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A51360 The Baptist and Independent Churches (so called) set on fire by a bright shining light revealed from heaven their pastors and teachers scorching in the flame of it, gnashing and blaspheming God in his temple ... / by ... Thomas Morford. Morford, Thomas, d. 1693. 1660 (1660) Wing M2727; ESTC R31041 41,223 48

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Lord and shall make it to appeare by the aforegoing words of the Apostle to the Romans and also by the words following that it was not the Apostles then present condition when he said O wretched man that I am c. but a condition that he had once passed through which through Christ he did witness a freedom from Rom. 8,12 onely it was the manner of the Prophets and Apostles when they writ to the people and for the condescending to the low estate or condition that those they writ unto were in to rank themselves with them to wit in using the word We or Us as for instance if we say we have nosin or have not sinned c. And in mamy things we offend all And as Isaiah saith Lord why hast thou caused us to erre from thy wayes James 3.2 1 John 1.8 Isaiah 36.17 But Paul as is a fore shewed affirmed they were really dead to sin Rom. 6.2 and he giveth an infallible reason for it for saith he Know ye not that so many of us as were baptized into Christ were baptized into his death that like as Christ was raised from the grave so they were to walk in newness of life Rom. 6.1 to the 8. and so they came from under the dominion of sin and from under the Condemnation of the Law Rom. 6.14.15 Chap. 8.1 but whiles a man lives the Law hath Power over him He that hath an ear to hear can hear and understand Rom. 5.14 but he over whom and in whom death reigns though he may talk of Christ and his righteousness of Faith and Grace c. yet not being turned to the Light which is the Law Rom. 5.13,14 he is not come so far as the pure law of God neither knowes he it in righteousness and truth but is a stranger unto it for saith Paul Know ye not my brethren how that the Law hath dominion over a man so long as he liveth for I speake to them saith he that know the Law for the woman that hath an husband is bound by the Law to her husband so long as he liveth but if her husband be dead she is loosed from the Law of her husband so that she is no adulteress thoughshe be marryed to another Wherefore saith he my brethren ye also are not that ye shall become dead to the Law by the body of Christ that ye should be marryed to another even to Christ who is raised from the dead thorough whom they brought forth fruits unto God for saith he when they were in the flesh he did not then say they now are in the flesh or following the motions of the flesh the motions of sin which were by the Law wrought in their members sin and brought sorth fruits unto death but now he said they were delivered from the Law that they should serve in newness of spirit Rom 6.15 What shall we say then saith he Rom. 7.7 Is the Law sin God forbid for he had not-known sin except the Law had said Thou shalt not covet But sin taking occasion by the Commandement wrought in him all manner of Concupiscente For he was alive mark and take notice of that ONCE He there told them what he was once but by the receiving of the Law which caused sin to abound and appear exceeding sinful he cried out O wretched man c. So there was a time Paul saw his sin to abound by the Law c. and there was a time he did witness he was dead to sin And there was a time he told them The Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus had freed him from the Law of Sin and Death And that was Paul's then present condition for saith he There is no condemnation to them that are in Christ Jesus who walk not after the flesh or its motions for they that so do cannot please God But saith he Rom. 8.1 to 10. Ye are not in the stesh but in the Spirit if the Spirit of God dwelleth in you Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ he is none of his he gives a character of them that have this Spirit whereby in the Light of the Son of God they may judg and examine themselves for if the Spirit of Christ be in thee the body is dead because of sin but the Spirit is Life because of Righteousness So that through this Spirit of Life Paul did witness a freedom from sin and a Victory over sin on this side the grave and thanked God for it and said He had fought the good sight he had finished his course he had kept the Faith which gave victory over the world or sin and henceforth saith he 2 Cor. 12 7 8,9 there is laid up for me a Crown of Glory and Righteousness which the Lord the Righteous Judge shall give me at that day and not onely to me but unto all them which love his appearance And although Paul did cry out of the thorn in the flesh and of the buffeting of Satan lest he should be exalted above his measure Tit. 2.11,12 the Lord did not impute that unto him as sin but said My grace is sufficient for thee which Grace taught Paul and the Saints to deny sin and ungodliness whereby they lived like God in that present world So that it is evident by the Scriptures of Truth that the Apostles and Saints in Light did witness a redemption from sin and were regenerated washed and cleansed and sanctified on this side the grave Read and compare these Scriptures 1 Cor. 1.30 Rom. 6.2.7.22 Ch. 7.6 Rom. 8.2 to 10. 