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A46369	The policy of the clergy of France, to destroy the Protestants of that kingdom wherein is set down the ways and means that have been made use of for these twenty years last past, to root out the Protestant religion : in a dialogue between two papists : humbly offered to the consideration of all sincere Protestants, but principally of His Most Sacred Majesty and the Parliament at Oxford.; Politique du clergé de France. English	Jurieu, Pierre, 1637-1713.	1681 (1681)	Wing J1210; ESTC R18016	74,263	216

as Bedlow I find he would be very Eloquent and that he would succeed admirably well in composing the Character of a Stage-Hero Let us speak seriously one must have renounced all Modesty to dare to maintain that all this great action is only a Comedy and a Fiction Par. But as concerning Father le Cheise whom your Hugonot spoke of in the affair of Coleman I have admired how the English have aspersed him by the publication of Colemans Tryal For this Father is every where therein in the middle beginning and the end and it is upon him that the most convincing proofs turn that are produced against Coleman It appears that this F. Jesuit was of the Party and that he was engaged very deep into the design of re-establishing the Roman Catholick Religion in England by fire and by the effusion of Blood Prov. My Gentleman made me that remark and told me thereupon Methinks that the King's Equity ought to move him not to hearken to such a Man in what regards the Interests of the Subjects of the Reformed Religion What may not the Protestants of France fear from a Man who has been so deeply engaged in the design of cutting the Throats of so many millions of Protestants What Counsels may not he give to the King against us who would have set whole Rivers of the Blood of our Brethren aslowing and make a St. Bartholomew beyond the Seas Though he was innocent of the Affair of England the advices he gives against us ought to be suspected For it is clear that he ought to have a great resentment of the fierce accusations that have been formed against him and that he would have the intention to revenge himself on the Protestants of France for the outrages that he might pretend to have receiv'd from the Protestants of England Wherefore it is certain that the King ought to consider him as our declared enemy and as a passionate enemy and not as a zealous Catholick However this Father Jesuit brags he is the Master of all the King's Resolutions in what concerns us It is he if he may be believed to whom the Catholick Church is indebted for all the severe Declarations that have been made against us And when the Declaration was obtained which forbids Catholicks to turn to the Reformed Religion he entred into the Assembly of the Clergy with that Declaration in his hand with a triumphing air and said Here is the piece that has been so long a solliciting it is I that have obtained it If this man be so powerful over the King's mind as he brags he is the Protestants of France could not be secure of their lives We know from good hands added he that the Members of the Council are not too well satisfied in that the affairs His Majesty was used to consult them about and believe them in are at present put into the hands of a Jesuit Par. For my part I avow to you I am not too well perswaded no more than you that this Conspiracy of the English Catholicks is a fiction But I endeavour to perswade it to others because that I wish it were so for the honour of the Catholick Religion which never ought to inspire such Designs Prov. Be it as it will my Hugonot Gentleman concluded from all this that a Protestant Prince can never be assured of the Fidelity of his Catholick Subjects On the contrary said he the Protestants are subject to their Prince out of Conscience and out of a Principle of their Religion They acknowledge no other Superiour than their King and do not believe that for the cause of Heresie it is permitted either to kill a legitimate Prince or to refuse him obedience Par. You might have asked him if what the English do at present against the Duke of York agrees well with that Divinity Because that he is said to be Catholick they would declare him uncapable of succeeding his Brother Prov. I had not time to propose to him that difficulty for he prevented it It is true said he to me that the troubles which are in England seem to tend towards the refusing Obedience to the Duke of York because he is a Catholick When a Soveraign is mounted upon the Throne by legitimate means it seems said I to him that he ought at least to have as much priviledge as his Subjects and enjoy as well as them the Liberty of Conscience That is true answered he me when he has not bound his hands by his own Laws But by the Laws of the Kingdom of England which are the Laws of the King as well as of the State the King is obliged not to suffer any other Religion in the State than the Protestant Religion These Laws cannot be repealed but by the Parliament jointly with the King because that in that Kingdom for the making or repealing Laws the King can do nothing without the Parliament nor the Parliament without the King Wherefore if the Parliament is against the Repealing of these Laws if they must subsist and while that they subsist the King has not power to establish in his Family a different Religion from that of the State You know said he to me that the people of England have great Priviledges and that the Kings have not the Right to do all that they please Particularly added he when there is a Prince to be established the States of the Kingdom who are obliged to be careful of the Preservation of the Religion are authorized to take all their Sureties that no change may be made therein Thus they must either remove from the Throne if they have the Right to do so he who would mount into it to ruin the Religion or at least they ought to bridle his Authority for the hindring him from making changes The Religion of Henry the 4th before he turned Catholick was an Obstacle to his establishment upon the Throne which he would never have surmounted though he was the legitimate Heir of the Crown Par. This man is very knowing He certainly came prepared upon the matter For extempore he could not have given to his reasons so great an air of likelihood Prov. He came without doubt prepared and I likewise perceived that he daily consulted people more knowing than himself For he cleared and argued strongly the next day upon such points as I had found him weak in the day before One of the points of which he spoke to me with the most zeal and passion was that of good Faith They oppose against us said he to me the English and Holland Catholicks But what has been promised to those people that has not been performed The United Provinces of the Low Countries are entred into the Union with this Condition of not suffering any other Religion in their States than the Protestant Though England was reformed under Edward the 6th afterwards under Elizabeth by several Acts of Parliament which are the fundamental Laws of the Kingdom it was ordered that no other Religion should

