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A47892 No blinde guides, in answer to a seditious pamphlet of J. Milton's intituled Brief notes upon a late sermon titl'd, The fear of God and the King preached, and since published, by Matthevv Griffith, D. D., and chaplain to the late king, &c. addressed to the author. L'Estrange, Roger, Sir, 1616-1704. 1660 (1660) Wing L1279; ESTC R13799 10,710 20

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I have you in a Net Why would you meddle with a Chapter that you were sure would burn your fingers There 's no Relief you see against Authority 'T is well you stopp'd short of that Lex Regni which Samuel opens to the People beginning at the 11. verse of the same Chapter from whence lyes no Appeal Truly your insincerity in this Section is more exposed than I could wish it Under the Reign of God onely their King you say This expression doubtfully implies you a Millenary Doe you then really expect to see Christ Reigning upon Earth even with those very eyes you Lost as 't is reported with staring too long and too saw●…ily upon the Portraiture of his Vicegerent to breake the Image as your Impudence Phrases it It is generally indeed believed you never wept them out for this Losse In my Passage from hence to your Frog-morall I cannot but remember you that there was a Plague of Frogs as well as a Fable Frogs that crept into the Kings Chambers and into the Houses of his Servants c. Now to your Fable Nor are you happier in the relating or the moralizing your Fable The frogs being once a free Nation ●…aith the Fable petitioned Jupiter for a King he 〈◊〉 amongst them a log They foun●… it insensible they petioned then for a King that should be active he sent them a Crane a Sto●…k saith the fable which straight fell to pe●…king them up This you apply to the reproof of them who desire change whereas indeed the true moral shews rather the folly of those who being free seek a King which for the most part either as a log lies heavie on his Subjects without doing ought worthie of h●…s dignitie and the charge to maintain him or at a Sto●…k is ever pe●…king them up and devon●…ing them Mr. Milton to agree with you as far as possible if One Log be so Intollerable for the Burthen or One Stork for the Cruelty and Greedinesse what do you think of 40. Storks and every Stork a Log in his belly What do you think of a Grand Arbitrary Perpetual Counsel and no more Parliaments according to your Gratious Proposition Page 8. of your Free and easie way c. And in regard that in a free Commonwealth 〈◊〉 who are greatest are Perpetual Servants and Drudges to the publique at their own cost and Charges neglect their own Affairs yet are not Elevated above their Brethren L●…ve soberly in their Families walk the Streets as other men may be spoken too freely familiarly friend●…y without Adoration Page 4. What do you think of the Rump Parliaments Perpetuating it self under the name of That grand Counsel Page 10. the Government being in so many Faithfull and Experienced hands next under God so Able especially Filling up their number as they intend and abundantly sufficient so happily to govern us P. 11 c. Alas these Gentlemen are very Pigeons not a Stork among them do not deceive your self Sir you 're one of those they have Fed of the same Plume and Kind ask but the honest party of the Nation and they shall tell you that Tom. Scot and his Associate Patriots can Peck as well as Bill Now we have Play'd let 's to our Book again and be a little Earnest You charge the Doctor in your 8. Page for saying That by our Fundamental Laws the King is the highest power Page 40. If we must hear mooting and Law-lectures from the Pulpit what shame is it for a Dr. of Divinitie not first to consider that no law can be fundamental but that which is grounded on the light of nature or right reason commonly call'd moral Law which no form of Government was ever counted but arbitrarie and at all times in the choice of every free people or their representers This choice of Government is so essential to their freedom that longer then they have it they are not free In this ●…and not only the late King and his posteritie but Kingship it self hath been abrogated by a law which involves with as good reason the posterity of a King forseited to the people as that Law heretofore of Treason against the King attainted the Children with the Father MEthinks you might have spar'd your Criticism upon the word Fundamental being a Term that Usage hath authorized were nothing more in 't and soberly I do not find but it may stand a nicer Test than perhaps you 'll impose upon it No Law you say can be Fundamental but that which is grounded in the ●…ight of Nature or right reason which no FORM of Government was ever counted c. So that tho' GOVERNMENT it self directs to Fundamentals yet the Specification of it into such or such a FORM does not You are Queint Sir shew me Government without a Form further than in Notion and only Notional must be the Laws too that support it Obedience to Superiors is a Moral Fundamental and wh●…re to One or More vested with unconditionate Dominion I mean as to the Power of Revocation we ●…n e Contract a Duty as the Person and Authority are Inseverable so is the Obligation Indispensable which by a Fundamentall Law is become du●… as well to the King himself as unto Kingship I shall be tedious if I unty all your knots The Choice you say is Arbitrary so 't is in Mariage that is till we have pass'd away our Freedom but you are for Divorce I see as well of Governours as Wives Your next now is a shrewd one is it your own I pr●…y●…e This choice of Government you tell us is so essential to the Peoples Freedoms that longer then they have it they 're not free In truth you 're in the Right Is any People Free where there is any Government This is somewhat worse than the Doctors FUNDAMENTALL FREEDOME and GOVERNMENT in Politiques Contra-Distinguish one another have a care of this argument for if the People are Free to Chuse they 'll never Chuse any of your Friends again But if the King his Posterity nay and Kingship it self have been abrogated by a Law That 's another matter By what Law I beseech you By the Law of a little Faction that dares not put their heads upon a Tryal by the Establish'd Law of the Land your next shift is wretched If that no Law must be held good but what passes in FULL Parliament then surely in exactnesse of Legality no Member must be missing c. I Answer you that it is not the Actual sitting of All but the Liberty of All to Sit not the Fullnesse of the House but the Freedom of the Members It is one thing a Law that 's made in the Absence of many of the Members that might have been Present if they would and are possibly fined for non-attendance and another thing the Vote of a tenth Part of That Body which it self entire is but the third Part of the Legislative Power This Remnant too by force of Armes violently ●…cluding the Rest.
