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A85151 A true testimony against the Popes wayes, &c. In a return to that agreement of 42. of those that call themselves ministers of Christ (but are proved to be wrongers of men and of Christ) in the county of Worcester, and some adjacent parts, who subscribe their agreement and catechisme with the names and the places where they are pastors, teachers, and rectors, &c. as they say: or as followeth: Richard Baxter teacher of the church at Kiderminster. John Boraston pastor of Ribsford and Bewdley. Richard Eades pastor of Beckford Glocestershire. ... Joh: Dedicote preacher at Abbotesley. R. F. (Richard Farnworth), d. 1666. 1656 (1656) Wing F509; Thomason E870_6; ESTC R202116 86,932 79

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words are your contradictions and selfe confutations and if ignorance be the cause that thousands perish if your people perish are not you the cause of it that hath your people in such ignorance that though they can talk understandingly about the matters of the world yet they can scarce speake a word of sence about the matters of salvation as you say page 19. and upon the experience of their ignorance you have been b●ought to consider of your negligence and to know how you have wronged Christ and them in feare least God should require their blood at your hands though you would put off with flatteries and excuses be sure the Lord will call you to a swer before his judgment seate for it your triall is not yet past and your pardon you have not and where you say he hath wonderfully dispelled or expelled the mists of Popery I answer yea that he hath and therefore those that dwell in his light sees you in those mists undispelled that are such deceivers and wrongers of men and of Christ page 18.19 and you say many of Gods servants have laid down their lives in flames in witnesse against it I answer so they have but what is that to you that are in the miscarriages and wronging Christ and men growing worse and running as you say yet further from God c. who are casting or causing to be cast into Prison and persecuting the Lords faithfull witnesses that are sent to witnesse against your deceipts and gaainst all the Popish mists of darknesse in which mists and darknesse are such as are wrongers of God and men in the heresis and miscarriages as you are who being in that mist of darknesse and the miscarrying nature which hath taught you to lie against God and his work page 18. saying he writes his law in the hearts of his living witnesses imperfectly I say you are ignorant of the living witnesses being your selves dead branches and persecuters of his living witnesses as the filling of your Prisons cruell usage at worcester Evesham Banbury Oxford Northampton and other places may witnesse which persecution and cruelty proceeds from that Popish mist or the miscarring nature being works of darkness and are reproved by us Ephesians 5.11 and as you have showed your ignorance of the living witnesses in whose hearts the law of God is written so have you showed that you are ignorant of the writeing of the law in the heart and ignorant of the law written therein that accounteth the work of God an imperfect worke and accounteth God to be an imperfect writer of the law in the heart If he have written his law in the heart of his living witnesses imperfectly as you say who must perfect it would not you be the perfecters of it or make people beleive in you to do it who are the transgressers of it being in the miscarriages growing worse c. And as you say you are wrongers of men and of Christ so are you wrongers of God himselfe that calls his work an imperfect work and accounts God himselfe to be an imperfect worker and to do his work imperfectly when he is a perfect worker and his works are perfect and so doth he write his law perfectly in the hearts of his faithfull living witnesses as both they and the Scripture beare a true testimony though yours be false and not true therein And here I charge you 42 Priests Teachers Pastours Ministers Rectors in the presence of the Lord to be false witnesses and lyers against God and his work and his law which he writes perfectly in the hearts of his living witnesses as the Scripture witnesseth Jer. 31.33 Heb. 8.10.11 The Lord is a perfect worker and his law is perfect so doth he write it perfectly to do its work Give eare ô ye Heavens and I will speak saith the Lord God whose words witnesseth against you and all false witnesses that are knowne by your false testimony therefore saith he heare ô earth the words of my mouth Deut. 32.1.2 my doctrine shall drop as the raine my speech shall distill as the dew as the smal raine upon the tender hearbs and as the showers upon the grasse because I will publish the name of the Lord ascribe ye greatnesse unto our God He is the Rock his work is perfect Deut. 32.34 As for God his way and work is perfect the word of the Lord is tried he is a buckler to all those that trust in him for who is God save the Lord or who is the Rock save our God It is God that girdeth me with strength faith David and maketh my way perfect Psa 18.30 31 32. And this the living witnesses in whose hearts the law of God were perfectly written witnesseth against you 42 false witnesses that saith It is imperfect but your folly is made manifest as well as your false