1 Cor. 6.11 Ch. 15.55,56,57 2 Tim. 4.7,8 1 Pet. 4.1,2 So I being cast into Prison that very day that Priest Whale thus affirmed not giving any just offence in word or action as Priest Whale passed by the Prison I required him to prove where man should be made free from sin seeing that he had affirmed That the godliest man that ever was did not get the victory over sin on this side the grave His Answer was They should be cleansed in heaven O wretched man How hast thou darkned the Counsel of the most High God uttering words without the true knowledg of God from thy wisdom which is from beneath which is earthly sensual and bruitish and how hast thou deceived thousands of souls Wo is me for thee the Controversie of the Lord will be great with thee and you all and have taken their moneys for that which is not Bread and have made them spend their labour all the daies of their lives for that which doth not profit their immortal souls which wil be required at thine such blind guides hands as thou art May not the People State wch have given thee a great house 150 l. a year some say 200 l. a year truly say It is for nought for if people can never be made free from sin or get the victory over sin on this side the grave the contrary
THE BAPTIST AND Independent Churches So called Set on Fire By a bright shining LIGHT revealed from Heaven Their PASTORS and TEACHERS scorching in the flame of it Gnashing and Blaspheming God and his Tabernacle As their Principles rash and judging herein recorded do demonstrate which are answered for the vindicating of Truth and the satisfying of the simple In which they are found to be children of them who killed the Just and have drunken of the Cup of Fornication who also must drink of the Cup of Indignation at the hand of the Lord. Wherein also is an Exhortation unto all people to examine themselves in what state and condition they are and to meet the Lord by repentance before that great Day of wrath that is come and coming to overtake them and they perish for ever In which all flesh shall QVAKE and TREMBLE Wherein also are some of the everlasting Truths of God revealed whereby all that have desires and breathings after God and to be partakers of the Divine Nature of Christ and would be acquainted with the one Faith and one Baptism and with the way that leads into it and the Kingdom of God may be directed into it Whereby every Particular may by an infallible testimony according to the Law and Testimony come to know whether they are in the one truth and in it walking In it also is a Word of Comfort to the IEWS Likewise is shewed when all Carnal Ordinances which stood in time and outward things and had a limitation of time ended to every one that believes which were types and figures and what they did prefigure is proved by the holy Scriptures of truth By one who is labouring and seeking the Redemption of all mankind in Christ Iesus who would not that any should perish but come to the knowledge of the Yruth. THOMAS MORFORD Isa 10 17. And the Light of Israel shall be for a fire and his holy One for a flame and it shall burn and devour his thorns and bryars in one day Rev. 16.9,10 And men were scorched with great heat and blasphemed the Name of God which hath power over these Plagues and they repented not to give him glory c. And they gnawed their tongues for pain Hosea 4.15 I will go and reurn to my place till they acknowledge their offence and they seek me in their afflictions London Printed for Robert Wilson and are to be sold at his shop at the sign of the Black-spread-Eagle and Windmill in Martins l'Grand 1660. The heads of things contained in this BOOKE 1. EDward Whale Priest of Waterford his Doctrine That none was ever free from sin in this life answered pag. 1. 2. Robert Carr Baptist Pastor of Clonmel his Doctrine Tha● the Scripture is the Rule of Life and Faith and the more sure Word of Prophesie and the Law and Testimony answered and confuted and the true and perfect Rule and Guide and the Law and Testimony shewed what and where it is p. 9. 3. The said Priest Whale and Priest Millard of Passage affirming That the Light within us is darkness are here answered p. 11. 4. An answer to Samuel Wade Baptist-Teacher who saith He believes that the Quakers are under the highest delusion in magnifying the Light within in opposition to Christ without and the Scriptures p. 12. 