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B08843 A country dialogue between William and James, on the monthly fast-day with reflections on the earthquake which lately happened at Jamaica, and here Sept. 8. 1692. 1692 (1692) Wing C6528; ESTC R171554 12,007 8

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A Country DIALOGUE BETWEEN William and James ON THE MONTHLY FAST-DAY WITH REFLECTIONS ON THE EARTHQUAKE Which lately happened at Iamaica and Here Sept. 8. 1692. Will. WEll met Jemmy Why was you not at Church to day Jam. I chose the better part Charity I carry'd in a dozen Loads of Wheat the Weather is very uncertain and we must expect Corn will be dear with which I shall be able to relieve my poor Abdicated Neighbours Will. I am sorry you was not there for we had a most heavenly Sermon preached by a Strange Divine Jam. Ay We have very many Strange Divines now-a-days Will. You take me up before I 'm down Jemmy I meant a Stranger Jam. So do I too Strangers to the Orthodox Doctrine of the Church of England Will. You will have your way still I find Before the Sermon our Vicar tickled it off with a godly Prayer made by Bishop B net and the new Archbishop T n and that must be Orthoknocks as you call it I hope Jam New-no Bishop if you will believe St. Cyprian as you may find it in Dr. Stillingfleet's Vnreasonableness of Separation p. 246. His Words are so considerable to our purpose that I will set them down Et cum post primum secundus esse non possit quisque post unum qui 〈◊〉 esse debeat factus est non jam secundus ille sed nullus est Since there cannot be a second after the first whosoever is made Bishop when one is made already who ought to be alone he is not another Bishop but none at all Thou knowest as well as I Billy that Dr. Stilling fleet and Dr. Tillotson were inseparable Waiters at Whitehall and club'd in their Writings Let them reconcile these Words of St. Cyprian even the holy and meek St. Cyprian to their Practices if they can And 't is most earnestly desired that they would club again and solve this Dilemma St. Cyprian's Argument is good against Mr. Baxter ergo 't is so against the new Archbishop of Canterbury for the most Reverend Father in God Dr. Sancroft is still living Will. You are too Book-learn'd for me but I 'll warrant you the Archbishop Til n will satisfie you for he is a very good Christian Jam. Your Warrant I fear will fail in both your Hypothesis's the latter is very much question'd But that we may not be longer Strangers to this strange godly Prayer I pra'ye what was it Will. That God would Bless Preserve and Keep our most Gracious K. William and our most Religious Q. Mary And that he would Defend them against and give them Victory over all their Enemies Jam. What Enemies Did the Parson name them Billy Will. No No But every body knows he meant the Most Christian Turk Lewis the French King and the late King James who would bring into England Popery Slavery and Arbitrary Power But I 'll warrant him for ever returning for the Prayers of the Godly will prevail certainly Ja. The Godly Where dost thou read that God commanded or enjoyn'd Subjects to pray for the Destruction of their lawful King Will. King William and Queen Mary hath commanded it and I am bound in Conscience to obey our King and Queen and they are our lawful Soveraigns I 'm sure I saw them Anointed and Crowned with mine own Eyes Ja. Ay they are the People 's Anointed But did not You and I see King James Anointed and Crown'd too What became of Your Conscience when you Rebell'd against him Ha! Will. I believe by your Talk you did not Fast nor Pray neither to day Ja. Yes I did both but 't was for our Sins particularly those of the deepest Dye Rebellion and King-killing You make an Ahab's Fast for Naboth's Vineyard You have Slander'd the King our Father and his Son nay more Depos'd him and thrust him into a strange Country to starve but God hath rais'd him a Friend in his Extremity and now you Fast and Pray that God would prosper you in your Rebellion and that he would be pleas'd to null the Fifth Eighth Ninth and Tenth Commandments that you may wash your hands and say we 're Innocent Will. No We pray to God to confound the French King and his Devices Jam. Because he preserves our lawful King James If he would banish him as Oliver Cromwell our Prototype formerly gain'd that point then instead of Cursing you would Bless him But God hath given this Monarch a more sublime Soul When we do