the Reformed Religion Rules I avow to you that I had nothing to reply to this Article for I had seen with my Eyes all that he said There was one day with me in a long-Boat or Schupe a Priest drest in black Cloaths who was not otherwise disguised than that his Coat was short who said his Breviary before a hundred persons with as much liberty as he could have done in France Par. And what said he of England Prov. He said that at London there are five and twenty Houses without counting those of the Ambassadours of Catholick Princes wherein Mass is publickly said without any search being ever made that the truth is the liberty is not so great in the Country but that all Gentlemen had their Almoners and Priests in their Houses and that all the Catholicks went thither to Mass But that this was not what he had principally to oppose me with But I 'll allow said he that Catholicks have less liberty in Holland and in England than the Reformed have in France But is there any Justice to compare in this regard France with England Why is not England compared with Spain Italy Hungary and all the Territories of Germany subject to the House of Austria They oppose us with the Severity of the English against the Catholicks and we oppose the cruelty of the Spaniards against our people Is there any Comparison The Catholicks have not the liberty of exercise in England but they live there they Traffick there they exercise Arts there they are known there without danger they even perform their Service there without other hurt if they be discovered than that they are forbid to return In Spain and Italy those they call Calvinists and Lutherans are chased away like Lyons and Bears They go in quest of them and if they be discovered they are burnt alive If they have the boldness of making any publick act of their Religion there are no punishments cruel enough to be inflicted upon them It is sufficient that they are suspected or only accused of Lutheranisme for to be cast into the Prisons of the Inquisition where they must perish without Remedy Par. That is not ill imagined For in fine it is certain that the Inquisitition has not yet been established against the Catholicks in the Countries where the Heresie of Luther and Calvin Govern But did he say nothing to you of more force Prov. You shall hear what he aded appeared considerable to me which was that Hugonot Princes cannot have the same toleration for Catholicks in their States that Catholick Princes can have for Hugonots because that Protestant Princes cannot be assured of the fidelity of their Catholick Subjects by reason they have taken Oaths of fidelity to another Prince whom they consider as greater than all Kings It is the Pope and this Prince is a sworn Enemy of the Protestants He obliges the People to believe that a Soveraign turned Heretick has forfeited all the Rights of Soveraignty that they owe him no Obedience that they may with impunity revolt against him that they may fall upon him as an Enemy of the Christian Name even to assassinate him See the Jesuits Morals cap. 3. Book the Third And thereupon he cited to me Mariana Carolus Scribanus Ribadnera Tolet Gretser Hercun Amicus Lescius Valentia Dicatillus and several others that are cited by the Jansenists in the Book of the Jesuits Morals and by the Ministers All these Authors said he to me teach conformably to the Divinity of Rome that a Heretick Prince and Excommunicated by the Pope is but a particular person against whom Armes may be taken that he may be likewise Assassinated or poysoned He added to this the examples of so many Parricides that have been committed or attempted according to these Maximes How many times said he would they have Assassinated Queen Elizabeth Prince Willam of Orange was twice Assassinated and lost his Life the Second time Henry the Third was not he killed by a Jacobin as Excommunicated by the Pope and stript of the Royal Dignity John Chastel did not he attempt the same thing upon Henry the Fourth And did not Ravilliac out of a false Zeal Assassinate him After which he gave me an account of the Gun powder Plot in England by which in the year 1606. the Catholick had undertaken to blow up the King and all the Grandees of the Kingdom by a Mine they had made under the Parliament House He told me of the Jesuits Garnet and Oldcorn Chief of that Conspiracy who were put into the number of the Martyrs whether they would or no for the Jesuit Garnet going to Execution some one of his Companions telling him softly in his Ear that he was going to be a Martyr he answered Nunquam audivi parricidam esse Martyrem I never heard that a Parricide was a Martyr He related to me a hundred scandalous Stories of that nature Amongst others he told me one that extreamly surprized me he read it to me with all its circumstances in a little Book that had been published by an English Minister who calls himself the King of Englands Chaplain Thus it is in short A Divine who had been the Chaplain of King Charles who was beheaded turn'd Catholick some time before his Masters Death and the English Jesuits put such confidence in him that they imparted to him a very terrible thing It was a Consultation allowed of by the Pope about the means of re-establishing the Catholick Religion in England The English Catholicks seeing that the King was a Prisoner in the hands of the Independants formed the Resolution of laying hold on that occasion to destroy the Protestant Religion and re-establish the Catholick Religion They concluded that the only means of re-establishing the Catholick Religion and of cashiering all the Laws that had been made against it in England was to dispatch the King and destroy Monarchy That they might be authorized and maintained in this great Undertaking they deputed eighteen Father-Jesuits to Rome to demand the Popes advice The matter was agitated in secret Assemblies and it was concluded that it was permitted and just to put the King to Death Those Deputies in their passage through Paris consulted the Sorbonne who without waiting for the Opinion of Rome had judged that that enterprise was just and legitimate and upon the return of the Jesuites who had taken the Journey to Rome they communicated to the Sorbonnists the Popes Answer of which several Copies were taken The Deputies who had been at Rome being returned to London confirmed the Catholicks in their Design To compass this point they thrust themselves in amongst the Independants by dissembling their Religion They persuaded those people that the King must be put to Death and it cost that poor Prince his Life some Months after But that Death of King Charles not having had all the Consequences that had been hoped and all Europe having cryed out with horrour against the Parricide committed in the Person of