5. An answer to an affirmation of Joseph Parsons a Teacher of the Free-willers viz. That God would purge the Tribe of Levi to offer sacrifices external as of old p. 22. 6. A rash Judgement of William Lee Baptist Teacher and Governor of Waterford reproved and found false and so proved according to the Law and Testimony Wherein also is a true Testimony of the operation of the Eternal Power and Spirit of the Lord in the work of Regeneration c. p. 24. 7. An objection That we observe not the Ordinances of Christ as Baptism c. answered What that Baptism Matth. 28. was viz. A threefold Ministration by the same spirit John's Baptism a figure fulfilled and ended Baptism into Christ is another thing then that of water the figure William Lee and William Lamb their gross actions of violence manifesting their fruitless baptism p. 28. 8. Breaking of Bread a figure carnal and perishing continuing onely till he came who is come the end of all figures The form not to be used in imitation without power p. 32 9 The Doctrine of Pastor Hunt Baptist against Perfection answered Of Imitation which is Idolatry Truth purifieth and perfecteth A silence of flesh must be before God's Teaching can be received But the Spirit being poured out both Sons and Daughters may prophesie p. 34 To the impartial and unprejudiced REDER READER WHoever thou art that art enquiring after the Good old Way to walk there and hast desires to be directed therein but art a stranger unto that or knowest not where to have it which should give thee an entrance therein here in this following Book is that plainly demonstrated according to the holy Scriptures of Truth which should give thee an entrance therein and also where it is illustrated by infallible testimonies by one who hath wandred from Mountain to Hill to seek the Lord breathing and panting after him as the chased Hart after the Brooks of water but found him not until he came to wait at the true Door which is CHRIST the LIGHT which gives the true entrance into the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ And seeing according to the Scriptures of Truth perilous times are come many are crying Lo her 's Christ and lo there 's Christ whereby the simple-hearted which have true hungerings thirstings after God and would be acquainted with the One Truth one Faith and one Baptism and one Lord Jesus Christ know not which way to turn by reason of the many inventions of man and voices that are in the world each one esteeming hie own his invention that he worshippeth his God with to be the best way Therefore in the fear of God in the cool and calm spirit read over this Book wherein thou shalt find many of the Principles and Doctrines of some of the eminentest Professors Pastors and Teachers who have a form of godliness but deny the Power the which I was an ear witness of and when I heard it I said in mine heart Great men are not alwayes wise in the wisdom of God But in the grief of my soul I said Men of high degree are a lye and men of low degree are vanity Wherein also is an Answer thereunto according to the holy Scriptures of Truth by which their folly is made manifest though not with enticing words or in the form or method of the Serpents wisdom unto whom it is not directed nor for their sakes who by his wisdom are acted is it written Therefore let that noble spirit be in thee as was in the Bereans Search the Scriptures and compare them together and see whether the things herein be true let that of
I have proved by the Scripture of Truth is it not then plainly made manifest that thou hast taken the peoples mony for nought and deceived them and so hast clothed thy self with the fine of the wooll and thy wife her garments laced with silver and gold from the neck down to the foot the poor ready to perish with hunger and nakedness 1 Tim. 1.2 1 Tim. 2.9,10 lace upon lace some near as broad as four fingers which is not according to the ornaments of the holy women of old which were not laced with silver or gold or plaiting of the hair but covered with the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit which in the sight of God is of great price and hast fed thy self with the fat and neither thou nor any of you all have fed the poor and needy nor bound up that which is broken nor healed at the bottom that which was sick nor brought again that which was driven away but with fierce wrath and cruelty have ye ruled And now to cover thy wickedness and deceit thou Priest Whale sayest They must be cleansed from sin in Heaven which is also contrary to the Scripture which saith No unclean thing Idolaters nor Adulterers effeminate persons nor abusers of themselves with mankind nor covetous persons nor drunkards nor revilers nor extortioners or any that defiles or works abomination or that makes a lye shall inherit the kingdom of God or enter into that holy City and as the tree falls so it lies Eccl. 1.3 1 