THE SECOND PART OF THE History of Whiggisme OR THE Whiggish-PLOTS PRINCIPLES and PRACTICES Mining and Countermining THE TORY-PLOTS PRINCIPLES and PRACTICES In REIGN of King CHARLES I. TORY ONce more well met Mr. Tantivee and honest Whigg Tantivee Whigg We come on purpose to hear the Continuation of your History of Whiggisme Tory. I neither am able nor do I pretend to tell you any thing but what is to be found in Chronicles Histories and at large already in Print Tant Ay but I have not Money to buy them nor Leisure to read large Volumes give us onely an Abridgment out of those vaster Collections in relation only to the Whiggisme of them Tory. With all my heart where left I off Tant At Mr. Moor's Release and Discharge by his Gracious Majesty Charles 1. and the Imprisonment and Release of the Earl of Arundel Tory. Oh! 'T is Right Whigg But was not that part of the Kings Answer about the Imprisonment of the Earl of Arundel namely My Lords By this I do not mean to shew the Power of a King by diminishing your Priviledges ill resented by the House of Lords Tory. It plainly Intimated that the King thought He had such a Power or some about him made him believe he had such a Power of a King to Diminish their Priviledges but he did not mean to show it Tant No the more Gracious King He. Tory. However the House of Lords were so Allarum'd at the Expression that lest they should happen to have a King that was less Gracious or of a worse Meaning they would not meddle with any Business 'till they had secured as well as claim'd their Priviledges by another Tenure than what was meerly Arbitrary Ad libitum Regis and therefore Adjourn'd in Disgust resolving unanimously to take nothing into Consideration 'till they had Contrived how their Priviledges might be Secur'd to Posterity which being perceiv'd the Earl of Arundel as you have heard was Releas't to them for which he was thankfull Tant Ay that was right Tory-like and most Loyally done some Whiggs would not so Religiously have Kist the Rod that whips them Whigg 'T is somewhat against the Grain of Humanity to fawn Spaniel-like upon the Hand that beats them Tant Some men are so Loyal as to make a Legg at every Box of the Ear Who may say to a King what dost thou Whigg Misapply'd and Misconstru'd Scriptures make up a Tantivee and makes a man be a Tantivee Tant Why Is not the King's Will a Law Whigg In France they say and in Turkey not in England for so the Barons of England told the two Cardinals whom the Pope sent to Reconcile the Differences betwixt King and People about Magna Charta Liberties and Prerogative That there were many Worthy and Learned men in the Kingdom whose Council they would use and not Strangers who knew not the cause of their Commotion in the Reign of K. Edward 2. Tory. No I must confess that Forreigners unacquainted with the Fundamental Constitution of our Government and Laws are no Competent Judges of the lawfulness or unlawfulness of Contests betwixt King and People Whigg Ay the English were alwayes tender of their Liberties Tant But if English Kings did Invade their Liberties they used no Remedy I hope but Prayers and Tears Whigg And Bows and Arrows and long Swords until the Kings were Contented to Rule them according to their Oath and the Law of the Land Tant Ay Perhaps when they happened to have some easie weak timerous and condescending King Whigg No In such a juncture they were alwayes the calmer but grew rough raging high and boysterous the more vehement strong and tempestuous their Kings were as for Instance in Edw. 1. another Saul for he was higher and taller than ordinary men by the Head and Shoulders and as Tyrannical too as King Saul was He at one time at the Instigation of William Marchian then Lord Treasurer fetch 't all the Riches out of the Churches and Religious Houses and put it into his own Exchequer Loans Benevolences the Writ of Trailbaston great Fines were used by him in the Seventeenth Year of his Reign he Fined all his Judges pretending for Corruption the least of them one thousand Marks an immense Summe in those dayes but some of them two thousand some three thousand some four thousand some six thousand and the Chief Justice Sir Ralph de Hengham seven thousand Marks the Chief Baron Sir Adam Stratton four and thirty thousand Marks but from Thomas Wayland all his Goods and whole Estate Confiscate and himself Banish't and just so he used the Jews which were then in England very rich and very numerous 'T is said of K. Hen. 8. that he never Spared Man in his Anger nor Woman in his Lust but King Edw. 1. was as resolv'd as he as Couragious and Stout leaving the Marks of his personal Valour the Trophies of his Victories in the Holy-land before he was King but he could Disguise his furious Resentments and Adjourn Revenge seven and seven Years 'till he could safely Execute it Tant Safely why who should or durst say to that most Couragious and Victorious King that thrice Conquer'd Scotland France and Wales What dost thou Whigg His own People and Subjects forc't him to reason and to Rule them according to Law his Oath and Magna Charta the Parliament-men came to his Parliament Attended with Armed men very numerous at Stamford 28 Edw. 1. to make him fulfill and Execute the Charter of the Forrest says Walsingham and Knighton two Famous Historians of those times Rex Angliae sub his diebus Parliamentum tenuit Stamford ad quod convenerunt Comites Barones cum equis armis co prout dicebatur proposito ut Executionem Chartae de Foresta hactenùs dilatam extorquerent mind that ad plenum Tant Ay but how did the Stout King Edward Treat these Armed Petitioners Whigg They ask't nothing but what the Laws and his own Oath ought to have Compelled him unto and the King yielded to their Requests Rex autem eorum Instantiam Importunitatem attendens eorum voluntati in omnibus condescendit Knighton sayes De quâ re Rex Integrè plenè eorum voluntatem Implevit ad vota in which matter the King fully and wholly granted their Desires to their Wishes Tant It was very civilly done of him Whigg It was wisely and honestly done and as his Coronation Oath Equity Reason Conscience and the Laws from none of which English Kings pretend to be exempt did adjure him and Constrain him and they are devillish Councellors and the Kings worst Enemies and Traitors that perswade him to act contrary to Law Power is high enough without being wanton and lasts longest when it is not Stretcht to the height or Over-stretcht 't is a wonder that a thing so uneasie should please Tory. Ambition and Covetousness know no bounds and I have read King Edward got the Pope to set him free from the
for there he was Stabb'd by Lieutenant Felton Whigg Upon what Provocation Tory. I 'le tell you anon as for the Loans the King Promis'd that this way should not be made a President for the time to come to charge them or their Posterity to the Prejudice of their Just and Ancient Liberties enjoyed under his most Noble Progenitors and Promising them In the Word of a Prince to repay such Summes Tant That is to be understood when he has the Money to repay Whigg Yes but that time never yet came Tant I am not for this kind of Lending whether I will or no and without being able to sue for or recover neither by fair means nor foul neither Principal nor Interest I 'le Swear Whigg Nay Do not Swear I 'le believe the Parson without Searing for Men of thy Coat and Tantivee-principle seldom put out Money to Interest or Use except to the Ale-house or Tavern to wipe out the Chalk and clear old Scores and then run fresh upon Tick again what needs thou to care for the Liberties and Charters of an English-man thou hast no Inheritance to lose nor will thy Heirs fall out or quarrel about the Land thou leavest them thou wilt take a Course for that and make thine own Hands and Guts thy Executors Tory. To the Imposition of Loans was added the Burthen of Billeting of Souldiers return'd from that unsuccesseful and dishonourable Voyage from Cadiz and Moneys to discharge their quarters were for the present to be levyed upon the Countrey to be repay'd out of Summes Collected upon the General Loan Tant Yes when they could catch it Tory. The Companies were scattered here and there all the Kingdom over but that did not much affright men out of their Purses though many Felonies Robberies Rapes and Murders were Committed by the Souldiers and Mariners but they were governed by Martial-law and some were Executed but they Mastered the People disturbed the Peace of Families committed frequent Rapes Burglaries and Robberies Murthers and Barbarous Cruelties which made a general Outcry and Lamentation wherever they came but the Lord Chief Justice Sir Randolph Crew lost his Place for not favouring the Loan and in his room succeeded a right Cavalier Sir Nicholas Hide who yet for his Abilities and Skill in Law might without blushing climb up to the Bench but he could not without great disgust and general Prejudice succeed a man so universally belov'd as was Sir Randolph Crew To advance this Loan one Sibthorp had contriv'd a Tantivee-Sermon Preached by him at Northampton at Lent Assiizes upon Rom. 13.7 called Apostolical Obedience and by all means the Divinity must be in Print or else you 'l say how could it have reacht the Ears of Bishop Laud or made room for Preferment And Archbishop Abbot must License it under his own Hand or take what followes Tant Why sure he would not lose his Archbishoprick for want of Subscribing his Name Tory. He refused to do it though the Court prest him earnestly to do it and his Archbishoprick was Sequestred soon after Whigg Some said it was Bishop Lauds Policy to pick a Quarrel with him if he refused to obey the Kings Commands or expose him to the Indignation of a Parliament if he dared to License such Tantivee-Stuff and illegal and wicked Positions some called them Traiterous Positions he affirmed that the Prince who is the Head and makes his Court and Council it is his Duty to direct and make Laws Eccles 8.3 4. He doth whatsoever pleases