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A61271 Episcopal jurisdiction asserted according to the right constitution thereof, by His Majesties laws, both ecclesiastical and temporal, occasioned by the stating and vindicating of the Bishop of Waterford's case, with the mayor and sheriffs of Waterford / by a diligent enquirer into the reasons and grounds thereof. Stanhope, Arthur, d. 1685?; Gore, Hugh, 1612 or 13-1691. 1671 (1671) Wing S5221; ESTC R21281 74,602 136

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calling all parties under that jurisdiction to answer in judgement of using Coercive means to such as are refractory and contumacious and bringing matters to a final and full Execution Gothofred sayes well hereupon Quoties casus omissus virtute 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 expressi comprehendi potest toties ad illum fieri debet extensio But least this position may less pleasingly rellish with some pallates because of the Authority I have hither to made use of to establish it by The Imperial or Civil Law being not allowed in these Kingdoms save only in some particular Courts and causes which is to be said of the Canon Law likewise And in respect of the latter of these two some men are apt to look asquint upon any thing that is drawn out of it or grounded thereon They are ready to cry out upon such a thing as a Popish encroachment tending to Advance the Miter and Keyes above the Crown and Scepter * Yet these make up a part of the Kings Ecclesiastical Lawes being so qualified as by Statute is required in 25 Hen. 8. cap. 19. To prevent this or any the like imputation my next and that my principal endeavour is to shew its accordance with the State Constitution and Lawes of these Kingdoms of England and Ireland under His Majesties Government that is with the Ecclesiastical and with the Municipal Lawes thereof and with the Kings Prerogative Royal. In respect of all which I do not doubt to affirm That this position viz. That all persons whatsoever within any Diocess regularly and de jure communi are subject to the jurisdiction of the Bishop of that Diocess in matters and causes of Ecclesiastical cognizance That this position I say is agreeable to the Ecclesiastical Lawes of these Kingdoms Not repugnant to the Municipal Lawes thereof Neither is it thirdly any thing intrenching upon or infringing His Majesties Prerogative Royal These all require distinct and particular considerations 1. It is agreeable to the Ecclesiastical Lawes of these Kingdoms in His late Majesties Proclamation of Royal Assent given to the Book of Canons and Constitutions Ecclesiastical of this Church of Ireland Anno 1634. I observe two things relating to our present purpose the former is a strict injunction upon all persons whatsoever to observe and obey them We do not only by our said Prerogative Royal and Supream Authority in causes Ecclesiastical ratifie confirm and establish by these our Letters Patents the said Canons Orders Ordinances and Constitutions and all and every thing therein contained as is aforesaid but do likewise propound publish and streightly enjoyn and command by our said Authority and by these our Letters Patents the same to be diligently observed executed and equally kept by all our loving Subjects of this our Kingdom in all points wherein they do or may concern every or any of them according to this our Will and pleasure hereby signifyed and expressed The other thing I observe therein is that impartial Execution of them which is required to be made and by whom to be made upon all persons whatsoever that refuse to obey them so it afterwards follows Streightly charging and commanding all Arch-Bishops and all others that exercise any Ecclesiastical jurisdiction within this Realm to see and procure that the same Canons Constitutions Orders and Ordinances be in all points duly observed Not sparing to execute the penalties in them severally mentioned upon Any that shall wittingly or willingly break or neglect to observe the same as they tender the Honour of God the peace of the Church tranquility of the Kingdom and their duties and service unto Vs their King and Sovereign All are commanded to obey these none have an Immunity from being punished if they do not obey them In the last Canon of that Book It is decreed That if Any within this Nation shall despise and contemn the Constitutions thereof Ratified and confirmed by Regal power or affirm that none shall be subject to them but such as were present and gave their voyces to them He shall be Excommunicated and not restored until he shall publickly revoke his Error In the 140 Canon of the Church of England published Anno 1603. It is more particularly and expresly set down and declared that all manner of Persons both of Clergie and Laity are to be subject to the Decrees mentioned in them in causes Ecclesiastical Although they were not themselves particularly assembled in the same Sacred Synod Let us now put both these things observed together and the result is this Here is a jurisdiction declared in respect of certain matters and causes and in respect of Persons indefinitly set down over all And in whom is this jurisdiction declared to be namely in Arch-bishops Bishops c. over whom is it declared to be over all surely The injunction of inflicting penalties in case of disobedience is as universal and extensive subjectively as is the command of obedience Here is no distinction nor exemption made of any Persons under any qualification or Vested with any office or subordinate civil power so as they should be thereby priviledged from Ecclesiastical jurisdiction in matters appertaining thereunto And Vbi lex non distinguit ibi nec nos distinguere debemus where the Law makes none neither may we make any distinction I have made my first instance in these Canons as part of the Kings Ecclesiastical Lawes But I am not to learn that when the Authority of our Canons is urged and that obedience which is required to them is called for There are a generation of such as are wise in their own conceits men of mighty deep understandings who think they pierce further into things and understand more than their poor shallow Brethren are able to do And these will question the Validity of these Canons and their legal obligingness on the Kings Majesties Subjects To all such therefore I shall fairly offer a few considerations and then leave in to their own sober thoughts to determine wha● Coherence there can be betwixt a disowning 〈…〉 the Authority of our Ecclesiastical 〈◊〉 and the profession of being dutiful and obediene Subjects 1 Many learned men both of the Municipal and Civil Law joyn in this opinion and affirm That the Kings Majesty may by virtue of His Supream Authority in matters Ecclesiastical confirm and ratifie into the force of Law Canons made in Convocations and that they be a part of the Kings Ecclesiastical Lawes Princeps tanquam supremus post Deum gubernator potest in causis Ecclesiasticis statuere quicquid verbo divino statutis consuetudinibus Regni sui non repugnaverit Cosen de Politeia Ecclesiastic Anglicana Tab. 1. A. And then he specifies the matter of his former Assertion thus viz. That this supream power of our King is in Condendis novis legibus sive canonibus in ijsdem administrandis relaxandis cirea statum Ecclesiasticum and this done cum Regius assensus fuerit adhibitus iis quae Synodus