Cor. 6.9 Rev. 21.27 But saith Paul such were take notice some of you But they came to be washed cleansed and sanctified by the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of their God before ever they entered God's Kingdom which is joy righteousness and peace in the Holy Ghost 1 Cor. 6.9 to the 11. Rom. 14.17 And now let that of God in you all judge Whether that Doctrine Priest Whale preached be according to the Scriptures and all people beware of them to wit such Teachers as Priest Whale and come out from amongst them lest ye partake of their plagues and consider your paths and ponder your waies and what you have benefitted in the things of God by following and learning of such Teachers and cease from them and mind that of God in you and as you come to mind and obey that it will lead you unto God the Father of Life and open your understandings and as you come to wait on the Lord it will reveal the true knowledge and glory of God in you in the face of Jesus Christ the key of which your Teachers have taken from you and caused you to err from the right way of the Lord even CHRIST the LIGHT who is the Way the Truth and the Life 2. The Principles and judging of Robert Car Baptist Pastor in Clonmell He affirmed the 10 th day of the 5 th month 1659 That the Scripture was the Rule of Life and Faith to Salvation And that the Scripture was the more sure word of Prophecie that Peter spake of and the Law Testimony And for us that are called Quakes to affirm that the Spirit of truth from God received was the true rule of life to salvation c. he said It was a fiction of the Devil Answ The true and everlasting Rule of life to Salvation and the Author of Faith which is Christ the holy Scripture is a true declaration of which is Christ the Eternal son of God the Spirit of life and truth which lighteth every one that cometh into the world that all men through him might believe Joh. 16.13 which whosoever loves and followes the Light of the son of God comes to receive the Spirit of Life and truth which leades into all truth and the Light and Spirit of truth is the Law and Testimony which was before the writings of Matthew Mark Luke and John for ●aith Isaiah Isa 8.26 To the Law and to the Testimony Now when Isaiah spake those words the Evangelists writings were not writen Jer. 32.40 Heb. 8.10 Ier. 31.33 Prov. 6 23 therefore the Law and Testimony is another thing and within man for saith God I wil make an everlasting Covenant with the house of I srael I wil put my Law and fear in their hearts and write it in their inward parts Now the Law is the Light which they that believe in follow come to receive the spirit of Life and truth as I said before and that is the Testimony of Jesus for the Testimony of Jesus saith John is the spirit of Prophesie Rev. 19.10 And this Spirit the Apostle did witness was come amongst them and bare witness to their Spirits that they were the sons of God for saith he because ye are sonnes God hath given forth the Spirit of his Son into your take notice hearts Gal. 4 6. And by this Spirit and Light they came to be led out of the lusts of the flesh and through the Cross of Christ knew a crucifying of it and that life in them that stood in outwards signes and things that perished in the using which Paul gloried not in neither desired to glory in any thing save the Cross of Christ for he knew and said Gal. 6.15 Circumcision though it was in its time serviceable and commanded of the Lord yet it availed them nothing yea he told them Gal. 5.2 If they were Circumcised Christ would profit them nothing But the new was to be accepted which was the onely work of the Spirit of the Lord through its eternal working and operation in their hearts circumcising of it and cleansing of it Gal. 5.6 whereby they who abides its working comes to receive the faith of God's Elect which works by love into the obedience to the Spirit of Truth and the sure word of Prophecie which is nigh them even in their hearts and mouths which divideth the evil motions and the evil words from the good and gives power against them as they do appear whereby all that come to obey and take heed unto that more sure Word come to know their sanctification and so the New Creature they come to know and the Mercy and Peace of God comes to be mustiplied in them and on them walking according to that Rule And Peter did not say the Writings of the Evangelists were that more sure Word than that they heard in the Mount which was the living Word of the Lord that abides for ever which by the Gospel was preached unto them and of this Living Word must all be born that ever come to know salvation which Word is in the heart and is quick and powerful and sharper than any two-edged sword even to the dividing of the joints and marrow soul and spirit and the thoughts and intents of the heart And this WORD David said hee had hid in his heart out of which came the Issues of life So Peter told them of another Word than the Words heard in the