him where the word of the the King is there is power and who may say unto him What dost thou And If Princes Command any thing which Subjects may not Perform because 't is against the Laws of God or of Nature or Impossible yet Subjects are bound to undergoe the Punishment without either resisting or railing or reviling and so to yield a Passive Obedience where they cannot exhibit an active one I know no other Case but one of these three wherein a Subject may excuse himself with Passive Obedience but in all other he is bound to Active Obedience sayes Sybthorp Tory. He had forgot the Laws of this Land which all Kings are bound and Sworn to obey for the municipal Laws are not immediately any of those three and Doctor Manwaring he fisht for Preferment with two Sermons to Drill in the Loan though against Law as the King confest in after Statutes as also the Ship-writs Condemn'd by the King 16 Car. 1.14 But those Court-Sermons did Mischief awhile though in Conclusion the Court-Parasites smarted for their sawcy rashness and falshood Manwaring asserting that the King is not bound to observe the Laws of the Realm concerning the Subjects Rights and Liberties Whigg This is just like the Popes Pardon and Absolving King Edward of and from the Obligation of his Coronation-Oath Vows and Promises Tory. Manwaring also asserted that those who refused to pay the Loan Offended against the Law of God Tant Did he find that in the Bible Tory. And that the Authority of Parliament is not necessary for the raising of Aids and Subsidies Whigg 'T is a wonder to me that the Parliament let him escape after this what sets a Kingdom in a flame but these Incendiaries that do not or will not know the Constitution of this Kingdom and Common-wealth An equal Bridle to curb Tyranny and Arbitrary Sway on the one hand and Anarchy and Confusion on the other Tory. Ay our Laws are good enough none better Whigg Then what Traytors and Villains are they that dare debauch the fundamental Constitutions and Laws Tory. It was the way to Preferment Whigg The way to the Gallowes was it not better a hundred thousand such Sycophants were Hang'd than a good King and his Laws Betray'd and the Kingdom Involv'd in blood through their sly Tantivee-leasings and Insinuations Tory. Bishop Laud was the Man and all in all with the King all Preferments in Church and State he annuated or He and Buckingham though they so mischeivously to the King and State countenanc't the Loan so contrary to the grants of the great Charter and the Subjects Liberties and Properties which the King was bound by Oath and Duty to Preserve and Observe and was ready to do it of his own Benignity and Goodness but those Court-Parasites ruin'd all at length and themselves too Popery and Arbitrary Sway are Twins alwayes coupled the Queen had great Influence upon the Favourites either to make or marre them and they knew it as well and the Jesuits had too much Influence over her what by fair means what by foul but the King was angry when he heard they made her for Penance walk bare-foot to Tyburn Whigg The Jesuits Ay they are pretty Creatures for Princes to be Slaves unto and to become their Vassals and Instruments they have got the two Reyns into their own hands that guide the silly World namely Hope and Fear whom the hopes of Heaven cannot allure to their purposes the
them can tell what or who is the Church but usually by the Church they mean themselves the Clergy that is the promoted and Dignifyed Clergy-men and how the Vilest and worst of Clergy-men came to be promoted by their Vileness and Villanies you have heard for no other Clergy-men could be found so to Debauch their Consciences the Laws of England and the Protestant Religion and these are the men Forsooth whose Spitle we must all lick up and be punish'd if we speak never so little against them Ten thousand times more than when by Curses and Oaths we Blaspheme the Holy Name of God Oh brave World and brave Holy Religion and bravely managed Tant You are warm upon us Whig Is this a time to be Meally-mouth'd To sit weeping and wailing and wringing of hand with Prayers and Tears only when Tant When what Speak out Whig I will not Catch-pole you do but ly at lurch to undo a man for speaking Truth if you can but by hook or Crook drill him in and bring him within the reach or swing of some Old Stretch'd Law to colour as well as vindicate safely the private Spleens and Revenge every body sees you and yet you think you walk invisible and now too having got Tory here to be a Fellow-witness with you Oh how you will Strain a word and your own Consciences To bring a man that Thwarts your Evil purpose to be Maul'd by Law especially when you get which is not difficult a Jury and for your Turns Tory. You speak feelingly Whigg Jeet on and mark the end on 't there is an over-ruling Providence and God of Justice the very Heathens apprehend it and the Wheel of Fortune comforted the Captive Prince that drew the Conqueror's Chariot the Wheels whereof turning round and the upmost side forthwith undermost and the undermost again uppermost comforted and cheer'd his Captivity with the certain incertainty inconstancy and vicissitude of things And therefore good Rampant Tory let not him that putteth on his Armour boast himself yet you think you have got the World in a string and since the days of Blessed Mary Popery Coleman says had never so fair and likely a Prospect Tant I am not for Popery Whigg No not for the Name I believe thy Religion is 1500 l per Annum call it by what Name any body pleases Tory. But did not you say Whigg that you would prove by Common-Law Statute-Law Reason and Equity that the Law determines how and when Parliaments shall sit or be Dissolv'd How long they shall sit and when they shall be called all which I understand lay no where but in the Hallow of the Kings-Breast His Will and Pleasure Whig No Acts of Justice as a King lyes so incertainly only as at the will and pleasure of the King so as not to be determined by Law though some Acts of Mercy and Pardon are purely Arbitrary to adorn the Throne For if that did all our other Laws are nothing worth but at the good pleasure of the King and His Ministers Arbitrarily For for all their Transgressions none can call Evil Ministers to Account but a Parliament at least none more properly And if they can stave off a Parliament at pleasure and Dissolve it at pleasure we hold all our other Liberties Charters and Properties at pleasure which they have often oppress'd and invaded as aforesaid and when a Parliament call'd them to a Reckoning and Account for their Roguery and worse than march them off Here the Remedy by this Rule is left to the mercy and good will and pleasure of the Disease when Evil Ministers Disease the Common-wealth and this Disease may not be inquired into by the only Physitians the Parliament For Alas the Judges know who gives them and continues to them their Places and Soft Seats Tory. You see as aforesaid in King Charles I. his Speeches his Declarations c. Still he inculcates and bids them remember that the Calling Adjourning Prorogueing Holding and Dissolving Parliaments are in his Power Whig I believe you mistake for the Houses usually if not always do Adjourn themselves but they are Prorogued and Called and Dissolved by the King so all Criminals or so suspected are Indicted by the King that is in the Kings Name but the Law directs it both how and wherefore Tory. So you would say the Law directs the formal part also of Calling and Dissolving of Parliaments to be by the King in His Name but the wherefore or cause of Calling and Dissolving Parliaments is limited and determined by the Law and the time of Intervals which the King cannot pass or dispute with Whig Yes surely or else the great foundation of our Laws Parliaments the banks that limit and bound the out-ragious swellings and overflowings of Arbitrary and unlimited dominion would be strangely deficient and lame in not providing first and especially for its own Preservation against Arbitrary Will and Pleasure Tant Nay I suppose you are a Learned and Stout Champion for the Laws and for the Laws of Parliament and much Skill'd in them Whig I pretend to no Skill therein nor to the Honour of it all I have to say or have said on this Subject is only as an Historian of Whiggism a bare summary Collection of what others have done and said as to these particulars in the Reign of King Charles I. to rub up your memory with my brief Notes not to tell you any thing you have not heard before but with little Cost and Charge give you the Marrow of greater and more Elaborate works at an easier rate and minute Expence both of Money and Time Tant Well said I like that very well for I have not much of either to spare but first say what the Common Law enjoynes as to the Holding or Dissolving Parliaments Whig Few know what the Common Law is Coke says it is founded in the Immutable Law and Light of Nature agreeable to the Law of God requiring Order Government Subjection and Protection containing Ancient usages warranted by Holy Scripture and because it is generally given to all King and People Poor and Rich Lords and Commons it is therefore called Common Now consider that never any King of England had any Prerogative but what the common-Common-Law or Statute-Law gives them nor any Liberty or Priviledge but by Law The Prerogative is a Royal Priviledge Privilegio quasi privatae Leges Priviledges are Private Laws which always yields to the Common-Law Common-weal and Common-Benefit The King has no Priviledge or Prerogative contrary to the Publick-weal Order Government and Protection of the People Apply this to the question in hand concerning Holding or Dissolving of Parliaments And therefore in the Mirror of Justice a Book so commended by the Lord Coke that he saith it contains the whole Frame of the Ancient Common-Laws of this Realm from the time of King Arthur till near the Conquest Citesout of it one Law Concerning Parliaments made Reg. R. Alfred Anno Dom. 880.