King by His Ecclesiastical Judges has the hearing of them and determining in their causes and His leave and licence goes along therewith By vertue of being thus deputed and commissionated by the King the Bishops have and execute an exterior Jurisdiction which is as extensive and universal over all persons in causes belonging thereunto as is the Temporal Jurisdiction in the management of the Temporal Judges and where the Kings Commission is there is His power and there is His consent And where that Commission does not abridge and limit there all proceedings made by power from it have assuredly the Kings leave and licence in conjunction with them But if still notwithstanding all that has been said it be persisted in that there is a disparity of power in the two Jurisdictions as to the extensiveness thereof subjectively so as that the Ecclesiastical Judge in his way of proceedings may not but the Temporal Judge in his way may proceed against any civil Officers as Mayors and Sheriffs c. found Delinquents in any kind I demand How does it appear to be so What Law is there that constitutes this Disparity What legal course prescribed and set down to restrain the Ecclesiastical Judge in case he will be intermedling with such persons for it is irrational to imagine there should be such a Law and yet that it should be destitute of sufficient means to uphold and maintain it self by Truly I am not so vain as to say there is no Law extant which constitutes this Disparity because I know no such but I have been seriously inquisitive and diligent in searching after this but cannot attain a knowledge of any such and would any be so kind to inform me I should thankfully own that kindness Next for any legal course prescribed and set down to restrain Ecclesiastical Judges in case they will be intermedling with such persons If there be any such it must be one or other of these three wayes 1. By Writ of Provision and Praemunire Or 2. By a Writ of Indicavit Or 3. By a Writ of Prohibition By one or other of these the Ecclesiastical Judge is restrained in his proceedings and c●mmanded to desist from prosecuting further such matters as being before him are referred to in those Writs Now concerning the first That Provision and Praemunire has no place nor use in this matter I do for the present plainly declare and afterwards I shall have occasion more largely to prove it 2. Then for the Writ ●f Indicavit that is notoriously known to lie there where a Suit of Tythes is commenced in the Ecclesiastical Court which does amount to a fourth part or above of the whole Benefice or it lieth for the Patron where his Clerk is impleaded for the Advowson i. e. the Right of Patronage 3. There remains only the Writ of Prohibition This is said to be two-fold Prohibitio Juris Prohibitio Hominis Prohibitio Juris is such as is grounded on any Statute or Law of this Land Prohibitio Hominis is such as has no precise word or letter of the Law to sustain it but is raised up by Argument and by way of surmise and as the wit of man will suggest Now put these Prohibitions of both sorts together and I dare boldly affirm that none of either kind have been or can or ought to be granted so as to supersede the Ecclesiastical Judge from his legal proceedings against any person where the matter proceeded upon is indeed of Ecclesiastical cognizance meerly because such a person bears some office of civil power is a Mayor Sheriff Portrieve or any other in like place of authority And this is the reason why I take so much confidence in delivering this affirmation because it is the incompetency of the cause brought into tryal before the Ecclesiastical Judge and not this or that quality or condition of the parties proceeded against that alwayes makes way for moving for and granting of a Prohibition Thus much has been said for the removal of these Objections and still it is clear and evident that the exercise of Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction by the Bishop over all persons whatsoever within his Diocess in matters and causes truly belonging thereunto tends not at all to the impa●ring or invading the Kings Royal Prerogative It has been the glory of our Kings to keep the Rights and Liberties of the Church safe and entire and never to interpret a just exerting and using of their Jurisdiction to be a diminishing of their Royal dignity In some old Presidents of the Writ de Excommunicato capiendo A priviledge peculiar to the Church of England above all the Realms of Christendom that I read of sayes Dr. Cosen Apol. par 1. p. 9. The King declares thus Nolumus quod libertas Ecclesiastica per nos vel Ministros nostros quoscunque aliqualiter violetur Register in bre orig p. 69. a. And again Jura libertates Ecclesiasticas illaesa volentes in omnibus observari ibidem But I have one greater instance hereof to add here At the time of His Majesties Coronation the Oath that He is pleased then to take has this Article therein That He will grant keep and confirm to His people of England the Laws and customs to them granted by the Kings of England His lawful and religious Predecessors and namely the Laws customs and Franchises granted to the Clergy by the glorious King St. Edward his Predecessor according to the Laws of God the true profession of the Gospel established in this Kingdom agreeable to the Prerogative of the Kings thereof and the ancient customs of this Land Afterwards one Bishop present reads this Admonition to the King before the people with a loud voyce Our Lord and King we beseech You to pardon and grant and to preserve unto us and to the Churches committed to our charge all Canonical Priviledges and due Law and Justice and that You would protect and defend us as every good King ought to be a● Protector and Defender of the Bishops and Churches under His Government Whereto the King answereth with a willing and devout heart I promise and grant my part and that I will preserve and maintain to you and the Churches c. By Canonical priviledges that belong to them and their Churches there must needs be implyed the Honour of their several Orders as that Bishops should be above Presbyters c. together with all their due Rights and Jurisdictions Dr. Stewards Answer to a Letter concerning the Church and the Revenues thereof Of these Laws Customs and Franchises granted to the Church and Clergy this of actual exercising Jurisdiction Ecclesiastical in causes belonging thereto is as I have before shewed one and that a principal one too Now to imagine that the King will bind Himself by Oath to the confirming of such Charters and Grants which he either resolves not to keep or such as are detrimental to Him and tend to the impairing His Prerogative is neither consistent with Reason nor Loyalty
of King Edward the third Now if it be here said that these Constitutions were made before the Statute of Praemunire came forth and so proceeded more peremptorily and not with that submissive regard and dutiful obedience to the Crown as they ought to have done I answer by acknowledging those Constitutions to aim indeed at the restraining of the Kings Prerogative and of his Temporal Courts and therefore not of any force now or that proceedings should be guided thereby * Sir Tho. Ridley in his View c. leaves it without decision whether these constitutions be annulled by the Act of Parliament viz. 25. Hen. 8. c. 19. He determines not absolutely I say but refers it to better judgements But this mention is made of them to shew Historically what was then practised and held usually and moreover to evince that where the Rights of the Crown are not thereby impaired nor any of the Kings Temporal Courts invaded Ecclesiastical proceedings may be made against any Person and his being in any subordinate civil office does not exempt him therefrom I must yield to and acknowledge what the Statute 25 Hen. 8. cap. 19. has determined viz. All Canons Constitutions Ordinances and Synodals Provincial that had been then made are received into the body of the Ecclesiastical Laws and are Established to be the Ecclesiastical Lawes of England and become of good force and validity but with this necessary proviso herein quatenus consuetudinibus statutis Regninon repugnant nec prerogativae Regiae adversa●tur Dr. Zouch de jure Ecclesiast p. 1. Sect. 1. So the Statute it self reports of them that they are of force and still binding so far forth as they be not contrariant nor repugnant to the Laws customs and statutes of this Realm nor to the Danger or Hurt of the Kings prerogative Roya In the Formula of Juridical practice for causes Ecclesiastical set forth by Francis Clerk and which is approved in all the Consistories and other Ecclesiastical Courts of England and Ireland In this Formula I say There is a title namely the two hundred and fifteenth title of that Book after what manner to begin and proceed in any Ecclesiastical cause perhaps at the instance of a party against any Community as Dean and Chapter Master Fellows and Scholars of any Colledge c. In the body of which title the manner of proceeding against any Mayor and Community of a City particularly that of London is described whence I make this Collection That what is declared as a matter to be observed in Ecclesiastical practice when occasion requires a proceeding against any Mayor or Community of a City that does certainly imply that such a Mayor and Community are subject to Ecclesiastical jurisdiction and consequently to such penal coercions and censures the matter so requiring it as are properly inflicted thereby Hitherto concerning the first particular that this position is agreeable to the Ecclesiastical Law 2. As this position is agreeable to the Ecclesiastical Law so it is not repugnant to the Kings Temporal Laws or the Municipal Laws of these Kingdoms It is not