I demanded whether he meant Carnall sacrifices c. to wit the blood of bulls and goats c. as in the Leviticall Priesthood he answered Yea as in the former days of old and as in the years past Answ Here Joseph Parsons would go to make Christ the one offering by which he hath for ever perfected them that are sanctified to be of none effect by which one offering he changed both Law and Priesthood disannulled the Commandements which stood in meats and drinks and Carnall washings and the sacrificing and offering of the blood of bulls and goats c. which never made those that were the actors thereof clean or perfect as pertaining to the conscience which were but types and figures and stood in time and had a limitation of time to wit till the time of reformation Heb. 9.9.10 and though there was a time the Lord had regard unto those sacrifices c. And that they were as a sweet savour unto him and he delighted in them and in those that offered them Yet when their hearts went a whoring after other lovers And turned that which once the Lord required of them into Idolatry then the Lord loathed it and them and their solemnities-were a burden unto him and he sent his Prophets rising early to cry against them And by the mouth of the Prophets the Lord told them he had not required these things at their hands but it was abomination unto him Isa 1.11 to the 15. As saith the Lord I have not caused thee O Jacob to serve with offerings neither hast thou honoured me with thy sacrifices but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins as saith the Apostle Sacrifices and Carnall offerings thou wouldest not O God but a body hast thou prepared me c. So that when that body of Christ Jesus was offered up which came to do the will of God according as it was written in the Volume of the Book he mark for ever perfected and sanctified them which believed and followed him and changed that Law and Priesthood and is the end of it for righteousness sake c. And so I say if the work of Christ in this the mighty day of his Power and Judgement in which he is come and coming as a refiners fire to purge and purifie the Sons of Levy that they might offer an offering in righteousness c. I say if it were to offer Carnall Sacrifices as in the days of old it would be a building again that which he hath changed and I saith the Lord change not but the Apostles amongst whom that day of Judgement first began for one day is with the Lord as a thousand years c. they plainly shews what that offering was which the Prophet Mal. spoke of which should be pleasant unto the Lord as in the days of old and in former years c. for saith the Apostle to them which had tasted that the Lord was gracious ye also as Living stones are built up take notice of the offering that should bee pleasant c. a spirituall house an holy Priesthood to offer up spirituall sacrifices acceptable to God by Jesus Christ this was and is the everlasting offering that is offered up by the members of the Church and first fruits unto God since the long night of Apostancy who as living stones are built up a spirituall house a royall priesthood a holy nation a peculiar people that the Lord hath called out of darkness into the marvellous Light to shew forth his praise who hath lead and is leading through the judgment and the fire whereby blessing and glory glory to the Lord in the highest many are purged and purified even as fine gold through which they are come into the pure Life of Jesus from which an offering a sweet odour a savour acceptable unto the Lord as in the days of old and years past in righteousness is offered unto the Lord. So Joseph Parsons hath manifested himself to be amongst the Babylonish foolish builders and ignorant of the Scriptures not dividing the word aright The words of the Prophet Jeremiah are fulfilled in the Pastors for saith he the Pastors are become brutish and have not known the Lord in rightousness therefore they shall not prosper and all their flocks shall be scattered Jer. 10.21 And when the Prophet spoke of that day of the Lord in which the Lord would be and now is a swift witness against the forcerer the false prophet and false swearers adulterers and oppressors c. and also of the offering that should be pleasant c. He doth not speak there of the Carnall offerings of the Leviticall Priesthood but of the offerings of Judah c. Heb. 7.14 Mal. 3.4 And the Scripture saith it is evident that our Lord sprungout of Judah of which there was nothing spoke concerning Priesthood So this day that Scripture is fulfilled in your ears for the offering of Judah according to the Spirit and Jerusalem which is come down from God out of heaven and is free the mother of us all is pleasant unto the Lord as in the days of old and years past compare Mat. 3.4 1 Pet. 2.4 Gal. 4.25.26 