the Strangest Law in the World if it should give a Prerogative to destroy it self and so become felo de se it s own Executioner having so carefully fenc'd against Arbitrary sway in all Ages and so Industriously and zealously too have our Ancestors stood up for the same to the last drop of their Bloods as chusing rather to leave us no Lands Charters Priviledges and Fields rather than Akeldama's as one calls them Fields of Blood and such as we must like them be forc'd to Fight for their Defence and our own against Arbitrary Projects Whig There needs no Fighting for them if we make the good Old Laws the Arbitrator of the Good Old Cause For the Law alone gives the King his due and his Subjects their due but because men naturally encline to do what they list without controul wonder not if even the best of Kings surrounded with so many Parasites and pimping Sycophants have been tempted to rule and do as he list without Check-mate of Bishops and Knights and Lords in Parliament Tant Why Has Parliaments then been as Old a Constitution as Kings of England Whig Yes for ought can be known to the contrary The said Famous Old Book the said Mirrour of Justice shows that Parliaments were before a single King Ruled England namely during the Heptarchy when there were seven Kings rather than fail to rule England Tant I shall never have enow of Kings I do so love them Whig Ay but seven Kings were accounted more than enough and after the Heptarchy when the King of the West-Saxons namely Cornwall Devonshire Dor setshire Sommer setshire Wiltshire Hampshire and Barkshire had swallowed up all the rest Parliaments still were or Senates as long before this during the Reign of the Senate and Caesars of Rome here in England So also after Egbert when the Bishop of Winchester Ethelwolph his Eldest Son with much ado was perswaded to leave his Bishoprick and a Religious Life for a Kingdom after he had purchas'd a Pardon from the Pope for breaking his Religious Vow And yet he had much ado to keep his Crown upon his head for breaking but one poor Law for if he had not by death timely death cheated his Lords they had certainly Depos'd him for placing his Queen in a Chair of State which was then contrary to Law made ever since Queen Ethelburg by chance Poison'd her Husband King Birthrick by a Venemous Potion which she said at least she had prepared for another but being a Handsome Whore she fled into France 'till by frequent Adulteries she died Miserably and like a Rotten Whore and for her sake the West-Saxons ordained whence Note they were Law-makers in these days a Law that no Kings Wife should hereafter have the Title or Majesty of a Queen which Law as aforesaid King Ethelwolph being so bold as to dispense with and break the Lords would certainly have Depos'd him but that his Grave prevented them Tant Then belike it was not safe for Kings to break Laws in those days Whig Judge you and long after Stout King Edward I. told the Bishops plainly that he could not being but one Member of the Body though the Head undo what the whole Body had done and Enacted as is before remembred Tant You are full of your Old Storyes to maintain your Whiggism Whig I invent none I write nothing but what I have Authentick Histories and Records to Vouch and Attest the Truth And thus Parliaments continued in the short Reign of Ethelbald Successor to his Fathers Crown and Bed for to his Eternal shame he Married Judith his Fathers Widdow So also in the Reigns of Ethelbert Ethelred and Alfred the four Sons of Ethelwolph who Successively Reigned one after another which Alfred was as Learned as Valiant and first Founded the University of Oxford one of the Oldest Universities in the World Tant I thought Universities had been as Old as Christianity What could Christianity and the Ministry continue in the World nine hundred years in its greatest splendor without an University and an Academian Whig Yea so it seems without either Oxford-Scholar Bloxford-Schollar or Cantabrigian Alas alas Universities were at first the Pope's Invention so also were School-men School-Divinity and Canon-Laws with which he has so defac'd Christianity with his Painting Glazings Glossings Comments Arguments Syllogismes Fallacies Fripperies and Metaphysical-Fopperies that Schollars are forc'd to Fool away a great deal of time in Cracking these Insipid Shells and Outward Rindes that their Teeth are broke and worn out before they come to Taste true and Solid Learning or Christianity nay the Majority never come at the Kernel and Marrow of true Divinity and useful Learning during their whole Life not much unlike that Popish Doctor that had been nine years Doctor of Divinity before he saw a Bible Tant Doctor Subtilis I 'le warrant Tory. Prythee Parson do not thus Interrupt Mr. Whigg with your Impertinent Parenthesis Go on Whigg Whig To serve you Tory I will and will let you know that there were Parliaments to which Knights and Burgesses were Summon'd after the Heptarchy in the Reigns aforesaid and the Reigns of Alfred's Sons King Edward as Stout a man as his Father not so Book-Learn'd but more Successful through the help of his Sister Madam Elfled the Wife of Ethelred Earl of Mereia to whom when she had brought him one Daughter with Grievous Pains in her Travel she turn'd Souldier and Virago helping her Brother most Manfully against the Welsh and Danes and brought them all under her refusing the Nuptial Bed of her Husband saying It was a floolish pleasure that brought with it so Excessive Pains Tant Few of our women now a dayes are of her mind they 'l venture again and again Tory. This Parson is always Interrupting us with his Idle Notes Commentaries and Observations Proceed good Mr. Whigg there is some profit and understanding to be learn'd by you Parson hold your Tongue if it be possible for a Prating Circingle to leave his Impertinence in Company Whig This Old Fundamental frame continued in the Reigns of Athelstone Edgar Ethelred Canutus Harold William the Conqueror c. So that Parliaments are part of the Frame of the Common-Law which no Kings can defeat frustrate or make void nor did ever any attempt the same but it proved Fatal to him nay proved to be his ruine Witness all the Unhappy Reigns and Violent Deaths of English Kings that have broke loose and made Rapes and violent attempts upon the known Chast and Sacred Laws of England the common-Common-Law to King and People fram'd in the Law and Light of Nature Right Reason and Holy-Writ Secondly According to the said Law made in the Reign of King Alfred Parliaments are to Sit frequently Right and good Reason I do not say as often as you take Physick Spring and Fall at least but however so often as the Noxious Humours abound above the Boundaries Banks and Limits of the Law and
obligation of his Coronation Oath and Magna Charta Tant But did the Pope absolve him and let him loose and free from his Oath and the Laws Tory. Yes he did for the Pope was a Native of Burdeaux Born in King Edward's Domnions but yet he would not acquit him of his Oath and Obligation to his Subjects and his own Conscience 'till the King sent his Holiship all manner of Vessels belonging to a Chamber made of pure Gold and then the Pope untied the King from the Covenant made with his Subjects concerning their Charters Confirmed unto them by his last three Acts of Parliament Tant Has the Pope power to do these things Whigg Yes Fools think so and Knaves would perswade others to think so the King and the Pope got by it but the poor English Subjects paid for all Tant But did not the King pay part of the Reckoning Whigg No doubt on 't King Edward 1. made a shift with much Bickering to rub through and come to his Grave in Peace dying on his fair Death but his Son Edw. 2. that followed his Fathers steps when he could or durst had not the Wit or else not the Luck to manage the Feat so well poor Rehoboam for he was Deposed by the Parliament or rather was perswaded to Depose himself lest his Son also should be Excluded from the Crown for so they threatned and to make a King of another Race Thus he lost his Kingdom no Blow struck no Battel Fought done forcibly and yet without force violently and yet with Consent Tant Then surely he had first lost the Hearts of his People Whigg You may be assured of it for at first his Subjects refused to suffer him to be Crowned unless he would remove Gaveston from the Court and Kingdom which dampt King Edward's Spirit especially many of his great Friends being then at Court witnesses of his Disgrace as Charles of Valois the Queens Unkle and Brother to her Father Philip the Fair the French King the Dukes of Brittain and Brabant the Count of Luxemburg who was afterwards Emperour the Duke of Savoy the Dutchesses of Brabant and Artois with many other Princes and great Ladies so that the King solemnly Swore he would do what they desired in the next Parliament so they would be quiet now and thereupon the Coronation went on Tant Could not so many Forreign Princes and so powerful Encourage the King to repel with force his Subjects Insolence Whigg Insolence Oh Brave Tantivee What would have become of thee if thou hadst liv'd in these dayes to have an answer in Parliament for your Tantivee-principles so Discrepant from and Inconsistent with our English-frame Constitution and Fundamental Laws Tant Why were Parliaments so Malapert in those dayes Whigg Malapert Hey day what again in your Tantivee-strain you have got the Language of some late Addressers that take upon them to Judge the highest Court and Council of the Kingdom the Parliament Tant In your Opinion you mean the Highest Council Whigg Dare you say to the contrary whatever you think Tant I durst if I were sure never to live to see another Parliament Whigg Ay thou art a good one but the Parliament as soon as they met drew Articles of their Grievances which though seeming Harsh to the King yet for avoiding further Inconvenience he yielded unto them Tant Inconvenience What Inconvenience they were Subjects and Christians in those dayes and had no weapons but prayers and tears which can bring no great Inconvenience if a man resolve to be hard-hearted Whig No thou I believe art Prayer-proof but King Edward 2. remembred well that in his stout Fathers time the Parliament met at London Octob. 