repugnant to the Statute Law The Statute called Magna Charta confirmed by King Henry the Third in the Ninth year of His Reign and by so many Kings since this Statute said to be the Ancientest written Law that is now extant and the Breviate and Summary of all the written Laws of England and most beneficial to the Subject declares in the first Chapter thereof That the Church of England shall be free and have all her Holy rights and liberties inviolable * Et habeant omnia jur a sua integra that is all Ecclesiastical persons shall enjoy all their lawful jurisdictions and other rights without any diminution or substraction whatsoever D. Coke on Magna Charta cap. 1. Jura sua sayes the same Author ibidem prove plainly that no new rights were given to them but such as they had before hereby are confirmed so that it followes that what amplytude and fulness of jurisdiction they had before is hereby confirmed In the Thirty seven Chapter of the said Statute There is a Reserve to all Archbishops Bishops c. Of all their Liberties and Priviledges one branch of which Liberties and Priviledges and Rights is this power of jurisdiction over all persons in their respective Diocesses Edward the first the Son and Successor of this King ordained the Statute called circumspecte Agatis in the thirteenth year of His Reign It has been affirmed concerning this Law that it was a prelatical Constitution because inserted in the Provincial Constitutions in the title de foro competenti or at the most one onely of the Kings Writs issuing out on some occasion leading thereunto But to confirm the Authority hereof My Lord chief Justice Coke determines of it after this manner though some have said this was no Statute but made by the Prelates themselves Yet that it is an Act of Parliament is not only proved by our Books but also by an Act of Parliament Instit p. 2. p. 487. In this Statute then set down as a boundary betwixt the Spiritual and Temporal jurisdiction full power and authority is given or confirmed rather to the exercise of jurisdiction Ecclesiastical over all persons indistinctly in such cases as belong to and are mentioned in it In the Ninth year of His Son and Successor King Edward the second came forth the statute called Articuli cleri by the form and purport of which it appeareth that for any matter Ecclesiastical indefinitely Men may be cited and if cited then subject to all judicial consequences therein In the Twelfth Chapter of this statute The question is put Whether the Kings Tenants be subject to the Ecclesiastical jurisdiction as others are and if they may be Excommunicated for their manifest contumacie and after forty dayes continuing so whether they may be signified and attached by the Kings Writ The answer given to the question is such It was never yet denyed nor shall be hereafter * The close of which Statute is after this manner Ratifying confirming and approving all and every of the Articles aforesaid with all and every of the Answers made and contained in the same do grant and command them to be kept firmly and observed for ever willing and gran ting for us and our Heirs that the foresaid Prelates and Clergie and their Succe●sors shall use execute and practise for ever the jurisdiction of the Church in the Premises after the Tenor of the Answers aforesaid without quarrel inquieting or vexation of our Heirs or any of our Officers whatsoever they be Poult Collect of statutes p● 101. in fine cap. 16. It seems the Kings Tenants supposed themselves such specially priviledged persons as to be thereby exempted from spiritual jurisdiction but that would not serve their turns And so a pari what would not be sufficient for them will not be sufficient for others though in office under the King During the long Reign
any dare to say That they pare off some rights or pluck some flowers from the Kings Imperial Crown I suppose not How comes it to pass then that the Bishops jurisdiction does Whatsoever may be alledged in defence of the other may be said and it may be something more too in justification of this And know moreover That proceedings in these Temporal distinct jurisdictions go much further upon the persons of men than those of any Ecclesiastical Court does even to the imprisoning of them and in all of them except that of the University to the inflicting of capital punishments And it deserves our further observing what the great Lawyer Sir Edward Coke sayes touching this very thing Albeit the proceedings and process in the Ecclesiastical Courts be in the Name of the Bishops c. It followeth not therefore that either the Court is not the Kings or that the Law whereby they proceed is not the Kings Law for taking one example for many every Leet and View of franck pledge holden by a subject is kept in the Lords Name and yet it is the Kings Court and all the proceedings therein are directed by the Kings Laws and many subjects in England have and hold Courts of Record and other Courts and yet all their proceedings be according to the Kings Laws and customs of the Realm De jure Regis Eccles p. 39. The Learned Bishop Sanderson has convincingly demonstrated That Citations and Decrees in the Bishops Name no way encroacheth on the Kings Authority and that they who urge the contrary have this meaning rather to do the Bishops hurt than the King service and that their affections so far as by what is visible we are able to judge are much what alike towards both His Book called Episcopacy not prejudicial to Regal power p. 3 4. Bishops proceedings in Ecclesiastical Courts under the Name Stile and Seal of the Bishop See this largely discussed and declared to be warrantable by Law by my Lord Coke's comment on the Statute of Marriage 32 Hen. 8. p. 685 686 687. But this Objection is taken up again and urged with new force from hence That in the First year of King Edward the Sixth it was by Statute Enacted That the Bishops should make their processes in the Kings Name and that their Seals should be the Kings Arms. This Statute sayes Mr. Rastall was repealed 1 Mariae 1. And that Statute not being revived by Queen Elizabeth in her Reign all proceeded well enough without danger But in the first Parliament of King James there passed an Act for continuing and reviving divers Statutes and for repealing of some others 1 Jaccb c. 29. Into the body whereof a clause was cunningly conveyed for the repealing of that Statute of the Reign of Queen Mary by which King Edward 's stood repealed Upon this account it was that a little before our late turbulent confusions in England this very thing was urged against the Bishops and their proceedings were declared to be bold usurpations and encroachments on the Prerogative Royal and violations of the Law But as it is usual where men are prepossessed against any thing they are apt to run into many mistakes about the s●me It happened so in this very matter Much ●●lse was raised much stir made hereupon by the Anti●prelatical party as if the Bishops who had given themselves out to be the most zealous assertors were indeed become the onely dangerous impugners of the Kings Prerogative That now they were deprehended in the very design and therefore must needs fall having no plea to make for themselves and having the mischief of their own visible and illegal actings witnessing against them At this rate their Adversaries vaunted and fore-judged them and no doubt as matters went in those times the severest animadversion that could have followed hereupon would have been made if further proceedings therein had not been seasonably prevented by the wisdom of a pious and prudent Prince For the Blessed King Charles the First having beee made acquainted what advantage these forward and busie people were designing to make hereof to the overthrow of His Ecclesiastical Courts and the Bishops His Judges in them He did as Dr. Heylin reports in the life of Archbishop Laud p. 342. call together in the year 1637 the two Lords Chief Justices the Lord Chief Baron and the rest of the Judges and Barons and propounds to them these three following particulars to be certified of 1. Whether processes may not issue out of the Ecclesiastical Courts in the Name of the Bishops 2. Whether a Patent under the Great Seal be necessary for the keeping of Ecclesiastical Courts and enabling Citations Suspensions Excommunications and other censures of the Church 3. Whether Citations ought to be in the Kings Name and under His Seal of Arms And the like for Institutions and Inductions to Benefices and corrections of Ecclesiastical Offences And the like for Visitations whether an express Commission