Rev. 21.2 And they are not all Israel who are of Israel after the flesh but they are of the true Israel that are born of the immortall Word of God that lives and abides for ever in whose mouth is found no guile neither tells a lye and hee made all nations on the face of the whole earth of one flesh and blood Jo. 1.17 Rev. 14 5 Act. 17.26 and in Christ Jesus there is no difference whether Jew or Gentile male or female circumcision uncircumcision Barbarian Scythian bond or free for ye mark that are all one in Christ Jesus saith the Apostle Gal. 3.28 Col. 3.11 for Israel after the flesh stumbled at Christ the chief corner stone as many of the Pastors and Teachers now do at Christ the Light within so he is not a Jew who is one outwardly but he is a true Jew who is one inwardly following the Lamb in the regeneration whose praise is of God and not of man yet a bundantly will the Lord be glorified in the Jews according to the flesh the day of whose redemption draws near and their captivity hastneth to be at an end and that is the Word of the Lord God of hosts to the Jews 6 The rash Judgement of William Lee Baptist Teacher Governour of Waterford reproved and found false and so proved according to the Law and Testimony wherein also is a true testimony of the operation of the eternall power and Spirit of the Lord in the work of regeneration c. On the 4 day of the 6 month 1659. I being at And. Richets house then Mayor of Waterford about my releasing out of prison being then a prisoner for the testimony of Jesus And there being present he called Colenell William Lee and William Lamb a Baptist Pastor this did occasion some conference about the
things of God I earnestly contending for the faith of Gods Elect once delivered to the Saints which gives victory over sin and bearing my testimony to Gods righteous Law and Spirit of Truth in man which largely afore is proved by the Scriptures of truth for all men by it to be guided having received a measure thereof this was the substance of what I there declared That of God in them bears me record which is the everlasting truth of God But William Lee Teacher and William Lamb Pastor strongly opposed me crying out The Ordiances of Christ The Ordinances of Christ to wit the Supper of the Lord and water Baptism which stood in time and were Ordinances of God and Christ But had a limitation of time and are ended in Christ the everlasting substance to every one that believes and follows as will be proved by the Scriptures of truth So he call'd Colonell Will. Lee governour and Baptist Teacher affirmed in the presence of Will. Lamb Pastor the Mayor and Aldermen so called and severall Captains and other men of quality in the worlds account both Baptists and Independants That I was absolutely damned and did not believe the truth nor abide in the Doctrine and Ordinances of Christ Now I appeal to Gods witness in the consciences of all who cry out that the Quakers do Judge when did any of the Quakers that are so in truth give such rash Judgement as to say any man was absolutely damned which is a secret belonging onely to God except the unbeliever confess it out of his own mouth or that the fruits of his Life make it appear But blessed be the Lord God and Father of Light through his eternall Love in Christ Jesus I do believe and follow the Truth which is Christ Jesus the Light of the world that Lighted every one that comes into the world and am dead with Christ buried with him in Baptism in measure and cannot bee subject to Ordinances that perish in the using and he that believes and is baptized shall be saved but he that believes not shall be damned And this testimony I give to all the world and sons of men on the face of the whole earth I do believe that Jesus Christ the Saviour of the souls of mankind was the eternall Son of God born of a Virgin whose name and interpretation I truly in my measure witness even the Emmanuel God with us who made a good confession before Pontius Pilate that he was Crucified and Buried and by the mighty Power and Glory of God the Father of Life was raised again and appeared unto his Disciples and was received up to eternall Glory and Glorified with the Father with the same Glory he had before the world began And much more do I believe in him and of him according as it is recorded in the holy Scriptures of Truth concerning him which I may not now declare And this Testimony I give for the Lord God and his truth unto all who have breathings after Christ and are hungering and thirsting after his righteousness But are gazing abroad and seeking him in outward observations c. that Christ Jesus the second Adam the quickning Spirit is come the second time without sin unto salvation in his chosen thousands Therefore turn in your mindes to that of God in you Rom. 1.19 and remember the woman that lost the groat and could not find it untill she had Lighted a Candle