10. Non tamen nudi not naked and unarm'd but immò cum quingentis equis armatis multitudine magnâ peditum Electorum with five hundred Horse and a vast number of choice Foot Induxerunt etiam cives Londoniarum ut pro recuperandis libertatibus secum starent The Citizens of London were brought to stand up with them for the recovery of their Charters and Liberties Comitibus itaque Baronibus pariter conglobatis confederatis necnon majoritate populi eis inclinante several Lords and Barons confederating and leaguing solemnly together with the majority of the common-people Inclining to their side Tant What against the King Whig No for the Ling against evil Councellors that seduc'd the King against his Oath his Conscience Religion and Law And the Historian Hen. Knighton gives the reason of this general Confederacy quia communem profectum utilitatem amplectebatur communes diligebant eos fortiter because the Conlederates or Covenanters stood for the common benefit and common-weal and the Laws therefore the People lov'd them mightily and voluntarily accompanyed their Parliament-men to London with horse and Arms at their own charge Nay 't is a wonder that any man that had an English heart in his Belly could be a fawning Spaniel-like Tantivee some French Bastard sure Tant But what said the King to his armed Parliamentarians Whig Said he did instead of saying any thing his duty and confirmed their Charters and Liberties so often confirmed and so often wickedly and illegally broken and encroach't upon but King Edward 1. was loath to confirm their Charters except with this clause salvo Jure Coronae nostrae saving the Rights of our Crown But the People would not by any means admit that saving and Exception so that the King confirm'd them as formerly as K. Charles 1. after a long Tugg in the House of Lords consented to the Petition of Right without the saving or leaving intire that Sovereign power wherewith c. Whereupon sayes Mr. Noy To adde a saving is not safe And sayes Mr. Alford Let us look into the Records and see what they are what is Sovereign power Bodin saith That is free from any condition by this we shall acknowledge a Regal as well as a Legal Power let us give that to the King that the Law gives him and no more Tory. There spoke a Whigg Whigg True so Mr. Pym added I know how to adde Sovereign to his Person but not to his Power Also We cannot leave to him a sovereign power Also We never were possessed of it Tory. Our King God bless him does not pretend to absolute and arbitrary Power Whig Sovereign power cannot be invested in any thing that is not Omnipotent And the great Oracle of the Law added that the saving or leaving intire the sovereign Power c. will overthrow all our Petition of Right It trenches to all the Parts of it It flyes at Loans and at the Oath and at Imprisonment and Billeting of Souldiers This turns all about again I know that Prerogative is part of the Law but Sovereign Power is no Parliamentary word In my opinion it weakens Magna Charta and all our Statutes for they are absolute without any saving of Sovereign Power take we heed what we yield unto
Magna Charta is such a fellow that he will have no Soveraign I wonder this Soveraign was not in Magna Charta or the confirmations of it If we grant this by Implication we give a Soveraign power above all these Laws mind that for all Power and Liberties and Prerogatives are bounded and limited by the Laws and though they be great as the Sea yet have their bounds the Law saying Hitherto shalt thou go and no further and here shall thy proud Waves be stay'd no Prerogative is infinite in England nor any power omnipotent except that of God alone the Law limits and bounds us all from the greatest to the least And therefore Sir Eward Cook goes on telling the House That Power in Law is taken for a power with force The Sheriff shall take the power of the County what it means here God only knows It is repugnant to our Petition that is the King shall not Billet Souldiers raise Money by Privy Seals Loans Imprison without cause in Law shewn c. saving by his Soveraign Power our Petition is a Petition of Right grounded on Acts of Parliament Our Predecessors would never endure a Salvo Jure suo no more than the Kings of Old could endure for the Church Salvo Honore Dei Ecclesiae we must not admit of it and to qualifie it is impossible Let us hold our Priviledges according to the Law that Power that is above this it is not sit for the King and People to have it disputed further Tant The Oath of Allegiance binds us all to maintain the Kings Prerogative Whigg No doubt on 't and let it be for ever Sacred let no Prophane Hand or Tongue touch it no nor so much as think upon it Irreverently both it and the Peoples Liberties as aforesaid are vast and great but they are not Infinite they have their known Bounds and ancient Land-marks and Cursed is that evil Councellor that makes such a Stir to Encroach or Remove them extend them or Stretch them such deserve to Stretch for it For 't is certain that there is no Soveraign Power or Prerogative wherewith any King of England hath been intrusted either by God or Man but what is for Edification not for Destruction for the Weal of his People and for their Protection Safety and Happiness Tant Our Gracious Soveraign in his late Declarations pretends to no other Prerogative but what is legal Whigg All the better for him and us his Royal Father of Gracious Memory seem'd to Disgust his Lords as aforesaid when he told them that he meant not to shew the Power of a King by diminishing their Priviledges Tory. He wanted not bad Instillers sometimes as he Confest afterwards Whigg The Summer shall want Flies e're the Crown want Sycophants swarming about it yet like Musketoes too they usually Burn their Wings in the Flame to this sort some ascribed those words in the Kings Speech I owe the account of my Actions to God alone c. But as for Tunnage and Poundage it is a thing I cannot want Tant No why should he Whigg The matter of taking it was not so much the question as the manner of taking it namely taking it before and without the gift thereof to the King by them that had the only power to dispose thereof Tant Then there was hard Measure to some as well as hard Imprisonment if the Parliament had the only power to give Tunnage and Poundage for the Kings Commission to the Customers begins thus C. R. WHereas the Lords of the Council taking into Consideration our Revenue and finding that Tunnage and Poundage is a principal Revenue of our Crown and has been continued for these many Years have therefore Order'd all those Duties of Subsidie Custom and Import as they were in the Twenty first of King James and as they shall be appointed by Us under our Seal to be Levyed Know ye that we by the Advice of our Lords Declare our Will that all those Duties be Levyed and Collected as they were in the time of our Father and in such manner as we shall appoint and if any Person refuse to Pay then our Will is that the Lord Treasurer shall Commit to Prison such so Refusing 'till they Conform themselves And we give full Power to all our Officers from time to time to give Assistance to the Farmers of the same as fully as when they were Collected by Authority of Parliament Whigg This occasion'd Debates that ended in the Dissolution of that Parliament after which the King call'd no more of eleven long Years and Straits and Necessities were urgent and remediless without a Parliament and woful work in Conclusion Tant Why did the Parliament meddle with the Customers Whigg Because they collected Customs in Tunnage and Poundage without Authority of Parliament Tant King James had them before they were given to him in Parliament Whigg King James had them by Authority of Parliament from the day before his first Parliament begun but the Statute gave him Power so to do but not from the first day of his coming to the Crown for he came to the Crown March 24. 1602. His first Parliament began at Westminster March 19. 1603. and took many things into Consideration and Enacted them before they took into consideration Tunnage and Poundage but 1 Jac. cap. 33. the Commons by the Advice and consent of the Lords gave the King the Subsidy of Tunnage and Poundage at a very low rate namely but three Shillings a Tun for Wine and so proportionably for quantities greater or lesser than a Tun but this expir'd with the Kings Life his only Son and Successor took it without Authority of Parliament as his Father took it by Authority of Parliament to the great Disgust of his Parliament who did at length grant him Tunnage and Poundage upon certain Trusts and Confidences from the 9th of August 1641. for about three months 16 Car. 1.22 Tant What no longer Whigg Not at one loose then by 16 Car. 1.25 they trusted the King with the Customs from November 30. 1641. to February 1. namely for two Months longer Then the other Hitch for five Months namely from February 1. 1641. until July 2. 1642. Then they continued it for some little time by 16 Car. 1. c. 29. cap. 31. cap. 36. Tant But did the Free Free-Parliament in 12 Car. 2.4 give it to our gracious King for no longer time Whigg Yes yes for his Life but upon trust too so sayes the Act namely The Commons Assembled in Parliament reposing Trust and Confidence in your Majesty in and for the Guarding and defending of the Seas against all Persons intending or that shall intend the Disturbance of your said Commons in the Intercourse of Trade and the Invading of this Realm c. Tant Then it was granted for these Uses and Considerations belike and should be made Use of for no other end you would say Whigg Yea I do say so as the said Statute sayes Tant
from Trent Northwards and also against his Deputy Justice in Oyer from Trent northwards the right Honourable Viscount Dunbar Deputy Lieutenant in the East riding of York-shire his Wife and Mother and the greatest part of his Family being Popish Recusants also against William Lord Eure a convict Popish Recusant and in Commission for the Sewers Henry Lord Abergavenny John Lord Tenham Henry Lord Morley John Lord Mordant John Lord St. John of Basing Captain of Lidley Castle in Com. Southampton Em. Lord Scroop Lord President of his Majesties Council in the North Lord Lieutenant of the County and City of York and of Kingston upon Hull Anthony Viscount Mountague in Commission of the Sewers Sir William Wray Knight Deputy Lieutenant Collonel to a Regiment his Wife a Recusant Sir Edward Musgrave Sir Thomas Lampley Justices of Peace and quorum Sir Thomas Savage Deputy Lieutenant and Justice of the Peace his Wife and Children Recusants Sir Richard Egerton a Non-communicant Thomas Savage Esquire a Deputy Lieutenant a Recusant and his Wife Indicted and Presented William Whitmore Sir Hugh Beeston Sir William Massy Sir William Courtnâ—y Knight Vice-warden of the Stannery and Deputy Lieutenant a Popish Recusant Sir Thomas Ridley Sir Ralph Conyers James Lawson Esquire Sir John Shelley Knight and Baronet a Popish Recusant William Scot Esquire a Recusant John Finch Esquire not convicted but comes not to Church Sir William Mullineux Deputy Lieutenant and Justice of the Peace his Wife a Recusant Sir Richard Houghton Knight Deputy Lieutenant Sir William Norris Captain of the General Forces and Justice of Peace a Recusant Sir Gilbert Ireland Justice of Peace a Recusant James Anderton Esquire Justice of Peace and one of his Majesties Receivers Edward Rigby Esquire Clerk of the Crown Justice of Peace himself a good Communicant but his Wife and Daughter Popish Recusants Edward E Robert Warren Clerk a Justice of the Peace justly suspected for five Reasons there mentioned Sir Henry Compton Knight Deputy Lieutenant Justice of the Peace and Commissioner for the Sewers Sir John Shelly Knight and Baronet himself and his Lady Recusants Sir John Gage a Popish Recusant with a vast number more of Justices of Peace and Commissioners of Sewers either Papists or justly suspected Wherefore they