or Patent under the Great Seal of England were requisite To which three Proposals the said Judges unanimously on the First of July in the fore mentioned year concurred and certified under their Hands By Answering to the First thing propounded affirmatively and to the other two negatively And that the fore-mentioned Statute of Edward the Sixth is not now in force Whereupon the King issues out His Proclamation wherein having first taxed the libellous Books and Pamphlets published against the Bishops and after a recital made of these proceedings He concludes the Proclamation thus That His Majestie thought good with the advice of His Council that a publick Declaration of these the opinions of His Reverend and Learned Judges being agreeable to the judgement and resolution of former times should be made known to all His Subjects as well to vindicate the legal proceedings of His Ecclesiastical Courts and Ministers from the unjust and scandalous imputation of invading or intrenching on His Royal Prerogative as to settle the minds and stop the mouths of all unquiet spirits That for the future they presume not to censure His Ecclesiastical Courts or Ministers in these their just and warranted proceedings And hereof His Majesty admonisheth all His subjects to take warning as they will Answer the contrary at their peril c. * Resolutions unanimously given by all the Judges and the Earons of the Exchequer saith my Lord Coke are for matters of Law of Highest Anthority next unto the Court of Parliament Sir Edward Coke 2 Instit p. 618. But some mens minds will not be satisfied with any thing of this nature yet are willing to embrace what is fortified with Parliamentary Authority Both therefore to gratifie them and more throughly to confirm the matter in hand we have also this Parliamentary Authority to offer unto them For although by an Act of Parliament in the Seventeenth year of King Charles the First all jurisdiction Ecclesiastical was quite abrogated and annulled I speak in respect of England for here in Ireland no such Act
nor Religion Here is no need of that Writ in the Kings behalf called Ad quod Damnum As what damage and prejudice will come to the King by confirming Episcopal Jurisdidiction and allowing the actual exercise thereof for in truth the exercise thereof kept in its right constitution and dependance for such a Jurisdiction is only here intended is so far from diminishing the Right and darkning the Jewels of the Crown that they receive a greater lustre and resplendency thereby We have spoken of the Kings Oath which He is pleased at the time of His Coronation to take for the benefit and security of His Subjects There is also the Subjects Oath which they are to take in Recognition of the Kings Sovereignty and in testimony of their fidelity to him I mean the Oath of Supremacy a consideration of which is very proper and pertinent to the matter in hand especially that one branch which the Taker there f●swears to and declares that To his power he will assist and defend all Jurisdictions Priviledges Preheminences and Authorities united and annexed to the Imperial Crown of this Realm In which words the E●● esiastical Jurisdiction is if not only yet specia●ly aimed at Now let such persons that are p●aced in Offices of civil Power and Authority and conceit themselves not subject to Ecclesiastica● Jurisdiction because of their being in such Offices and who yet do take this Oath at the entrance into their Offices let them I say soberly and advisedly bethink themselves how consistent an Oath taken for the observance and defence of the Ecclesiastical J●r●sdiction is with a plain disowning of such Ju●●ction as to themselves or impugning of it and bearing themselves disobediently to it or exempting themselves from it in matters which the Law has clearly appropriated to it or in a word to act any thing to the prejudice of the lawful proceedings thereof It is frivolous and vain to alledge that they acknowledge and will submit to this Jurisdiction in the King and yet at the same time deny their submission to the exercise of it by the Bishops This I say is a vain and frivolous Allegation because it is not a notional and speculative acknowledgment that such a Jurisdiction is united and annexed to the Imperial Crown of this Realm which only fulfills the imp●rt of this Oath But it is an obedience in practice by submitting to the lawful exercise of it that is the soope and intendment of it Now the King exercises no judiciary power in His own person but commits it to His Judges the King hath wholly left matters of Judicature according to His Laws to His Judges * Lord Cole 4 In●it p 71. And the Bishops are those Judges to whom the Ecclesiast Jurisdiction is committed and to them the execution thereof belongeth now what is done in deregation of that power and authority derivatively residing in them is done in like manner in deregation of the same power primitively that is as it is originally in and derives from the King Himself I have said thus much concerning this branch of the Oath of Supremacy not that I take upon me to judge any man but because I take it to be my duty to recommend the consideration of this thing as a matter of very weighty concernment and fit to be made with all sobriety and seriousness I sum up all delivered on this first Proposition under this Head That Bishops proceeding by Authority and deriving the actual exercise of their Jurisdiction from the King are the Kings Ecclesiastical Judges dispensing Justice in the Kings Ecclesiastical Courts according to the Kings Ecclesiastical Laws And that the same Jurisdiction reaches to and over all persons whatsoever within their respective Diocesses all which is agreeable to the Ecclesiastical Laws of these Kingdoms and not repugnant to the Temporal Laws thereof nor yet infringing in any kind the Kings Prerogative Royal and therefore the Bishop of Waterford's Jurisdiction in the Case before laid down was legally founded in respect of the persons proceeded against Prob. II. The second Proposition is this The Bishops Jurisdiction over these persons was legally founded in respect of the cause that this proceeding was made upon The cause was the rendring an accompt of Moneys given and received to pious uses and rendring of an accompt of a large Rate levied to the use of the Church as also concerning the Reparation of the Body of the Cathedrall Church at Waterford That the Bishop is the proper competent Judge to exact an accompt of all such Moneys so given and so to be disposed of will not I suppose be denied or if it be denyed the worst of it is 't is but the being put to the proof of it which is no very difficult task and for sureness sake shall by and by be made good And for the Reparation of Churches that the same belongs to Ecclesiastical though the Law be clear for it will yee be made more clear by having those Laws for it produced But before that be entred upon some notice must be taken of what has been alledged and passed roundly from the mouths of many that concern'd them selves much in his matter That by ancient contract the Mayor Sheriffs and Commonalty of Waterford stand obliged to the making good this Reparation whence the Inference it made That all contracts being of civil cognizance therefore the Bishop was no competent Judge of that branch of the cause which was brought before him the same being not cognizable in the Ecolesiastical Court This Allegation at the first hearing seemed mighty fair and plausible insomuch as some persons otherwise no Enemies to Episcopal Jurisdiction were much concerned and startled thereat And when they first heard it they concluded presently that the Bishop had taken a matter in hand which he ought not to have moved a hand towards as not appertaining to his jurisdiction and so has usurped on the Temporal Courts Nay so strangely transported were some that in their heats they did not stick to affirm that the Bishop by doing what he did had incur'd some heavy penalty which they would not abate of an Ace less than a praemunire it self And many and hard and bitter were the cenfures that several open mouths pronounced upon him But causes as well as persons are sometimes prejudged and both were so in this case As a preparative to the clearing and making good that both cause and person were thus prejudged I shall speak something concerning the matter of contract so mainly insisted upon and that which raised the cry as if the Bishop grounded his proceeding on that contract and therein encroached on the Temporal Jurisdiction Let it therefore for the present be supposed That the Bishop did ground his Ecclesiastical proceeding on that contract although indeed the cause was not so laid yet supposing it were the inference that is thence made peradventure is not good as that the doing thereof was an encroachment on the Temporal Jurisdiction Peradventure