But you have no Conscience with you Kingship Abolished will not do your work it seems You suppose it never was establish'd by any certain Law in this Land nor possibly could be for how could our forefathers bind us 〈◊〉 certain form of Government more then we can bind our 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 a people be put to war with their King for his misgovern●… and 〈◊〉 come him the power is then undoubtedly in their own 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 will be govern'd The war was granted just by the King 〈◊〉 the beginning of his last Treatie and still maintain●… to be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Parliament as appears by the qualifications prescrib'd to the M●…bers of this next ensuing That none shall be elected who have 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 against the Parliament since 1641 I●… the war were just the Conquest w●… also just by the Law of Nations And he who wa●… the chief enemie in all right ceased to be the King especially after 〈◊〉 by the deciding verdit of war and royal●…ie with all h●…r Laws and pretentions yet remains in the victors power together with the choice of our future Government IF Kingship was never established what was I beseech you had we no Government Nor could it be you say Alas then for your ready and easie way to ESTABLISH a FREE COMMONWEALTH what will become then of YOUR STANDING COUNCIL If no certain form of Government can bind our posterity as you affirm Then is it free at any time for the People to Assemble and Tumult under the colour of a new Choyce Your next for altering the Form of Government upon a Quarrell onely in point of male-administration I think that cleers it self You say that the Warre was granted just by the King himself c. and a while after if the War were just so was the Conquest also by the Laws of Nations and that the victors are free to chuse a Future Government What would you give that I 'd dispute the Originall of the Quarrell with you Come we 'll not differ about the Kings Concessions Take it for granted that the Warre was just That is The Warre was Just to such intents and with such limits as were the evident and declar'd scope and Bounds of it The Reasons and the Tendency thereof me-thinks they should know best that L●…vied and were Parties in it and for That take but one passage of above a Hundred to the same purpose We are say they so far from altering the Fundamentall Constitution and Government of this Kingdom by King Lords and Commons that we have onely desired that with the consent of the King such Powers may be sett●…ed in the Two Houses c. This Declaration bears date Ap. 17. 1646. and is entitled A Declaration of their true intentions concerning the Antient Government of the Nation c. Now if the Prospect of the War was bounded in Reason and in Honour the Conquest ought to be so likewise Especially where onely extreme necessity was pleaded to make it appear warrantable and where the dispute was Lawfull Liberty and Safety not Dominion Again 't was not against the King the warre was raised therefore the Conquest cannot in Reason Reach him His Honour Safety and Support the two Houses Vowed and Covenanted to maintain Further those Things that you call Victors may by the same Pretence claim to a Conquest over the Lords and their Fellow-Members whom they Forcibly cast out as well as over the King and his Pretensions Lastly if Victory gives Title your Masters are gone too You fall now into a vein of weighing Governments your old Trade and the very Coffee-Boyes have got the knack on 't al most as well as you As you order the Scales the Common-wealth goes Down most usually but now your great Civility gives Us the Better on 't FREE-COMMON-WEALTHS as you will have it have been ever counted fittest for CIVILL VIRTUOUS and Industrious Nations c. believe me then That Form 's not Fit for you and your Adherents MONARCHY Fittest as you hold it forth to curb DEGENERATE CORRUPT IDLE PROUD LUXURIOUS People This does your businesse then Upon necessity yet at last I find a Single Person you 'l 〈◊〉 to entertain provided such a one as ha's best aided the People and best merited against Tyranny That 's your Caution this must be one of those that turn'd the Rump out for never was a more meritorious Service to the Nation Your next Page is a very Angry one You 'll have the Parliament Kide the King you say as well as Bridle him and you 'll perswade