humbly beseech your Majesty not to suffer your loving Subjects to continue any longer discouraged by the apparent sence of that Increase both in number and power which by the Favour and Countenance of such like ill affected Governours accreweth to the Popish Party but that according to your own Wisdom Goodness and Piety whereof they rest assured you will be graciously pleased to Command that Answer of your Majesties to be effectually observed and the Parties above named and all such others to be put out of such Commissions and Places of Authority wherein they now are in your Majesties Realm of England Contrary to the Acts and Laws of State in that behalf Tant Those last words were Pungent Tory. Not prevalent surely for the Parliament was soon after Dissolved and the House of Commons having Intimation of their intended Dissolution made what hast they could to perfect a Remonstrance or Declaration against the Duke of Buckingham and concerning Tunnage and Poundage taken by the King since his Fathers death without consent in Parliament and which were never payable they say in their Remonstrance to any of his Majesties Ancestors but only by a special Act of Parliament and ought not to be levyed without such an Act. Tant And did the King go on Collecting and taking Tunnage and Poundage notwithstanding Tory. Yes he said he could not want it and sent them a former Message that if He had not a timely supply He would betake himself to New Councils Tant New Councils what were they Tory. The Commons in their said Remonstrance often with thoughtful Hearts remember the words New-Councils repeating and Repeating them as if they were somewhat against the old Parliamentary Councils and course of this Kingdom and they Order'd every Member of the House to have a Copy of the said Remonstrance for they had not time to Present it to his Gracious Majesty but were Dissolv'd though the Lords also prepared a Petition to stay the Kings purpose in Dissolving the Parliament sending Viscount Mandevil Earl of Manchester Lord President of his Majesties Council the Earls of Pembrook Carlisle and Holland to entreat his Majesty to give Audience to the whole House of Peers But the King returned Answer that his Resolution was to hear no motion for that purpose but He would Dissolve the Parliament and he was then as good as his Word for he immediately Dissolved them by Commission under the great Seal Dated at Westminster June 15.2 R. R. Car. 1. 1626. To that purpose And withall Publishes a Declaration in Print concerning the Grounds and Causes which moved his Majesty to Dissolve this as also the former Parliament Dated June 13. 2 Car. 1. two dayes before the Date of the Commission Tant It was the readyer against the time of using it Coleman was as provident Tory. Right And also a Proclamation was published against the said Remonstrance of the Commons commanding all Persons of what Quality soever who have or shall have hereafter any Copyes or Notes of the said Remonstrance forthwith to Burn the same that the Memory thereof might be utterly abolished upon Pain of his Majesties Indignation and high Displeasure Tant Then the Tide did run very high Tory. The King also Published another Proclamation against Preaching or Disputing the Arminian Controversies Pro or Con but the effects of that Proclamation how equally soever intended became the stopping of the Puritan's Mouths and an uncontroul'd Liberty to the Tongues and Pens of the thriving Divinity-men the rising side Mountagues Party And though the Parliament was Dissolv'd so that the Duke of Buckingham for that nearly-reflecting Article the last against him which the King in Honour and by the Bonds of natural Affection and Piety to the Memory of his Deceased Father thought himself obliged to Call him to a publick account for so Daring an Insolence in applying a Plaister to the Kings breast against his Will and without the Advice and contrary to the Opinion of the Sworn Physitians of King James who attributed the Cause of his trouble unto the said Plaâ—â—â—â—â— and a Drink that Buckingham gave him as was Alledged in the Thirteenth Article of the Dukes Impeachment and the said Drink twice given to the King by Buckingham's own Hands and a third time refused by the King who felt great Impairment of his Life and Health complaining of the Drink that the Duke gave him His Physitians telling him to Please him and Comfort him that His second Impairment was from cold taken or some other ordinary Cause No no said his Majesty It is that which I had from Buckingham as more at large much aggravated and insisted upon by Mr. Wandesford who managed the Thirteenth Article of the Impeachment against Buckingham Tant But what
said the Duke in his own Justification and Defence in the Star-Chamber Tory. He denyed it and examined divers Witnesses about the matter Tant And what then Tory. Nothing more the Cause never came to Judicial Hearing in that Court Tant Then let us hear no more of it I am sick of it my self I never heard so much before Go on Tory. After the Parliament was Dissolv'd and things well husht the Privy Council Order'd all Customs to be paid and the Refusers Punisht by Fines Imprisonment this was deem'd one New-council and Loans another Tant Loans prythee Tory what were they Tory. The King sent to the Rich a Letter beginning Trusty and Well-beloved c. under the Privy Seal requiring him or them to send him within twelve dayes so much Money as for Example in the West-riding in York-shire to Sir Thomas Wentworth 20 l Sir Francis Fuljam 20 l Sir Edward Osburn 30 l Godfrey Copley Esquire 15 l promising in the Name of the Kings Majesty his Heirs and Successors to repay the Money so lent Tant Ay when le ts hear that Tory. Within eighteen Months Tant And was the Money Repayed Tory. Pish that 's a silly question then of the City of London the King bid them lend him a hundred thousand pound Tant Well said a few such Summs from Towns or Cities would do the business but did they lend the Money Tory. No the City desir'd to be excused Tant And what then Tory. Then the Privy-Councel required them all excuses set apart to return a Direct and speedy Answer to his Gracious Majesty or in default thereof that his Majesty may frame his Councils as appertaineth to a King in such extream and Important occasions Tant And were they not afraid and apprehensive of the Innuendo Tory. The Commands rested not here for they also commanded the City to Equippe twenty of their best Ships in the River with all manner of Tackle Sea-stores and Ammunition men and Victuals for three Months Tant And did they do it Tory. They grumbled at it saying it was without President as did also the Deputy-Lieutenants and Justices of Peace at Dorset having received the Kings Commands for setting forth Ships from Pool Weymouth and Lime but the Council checkt them for daring to dispute Orders instead of obeying them and whereas they mention presidents they might know that the presidents of former times were Obedience not Direction Whigg It would puzzle a good Historian to find presidents of Obedience in England to Arbitrary-sway and Orders of Privy-Council for Impositions without Law to back them Tory. How Did not stout King Edward 1. Command Roger Bigot Earl of Norfolk and Lord Marshal of England and several other Lords to go to the Wars in Gascoygne in France which they refusing except the King himself went also in Person But the King threatned then to take away their Lands and their Lives saying to the Lord Marshal and Swearing By God Sir Earl you shall either Go or Hang. Whigg Ay but the Earl answered the King at the same moment I Swear by the same Oath I will neither Go nor Hang and so without leave went out of the Room and departed and shortly after he and Humphrey Bohun Earl of Hereford and other Lords and Noble-men Assembled and other their Friends to the number of thirty Bannerets one thousand five hundred men at Arms well appointed and stood upon their Guard but the King Dissembled his Resentments at that time being about to go to Flanders where he spent much Money and for recruit Summons a Parliament to meet at York promising from thenceforth never to charge his Subjects otherwise than by their Consents in Parliament and also to Pardon all such as had denyed to attend him in this Journey Tant And did they trust the Kings word Tory. Yes but he broke it and all his other Oaths and Confirmations of the Peoples Charters made in Parliament two Years after having obtained and bought a Pardon for so doing as aforesaid of his Holiness nay he begun to play his Arbitrary Pranks long before that for in 8 Edw. 1. he sent out his Writ of Quo Warranto a fine Engine to get Money to examine by what Title men held their Lands which upon flaws found in their Charters and pryed into by the Lawyers brought him in much Money 'till John Earl of Warren stopt the Current and stem'd the Tyde for calling upon him to show his Title He drew out an old rusty Sword and said He held his Land by that and by that would hold it to Death and having many Backers it made the King desist from his Project Tant An old rusty Sword dost say that was more than the old Christian Weapons Prayers and Tears Tory. And stopt the Kings Tyranny and lawless Usurpations more than a thousand Petitions Prayers and Tears Tant Still I say Subjects Christian Subjects should use no Weapons but Prayers and Tears Whigg What not against Robbers Thieves and Murderers Tant Not against Magistrates that Rob by Law Whigg Thou talk'st like an Asse every day more than other Rob by Law a Contradiction in terminis if there be Law for it it is not Robery Theft nor Murder and if it be against Law or without Law all violent taking of mens Goods one Subject from another is Theft and Robbery except the Law enjoyn it and may lawfully be Resisted without all doubt in like manner and with such Weapons as the Onset or Assault is made Tant What in an Officer a Commission-Officer Whigg No man can be Authoriz'd to do an ill thing or an illegal thing by any mans Commission much less by the Kings Commission or the Broad-Seal for the King can do no wrong if it be wrong it stands for nothing it is not the Kings act nor the Kings Commission but Surreptitious and punishable Tant And who shall Judge of its Legality or the legality of the Resistance Whigg The Judges and the Law and the Juries Tant Nay then we are well enough yet Whigg If you be well keep you so whil'st you are well but remember Belknap Tresilian c. many Judges have been Hang'd right right and good Reason for corrupt and false Judgment there are they that shall judge the Judges Tant Ay but when at the day of Judgment Whigg Yes yes no more on 't but this Doctrine of resisting with other Weapons than Prayers and Tears Force with Force Violence with Violence in our own just Defence seems so strange to the new Tantivee-men that herein join with the old Error of the Anabaptists condemned in the 37 Article of the Church of England as also the Family of Love who Condemned all Wars as did the Manichees nay the learned Ludovicus Vives saith Arma Christianum Virum tractare nescio an fas sit I know not whether or no it be lawful for a Christian to Fight at all or go to the Wars and wear Weapons Lactantius also was against all Killing right and
