cite_v by_o he_o seem_v to_o number_v twice_o the_o infantuli_fw-la so_o breed_v up_o with_o the_o great_a number_n of_o reader_n to_o the_o carthage_n clergy_n i_o say_v he_o that_o consider_v all_o this_o will_v not_o judge_v of_o the_o number_n of_o people_n or_o church_n by_o the_o number_n of_o the_o clergy_n as_o he_o will_v do_v now_o with_o we_o where_o the_o great_a parish_n have_v but_o two_o or_o three_o priest_n sect._n 11._o and_o as_o to_o the_o cause_n that_o i_o plead_v for_o it_o be_v enough_o that_o i_o have_v prove_v that_o even_o when_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n be_v confine_v to_o the_o episcopi_fw-la pastorum_fw-la yet_o the_o presbyter_n have_v the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o be_v episcopi_fw-la gregis_fw-la and_o exercise_v this_o power_n in_o their_o distant_a country_n assembly_n though_o under_o the_o bishop_n and_o the_o bishop_n be_v to_o exercise_v his_o with_o they_o as_o assistant_n so_o that_o the_o particular_a church_n be_v not_o real_o unchurch_v sect._n 12._o p._n 265._o he_o come_v near_o our_o controversy_n but_o first_o false_o state_v the_o question_n suppose_v that_o i_o say_v that_o the_o whole_a power_n of_o the_o presbyter_n be_v swallow_v up_o by_o the_o bishop_n and_o be_v the_o dispute_v of_o a_o question_n false_o state_v of_o any_o profit_n i_o only_o say_v that_o the_o office_n of_o a_o church-pastor_n or_o presbyter_n have_v three_o essential_a part_n viz._n the_o power_n of_o teach_v the_o church_n of_o conduct_v they_o in_o worship_n and_o govern_v the_o people_n by_o the_o use_n of_o the_o key_n and_o that_o he_o that_o destroy_v one_o part_n that_o be_v essential_a though_o he_o swallow_v not_o up_o all_o the_o power_n alter_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o office_n and_o that_o so_o the_o english_a diocesan_n form_n do_v i_o have_v large_o prove_v in_o my_o treat_n of_o episcopacy_n which_o he_o do_v not_o answer_v sect._n 13._o 1._o he_o tell_v we_o that_o the_o presbyter_n be_v the_o low_a house_n in_o the_o convocation_n and_o so_o have_v their_o vote_n in_o pass_v all_o the_o rule_n of_o discipline_n article_n of_o doctrine_n and_o form_n of_o divine_a service_n ans_fw-fr 1._o according_a to_o his_o description_n the_o church_n of_o england_n have_v no_o one_o ecclesiastical_a government_n either_o monarchical_a or_o aristocratical_a or_o democratical_a and_o therefore_o the_o act_n of_o the_o convocation_n be_v no_o act_n of_o govern_v the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o mere_a agreement_n therefore_o this_o prove_v not_o the_o presbyter_n power_n of_o govern_v it_o 2._o if_o this_o be_v a_o part_n of_o government_n it_o be_v the_o legislative_a part_n or_o the_o executive_a the_o late_a it_o be_v not_o the_o former_a the_o lawyer_n say_v it_o be_v not_o king_n and_o parliament_n only_o be_v legislator_n but_o if_o this_o be_v legislation_n we_o deny_v it_o to_o be_v any_o of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n in_o question_n which_o be_v but_o to_o judge_v who_o be_v fit_a or_o unfit_a for_o church-communion_n to_o admonish_v absolve_v or_o excommunicate_v according_a to_o christ_n law_n and_o be_v the_o execution_n of_o christ_n law_n and_o not_o the_o make_n of_o new_a law_n 3._o it_o be_v lie_fw-la sub_fw-la judice_fw-la whether_o the_o thing_n here_o name_v be_v any_o part_n of_o true_a lawful_a church-government_n rule_n of_o discipline_n christ_n have_v make_v enough_o except_o about_o mere_a mutable_a accident_n article_n of_o doctrine_n man_n must_v not_o otherwise_o make_v than_o to_o declare_v what_o he_o believe_v christ_n have_v make_v form_n of_o divine_a service_n command_v to_o all_o other_o the_o apostle_n never_o make_v nor_o that_o we_o find_v appoint_v any_o other_o to_o make_v they_o if_o these_o be_v lawful_a by_o way_n of_o agreement_n of_o many_o church_n this_o be_v none_o of_o the_o power_n we_o speak_v of_o yet_o he_o call_v this_o one_o of_o the_o great_a right_n of_o government_n viz._n make_v rule_n for_o the_o whole_a body_n which_o he_o deny_v to_o have_v any_o constitutive_a government_n sect._n 14._o he_o say_v in_o this_o main_a part_n of_o government_n our_o church_n fall_v behind_o none_o of_o the_o ancient_a church_n only_a there_o they_o be_v take_v single_o in_o every_o city_n etc._n etc._n ans_fw-fr that_o be_v 1._o when_o the_o minister_n of_o a_o diocese_n choose_v four_o out_o of_o who_o the_o bishop_n take_v two_o and_o 2._o this_o only_a to_o make_v agreement_n without_o any_o govern_n power_n over_o the_o church_n of_o england_n 3._o and_o this_o only_a about_o general_a regulation_n 4._o in_o either_o unlawful_a or_o doubtful_a imposition_n on_o other_o about_o mere_a accident_n or_o circumstance_n of_o order_n this_o be_v the_o same_o or_o as_o good_a as_o when_o every_o true_a church_n have_v present_a pastor_n personal_o to_o exercise_v the_o executive_a church-government_n call_v the_o key_n by_o the_o law_n of_o christ_n already_o make_v in_o judge_v the_o case_n of_o each_o particular_a person_n as_o to_o his_o title_n to_o church-communion_n and_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n for_o that_o be_v the_o thing_n which_o by_o we_o be_v plead_v for_o sect._n 15._o next_o he_o tell_v we_o of_o four_o that_o be_v to_o join_v in_o ordinatiom_n and_o examination_n when_o 1._o it_o be_v not_o the_o make_n or_o govern_v of_o pastor_n which_o i_o be_o speak_v of_o but_o the_o government_n of_o the_o flock_n 2._o he_o know_v that_o it_o be_v no_o strange_a thing_n for_o our_o bishop_n to_o say_v that_o both_o in_o convocation_n and_o ordination_n the_o presbyter_n act_v only_o as_o the_o bishop_n council_n and_o the_o bishop_n only_a act_n by_o govern_v authority_n 3._o i_o never_o dispute_v for_o presbyter_n power_n to_o 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