testimony in your Agreement But this is but like thy former writing Richard Baxter in that deceitfull booke of thine which James Nayler answered in print as I did in writing and sent to have come to thee before I knew of the printing of thine or James his answer to that called the Quakers Catechisme wherein thy deceipt was to some purpose made manifest in which thou poured forth the venome and filth out of thy old bottle And did'st thou not say that when such as you the Ministers were overtaken with a lazie fit they could preach without study as well as a woman fit for the gumble stoole and hath not the lazie fit overtaken thee and you 42 Ministers that you have declared your lazinesse or negligence and preached in your Agreement or therein declared your ignorance of God and the truth and of the law in the heart perfectly written in the heart by the true and perfect writer of the same in his faithfull witnesses who beares testimony against your deceipts and filthinesse which you daylie make manifest who as you say grow worse and are running yet further from God You say in your Agreement page 26. that repentance is a through turning from the flesh and the world to God c. then they that throughly turne from the flesh and the world to God they turne out of imperfection unto perfection and art not thou here in words become a Preacher of that which thou Richard Baxter in thy book called the Quakers Catechisme there called the doctrine of the Devil for thou called the doctrine of perfection in that booke the doctrine of the Devil and here in thy agreement thou Acknowledged covertly that which thou therein denied openly and saith in that called your Warrant that you are to present every man perfect c And if it was the Devils doctrine to preach perfection and the Papists dung to feed on as therein to wit the booke called the Quakers Catechisme thou said it was Then art not thou either denying in your agreement what in the other thou asserted and so art thy own confuter and selfe contradicter or else if
yet you say you and all the adjacent-churches will set apart a day publickly to fast and pray for a pardon c. I say the church in God the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ 1 Thes 1.1 Which is the pillar ground of Truth 1 Tim. 3.15 doth deny you and all wrongers of God and men and persecuters of the Innocent and such as are called of men masters professing themselves Christs-Ministers and all such as deceive souls for dishonest gain and lives in perfection and such and the like miscarriages as you and your generation do and the prayers of the wicked are sin such as turneth their care from hearing the Law in the heart and of God Jer. 31.33 their prayer is an abomination to the Lord God Pro. 28. and 9. ver And such as you that neglect the work of God and lives in persecution the work of the Devill and in the miscarriages wronging God and men as you do they are those that turnes their care from hearing the law and their hearts from receiving the truth standing in opposition aganst it as you do and therefore their prayers are abomination to the Lord as yours and all that work such wickedness as you do is for thus faith the Lord unto such Isa 1.15 when ye spread forth your hands I will h●de mine eyes from you yea when you make many prayers I will not heare your hands are full of blood and hearts as well as houses are full of deceit and over passeth the deeds of the wicked Ier. 5.26 27. and such like and they that neglect the work of the Lord are cursed children having hearts exercised with covetuous practices 2 Pet. 2.3 13 14. And what Churches are you and you that are such who are in the cursed nature and wicked practices in sin and unturned to God Isa 59.2 What is your fasts worth that lives in strife and debate persecution and wickednesse behold in the day of your fasts do you not find pleasure And are you not bringing forth persecution as in this Nation is manifest as well as you exact all your labours Isa 58.3 behold do not ye fast as hypocrites and persecuters do that fast for strife and debate Matth. 23.4 5. c. who smite with the fists of wickednesse causing your voice to be heard on high afflicting the soul for a day and hanging down the head as a bullrush and instead of loosing the bands of witkedness you strengthen the hands of evil doers instead of undoing the heavy burthens you bind them Pharise-like upon mens shoulders and will not your selves touch them with one of your singers sueing some for Tythes and taking treble dammages c. And instead of letting the oppressed go free you and your generation cast the Innocent into prisons-holes and dungeons as your prisons in these parts against you may sufficiently witnesse and are not these the fruits of Jezabel and of the Hypocrites fast and not that which the Lord doth require Isa 58.3 5 6 7. Wherefore be ye witnesses against your selves that you walk in the false Prophets and Pharisees your fore-fathers steps as your fruits make you manifest and as you may read Math. 23.31 32 33 34. c and you have under a cover confessed the same who wants a pardon for your negligence in the work of God as you say for your former miscarriages which was before the 4. day of May as aforesaid and therefore you want a pardon for your perfecting and imprisoning of Tho. Goodaire once in Kiderminster twice in Worcester before that time and some others hath been imprisoned at Worcester and in Worcest Anne Himing Richard Ke●bey for Tyths c. and many at Evesham since your hypocriticall false hearted and deceitfull confession promising amendement and rather growes worse and worse so manifesting your hypocrisie and filling up your measure of iniquity as your forefathers did leaving both your words and actions to be standing witnesses against you as they did that it may appeare for all your Evasions and Colourable glosses that you are their off-spring and beareth their marks by which you are known Ma●th 7.20 Matth. 