which are criminal To pass by other statutes I instance in these two only The one De Excommunicato capiendo in 5 Elizab. c. 23. where the several crimes therein mentioned subject all such as shall be detected and found guilty of any of them to the Ecclesiastical Tribunal The other is the statute for Uniformity of Common-Prayer c. 1 Elizab. cap. 2. In this statute after a charge given in this Solemn and strict manner The Queens most Excellent Majesty The Lords Temporal and all the Commons in this present Parliament assembled do in Gods Name earnestly require and charge all the Archbishops and Bishops to endeavor their utmost for the due execution thereof●● And then it follows for their power and authority in this behalf Be it further Enacted by the Authority aforesaid That all and singular the said Archbishops Bishops c. and all other their officers exercising Ecclesiastical jurisdiction as well in places exempt as not exempt within their Diocess shall have full power and authority by this Act to reform correct and punish by censures of the Church all and singular Persons which shall offend within any of their Jurisdictions or Diocesses after the said Feast of St. John the Baptist next coming against this Act or Statute any other Law Statute Priviledge liberty or provision heretofore made had or suffered to the contrary notwithstanding See a so the statute made secundo Elizab. cap. 2 here in Ireland The thing we had in hand to make good was this That all persons whatsoever within any Diocess regularly and de jure communi are subject to the Bishop of that Diocess in matters and causes of Ecclesiastical cognizance that this position is not repugnant to the statute Laws of these Kingdoms This I think has been fully evidenced and needs no further enlarging upon And to give one instance of this jurisdictive and coercive power in Bishops over all indefinitely it shall be in the matter of substracting and detaining of Tythes a cause properly and anciently cognizable before them That ample Charter granted by King William the first to the Clergie and mentioned at large by Mr. Selden in his History of Tythes cap. 8. p. 225. The conclusion of which is after this manner Quicunque decimam detinuerit per justitiam Episcopi Regis si necesse fuerit ad redditionem arguatur Startle not Reader at the eying of this that the Bishops power of Justicing has here precedency of place before the Kings conceive not that this was to set Episcopal power on high and make Regal Authority subordinate to it But this declares to whose judicial cognizance under the King the proceeding against detainers of Tythes of what quality and condition soever they be does immediatery appertain who is the Officer and Minister of Justice therein And the Kings power being after mentioned is so set down by way of judicial order and consequence not of subordination in power and Authority Thus much these very words si necesse fuerit plainly do import as if it were said should any of these detainers prove refractory and contumacious against the Bishops authority so that there were a necessity of invoking the secu●ar power the King would then be present therewith and by poenal coercions compel them to give obedience thereto Now for what concerns any other part of the Common Law it may be also both safely and truly in respect of the thing it self affirmed That Ecclesiastical proceedings according to the position laid down bears no contrariety therewith as is set down by Dr. and Student lib. 1 c. 6. That Episcopal jurisdiction is of force in this Kingdom even by the Laws of this Realm in certain particular instances mentioned is reported by Dr. Cosen from a certain Author writing in King Hen. 8th time Apol. part 1. p. 7. The Author is shewing that the Bishop of Rome has not nor ought to have any jurisdiction in His Majesties Kingdoms by the Laws of this Realm The medium whereby he proves this thing is this because Certificates of Bishops in certain cases are allowed by the Common Law and admitted in the Kings Courts But the Popes Certificate is not admitted vid. Lord Coke Instit 4. cap. 74. circa initium de jure Regis Ecclesiastico p. 23. 26. diversos casus thidem citatos Besides in the statute of Appeals 24 Hen. 8. cap. 12. mention is made of spiritual jurisdiction exercised in causes belonging to the same and it is there expresly said That such exercise is grounded on the Laws and customs of this Realm circa mitium dicti statuti Now certainly a statute best informs any one what is truly and what is agreeable to the Common Law The Bishops are by the Common Law the immediate Officers and Ministers of Justice to the Kings Courts in causes Ecclesiastical Lord Coke de jure Regis Ecclesiastico pag. 23. And for what belongs to any custom or ancient usage that has the force of Law among us I cannot find out any such that is impugned by what I have affirmed But thus I may safely determine That if any manner and course of things established by long use and consent of our Ancestors and still kept on foot by daily continuance and practice be a custom and may set up for a Law not-written Then certainly the thing that has been affirmed that is the exercise of Ecclesiastical jurisdiction by Bishops over all persons within their respective Diocesses and in causes belonging to it and thus far endeavoured to be p●oved is not at all contrariant thereto but of perfect agreement yea of the same Nature with it Are there any that after all this will make their reply and tell us of persons exempted from Epis●● pa● power and the exercise thereof bound up and restrained in respect of such and for proof of this will alledge the Authoritative proceeding of King William the Conqueror who would not suffer any Bishop to Excommunicate any of his Barons or Officers for Adultery Incest or any such Heinous crime except by the Kings command first made acquainted therewith By the way it must be known that the word Baron is not to be taken in that limited and restrictive sense as to understand thereby the Higher Nobility to which Votes in Parliament do belong But generally for such who by Tenure in chief or in Capite held land of the King Selden spicelegium ad Eadmerum referente Tho. Fullero B. 3. Histor Eccles p. 4. Whatsoever now shall be collected hence to overthrow what has been before said is easily answered For King William very well understood his own Imperal power and right over the whole body Politick whereof the Clergie were a part And that by vertue thereof the Actual Exercise of both Civil and Ecclesiastical jurisdiction did flow from him And that he might where and when he saw cause restrain the Execution of either how long or in respect of what persons he pleased and this by special
priviledge and immunity granted by him to such persons And yet that jurisdiction so restrained be no more impeached thereby than the ordinary setled course of the common Law by the Exemption of one or more particular persons from being proceeded against therein Let us seek to understand this by a very plain and familiar example every day obversant before us His Majesty has a standing Army in Ireland in Pay and under His Command All the Officers and private Souldiers therein for some good reasons best known to himself in His great wisdom are exempted from any Civil or criminal Impleadments before the Ecclesiastical or Temporal Tribunals without leave first had and obtained from His Royal self or His Vice gerent here Now will it not be a weak inconsequent way of arguing to conclude from hence that the Judges in the Peinpora Courts have not an universal jurisdiction subjectively in respect of those over whom they are appointed because a few a●e by special priviledge exempted from it It will be so too certainly to conclude the like of the Bishops the Kings Ecclesiastical Judges in the Ecclesiastical jurisdiction because s●●re certain person or persons may by peculiar dispensation be taken out of the same let the utm●st be urged that can be fetch 't out of this present instance from William the Conqueror yet we shall find enough to stil and quiet that and in the same kind too remember we but the 12th chapter of the statute ca●ed Articuli Cleri a● t●e before mentioned By that it will be apparent That King William even in this particular did not so narrowly bound Episcopal