fear of Hell and Purgatory does affright Tant Brave doings In Athens Themistocles was Governour and Rul'd the City his Wife rul'd him and her Son rul'd her where then were lodg'd the Reyns of Government Tory. What 's that to us here in England good Impertinent Whigg Do not interrupt us you Parson with your Nonsensical Prate out of old Notes which you read devoutly out of Sybthorp Manwaring and Mountague do not mistake your self you think the People of Athens had a brave time on 't luscious doings if you had liv'd there you would have known where and to whom you would make your special Addresses and close Applications Tory. Archbishop Abbot was quite out of play for refusing to License that doughty Sermon to which he made many rational exceptions as namely in Page 2. to these words And whereas the Prince pleads not the power of Prerogative and in page 8. The Kings Duty is first to direct and make Laws and page 10. If nothing may excuse from active Obedience but what is against the Law of God or of Nature or Impossible How does this agree with Page 5. That all Subjects are bound to all their Princes according to the Laws and Customs of the Kingdom wherein they live he might have honestly added and no otherwise and Page 12. yea all antiquity to be absolutely for absolute Obedience to Princes in all Civil and Temporal things Tant Hey day this is like Pope Boniface to Philip the fair of France Sciat te in Temporalibus Spiritualibus nobis subjacere Whigg They do not say in Spiritual things they would have their Prince absolute over all but themselves but is that Position agreeable to the great Charter and many more Acts of Parliament in Edw. 1. and Edw. 3. That the Subjects shall not be grieved to sustain any Charge or Aid but by the Common Assent and that in Parliament and the Petition of Right at large Confirms the same by the Repetition of many more Statutes to that purpose Tory. Enough Enough of this Tant What Opinion had Archbishop Abbot of Dr. Laud Tory. He soon found him and said his Life in Oxford was to pick quarrels in the Lectures of the Publick Readers and to give notice of them to the Bishop of Durham that he might fill the Ears of King James with Discontents against the honest men that took Pains in their Places and settled the truth which he called Puritanisme in their Auditors It was an Observation what a sweet man this was like to be that the first observable Act that he did was the Marrying the Earl of D. to the Lady R when it was notorious to the World that she had another Husband King James did for many years take this so ill that he would never hear of any great Preferment of him The Bishop of Lincoln Doctor Williams got him at length advanc't to the Bishoprick of St. Davids which he had not long enjoy'd before he began to undermine his Benefactor Tant That Ingratitude is inexcusable Tory. He continued his Rancour against him to his utmost to the very last Whigg Ay Archbishop Abbot that had woful cause to know him gave this Character of Land that such was his aspiring nature That he would underwork any man in the World so that he might gain by it Tory. The little man had a high towring Spirit which made the Kings Jester Archee who would needs say Grace before the King when little Bishop Laud was present in these words Great Praise be given to God and little Laud to the Devil Whigg The worst Crime that was laid to his Charge was the Countenancing Arbitrary and illegal Taxes recommended by Sybthorp and Manwaring and abetting these Sycophants which some call Crimen lesae majestatis Legis Regis There cannot be a greater Treason than an endeavour to rob the King of his Goodness Truth Conscience Trust and fidelity to his People nor a readier Road to Ruine The Kings Prerogative is the guard of the Subjects Liberties and Peace he has no Prerogative but what the Law gives him much less any Prerogative against Law Equity Reason Conscience and Justice though Sycophants for vile ends would so have stretch't it They wore the old Text thredbare Give unto Caesar the things that are Caesars in those Tantivee-dayes Tant Why so Whigg If you will not be Angry Parson I 'le tell you a Story a true one of my own certain knowledge and remembrance that will for ever Spoyl hereafter all your Tantivee-Sermons on that Text. Tant Nay if it be such a spoyl-Sermon-story keep it to your self for I have four Sermons upon that Text ready writ and they will last me with Repetitions you know and eeking out two whole Months Tory. Prythee Whigg let 's hear your story however let the Parson storm as he pleases or be disappointed Whigg Before one of the wisest Kings that ever England had King James did one D. Harsnet Preach a Tantivee-Sermon on that Text Give unto Caesar but his Sermon poor man instead of getting thanks for the same had the Hap that afterwards befell Manwarings Sermon it happened to be Burnt by the common Hangman Tant Hard Hap what was the matter Whigg Onely for asserting as thou hast done twenty times That all mens Goods and Moneys are Caesars for which the Parliament though the Sermon was Preached in the Kings Chappel at Whitehall call'd my Gentleman coram nobis taking great offence thereat Tant What was that Doctor Harsnet Whigg He was afterwards made Bishop of Chichester and then Bishop of Norwich just as Mr. Mountague leapt and perhaps upon the same rise and advantage of the ground Tantiviisme and for the same Covetous reason too because the Norwich Bishoprick is the richer and then leapt to Yorks Archbishoprick Tory. But King James disown'd the Doctor in that affair and did not own him therein Whigg Yes yes I told you he was a wise King and used to say that he was a Tyrant that did not rule according to Laws and calmed the business moderating thus and saying that the Bishop onely failed in this When he said the Goods were Caesars he did not add they were his according to the Laws and Customs of the Country wherein they did live Tory. I do not deny but the Bishops had great Sway and influence over affairs both in Church and State if the Lord Faukland's Speech in Parliament to that purpose was well Calculated for those times Tant I have heard much Discourse of the Speech of that Lord so fam'd for his Learning and Loyalty as well as Nobility but I could never get a sight of it Whigg It was call'd the true Picture of those times pourtraying that modern Episcopacy to the life Anno 1640. and here it is Tant Read it Whigg The whole would be tedious I 'le read part of it thus he begins MAster Speaker he is a great stranger in Israel who knows not that this Kingdom hath long laboured under many
and great Oppressions both in Religion and Liberty and his acquaintance here is not great or his ingenuity less who doth not both know and acknowledge that a great if not a principal cause of both these have been some Bishops and their adherents Master Speaker a little search will serve to find them to have been the Destruction of Unity under pretence of Uniformity to have brought in Superstition and Scandal under the titles of Reverence and Decency to have defil'd our Church by adorning our Churches to have slackned the strictness of that Union which was formerly between us and those of our Religion beyond the Sea an action as unpolitick as ungodly Master Speaker we shall find them to have Tith'd Mint and Anise and have left undone the weightier works of the Law to have been less eager upon those who damn our Church than upon those who upon weak Conscience and perhaps as weak reasons the dislike of some commanded Garment or some uncommanded posture onely abstained from it Nay it hath been more dangerous for men to go to some neighbours Parish when they had no Sermon in their own than to be obstinate and perpetual Recusants while Masses have been said in security a Conventicle hath been a crime and which is yet more the conforming to Ceremonies hath been more exacted than the conforming to Christianity and whilest men for Scruples have been undone for attempts upon Sodomy they have onely been admonished Master Speaker we shall find them to have been like the Hen in Aesop which laying every day an Egg upon such a proportion of Barly her Mistress increasing her proportion in hope she would encrease her eggs she grew so sat upon that addition that she never laid more so though at first their Preaching was the occasion of their preferment they after made their Preferment the occasion of their not Preaching Master Speaker we shall find them to have resembled another Fable the Dog in the manger to have neither Preached themselves nor employ'd those that should nor suffered those that would to have brought in Catechising only to thrust out Preaching cryed down Lectures by the name of Factions either because their Industry in that Duty appeared a reproof to their neglect of it not unlike to that we read of him who in Nero's time and Tacitus his story was accused because by his Vertue he did appear Exprobrare vitia Principis or with intention to have brought in darkness that they might the easier sowe their tares while it was night and by that Introduction of Ignorance introduce the better that Religion which accompts it the Mother of devotion Master Speaker in this they have abused his Majesty as well as his people for when they had with great wisdom since usually the Children of darkness are wiser in their generation than the Children of light I may guess not without some eye upon the most politick action of the most politick Church silenced on both parts those Opinions which have often tormented the Church and have and will alway trouble the Schools they made use of this declaration to tye up one side and let the other loose whereas they ought either in discretion to have been equally restrained or in justice to have been equally tolerated And it is observable that that party to which they gave this License was that whose Doctrine though it were not contrary to Law was contrary to Custom and for a long while in this Kingdom was no oftner Preached than recanted The truth is Master Speaker that as some ill Ministers in our State first took away our Money from us and after endeavoured to make our Money not worth the taking by turning it into Brass by a kind of Antiphilosophers-stone so these men used us in the point of Preaching first depressing it to their power and next labouring to make it such as the harm had not been much if it had been depressed the most frequent Subjects even in the most sacred Auditories being the Jus divinum of Bishops and Tithes the Sacredness of the Clergy the Sacriledge of Impropriations the demolishing of Puritanism and propriety the building of the Prerogative at Pauls the introduction of such Doctrines as admitting them true the truth would not recompense the scandal or of such as were so far false that as Sir Thomas Moore says of the Casuists their business was not to keep men from sinning but to inform them Quà m propè ad peccatum