7.15 c. And seeing that your ministry takes little place in working any good effect in your hearers but leaves them ignorant in matters of salvation page 19. of your Agreement you are resolving in your wills and miscarrying wombe or nature and Spirit from whence your continued miscarriages proceeds to revive your fore-Fathers worke and set up a forme of words for them to get to say over to you as was used to be done to the Bishops at Trent or at Trull and you promise salvation upon the performance and threatens damnation upon the refusall Pope-like saying that that way of using Cathechising familiar and personall instruction and to have the people to get the Creed the Lords prayer and ten commandements or any other * And is not those which you call any other Orthodox Catechisme such as were set out by he old Bishops and their off-spring that were in the miscarriages as you also are c. And confesse page the 4. of your Agreement Orthodox Catechisme and your expositions to say over to you and so that will be a meanes you say to kill ignorance But the same meanes hath been used by the Bishops and Prelates and yet it hath not done that which you would have it to do and do you think that if it did not do it by your fore-Fathers applying that it receives any more vertue or power from you to do it by your revieing their work and useing the same meanes and with the same miscarrying nature and wrongfull Spirit which they did make use of it with all but your covers are too narrow and leaves you bare and ignorance remaines still amongst your hearers Math. 11.27.28.29 Act 4.11.12 Heb. 7.25 and the miscarriages amongst you their untaught teachers as it did with your fore-Fathers And you say the diligence of Papists and Sectaries will condemne you if you will not do halfe so much in a right way to save mens soules Math. 6.24 Math. 7.13.14 ●5 16.17.18 ●9 28 as they will do in a wrong way to pervert them would you not here have people to set you up as their saviour and so cause them to neglect coming from you to look unto Christ for teaching who is a true Saviour and teacher of his people and perfectly able to save all that come unto God by him without you but your designe is seeme and all your covers will not hide you who seeks to cast that off from you to the Papist and Sectaries which your selves are guilty of and found in for if the way of neglecting the work of God and living in miscarriages wronging Christ and Men growing worse and running yet further from God as you do and have done be not the wrong way and destructive to mens souls what is for there is but two waves the right and
for the killing of ignorance which your preaching could not do And yet it hath been used by the Popish Race and your forefathers the Bishops and Prelates and were not killed thereby but is found living amongst you their children and off-spring And you are found in the deceit and would keep people in the same by your flatteries and inventions which will all be to no purpose that is acted by the spirit of deceit and miscarrying nature which you are in And leaves the same ignorance unkilled by your familiar and personal Instructions as your forefathers have done you being in the miscarriages wronging men and Christ and not guided by the true spirit but by the false as your fruits as well as your Agreement maketh it manifest Concerning your warrant You have gathered certain verses of the Apostles words and calls them your warrant from God when you are found our of the Apostles practice and order and not at all warranted by them to wrong men and Christ as you have done and confessed the same you also are in the miscarriages and disobedient nature neglecters of the great works of God and therefore you being in that deceit are out of the counsels of God and liars like the false prophets whose examples ye follow that stole the true prophets words and were ready like you to call them their warrant from God or saying they spake from the Mouth of the Lord when the Lord did not warrant them in it no more then he doth you but witnessed against them by the true Prophet And said he had not spoken to them but they ran unsent as you have done and therefore they should not profit the people at all no more then you shall though they spoke the true Prophets words as you may do yet they was not guided by the true Prophets spirit no more then you are And though they spake their words for their own ends as you do yet for all that they were without Warrant from God as well as you are and also found out of his Counsel in their inventions and speaking for their own ends and for mony as you do and they caused the people to erre by their lies and by their leightnesse as you do and the Lord by his Spirit in his Servants witnessed against them as he doth