jurisdiction as King Edward the second did let it loose extend and enlarge it The one exempted his servants and Tenants from the Ecclesiastical jurisdiction The other almost three hundred years after and by a statute Law gave both up and fully submitted them to it With●ut more adoe The question is not whether the King as Supream Governour over all persons in all Ecclesiastical things and causes may exempt any of his Retainers or any subordinate Officers in places of Civil power under Him from being impleaded or proceed●d against in Ecclesiastical Courts But the question is whether he has Actually done it or no or if done it whether to persons so qualified as our case proceeds upon The former I do not I must not I dare not deny For the Regal power and Supremacy reaches as far in granting priviledges and immunities to any who are thought worthy of the same in respect of Ecclesiastical matters and tryals as it does in respect of civil matters and tryals What he may do in the one he may do in the other Thus I read That the King by His Prerogative may give protection to such persons as are His debtors so as not to be sued by their Creditors till Himself be satisfied Fitz. Nat. br fol. 28. B. Instances more might be given of this kind So he may likewise exempt from the Ecclesiastical jurisdiction But that His Majestie has Actually done this to persons so qualified as our case proceeds upon and quatenus as they are so qualified is that thing the contrary to which I have hitherto engaged my self to make clear and have yet something remaining to add thereto For the present instance from William the Conqueror It was no restraining of Episcopal jurisdiction but in such a particular matter reserving to himself the power of appointing the exercise of it or if it yet will be looked upon as a restraint put thereon yet it must be withall considered that he did not so much limit and restrain in this case as he was pleased to give greater scope to it in a matter of far greater importance as shall be shewed by and by Mean while I sum up this point thus That the Established course of Ecclesiastical proceedings is not repugnant to the Municipal Laws of this Kingdom that by the gracious indulgence concessions of our Pious Princes a liberty and power is granted by them to the Bishops to exercise actually Ecclesiastical jurisdiction upon the Subjects of the Crown That they may be summoned That refractory and contumacious persons may by coercive power be reduced to good order That compulsories may be issued forth and censures inflicted where just occasion requires and all due requisits have preceded They may hear and determine in causes of instance between party and party and also proceed against any criminals under Ecclesiastical cognizance of what quality and condition soever they be for correction and reformation of manners 3. This Position That all persons within any Diocess regularly and de jure communi are subject to the jurisdiction of the Bishop of that Diocess in all matters and causes of Ecclesiastical cognizance is not any way intrenching upon or infringing His Majesties Prerogative Royal. The Kings Prerogative is called by Sir Henry Spelman Glossar ibid. Lex Regie dignitatis by the Civilians Jus Imperii by the later Feudists jus Regaliorum And the import of all these is comprised in this description given thereof The Kings Prerogative is that special power preheminence or priviledge that the King hath in any kind over and above other persons and above the ordinary course of the Common Law Cowell ibidem A branch of this is the Kings Legistative power in Ecelesiastical matters and causes with the advice and consent of such as are appointed thereto And by the Statute of King Edward the second in the Seventeenth year of His Reign called Prerogativa Regis it is said That whatsoever Gracious concessions the King is pleased to make unto the Honour of Gods Church and good of the Common wealth and for the remedy of such as be grieved He would not that at any time they should turn in prejudice of Himself or of His Crown but that such Rights as appertain to Him should be saved in all points Rastal's Collection ibidem Now the Actual Exercise of Jurisdiction Ecclesiastical being that which by special Favour of our Kings is granted to the Bishops after a very large and ample manner if any thing therefore in that Grart should tend to the diminution of the Rights of the Crown yet by the Statute before mentioned these is still a salvo to them in all respects whatsoever so that in regard of His Majesties Prerogative Royal in this particular branch of it as well as in all the rest the Position before set down does not nay cannot indeed infringe the same I touched a little before the derivation of Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction as to the executive part of it from the Crown As every Bishop at the time of his Consecration d●es by Solemn Oath recognize the Kings Majesty to be the onely Supreme Governor in this Realm in all Spiritual and Ecclesiastical things and causes as Temporal and by receiving from the King a Patent of Restitution of His Temporalities is thereby invested with Actual Jurisdiction that is a power to exercise and execute such Jurisdiction
the ancient state thereof and is so far from damnifying the Prerogative Royal that it mainly asserts and vindicates the same It might perhaps be doubted That different Jurisdictions in one Kingdom and those exercised by persons of different professions though deriving from one Supreme Head would rather cause than prevent many inconveniencies and those inconveniencies so bad in their nature as to detract from rather than adde to the Supreme Magistrates Dignity and Prerogative as namely by introducing confusion and disorder in the management of both and in the causes and matters to be managed in them and occasioning continual jealousies and distastes betwixt the persons appointed to manage them observed by my Lord Bacon's Advancement of Learning Aphor. 96. But in truth no such ill Effects do follow hereupon for distinct Jurisdictions exercised by persons of several orders and professions in these Kingdoms and vested with authority from the Supreme Magistrates so to do though juridical proceedings therein be different from the ordinary form and prescribed coursel of the Common Law argues unplenitude not a defect of power an advancing of it not derogating from it in that Supreme Magistrate granting the same his great wisdom and prudence in a determinate stating the nature and bounds of each Jurisdiction the appropriating certain causes to be heard and determined in them respectively commanding all His Subjects to give due obedience thereunto in such causes as are limited to those Courts and which any Subject may be concerned in And as both derive from soito depend upon him in an equal poise as to the Authority belonging to each so that all the supposed inconveniencies are sufficiently provided against And the ordering all these things in this set manner is an effect of the Kings high Prerogative enabling him so to do and is both by Custom and Law among us allowed of * The King is the indifferent Arbitrator in all Jurisdictions as well Spiritual as Temporal and it is a Right of His Crown to distribute to them that is to declare their bounds Lord Hobbarts Reports Dr. Jame 's Case observe with me these following instances The Kings Majesty is plyased to confirm a peculiar Jurisdiction granted by His Royal Progenitors to the two Universities of Cambridge and Oxford The Chancellor of each University or his Commissary administer Justice according to the Civil Law and the Customs and Statutes of the University where the persons at variance together are Students or one of them at least is such insomuch as in personal Actions for Debt matters of Accounts or any Contracts made within their own Precincts and in some criminal matters likewise none of them may be called to Westminster Hall but the cognizance thereof belongs to the Chancellor of the said University or his Commissary as is before said If any Appeals be made from Sentences given in any such Trials they are first interposed to the Regents last of all to the Kings Majesty himself Cowell Interp. in verbo Privilege Dr. Duck ut supra sect 30. Will any man now say That the Exercise of this power is intrenching on the Kings Prerogative because His great Courts at Westminster are not applied to and a Jurisdiction distinct from and independent upon them is exercised Surely no because the Exercise of this power is granted by Royal Charter it proceeds from