the People that there 's Law for 't too The Question 's triviall to cut it short Rumps are no Parliaments But if they be so Sacred as you argue them how bold are you that durst propose the finall Abrogation and extinction of them As in your Ready way you have in Terminis so often done In the next place I●… as you idlely seem to imagine all our Kings are created by Parliament or Conquest What becomes of that Maxime Rex non moritur and why doe you swear Allegeance to Him and his Heirs positively if there be any uncertainty of his being admitted to the Crown In short his Birth entitles him to the Soveraignty I doe not delight my self in these contests but I am willing to lay open your little Tricks to the People You urge next his Coronation-Oath but Deceitfully you make him by his Oath accomptable to Act in Effect according to the Judgement of the People but he swears to Govern according to his own neither does this suppose him at Liberty to Rule according to his Will Once more You say That the Kings principall Oath was to maintein those Laws which the People SHOULD chuse Consuetudines quas Vulgus Elegerit Reconcile Consuetudines referring necessarily to what is Past to Elegerit in the Future Tense and I have done FINIS HEnce-forward there was little left to do but to take Names and Prisoners for the Party Fell without a Blow Lambert was taken Apr. 22. near Daventry by Col. Ingoldsby His Party Scattered and Gather'd up as they were Found Apr. 24. the City-Forces Muster'd in Hide-Park at which time Lambert was brought up a Prisoner and the Day following the Lords and Commons assembled I Have now Finished what I dare scarce reflect upon Yet 't is no more than what the City of London and several Countyes have done in the same Case That there are Rogues there is no Question but yet I should be loth to passe for One if I can help it Having discharg'd my Duty first to my Prince and Country I hope I may be now admitted to do my Self Right with what Event I do not much concern my self To deal Liberally I look upon him that opposes a Multitude as One mad man against Many Nor do I know which is the Greater Folly to Submit the Judgement of Truth and Reason to the great Patron of Passion and Opinion the Common-people or to Dispute it with them Methinks the Case of Calumny does in some sort agree with the Tradition we have of a man that encounters the Devil in a House that 's Haunted he Labours at it Thrusts and Fences but in the End he comes off Bruis'd and Foyl'd Tir'd and Baffl'd with a Shadow Rumour is but a Phantôme every Fool can Rayse it but the whole world can hardly Lay 't again The best on 't is tho' it may Fright and Startle sober Persons it can Harm only those that struggle with it FINIS ERRATA Page 48 Line 27 For Design Read Diligence 54 27 For to Chuse r. to Sit 62 24 dele Have   86 25 For Parliament r. Parliaments 91 ult. For him as r. for him in a●… 95 13 For Cardinal r. Carnal 96 20 For Cheate r. Cheated 103 8 For to the work r. to work 106 8 For were r. where 107 27 For to Prey r. a Prey 108 24 For Disclaim r. Declaim 128 18 For without r. Beyond 129 8 For the Declaration r. a Declaration 8 11 For This Losse r. his Losse 9 10 For these very Gentlemen are Pigeons r. These Gentlemen are very Pigeons A Catalogue of some Books Printed for Henry Brome at the Gun in Ivy-Lane The Aliance of Divine Offices exhibiting all the Liturgies of the Church of England since the Reformation by Hamon L'estrange Esq The Souls Conflict being 8. Sermons preacht at Oxford and so much recommended by the late Dr. Hewyt Dr. Browns Sepulchral Urns and Garden of Cyrus Two Essayes of Love and Marriage The Queens Exchange by Mr. R. Brome Five New Playes by Mr. R. Brome never before printed Adam out of Eden by Mr. Speed Poems on several Persons and occasions by No body must know whom Crums of Comfort Most of Mr. Prynnes books Shepheards Duty of Constables St. Bonaventures Soliloquies Healths Improvement in 4o Mr. Baxters treatise of Conversion in 4o That long-expected piece The Survey of the Law containing directions how to pros●…ute or defend Actions brought at Common Law by William Glisson Esq A Second Ternary of Sermons by the Learned Dr. Stewart The Elements of Water-drawing in 4o Mr. Sprat's Plague of Athens in 4o Jews in America by Mr. Thorowgood The Royal Buckler in 8o Treason Arraigned in Answer to that Dangerous Libel Plain English Condemned by the Council against our King and Nation