against you saying I sent them not nor commanded them and so they were without warrant from God as you are though they could speak the true Prophets words as you do yet running unsent as you have done The Lord said they should not profit the people at all Jer. 23.16.21.30.31 32. Mi cah 3.5.11 No more do you who are as you say neglecters of the works of God and in the miscarriages unpardoned as well as wrongers of men and Christ as you your selves in your Agreement have all so acknowledged therefore your gathering of Pauls words and the true Prophets words being out of their life and spirit to paint and garnish your selves withal and are found persecuting the truth as your forefathers the false Prophets and Scribes and Pharisees did their words gather together with your dark minds and no warrant to you from God so to do nor to be called of men Masters Matth. 23.8.10 Nor to preach for tithes or hundreds a year Paul did not do it but preached freely coveting no mans silver or gold but hath shewed an example which you refuse to follow Act. 20.33 34 35. therefore his words is no warrant for you to do as you do As in pag the 1. or 2. of your Agreement neither did Paul go to take a ground from the Pope or sixth general Councel held either at Trent or Trull and say from thence that they that are baptized ought to learn the Belief and on the fifth day of the week say it over to the Bishops c. as you do which you lay down as the ground of your Catechisme and familiar and personall instruction and so build upon the Bishops and old popish root as you have done But Paul as he was a Minister of Christ Act. 26.16 17 18. he was sent to turn people from darknesse to the Light and from the power of Satan unto God and not to keep them in darknesse and sin unturned to God as you and your Minister doth therefore you are out of this life and not guided by the Spirit of God as he was And Paul as he was a Minister of Christ and the Gospel he were called of God and appointed to preach by the power of the holy Ghost Gala. 1.1 Gala. 1.11.12.15 16. Act. 13.2 3 c. Act. 18.9 10 11 c. Act. 16.9 10. Colo. 1.25 26 27 28. who was not made a Minister by the will of man as you are but by the Will of God Gala. 1.1 2. in which his Ministry stood who had the mystery of godlinesse and Christ the Son of God revealed within him Ephe. 3.2 3. c. Gala. 1.15 16. And so had his warant from God and after Christ and the Ministry were so revealed in him then he went forth immediately and not before for to preach him as he hath certified to the brethren Gala. 1.11 12. And he preached the Light 2 Cor. 4.5 6. Law Rom. 8.3 Hebr. 8.10 11. And heavenly treasure within 2 Cor. 4.6 7. And the word in the heart Rom. 10.8 by which faith is wrought and Christ the Mistery and hope of glory within them Col. 1.25 26 27. And they that believed and were baptized into him they put him on Gala. 3 27. As Paul the Gospel-Minister hath certified but he did not make a ground of Catechisme and familiar personal instructions from the Pope or general Councels held at Trent or Trull as you do for the cutting down of Ignorance Heresie and wickednesse as you pretend you will do but Paul was to turn people from the darknesse in which errour heresie and wickednesse was and so turning them from that he turned them to the light and power of the Spirit of God which was the way and means whereby Ignorance Errour and wickednesse was to be cut down crucified and killed which you are yet ignorant of as your Agreement doth manifest as well as your fruits who lives in ignorance Miscariages Error Heresie and wickednesse uncrucified or killed And was not the same way and meanes which you pretend to kill it by used by the Pope Bishops Prelats c. or at the Councell at Trent or Trull and by your fore-fathers the old out-rooted Bishops and Episcopals before you and yet it left the Ignorance Errors Miscariages Heresies and wickednesse amongst you Living and had no power to crucifie the same and you say your preaching this many years hath not yet killed it and therefore you have agreed to use the same Antidote or means for the killing of it as they did and if it could not expell and kill it by them useing the same before you as you also have done do you think to blind
day of the 11th month in the yeare 1655. Richard Farnsworth To the Catechisme c. Set forth by the 42. Priests c. ANd in your Catechism you say you believe there is one only God in 3 persons I answer That there is one God is true and you are proved and have confessed that you are wrongers of his Son Christ Jesus and then of him for he and his Father is one Joh. 10.30 And there is three that beare witnesse in Heaven the Father the word and the Spirit and these three are one 1 Joh. 5.7 but where is those three persons you speake of are you not liers therein for he that abides in the doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son 2 Joh. 9. and the Holy Ghost remaines within in the Saints Joh. 14.15 16 17. and these three are one and agree in the unity 1 Joh. 5.7 8. and as Christ hath said I in them and thou in me that they may be made perfect in one Joh. 17.23 and the unity stands in the eternity which is shut out of the reach of your carnality that are out of the unity and in the enmity and selfe separation wrongers of men and of Christ as you say you are therefore you speake of things which