it depends upon it is done in an acknowledgment of the Kings Supreme Power and Prerogative There is a Court of great Dignity and Honour called the Court of the Constable and Earl Marshal of England Herein are determined all Contracts touching Deeds of Arms out of the Realm as Combats Blazons of Armory and the right of bearing Arms c. proper to particular Families the manner of proceeding in this Court is according to the form of the Civil Law * L. Coke Jurisdiction of Courts ca. 17. the use and authority of which is of great sway herein Appeals that are interposed from any definitive sentence in this Court are brought to the Kings Majesty Himself not to His Chancellor the municipal Law is altogether secluded from hence Justice is administred Delinquents are punished without any relation to that or the Judges thereof yet the Kings Prerogative is not infringed by the exercise of this Jurisdiction because it is derived from the King I might add here the Court of the Admiralty the peculiar Jurisdiction exercised within the Cinque Ports by the Lord Warden thereof In these Courts matters both civil and criminal are tryed according to the course prescribed by the civil Law but in the following Leafs I shall have occasion more distinctly to write something relating to these matters and respectively to these two Courts Now as it is in these different Jurisdictions they derive from the King His Subjects are bound by command from Him to obey the Authority thereof if they refuse to obey by poenal coercions proper to each they may be compelled to it yet still the Royal Prerogative is not any whit diminished nor the Rights of the Crown at all impaired hereby As it is thus I say in the distinct Jurisdictions so it is in the exercise of Episcopal Jurisdiction in the Ecclesiastical Courts And now I have uttered thus much I perceive my self beginning to walk on a narrow slippery ridge where a steep precipice is on each side The danger of falling on one hand is least I abase the Prerogative so low as to subject the King in Ecclesiastical causes and matters under the Resolves and Decisions of Classical Assemblies * Huic Disciplinae omnes orhis principes Monarchas fasers suos submittere parere necesse est Travers Disciplin Ecclesiast p. 142 143. Bishop White in his Preface to his Treatise concerning the Sabbath as the Presbyterians do or bring Him in subordination to the Bishop of Rome as the Papists do The danger on the other hand is the over-exalting of the Prerogative so that it might be thought we attribute to the King as sometimes the Papists object to us a power to exercise Sacerdotal Offices in the Church to inflict censures * And yet our Law attributes much in this particular and that very highly to the King Reges Sacro olco unct● spiritualis Jurisdiction●s sunt capaces 33 Edw. 3. Ayde de Roy. 107. Coke Cawdrie's case p. 16. c. Now to walk even and steddy betwixt these two dangerous downfalls is that which must be endeavoured and therefore whereas we own and solemnly recognize the Kings Supremacy in Ecclesiastical matters and causes it is to be understood according to the sense and meaning set down in the words of the 37th Article of the Church of England and also in the Article of the Church of Ireland concerning civil Magistrates The Kings Majesty hath the chief Government of all Estates Ecclesiastical and Civil within His Dominions see Queen Elizabeth's Injunctions set forth in the first year of Her Reign Now this Supremacy keeps the King above all
Supremacy is in him there can therefore lie no Praemunire at this day against any man exercising Jurisdiction subordinately under the King which every Ecclesiastical Judge both doth and acknowledges himself to do See to this purpose Dr. Cosen in his Apol. p. 1. cap. 18. Sir Tho Ridley ut supra Dr. Cowell in the word Praemnnire Whatsoever sayes he is now wrought or threatned against the Jurisdiction Ecclesiastical by colour of the same Statute of Praemuni●e is but in emulation of one Court to another and by consequent a derogation to that Authority from which all Jurisdiction is now derived and the maintenance whereof was by those Princes especially purposed Nam cessante ratione cessat Lek Sir Thomas Smith a person of great judgment one who well understood His Sovereigns Right and Prerogative and wou●d not detract any thing in the least manner from it declares his sense herein after this manner Verum in praesentiarum Curia Christianitatis perinde atque caeterae omnes virtutem vim authoritatem imperium jurisdictionemque suam praeterquam Serenissimae Majesti Diadem●ti Regio post immortalem Deum Potestati aut Principi accepta resert Nemini Id si verum esse concedas quod esse constat verissimum tum Sanctioni Statuariae de Praemunire nullus per Angliam locus relinquitur quando alibi quam in Curia Regis ac Reginae jus nullum dicitur De Repub Anglicana lib. 3. cap. 11. There is a certain word indeed in that Statute viz. alibi the Court of Rome or elsewhere and this word is supposed to be meant of and refer to Bishops Courts So I read that Fitz. herbert a great Lawyer reporteth it Tit. praemunire num 5. Howbeit saving all respect to so great a Lawyer yet this is judged by many grave and learned persons see those before mentioned to be a forced and groundless construction made thereof The word it self is of an ambiguous and variable signification it may refer to the Bishops Consistories and it may as well not refer to them it may refer to any Forreign Courts and Judicatories and any other Courts of these Kingdoms that are not Courts of common Law * So it seems it may refer to the Court of Admiralty in my Lord Coke's opinion 4. Instit cap. 22. or any Courts whatsoever most agreeable to the purport of that Statute wherein any thing is done in derogation of the Regality of our Lord the King it is a slippery and uncertain word none can take sure hold of it no determinate and precise meaning can be affixed to it This word then being so doubtful and uncertain and the penalty of this Statute being so severe as Imprisonment during life for feiture of Goods Lands Chattels Tenements Ejection out of the Kings favour and protection and since the noted Rule is this in poenalibus causis benignius interpretandum est L. 145. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 de Reg. Juris parag finali Now it would be so far from a benigne as to prove indeed a most rigorous sentence to pronounce the falling under so great a penalty on occasion of this expression so full of ambiguity and uncertainty May I presume with the good leave of the Learned in the Municipal Laws of this Kingdom to interpose my conjecture concerning this word Alibi or elsewhere for where there is ambiguity there is room for conjecture I have the ground of what I have to say from Dr Cosen Apol. p. 1. cap. 18. It was in the sixteenth year of King Richard the second that this Statute was Enacted that was in the year of our Lord One thousand three hundred ninety and three at which time and for some time after the Schism about creating of Popes which is reckoned and so called the Twenty ninth Schism Isaacksons Cronolog p. 353. was very rife and hot in agitation Boniface the Ninth was at Rome and Clement called the Seventh made by the French Cardinals was at Avignion in France here was at the same time as had been before two Popes actually exercising Papal Jurisdiction both making Cardinals and both striving to extend their power and authority so far that other Kingdoms as well as the places where they were resident might be under the influence thereof Now so it was that this Statute of Praemunire being intended for the utter exclusion of all Forreign Authority it might be judged necessary to cut off all intercourse betwixt the Kings Subjects and the Popes Consistory whether at Rome or elsewhere and that Processes and other judicial Writs as well dated from Avignion or any other place as from Rome might make the purchasers and pursuers of them liable to the penalties intended by that Statute But there is something further alledged here That although the Ecclesiastical Courts as now established are not in the general intent included within this Statute yet then surely they are when causes belonging to the Temporal Courts are by Ecclesiastical Judges retained and proceeded in I know it passes as a very current Opinion among many That for an Ecclesiastical Judge to deal in any cause not belonging to his Jurisdiction is Praemunire Great is the Authority that bears up this Opinion and for the greatness sake of the Authority many are the Adherers to it In my Lord chief