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A86881	Animadversions and considerations upon a sheet, printed for Francis Smith containing a confession of the faith of several catapædobaptists, whose names are thereunto subscribed. As also the absurdities of the doctrine of arminianism, free-will, and general redemption; and that it is a popish doctrine; and their objections briefly answered. By J. H.	Humfrey, John, 1621-1719.; Humphreys, John, b. 1637.	1679 (1679)	Wing H3666A; ESTC R224279	30,889	102

is Disciple all Nations But the Question may be asked How shall we Disciple them the Answer is Baptizeing them c. then teach them to observe all things c. the Jews did so Disciple their Children and Children Acts 15. are called Disciples and doubtless the Righteousness of Christ and the Kingdom of Heaven is given to the Elect of them Mat. 18.4 5 6. 1 Cor. 14 20. Mark 9.42 Luke 17.1 2. and belongs to them and therefore the Sign of the Covenant belongs to them which is the Water of Baptism and the very rantizing or sprinckling in the Figure is sufficient because the Sprinckling the Blood in the Substance is sufficient 1 Pet. 1.2 The same way that Abraham was Discipled are all aged ones in all times that being ignorant of God's Covenant never knew it or received the Figure before and this by teaching them the Covenant of God as God taught Abraham and then set the Sign on them But the way to Disciple Infants as in that day by Circumcision so in this day by Baptism Acts 15.10 1 Cor. 12.13 Their Children were called Disciples and so are ours Disciples of right if the Substance of the Covenant of Grace be the same as it is for there is no new thing sub Coelis and our Baptism now doth Baptize into the whole Body or Church Universal 1 Cor. 12.13 that is into the number of the Elect and not into particular visible Congregations and when they do actually believe then are they Members of the visible particular Church actual Members and then as Baptism shadowed out their cleansing by Christ's Blood and the Application of it to them in the Womb by God So doth the Supper when they believe figure out Christ's Redemption and Satisfaction to them by his Blood Joh. 6. ult 1 Cor. 11. ult And though the Sacraments be distant in Administration and Respect of time yet Satisfaction Redemption and Cleansing was actually done at once for all the Elect by Christ John 18.34 35. with 1 Jo. 5.6 7 8. and yet I say the Elect have their cleansing sealed and signed Externally for the Internal Seal is the Spirit Ephes 1.13 Rom. 4. mostly in their Infancy because God imputes Christs Righteousness to them in their Infancy Rom. 9.10 3. Gal. 1.16 Mat. 19.14 And because Baptism is not a Communion Sacrament as the Supper is 1 Cor. 11. hence they did not eat the Pascal Lamb till they were able to stand on their Feet eat bitter Herbs and walk Exod. 12. for the Pascal Lamb under the old Administration of Grace was the Sign of Christ's Death for the Elect as the Supper is now both figuring out the same thing to wit the pardon of Sins by Christs bearing them as the Lamb taking them away John 1.29 only that figur'd out the actual time of discharge of the Elect to come but the Supper that the actual time is past Heb. 9.29 and ch 10.14 Neither is Baptism the way of making visible Churches but Profession of the true Faith of Christ Rom. 10.11.10.12 Gal. 3.26 By Faith and not by Baptism you make Baptism your Christ and so slight the Lords Blood by placing life in the Figures But the Apostle when some in his time see 1 Cor. 1. did too much magnifie it he thanked God that he he had not Baptized but a few Families and tells them His Mission was to preach the Gospel A more weighty Affair than administring Baptism though both belonged to him The Apostles never preached up Baptism as the Catabaptists do And though Circumcision did make Disciples of right yet it did not make them visible and actual Disciples but Faith in God's Covenant and the eating the Pascal Lamb was a or the visible Communion as the Supper is now to professed Believers You belie the word of God to prove your own Heresie For this you must answer one day mark it Generation was not the way of the Jews intromiting Church-Members or making them It was the knowledge of God's gracious Covenant Gen. 15.6 Faith in Christ as now Christs Priestly Office took away the Sins of the Elect under the old Administration or Testament as well as now under the new The Covenant was and is substantially and formally the same only differs diathetically and by way of Administration Heb. 8. Jer. 31.31 32 33. 1 Joh. 2.1 2 3. Why do you lye against the Scriptures and say That Vnscriptural Sprinckling for 1 Pet. 1.2 as the Blood of sprinckling purges away the Sins of the Elect so will the Water of sprinckling sufficiently figure it out A little Wax will seal a great Lease when the Covenants therein are firmly agreed do you know what you prate of the Bond-woman and her Son You your selves are Children of the Bond-woman Gal. 4 The Seed of the Adulterer and Whore Isay 57.34 10. and 12. You trust in the life of your hand in your Faith Repentance and Obedience for your formal justification as all Papists do and as the carnal Jews did suppose that the Law of works was given for them to fulfill in their own persons and what they failed of it was to be supplyed by the Sacrifices and Ceremonies Thus mistaking the whole Order and End of the Law which was to carry them to Christ the Mediator who was ordained in his person to fulfill all the Law of God and that Righteousness of his to be imputed to the Elect for their justification and received by Faith when God gave it them to believe And so the Law at Sina given in Thunder and Tempest was to shew them their Sinfulness Rom. 3.19 20 21 22. and God's Wrath boyling against Sinners Rom. 1. and 2. ch who all in Adam have violated Gods holy Law Rom. 3. and come short of the Glory of God by it and to break the Rock of their Carnal Confidence and security 2 Cor. 3. Exod. 19. and 20. To bring the Elect thereby humbly to submit to Christ the Everlasting Mediator on whom the Lord laid all the Sins of the Elect Isay 53.6 11. 1 Pet. 2.24 25. Mica 7.18 19. Psal 89. and Psal 80. ult and imputes his Personal Righteousness to them for their justification 2 Cor. 5.21 Gal. 3.13 Now as they corrupted their Administration of Grace under the Old Testament so do you and your Generation Pelagians Arminians and Papists under the New Testament For the Apostle in that Text Gal. 4. opposes the Covenant of Grace to the Covenant of Works or to the Law made by the Jews as a Covenant of Works as aforesaid and not the New Testament or Administration of Grace against the Old for as they did take the Law for a Covenant of Works so do you the Gospel calling Faith Repentance and Obedience the Conditions of it which are freely given to them as Fruits of the pardon of Sins not procurers and rejecting the imputed Righteousness of Christ as Papists do and make the Acts of your Faith to justifie you which is full of Sin yea full of