re-establish K. James on his Throne the glorious K. Lewis will make an advantageous Peace for all Christendom Nothing obstructs a Peace so much as the boundless Ambition of K. W. and poor England is the Ass to bear the Burthen whilst we mount him and raise the Dutch to trample us in the dirt Will. Odsooks say you so The Parson did not say one word of that Jam. No 't is too nice a point to be touch'd but if you will have a little patience and set aside your unreasonable Prejudices I will demonstrate the whole matter to you as concisely and with as much Veracity as I can Know then that this damnable Conspiracy hath been hatching in K. Charles II. time for when they found that good King firm to his Resolution of keeping the Succession in the Right Line and notwithstanding all their Artifices would not pass the Bill of Exclusion but withal advis'd them to make the strictest Bill they could to menacle their Kings in case of a Popish Successor and he would Sign it which was so far from giving them Satisfaction at that time altho so indulgent reasonable and condescending that Shaftsbury was sent into Holland and there founded this horrible Conspiracy and unnatural Rebellion It was not so much to keep out Popery suppress Arbitrary Power and preserve Property Neither of which was in danger in that King's Reign as it is insinuated in all the P. of Orange's Declarations but to alter the Succession and to make the K. of England Elective which they have effected in the P. of Orange designing thereby a Commonwealth when they are able Will. But K. James intended to bring in Popery and govern Arbitrarily by dispensing with our Laws 't is better a Commonwealth than under such a King Jam. To enervate that I was an ocular and an auricular Evidence for K. James the Night before he went to Windsor and then for Salisbury was pleased to express himself at Supper with great Concern for his Kingdoms in these Words with Hands and Eyes lift toward Heaven What would my People have I will call a Parliament that all Grievances may be taken away that Laws may be made to secure their Religion and Property that they may examine strictly into the Birth of the Prince of Wales God forbid that any such Cheat should be put upon the Nation for said our good King darting his Eyes on the Pope's Nuntio clapping his Hand on his Breast I will do as I would be done by for that is the Law
and the Prophets Then directing his Discourse to the Earl of Oxford who waited then as Gentleman of the Bedchamber with the same Asseveration striking his Breast he said I will do as I would be done by for that is the Law and the Prophets Then speaking to Sir Henry Firebrace Clerk-Comptroller in waiting he continued his religious Protestation smiting his Breast c. as before I saw and heard all this Billy as I hope for Salvation And his Majesty express'd himself so pathetically that we did see as it were his Royal Soul in his Pious Face Vultus index animi if ever it was true 't was at that time And to confirm he spoke his Sentiments a Great Person who is now alive told me then the King had declar'd in Coucil There was nothing his People could ask of him that he would not do to satisfie them yet I am afraid said he 't is 〈◊〉 too late His Lordship is now in Commission and therefore you need not doubt of his Majesty's Integrity since a Williamite avow'd it A Peer of the Realm doth not swear when he gives his Verdict against his Fellow-Peer only puts his Hand to his Heart saying Vpon my Honour and 'ts sufficient His Majesty King James did it three times calling God to witness I hope you will allow him his Peerage Billy Yet infatuated Englishmen would not believe him How many Millions of Money How many Thousands of Lives How many Hundreds of Ships had we saved What Reproaches What Calamities nay What Sin● had we avoided by adhering to our pious Soveraign's Promises and Declarations But we blasphemed the Lord 's Anointed and our Soveraign Lord the King saying He is a Deceiver we will not believe him We will not have this man to reign ever us and yet at the same time embraced the P. of Orange as a Saviour sent from Heaven inspired for our mi●●culous Preservation and are still going on in our Lethargick Chimera's altho he hath not made out any thing in his Declarations particularly his bringing over the P. of Wales's Mother a poor Baker's Wife as was pretended tho K. James sent Letters to both Houses to examine narrowly into the Birth of that Prince saying It is