the Candle of the Lord is the Spirit of man the Light of Christ Lightneneth it and swept her house and when she found it she called her Neighbours and rejoiced read the Parable who can And I can truly say as Paul did he is come to save sinners of which I was chief which lived in Pride Lust Vanity blaspheming his holy name but have obtained mercy because it was in the time of ignorance and unbelief not through works that I have done but of his everlasting free Love Yet have born his Just and Righteous Judgements and deeply have drank of the cup of his fierce wrath and indignation and can truly say I am washed cleansed sanctified and Justified in my measure by the water the blood and the Spirit which three agree in one in the work of regeneration and so through the faith of God which works by love am brought in obedience to the Doctrine of Christ and his commands and in it to abide and this is his Doctrine Blessed be the poor in Spirit blessed be the meek blessed be they that mourn c. Thou hast heard that it hath been said of old time thou shalt not forswear thy selfe but I say unto you swear not at all and when thou prayest be not like the Hypocrites which stand praying in Pulpits and call no man master neither be ye called of man master and Love your enemies give to him that asketh and from him that would borrow turn not away that you may be children of your heavenly Father for he maketh his Sun to shine on the evill and on the good and sendeth rain on the Just and unjust and he that looketh on a woman to Lust after her hath already Committed adultry with her in his heart c. And lay not up for your selves treasure in the earth where the moth and Canker do corrupt but lay up for your selves treasure in heaven where neither moth nor rust do corrupt nor thievs break through and steal And I say unto you saith Christ swear not at all but in all your Communications let your yea be yea and your nay be nay for whatsoever is more then that cometh of evill and take no thought what ye shall eat or what ye shall drink or wherewithall ye shall be cloathed and take no thought for to morrow But first seck the Kingdom of God and his righteousness c. And be ye perfect even as your heavenly Father is perfect and his Ministers bid try all things and hold fast that which is good flee youthfull Lusts of Vanity abstain from every appearance of evill quench not the Spirit but if any thing be revealed to him that stands by let the first hold his peace c. Now whether thou William Lee and ye Baptists which cry out the Ordinances of Christ and the Commands of Christ be in the obedience to those weightier Commands and Ordinances which is fulfilled through faith mercy and Judgement upon the head of the transgressor I say whether you Baptists or we despisedly called Quakers be in the obedience to those Commands c. And many other which might be mentioned of Christ and his Ministers and abides in their Doctrine Let that of God in all Judge which the least of those or any of his Commands knowningly or willfully I dare not disobey if I might gain the whole world God is my record I lye not And he that saith he knows God mark that you Baptists and keepeth not his Commandements is a lyar and the truth is not in him 1 Jo. 2.4 So
the truth of Christ and his Doctrine I do believe and abide in through his mercy and Power Obj. But thou dost not practice the Ordinances of bread and baptising of water Well let us reason together Answ I do require and challenge all the Baptists in the Nation to prove by express words for he that addeth or diminisheth to or from the words written in the Booke God will adde to him the Plagues written therein where ever Christ did baptize with Water or command any to baptize with Elementary Water That Matth. 28,19 Go teach all Nations baptizing them c. doth not speak of Elementary Water and it is evident the Scripture doth speak of other Baptism then John's which was onely Elementary Water which I also do believ was a Command of God to John though sometimes practised by the Disciples but fulfilled and ended by and in Christ to every one that believes and follows the Light of Christ within which leads to the one Baptism the weightier matter spoken of Eph. 4.5 And I have a Baptism to be baptized with saith Christ and how am I straitened ti●l it be accomplished Luk. 12.50 Now Christ had fulfilled John's Baptism as to himself before he spoke those words and was before that baptized of John as you may read Luke 3.2 And himself did prophesie the decreasing of his Ministration For saith he I baptize with water unto repentance but he that cometh after me who is mightier then I he shall baptize you with the holy Ghost and with fire He doth not say Christ should baptize with Water but with the Holy Ghost c. And he shall encrease saith John but I shal decrease And when the Apostle came to Ephesus finding certain