Baron Boltons Justice of the Peace cap. praemunire There is first a recital of the several Statutes concurring in and concerning this crime then follows certain Book cases or resolutions as his Lordship expresses it added for the better explanation of those Statutes One of the said cases is to this effect viz. the 21. Note that the words of the Statute are in Curia Romana vel alibi which is intended in Curia Episcopi And therefore if a man be Excommunicated or profecuted in the Spiritual Court for a thing which appertains to the common Law he that prosecutes such a Suit is in case of praemunire for this there is alledged in the margent 5 Ed. 4. fo 6. Before I was stopped with what is thus set down and what I find affirmed by others to the same effect I was ready to say That it must be a very forc't streining of that Statute that will be able to wring such a sense out of it But who am I that I should oppose my obscure meaness to the authority of so great a person May I have fair leave therefore to offer only a few things to be considered of touching this matter in behalf of the Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction and the Judges belonging to the same And first whereas it is said that by the word alibi in the Statute is intended Curia Episcopi I refer the Reader to what has been before spoken of this particular thing and further I may now seasonably notifie one thing observable in the very Statute it self that may lead us by a more certain hand to perceive what this word alibi has a reference to and what it has not For whereas in the aforesaid Statute of
Jurisdictions of Courts disputed and to see the event which Court is like to prevail above the other and the other evil that does arise is this That Plea's are turned from Court to Court in an endless circular motion as upon Ixions wheel and this was the reason why I found just fault with that multitude of prohibitions And then having given a notable instance relating to what He had before spoken of in the concern of Ecclesiastical causes and their being turn'd off and tossed from Court to Court He gives this direction to the Judges Therefore the only way to avoid this is for you to keep your own bounds and nourish not the people in contempt of other Courts but teach them Reverence to Courts in your publick Speeches both in your Benches and in your Circuits Such was the rare providence of that wise King to keep up the Esteem of the Ecclesiastical Courts and with fair countenance and good encouragement to cherish the Professors of the Ecclesiastical Laws for the Ecclesiastical Laws are such that as Himself is pleased to testifie in another place of the same Speech in many cases cannot be wanting in his Kingdom Not permitting any encroachments to be made thereon much less that the Professors and Judges thereof should be terrified at every turn and awed with the heaviest poenal inflictions upon the least irregular motion and undue proceeding especially since other milder yet as effectual means are provided to rectifie such irregularities and reduce them to the right course again For the wisdom of our Princes has by express provision of Law so well ordered both Jurisdictions that as both flow from them so both shall be kept to prevent confusion in either within their proper bounds and therefore if the Ecclesiastical Judge intermeddles with any thing that appertains not to his Jurisdiction the same Royal Hand that gave forth other things to him restrains him in that And thus by Writs of Prohibition the Ecclesiastical Judge is stopped from proceeding in that which is reserved for another Tribunal And if it were not thus to what end would Prohibitions serve wherefore were they invented why should so solemn a proceeding be before they are granted why so long debating and consulting before they cease and lose their force Lastly why not laid aside as superfluous and needless things after Praemunire was established In the third year of King James certain Articles of Complaint were Exhibited by Archbishop Bancroft before the Kings Majesty and His most Honourable Privy Council touching Abuses in granting Prohibitions The matter mainly canvassed betwixt the Judges of both Jurisdictions was touching the right stating and setling the reasons and grounds of granting Prohibitions All along which contest there is not any the least mention made of Prohibitions granted with respect to the persons who were impleaded but only on the Account of the incompetency of the matter or cause which they were impleaded upon whereas it is acknowledged on both sides that where a matter truly appertaining to the Temporal Jurisdiction is brought into Plea before the Ecclesiastical Judge there any further proceeding in the same is and ought to be restrained by the Writ of Prohibition but it is not said at all that the penalty of Praemunire is incurred thereby And here let me entreat the Reader to fix his eye and understanding a little more intensely upon that which now follows In the twenty fifth and last of those Articles it is thus set down * Vid. Sir Ed. Coke second part of the Institutes of the Laws of England p. 617. Whereas for the better preserving of His Majesties two Supreme Jurisdictions before mentioned viz. the Ecclesiastical and the Temporal that the one might not usurp upon the other two means heretofore have been of ancient time ordained that is to say the censure of Excommunication and the Writ of Prohibition the one to restrain the encroachment of the Temporal Jurisdiction upon the Ecclesiastical the other of the Ecclesiastical upon the Temporal We most humbly desire your Lordships that by your means the Judges may be induced to resolve us why Excommunications may not as freely be put in ure for the preservation of the Jurisdiction Ecclesiastical as Prohibitions are under pretence to defend the Temporal especially against such contentious persons as do uittingly and willingly upon false and frivolous suggestions to the delay of Justice vexation of the Subjects and great scandal of Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction daily procure without fear either of God or me● such undue Prohibitions as we have heretofore mentioned At the reading of this Article I was in great expectation what Answer would be given thereto considering that the business of restraining either Jurisdictions encroaching on the other was thus brought to a short and plain issue for so it seems that if either the Ecclesiastical Court encroached on the Temporal or the Temporal Court encroached on the Ecclesiastical the coercive means applyable for the restraint of either were respectively these two viz. the censure of Excommunication and the Writ of Prohibition but Praemunire is not mentioned at all But come we to the Answer it self and therein we find a full and ample concession of all that is set down in the Article and so as it is set down there what the Ecclesiastical Judges had desired to be resolved in is granted to them according to the very stating thereof proposed by them Take the Answer in the very words thereof set down by the same Author The Excommunication cannot be gainfaid neither may the Prohibition he denyed upon surmise made that the matter pursued in the Ecclesiastical Court is of Temporal cognizance but as soon as that shall appear unto us judicially to be false we grant the consultation A thrifty improver of Advantages would find this concession useful to him in making and urging many inferences from thence to serve well his purpose but the intelligent Reader cannot but have his thoughts full of them and I shall therefore forbear the proposing of any only this I say That by what was set down in the Article and by what is declared in the Answer to it there appears plai●ly That Encroachers on the Spiritual Jurisdiction ●re as subject to Excommunication as Encroachers on the Temporal Jurisdiction are subject to Prohibitions That which my present design leads me to is to conclude from hence That since Prohibitions are by Law the means of restraining any Encroachments on the Temporal Jurisdiction therefore Praemunire does not lie in that case And indeed how should it for is not every Ecclesiastical Court the Kings Ecclesiastical Court and the Laws Ecclesiastical are they not the Kings Ecclesiastical Laws And if in execution of these Laws by the Kings Ecclesiastical Judges there should happen any exceeding of due limits in those Courts as who can say of any Court that it never exceeds yet Praemunire cannot lie thereupon for as I may very well apply that which King James said in that Speech of His