not to be supposed at this time of day that the P. of Wales back awny Friends in either House yet it was not insisted on because they know the Proofs irrefragable And tho some say that was not in the P. of Orange's Declaration yet 't is well known that such a Woman was every Night exposed on Horselack in Holland where their Circie of Coaches met as ours do in Hide-Park and publickly declared the P. of W●les Mother who was to go into England with the P. of Orange to confront the Juggle as t●●y call'd it of the Birth of the P. of Wales To confirm the truth of this several Persons of Substance who were then in Holland have deserted the P. of Orange's Interest upon that politick Dutch-Trick You may judge of all other Cheats by this If the P. of Orange's Design had been purely to settle Religion and Property by Law and for preventing Popery and Arbitrary Power and to settle the Succession as 't was pretended Why did he not as King James proposed remain in some part of his Majesty's Dominion with his Troops that a Free Parliament might be called to adjust all Jealousies and Grievances This had been a most glorious Atchievment worthy to be engraven in the Roll of Fame ad perpetuam rei memoriam But inftead of giving an Answer to the King his Uncle and father-in-Father-in-law by the Lords whom he had sent to him on that Errand he marches directly for Windsor Castle and thence to St. James's And to shew he came positively for the Crown all his Declarations were in the Royal Stile We c. To pursue which Design after the Guards were set by the King he changed them to Dutch Guards and sent three Lords when His Majesty was in a sound sleep at Midnight who rudely wak'd him tho disswaded from it by the Page and Gentleman of the Bed-chamber who told them the K. was not well and had slept very little in two Nights before to tell him the P. of Orange could not think himself safe His Majesty being so near him and therefore he would have him remove that Night too else they might have staid until the Morning either to ham-House or to Hampton-Court O barbarous Insolence You or I could not have endured it from Servants no not from our Parents Will. Odsooks I would have broke their Heads had any served me so Jam. Well then by this time I hope you do not think the King did abdicate us we do not truly understand the word it signifies a free and voluntary resignation of our Right Now pray consider did K. James freely and voluntarily resign his Crowns or was he not forced to make his escape out of the hands of his Enemies to save his Life For they had put a Dutch Guard upon him by which he was made a Prisoner and Death usually is the next step to Monarchs Will. They must go whom the Devil drives I never heard a word of this before Jam. No nor thousands more but the quite contrary for they are true Children of their Father they delight in and carry on their designs by Lies But what have we gain'd by this Revolution and Rebellion Let us cast up our Accompts Imprimis We have Dethron'd Depos'd Banish'd and for ever as much as in us lies extirpated our Lawful King and his true Heir under whom we enjoy'd Peace Plenty and Prosperity We paid nothing for these Blessings Billy no! not so much as our Prayers and Praises to Heaven for them as we ought if we had God would not have permitted these judgments to fall upon us Our Sins are the cause let us therefore repent and make restitution to our so much injur'd Soveraign Repentance cannot be true without Restitution to repent and yet continue in the same Sin is nonsense 'T is like the Swearing Clergy-men who in the Letany pray From all Sedition privy Conspiracy and Rebellion good Lord deliver us and yet they continue in Actual Rebellion Preaching against their Lawful King and praying for an Usurper Call ye these Prayers and Praises to God No no be not deceiv'd 'T is the sacrifice of Fools and Knaves and God will esteem it no other I fear and tremble at it There were few or no Taxes in K. James's Reign but since this Revolution Rebellion and Usurpation in four years time only more Money hath been drain'd from poor mistaken-abused England than in the two former Reigns from the miraculous Restoration of K. Charles II. more than 28 Years which great Blessing We have quite forgotten too until the Diabolical Abdication of K. James Nay I may safely take in the Reigns of Qu. Elizabeth K. James I. and K. Charles I. In all 129 years in whose Reign what noise did a little Ship-money make