Disciples which had take notice been baptized before that unto John he said unto them Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed And they said We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost Then saith Paul who was not sent to baptize with water for I baptized none saith he except Crispus and Paulus c. and the houshold of Stephanus To what were ye baptized They said Unto John Then saith he John verily baptized with the Baptism of Repentance saying That they should believe on him that should come after him Christ Jesus When they heard that they were baptized into Christ and Paul laid his hands on them and they received the holy Ghost Acts 19.1 to the 6. So it is evident as I said before there is another Baptism then Water-Baptism as true experience of many can witness who are now baptised and baptizing into the Father Son and Holy Ghost or into Christs death according to the Scriptures of Truth for saith the Apostle Know ye not that so many of us as have been baptized into Christ were baptized into his death c. Rom. 6.3 And he said unto the Galatians As many of you as have been Baptized into Christ have put on Christ Gal. 3.27 So the Scripture doth not say any where that they that are baptized into the Father are baptized with water or they that are baptized into the Son and Holy Ghost are baptized with Elementary water which onely was a type or figure of the inward washing and sanctifying for the baptisme of the Father Son and Holy Ghost is three distinct things of a various operation though wrought by one and the same spirit the one a ministration of Terror and Condemnation the second of Salvation or washing and cleansing from sin and the third a Sanctifying and Glorifying with the same Glory that was with the Father before the world or sin began And so I do affirm in the fear of the Lord which is according to the Scriptures of Truth That Christ is the end of the Law and of John's ministration for righteousness sake to every one that believes in the Light which Christ hath enlightned every one withall that whosoever I say believes in the Light of Christ in them it leads as they follow it into the one baptism Eph. 4.5 and daily Cross of Christ to the Crucifying and slaying of the Lusts of the flesh Pride of Life envyings wrath strife adulteries Idolatry witchcraft variance emulation seditions heresie Drunkenness murders self-willedness c. the which they that live in are not Christs neither are such actions the fruits of the members of the true Church And whether many of those sins be not standing amongst you Baptists Let that of God in you all Judge for I standing peaceably in a meeting amongst the Baptists in Waterford where William Lee was Preaching and when he had done I stood upon a form to speak the Word of the Lord that was in my heart as fire desiring their moderation I speaking no other things then what is contained in the Scriptures of Truth but Will. Lee came out of his Pulpit and laid violent hands on me and thrust me down gnashing his teeth on me Another member of that Church Serjeant Wilson Constable of the Town laid violent hands on me and haled me out of the room and said That I deserved to be stoned to death and another time I walking peaceably in the next room to their meeting came Geo. Caldron called an Alderman and told me It was their hired house and if I did stay there it should be to my perill and the day aforesaid when I was with the Mayor when Will. Lamb Pastor was taking his leave of the Mayor he bowed hat and knee saying Your humble servant Sir according to the fashion of the world which passeth away for which I reproving him he came and laid hands on my hat and took it off my head and threw it violenton the ground which some of his Brethren would have had him taken up again but he would not so because I know they were ashamed of the brutishness of their Pastor one of them took up my hat and ran after me and put it on my head which was said to be Captain Boulton And that same day because I testified the writings of the Prophets and Apostles were not the Word of God but I said that which was spoken from the Spirit of God were the Words of God but Christ is the Word Bov. 19. Jo. 1.1 So Will. Lamb was speaking with the rest and would have had me to been taken hold of for he said there was an Act of Parliament that if any should say the Scripture was not the Word of God they should suffer c. And being somtime after that amongst the Baptists of Waterford Jo. Deck a Teacher of them was whispering with some of his Brethren and came presently unto me and held up the Bible in his hand and asked me whether that was not the Word of God Judas-like to betray or insnare me I asked him whether that was the Word of God which Rabshaka and Sennacherib spoke blaspheming and reproaching the Living God and that the Devil spoke to Christ his answer was That it was And Roger