you are not in the true knowledge of and feeds peoples fancies with your conceivings and imaginations you say also that God made man for himselfe but you are gone farr from the end for which you were made that are turned wrongers of him in wronging people and his Son and in running further from him as your selves confesse and so under the curse for you say that he gave a law requireing perfect obedience upon paine of death and if he requires you perfectly to obey him upon paine of death are you not under that penalty and lyable to that paine and punishment that instead of yeilding perfect obedience denieth it in denying perfection and so perfect obedience who live in miscarriages growing worse and worse and running further from God and saying that the doctrine of God the Father and his Son viz the doctrine of Sinlesse perfection were bred by the Devil and detested by Christ and never received by any that had grace c. When the same doctrine was preached and commanded both by God and Christ and both believed in and received by such as had grace guiding them and such as yeild perfect obedience to the divine will and law of God them you revile and are not ashamed to call them heretiques and cast them into Prison if they do but walke up into the same things which you preach in words and speake of and seeing you out of the life of the same tell you of it though now you have confessed it that you are of what you set others to get instead of owning perfection and yeilding perfect obedience to the law and will of God you persecute them that do and lives your selves in the disobedience to the divine law and will of God and are in your covenant with sin and imperfection in the miscarriages and as you say wronging both Christ and men as thou Richard Baxter and you 42 hath done but thou and you all are seen and your covers will not hide you but leaves you bare who are out of the doctrine of Christ and under condemnation and in danger of stverlasting paine and death due to the disobedient except you consider betime and truly repent give over deceiving of soules yeild perfect obedience as you say that you may come out of imperfection and persecution and forsake your miscarriages and give over wronging Christ and men make restitution and humble your selves under the mighty hand of God and make it manifest not by your flatteries and excuses serpent-like and still continue or grow worse and worse in the miscarriages and wronging God men c. but by ceaseing your persecution and your preaching for hire and beareing rule by your meanes c. and turning to that of God which reproves in secret for your miscarriages and forsake them and your lusts and make your amendment and returne manifest by your fruits and live not in your flatteries but as you have confessed your wrong to the people and promised your amendment make good your word and go make restitution for them for the same and give over your trade of d●ceit there is many Scriptures which you have summed together and set people to get over mixing your deceipt and imaginations amongst them and hath not the Pope and Bishops as you do garnished and painted themselves in their masse books Pulpits and Catechisms c. with the Saints words when they was as farr from the Saints Spirit life and practise as you are and you for all your painting and garnishing your selves are as farr from the Saints life and practise as they were And if the people get all your words to say over will that change their nature which hath not yet changed yours and did not your Fore-fathers use it before you and yet left you where they was except more painted outwardly and grown more subtle but within full of venome cruelty and persecution and out of the life and power of truth as is made manifest for you say in your third Answer where you speak your own condition that as men did willfully sin and fall from God and happinesse you say in your 19 page that you are wrongers of Christ and men and in the neglect of the work of God and in miscarriages c page 3.4 in your Agreement then are not you in that condition entered willfully into them through Satans temptation and are not you in that condition under the wrath in the fall under the curse nay do I say any more herein then you have confessed for you say that man being tempted did willfully sin and I say you that are wrongers of Christ and of men you have done the same and so fell from God and hapinesse into miscarriages persecution and wickednesse under the wrath of God and curse of the law and the power of the Devill through disobed●ence as you are so say you in your third answer we are by nature dead in sin I say then you are not by grace yet quickened who are from the divine life and what can dead men act in that death and life of sin for God but against him and is not that the cause that the killing ignorance you speake or remaines yet unkilled amongst you and your people that are asleep as you say in security in sin unturned to God ignorance of that which concernes their salvation and therefore doth make it appeare that you are strangers from the life of Jesus and the covenant of promise and knoweth not the life of truth nor the quickening of the soule nor yet how to kill the killing ignorance that remaines amongst you unkilled and dead men that are dead from the divine life set up dead Papers and dead words without life