sine peccato liceat accedere so it seemed their work was to try how much of a Papist might be brought in without Popery and to destroy as much as they could of the Gospel without bringing themselves into danger of being destroyed by the Law Master Speaker to go yet further some of them have so industriously laboured to deduce themselves from Rome that they have given great suspition that in gratitude they desire to return thither or at least to meet it half way Some have evidently labour'd to bring in an English though not a Roman Popery I mean not only the outside and dress of it but equally absolute a blind dependance of the People upon the Clergy and of the Clergy upon themselves and have opposed the Papacy beyond the Sea that they might settle one beyond the water Nay common Fame is more than ordinary false if none of them have found a way to reconcile the Opinions of Rome to the Preferments of England and be so absolutely directly and cordially Papists that it is all that fifteen hundred pounds a year can do to keep them from confessing it Master Speaker I come now to speak of our Liberties and considering the great Interest these men have had in our common Master and considering how great a good to us they might have made that Interest in him if they would have used it to have informed him of our general Sufferings and considering how little of their freedom of Speech at Whitehall might have saved us a great deal of the use we have now of it in the Parliament-house their not doing this alone were occasion enough for us to accuse them as the betrayers though not as the destroyers of our Rights and Liberties Though I confess if they had been onely silent in this particular I had been silent too But alas they whose Ancestors in the darkest times excommunicated the breakers of Magna Charta did now by themselves and their adherents both write preach plot and act against it by encouraging Doctor Beal by preferring Doctor Mannering appearing forward for Monopolies and Ship-money and if any were slow and backward to comply blasting both them and their Preferment with utmost expression of their hatred the title of Puritans Master Speaker we shall find some of them to have labour'd to exclude both all persons and all causes of the Clergy from the ordinary Jurisdiction of the temporal Magistrate and by hindring prohibitions first by apparent power against the Judges and after by secret agreements with
they think if it were overheard all hopes of further Preferment is almost defunct as if Roman was a needless Epithite and as if none were Catholicks in the World but only that barbarous and bloody Sect because like the Devil in the Possessed their Name is Legion for that they are many and numerous more is the pity yet blessed be God if you go to tell Noses in Europe or all the World over Protestants are the major part as well as the better part though you throw to the Papists side all our Tantivees into the bargain Come come Rome loses ground every day let the Pope the Jesuits and the Devil do what they can in Combination I told you they have got but one Main-pillar and that is crazy and rotten almost as great a blunder as they keep Tant Why do you think we shall not carry all before us Whigg Yes you will some of you at least be advanc't as high as Haman if the learned Mr. Selden Prophecyed true for when Doctor Worral Chaplain to the Bishop of London Licensed Sybthorp's said Sermon he scratch't his Name out and suffered not so much as any Sign of the Letters of his Name to remain on the Paper by advice of Mr. Selden to whose better Judgment and for further advice he sent Sybthorp's Pamphlet call'd a Sermon after he had Licens'd it but Mr. Selden said to him What have you done you have allowed a strange Book yonder which if it be true there is no Meum or Tuum no man in England hath any thing of his own if ever the Tyde turn as it did with a Vengeance to the Toryes and Tantivees you will be Hang'd for Publishing such a Book But what the Chaplain upon second thoughts would not do his Master the Bishop of London did Licensing the same with his own hand the good man being not willing that any thing should stick with him that came recommended from the Court. Tant From the Court or Queen what skills it I commend him the same Bishop also Licensed a Book called The Seven Sacraments with all its Errors made by Doctor Cosens Bishop Laud's Confident and yet neither he nor any of them did ever declare themselves to be Papists openly Whigg No no I know it they were the wiser neither did Mountague whom they all upheld and advanc'd and yet he made the Church of England a Schismatick if the Church of Rome be a true Church and alwayes kept the Faith as Mountague asserts and the said Bishops did abett him and Preferr'd him and so did the D. of Buckingham magnifying him as a well Deserving man and when the King Charles 1. was Marryed to his Queen a Daughter of France Letters were sent to the High Commission-Court and other Courts to suspend and take off all Execution of the Laws against Papists then by Proclamation upon the Parliaments Remonstrance a quite contrary Command was published under the broad Seal of England and after the Parliament was Dissolved then all the Popish-Priests fourteen or fifteen at a time are set at Liberty again such great variation of the Compass was found in the same Climat and Longitude sometimes the Laws being put in Execution at a force-put and then again slackning the Reins and following natural inclination Tant What Opinion had Archbishop Abbot of those times and those Transactions Whigg When the allowance of Sybthorp's Pamphlet was put upon him he said He had some reason out of the grounds of that Sermon that the Duke had a Purpose to turn upside down the Laws and the whole Fundamental Courses and Liberties of the Subject and to leave us not under the Statutes and Customs which our Progenitors enjoyed but to the pleasure of Princes Tant That is brave it is al-a-mode d' France but when the Duke was Stabb'd did the same Arbitrary Courses go on Whigg Yes Loans and Monopolies Privy Seals and such Projects were continued and some say the Earl of Strafford begun to assess Souldiers upon the People that would not pay his Arbitrary demands in Ireland chiefly to make way the better for the like Project other-where yet he was a wise man and a right Englishman once 'till he became infected afterwards with Ambition and Court the fate and occasion of the Ruine of Bishop Laud as well as of him and of one more of more worth than both of them Besides Said the Archbishop Abbot Now it came in my heart that I was present at the Kings Coronation where many things on the Princes part were solemnly Promised which being observed would keep all in order and the King should have a loving and gracious People and the Commons a kind and gracious King But I am loth to plunge my self over head and ears in these difficulties the Loans c. that I can neither live with quietness of Conscience nor depart out of the World with good Fame and Estimation And perhaps my Soveraign if he looked well into this Paradox would of all the World hate me because one of my Profession Age and Calling would deceive him and with base Flattery swerve from the Truth Tant Then you think that the Kings Minions Buckingham Laud and Strafford were the Kings greatest Enemies and that of all the World he had most Cause to hate them Whigg No doubt on 't if their Councels came out of their own Heads or was not rather Instill'd and put into their Heads by I know who Tory. Oh! I apprehend you Whigg But whether it be the Devil or man that possesseth men with evil the Sinners that received the Temptation the Baits of Ambition and Avarice as they are Instruments of wonderful Mischief and Blood ought to pay dear for their Sycophantry Tant Pay dear do you say Strafford and Laud lost their Heads on Tower-hill and Buckingham was Stabb'd at Portsmouth by Felton you said But you did not tell me what mov'd him to this bloody Fact Whigg Felton neither fled for it nor denyed the Deed but said he Killed him for the Cause of God and his Countrey and when it was replyed that the Surgeons said there might be hopes of his Life Felton answered and said It is impossible I had the force of forty men assisted by him that guarded my Hand that he did not kill him for any private Interest whatsoever that the late Remonstrance of Parliament published the Duke so odious that he appeared to him deserving Death which no Justice durst Execute Tant But we say seldom comes a better Whigg Nay there was not much to choose for the same Councils were still carryed on so that the Duke was not look't upon as the Original but rather an Instrument to execute Perplext Counsels and when he was Kill'd there wanted not others that would venture in his room though all History tells us those little by-wayes and illegal wayes prove as fatal now a-dayes as of old in the dayes of Gaveston and the two Spencers Suffolk c. There was a Paper found tack't
in these words Le Roy Alfred ordcigna pur usage perpetuel que a deur foits per lan on plus sovene pur mistier in temps de Peace le Assembler a Londres put Parliementer surle guidement del People de dieu coment gents soy garderent de Pegers viverent in quiet receiverent droit per certain usages Saints Judgments King Alfred Ordaineth for an usage Perpetual that Twice a Year or oftner if need be in time of Peace they shall Assemble themselves at London to Treat in Parliament of the Government mark that of the People of God how they should keep themselves from Offences should live in quiet and should receive right by certain Laws and Holy Judgments Tory. Right for Standing Privy Councels or long Standing Parliaments may be Pentioners to Foraign States may give Councel for their own ends but a frequent Parliament is uncapable of being Brib'd and most improbable to give any Advice against the Common-weal Common-benefit of King and People Tant In Troth I am at a loss to find out a Reason why any should Address and be Thankful for Dissolving a Parliament Whig And yet your Hand was one of the first to an Address of like nature Heark you you know when and where Tant No more of that I am of another mind now But what says the Lord Coke the Laws Oracle and Apollo concerning the said Statute of King Alfred Whig He saith that the threefold end of this Great and Honourable Assembly of Estates is there declared First That the Subjects might be kept from offending that is that Offences might be prevented both by good and provident Laws and by the due Execution thereof Secondly That men might live safely and in quiet Thirdly That all men might receive Justice by certain Laws and Holy Judgments that is to the end that Justice might be the better Administred that Questions and Defects of Law might by the High-Court of Parliament be planed reduced to certainty and adjudged c. In short Si vetustatem spectes est anquessima si dignitatem est Honoratissima si Jurisdictionem est capacissima If you regard Antiquity the Parliament is the most Ancient Court if Dignity the most Honourable if