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as_o also_o in_o the_o prophet_n as_o be_v translate_v by_o the_o septuagint_n exit_fw-la te_fw-la mihi_fw-la erit_fw-la dux_n qui_fw-la regat_fw-la populum_fw-la meum_fw-la israel_n out_o of_o thou_o shall_v come_v a_o captain_n unto_o i_o that_o shall_v rule_v my_o people_n israel_n 16._o mat._n 16._o so_o that_o by_o the_o usual_a phrase_n of_o scripture_n to_o make_v st._n peter_n a_o shepherd_n or_o feeder_n be_v to_o make_v he_o ruler_n governor_n and_o prince_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n so_o when_o christ_n say_v to_o peter_n whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v loose_v or_o bind_v he_o restrain_v not_o the_o power_n unto_o sin_n nor_o unto_o the_o person_n for_o he_o say_v not_o quemcuuque_n but_o quodcunque_fw-la not_o whosoever_o but_o whatsoever_o thou_o shall_v bind_v or_o loose_v his_o meaning_n be_v to_o signify_v and_o express_v a_o universal_a power_n of_o bind_v and_o loose_v that_o be_v of_o command_v of_o make_v law_n of_o dispense_v as_o it_o shall_v be_v find_v needful_a 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c._n 37._o henry_n iu_o by_o gregory_n vii_o so_o that_o in_o this_o your_o opinion_n you_o err_v and_o wander_v without_o any_o guide_n or_o companion_n but_o certain_a ancient_a and_o modern_a heretic_n and_o in_o particular_a marsilius_n of_o milan_n for_o one_o as_o it_o be_v testify_v by_o the_o cardinal_n de_fw-fr turre_n cremata_fw-la nâ—y_o more_o the_o pope_n can_v be_v judge_v by_o the_o council_n except_o in_o case_n of_o heresy_n upon_o which_o point_n and_o article_n all_o catholic_n be_v agree_v and_o herein_o lie_v your_o second_o falsity_n for_o pope_n john_n xii_o be_v not_o find_v culpable_a of_o heresy_n but_o only_o of_o scandalous_a and_o inordinate_a life_n in_o which_o case_n he_o can_v not_o be_v judge_v beside_o that_o council_n by_o which_o pope_n john_n be_v depose_v be_v no_o lawful_a council_n but_o a_o conventicle_n schismatical_a and_o without_o a_o head_n whereupon_o it_o be_v abrogate_a and_o cass_v not_o long_o after_o who_o so_o desire_v to_o know_v 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