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A19856 The replie of Iohn Darrell, to the answer of Iohn Deacon, and Iohn Walker, concerning the doctrine of the possession and dispossession of demoniakes Darrel, John, b. ca. 1562. 1602 (1602) STC 6284; ESTC S109294 61,620 110

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this I haue performed Their former pretences make me to feare this outside of theirs is but ouercast with their wonted perietting In the Epistle to the Reader they say that I haue very vncharitably endeuoured to wound S. H. whom els where they call S. Harsnet vnto death for his dutifull Discouerie I maruell they are not ashamed to call it a dutifull discorerie seeing the drift of it is to proue that I taught Sommers to counterfeit wherof themselues acquit me as ye shall heare forthwith What dutie performed he to God or man in slaundering the rare workes of god his neightbour Or do they in commending such a Discouerie It is true that by my Detection I endeuoured to wound S. H. mortally so as he should neuer be able to rise vp any more for counterseiting my teaching to counterfeit but not with sword nor speare onely with the dart of Truth And I thinke it is as true that I haue wounded him to death Had not his wounds bene mortall or at leastwise incurable they had beene healed by this and we had seene him the second time in the field Otherwise we must deem him for a coward that encountreth not his enemie being often chalenged This is the excellency power of truth that shee subdueth all those that rise vp in armes against her they that take part with her do at lēgth triūph gloriously as being more thē conquerors They blame my ●āphlets as ful of vnsound absurd positions I wil not confirme in this place what is els where set down but refer to your Iudgement whether by the former Suruery the following Reply it doth not appeare that many such positions haue issued from their owne heads that this charge may be turned vpon their owne pates For mater they charge my writings with want of Methode to bee also schismaticall and Enigmaticall Touching the Methode I hope your patience hath beene contented with the order of the Doctrine diuided into three severall branches each part prosecuted first with reasons confirming it after by remoouing such doubtes as might seeme to weaken it And as for Schisme I teach no Latelie reuealed counsels nor my Dialog Discours Epist to the Reader in the beginning priuate opinion concerning the possession dispossession of diuels Both which these men confesse they do but what hath ben reuealed and held from the beginning confirmed euer since by cōtinual consent whereas if their doctrines be their owne priuate opinions and Latelie reuealed they bee New If New not established by agreement of Scriptures the Church if not established it is schisme at the least for any thing I can conceiue to publish maintein them Concerning Enigmatiall handling your owne profiting by reading may best be Iudge It was not my purpose neyther is it my skill to write ridles Yet because they complaine of darkenes I haue now so indeuored my selfe that I hope they may spell my meaning if they put on their spectacles Moreouer they accuse the spirit wherwith my pamphlets are indited to be sensuall deuilish as giuen to Rayling Contradiction Disobedience Horrible indeed is the sinne of Rayling But iust plaine reprouing with these men is railing Curing is killing whatsoeuer smarteth in the sore is deadly Iob. 24. 17. poyson The morning to the adulterer is as the shadow of death The vlcerous patient crveth out on euery touch of the Chirurgion as Tit. 1. 12. at most rough vnaduised handling It is no meruail if the Cretians can not endure to be told they are lyars eu●l beasts s●●w bellies that sharpe reproofe be reuiled by such as altogether in tollerable barbarous and inhumane Yet further behold I beseech you in themselues how destitute they are of Gods feare in this behalfe how voyd of the common wisedom of men how strongly possessed with that self same itching disease they charge me withall It is great want of reuerence towards god to defame others falsely that against their owne conscience as they doe me most opprobriously throughout their whole treatises It is exceeding solly to prouoke him by forged crimes which can repay them againe with most true crimes with publike crimes with hainons crimes And is it not an incurable itching which must needes be clawing till thier own flesh be rent from their bones These mens desire of scratching was so hot that possibly they could not hold their fingers though they were guilty to them selues how deare it might cost them wherein notwithstanding I haue spared them being ashamed in playne tearmes to vtter that which they haue not bene ashamed to do Concerning the Contradictions they would thrust vpon me you will easily perceiue in the Reply how partly they spring from their owne ignorance as if I cal a thing Ordinary and supernaturall then must there needs be a Contradiction partly from their adding detracting and changing my words at thēir pleasure which they haue done aduisedly and purposely whereby their sin is increased And as for Disobedience by my striring against the sentence of the High Commission is it a rebellious and vnruly proceeding according to the commandement example of Christ Iesus to iustifie the works of Matt. 12. 25. 30 god being slaundered or yet for one-to complaine of wrong For marke I beseech you how in this place they affirming that by due order of law wee were conuented conuicted apprehended imprisoned by sentence of Iustice defintiuely condēned for grosse malefactors adiudged to prison yet in their Discourses haue giuen this testimonie of me that they did not so much as suspect any precompacted cōsederacy Diale Dis pag. 352. betweene me and the boy that all acquainted with my former synceritie and vpright cariage are free from such a perswasion● that the graceles boy did gracelesly counterfet and my self did only erre● iudgement and not of any purpose in practise at all By the witnes therfore of these mē if the high Cōmission passed any such seutence against vs they did vs open iniurv I trust oppressed inuocents may haue this libertie at least to bewaile their greife But neither hath the Commission awarded any such sentence and these men haue done a double notable wrong in●slauncering both the Commistion and vs. To shut vp all they would boodwink the reader with their godly iealousie ouer him pretending they labour to prepaire him for one husband and to present him as a pure virgin to Christ But this office 1. Tim. 3. belongeth to the Bishop that is biameles and is the husband of one wife c. as S. Paul saith And therfore if the Christiā Reader should looke for grapes from these thomes he should be deceaued this Epistle then to the Reader is fraught with the same vertues of Cloking of forging of pride though with some larger addition wherwith the former reuerend Fathers and brethren was to you And therefore howsoeuer they thinke I wil answere them