Jurisdiction the most Soveraign and is a part of the frame of the Common-Law which is called usually Leges Anglicae Tant I thought the Parliament had beginning only since Magna Charta in the Reign of Hen. 3. which is not so very Ancient Whig Some of your Tantivees have said so and writ so but it is your ignorance or worse King Hen. 1. Surnamed Beauclark writ to Pope Pascal saying Notum habeat Sanctitas vestra quod me vivente auxiliante Deo Dignitates usus Regninostri Angliae non imminentur siego quod absit in tanto me dejectione ponerem optimates mei totus Angliae populus id nullo modo pateretur Your Holiness may please to understand that as long as I live by the help of God the Dignities and Customs of our Realm of England shall never be impared or diminished to which if I should which God forbid be so high-base as poorly to condescend my Lords and Commons of England would by no means permit the same Judge then how dangerous it is to change the Ancient Customs and usages of the Common Law much less the greatest and most useful of all the rest frequent and uninterrupted Sessions of Parliament without which the Liberties and Franchises have been and may be taken away remedilesly By the Canon Law Children born before Marriage Solemnized were Legitimate if Matrimony afterwards followed which is contrary to our Common Law This was William the Conqueror's Case who is said to be the Son of a Arlot so notorious that all Whores are since called Harlots for her sake yet William of Malmesbury says that Robert Duke of Normandy his reputed Father did after William was Born Marry his Mother Arlot which did Legitimate William by the Canon Law but it reaches not England For in the like Case when the Bishops would have ruled it according to the Papal Decree Omnes Comites Barones una voce respondement quod nolunt leges Anglicae mutare All the rest of the Lords Earls and Barons with one voice cryed out We will not change the Laws of England accounted the wisest Laws in the World but they must be the weakest and most deficient if it be Arbitrary whether Parliaments a Fundamental Constitution may or may not have a Being or only be born to die namely only to be called together that they may be Dissolv'd Therefore even the late Act for holding Parliaments once in three years or oftner if need be made by that Parliament that from the numerous Pentioners therein is commonly but Improperly called for distinction the Pentioners Parliament amongst the many precious Statutes they made take care and provide that Parliaments shall not only be called but sit and be held or else of what use is this Soveraign Remedy if it be not made use of It would be a Mock-Remedy and Mock-Parliament if it only be call'd together to be Dissolv'd This would defeat the very Letter of the Law as well as the true intent meaning and benefit thereof For if a Gracious and good King as King Charles I. is reported to be had such Horrible Oppressions and Violence committed in his Reign as Loanes Ship-money Illegal Seizures of mens Estates Liberties Free-quarter Coat and Conduct-money and False Imprisonment during his Reign contrary to Law as he acknowledged by after Statutes that condemned them If Papists were prefer'd to Offices of great Trust Military and Civil and if his Favorite the Earl of Strafford raised an Army of Papists 8000. and ruled by them committed such Hainous Enormities and Misdeeds that he was not fit to be a Puny Constable and committed such Tyrannies and Cruelties that no Record can parallel And if no remedy was found to these mischiefs but a Parliament and that not suffered to be for 12 long years together Oh Fruitless Remedy of a Parliament Oh dull and Improvident Ancestors That were wise above all the World to make good Laws for securing our Liberties and Properties of which they were Tenacious to the death And yet that the Law that secures these should not be able to secure it self but to grant a Prerogative to make all null and void at pleasure If such mischiefs happened during the Reign of a Gracious King what may not happen in a Reign less Gracious Penelope's Webb which she weav'd all day and undid all again at night might be a Fable but this the moral of it that our Laws which our wise Ancestors had been long contriving to save us from Arbitrary sway should all be unravell'd again and leave us by a Prerogative of which the Law is the Author to meer good will and pleasure Tory. I must needs say that the Law which should be Wise Holy and Good would be
offend our Liberties Charters Rights and Properties Thirdly By the said Law the place of Meeting then was London Tant Perhaps Westminster and the Banquetting-house were not then built Tory. Thou happens to be in the right on 't Parson for once Whig Parliaments then being so Ancient no Court so Ancient the Lord Coke having trac'd them from the Brittains Saxons Danes Normans to our days I wonder what Tantivees dares as Sybthorp and Bishop Manwaring c. attempt thus to divide separate and make null and void two of the three Estates of this Realm the Lords and Commons to leave us but one Estate a King in use and de facto whilst the the other two the great and main Body have no Subsistance but de Jure stand useless and for nothing years together and always when there is most need of them too If ever any Head liv'd well without the Body give me but one Instance Tant This makes me think of the Fable when the Head and Hand joyn'd together to pull the Gutts out for quoth the Head I plod for all and we quoth Toryhands and Feet have Fought and Wrought for the Head as it annuated and directed and yet the Whiggish Gutts devour all the good Victuals wherefore it was agreed with joynt-forces to tear the Gutts a pieces little considering that both Hand and Head Live and are Nourish'd and grow Fat and Fresh and well-liking by the assistance of the Trading Part the Whiggish-Gutts to whom we grutch that they have a Being and Subsistance though by them we Live and grow Fat and if we offer to tear them apieces and their Ancient Priviledges Charters and Franchises who knows but it may prove our own Ruine Tory. Here 's a wise Tale of a Tub more fit for a Tub-Preacher than a Tantivee Whig Nay for that there shall be no quarrel for Tantivee at an Idle-Pulpit Metaphor or Far-fetch'd Similitude shall match the best Tub-Preacher of them all whilst Tantivee is Pay'd for some as Idle Stories as poor Tub is Fined and Punish'd for Tory. Some men had better Steal a Horse than others to look over the Hedge You have told us what the Common-Law sayes for Parliaments frequent Parliaments Parliaments that Sit and must be held not Mock-Parliaments made like Penelope's-Web only to be Vnravell'd and Dissolv'd But what says the Statute-Law to this point Whig I have not done yet with my Common-Law Tory. Proceed then but be brief Whig The Ancient Treatise called Modus Tenendi Parliamentum which Lord Coke says was rehearsed and declared before William the Conqueror and by him approved and accordingly he held a Parliament for England as appears 21 Edw. 3. fol. 60. wherein we Read that Petitions being truly prefer'd have been Answered by the Law and Custom of Parliament before the end of Parliament Tant But suppose the King will end it before the Petitions and Grievances be redrest by his Prerogative Whig Parson Thou makes Suppositions most dishonourable to Loyal Majesty and that which is scarce to be suppos'd that ever any Head should not permit any Remedy to be applyed to the Gouty or distempered Hands Gutts and Feet For if the Hands be Lame how will the Politick-Head help it self Or if the Gutts be empty or Gutifounder'd how will Head feed its self And if the Feet be Lame and the Heart faint the Head will make Wise-Fighting I believe when it comes too Therefore I cannot imagine a Head to be so Senseless except the Brains be out that should have such an Vnnatural Cruel Stupid and foolish project in the Nodle of it as neither to help the oppressed Gutts and Hands or Feet nor yet permit the Charity and good will of others that are both willing and able to Ease Remedy and Redress the Griefs and Grievances of the Body and all this without a Fee Tant If you apply this to Parliament Redressing Grievances without a Fee you do not mean a Pentioners Parliament I hope Tory. No no such Physitians are payed as many others they got Fees to hasten us the sooner to our Graves Whig But the True-English-Parliament can never be a Long-Parliament nor can the Intervals of Parliament be long nor yet the Sessions of Parliament can be short For Modus Tenendi saith That the Parliament ought not to be ended while any Petition dependeth Vndiscussed and so say the Statutes too as I 'le shew anon irrefragably Or at least to which a determinate Answer is not made Rot. Par. 17 Ed. 3. No. 60.25 Ed. 3. No. 60.50 Ed. 3. No. 212. 2 Rich. 2.134 2 Rich. 2. No. 38. 1 Hen. 4.132 2 Hen. 4. No. 325. and 113. And that one of the Principal ends of calling Parliaments is for Redressing of Grievances that dayly happen of which the King cannot possibly be inform'd so truly as by Parliaments that Parler le ments speak their minds freely without Glozing and Flattery for Kings seldom hear Truth but in Parliament that it is one of the greatest wonders in the World that Kings of all others should not most of all desire frequent Parliamens wherein of all other places he sits in most Majesty and King-like as Gloriously as Powerfully but those Kings that have been Enemies to Parliaments and to frequent Parliaments have been at poor as ever they could creep for go they could not in State and King-like but were glad to make Poor and Beggarly and Illegal Shifts and all to preserve a company of Sneaking Sycophants that care not how Bare and Beggarly the King's Exchequer be so they may but live impune to pull him more bare and bald when there 's scarce a Hair left knowing that they must be Fleec'd too if a Parliament Sir and also must disgorge the ill gotten Goods they have Gourmandiz'd so Greedily and Illegally swallowed up and they are afraid they shall be choak'd when they are forc'd by the Wise Physitians to Spue it up Tory. But if frequent Parliaments to fit so long till all Petitions be Answered and Grievances be Redress'd be secured by Common-Law and Statute-Law How came King Charles I. in open Parliament more than in one Parliament in a kind of Threatning way to tell the Parliaments and bid them remember that the Calling Adjourning Prorogueing Holding and Dissolving was wholly in his Power Whig So it is in his Power that is he alone can do it as many other Kingly Acts Indicting men for Felony Treason c. It cannot be done but in the Kings Name you cannot Arrest a man for Debt that is owing to you but in the Kings Name But still they are things in Course and directed by the Law Besides when King Charles I. had such Principles whisper'd into his head he was but young he liv'd to be wiser before his latter end and to know the Truth of what his Wise Father had told him and his Parliaments very often That as the Head is ordained for the Body and not the Body for the Head so must a Righteous