Errour and Heresie and therefore your Righteousness shall not profit you in the day of Christ because you are not wholly freed by Christ but Sons of the Bond-woman There were never but two Covenants for Matter and Form that of Works and that of Grace directly opposite one to the other The Covenant of Works was never by Divine Institution established to men since Adam's fall but immediately taken up by Christ the Elects Surety and laid on his Shoulders Isay 9. Being freely wrought in and by him for them is a Covenant of Grace to them but of Works to Christ who obtained all by his Works for them This Covenant of Grace hath two Administrations one under the Old Testament before the Law at Horeb and after the Law to Christ's time in the Flesh Then began the New Testament and Administration of Grace to the Elect more glorious by far than the other for Administration though in respect of the very Substance of the Covenants the Stipulator and Mediator Christ who undertook it for them the Father gave him from Eternity Titus 1.1 2. 2 Tim. 1.9 10. Rom. 8.29 30 31. Ps 89. Isay 53.6 Zac. 9.11 and 6.14 In that of Works in Paradise there was Faith and perfect Obedience but no Repentance Confession or Sorrow of Sin or new Obedience was admitted in that but in that of Grace there is Faith but different from that Faith in the Covenant of Works and new Obedience and Repentance Confession and Sorrow for sin admitted of none of these but to formally justifie only Faith in Christ receives justification and Repentance and New Obedience follows as fruits of Faith and of the pardon of sin which sundamentally hangs on Christ's bearing sin away and satisfying for it once for all Neither doth our Faith or Repentance or new Obedience make us Righteous but Christ's Righteousness fulfilling the Covenant of Works in his own person and imputed to us and received by Faith as given of God for that purpose Ephes 2.5 6 7. Neither is our Repentance or Confession or New Obedience or sorrow for sins committed any part of our Righteousness before God but as to man being wrought by the Spirit of Christ in us follow the pardon of our sins and our being made Righteous and follow Faith also in this administration of Grace publickly Gal. 3. and are not the Grounds or Causes of pardon or Receivers but the absolute Fruits and Effects in the Elect believing Besides The Law at Horeb was to the Jews a conditional Covenant for Temporal Blessings and being broke incurred Temporal Cursings which as such a Covenant expired when Christ came and the Paedagogy of the Jews ceased only the Law as in the Spiritual Power of it as a demonstrative Law in the hand of Christ and the Spirit to humble the Elect and make them sensible of their condition and misery by the fall from the Covenant of Works in innocency as in Adam the only Hole at which all Curse Wrath and Misery Spiritual and Temporal entred Rom. 5. That they may fall on Christ and at his Feet for all Redemption and Help out of themselves thus the Law continues still and for want of this Spiritual Ax Mal. 4. to cut down and humble you that you may appear as nothing but Firebrands for Hell it is that you and all your proud Generations have perverted Christ's Gospel and established a new one Gal. 1.8 9. the which makes your case worse you are insensible of it but glory and triumph in your cursed Bondage Gal. 4. Your justification is full of sin and you make Christ to purchase a sinful justification Gal. 2. and so the Minister of sin you make him while you prate that he removed the Covenant of Works and satisfyed that and procured a Lex remediens a milder Law that is that by Faith Repentance and Obedience we may be justified and so you make sin to justifie for all our Faith and Repentance and Obedience is but filthy Rags Isay 64.6 Phil. 3. and full of sin And Christ faith That when they have done all that 's their duty that is to believe to repent and obey Luke 17. then are they unprofitable Servants Ergo you make sin to justifie when you make Faith actually to justifie 2ly you make Christ the upholder of sin when you with the Papists your Brethren make Christs Blood to purchase a sinfull justification that is that our Faith and Repentance shall justifie Do you see the Pelagian Arminian Papistical Crew upon what Rocks and sholes you split your selves and all to bring in a new and another Gospel to damn you and to exclude Christ's everlasting Righteousness or the Law of works perfectly fulsilled in his person to be imputed to poor sinful undone ruined Worms for their free and real justification Now all these Imperfections are covered to true Believers with the same Righteousness that covers their persons Tit. 1.15 And so both they and all their Performances and Righteousness though in it self faulty is accepted and sanctified and all the sinfulness of it and them covered Ps 32. Rom. 4.5 6 7. This is a benefit peculiar to the Elect who truly believe and receive the imputation of Christ's Righteousness and not to you that cannot cry 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 whose Ruine Damnation lingers not except in infinite Mercy he give you humility and poverty of Spirit Faith in that truth of the true Jesus and everlasting Covenant and Repentance for your Blasphemies and Errours as a Fruit of the pardon of your sins by their transaction on him and the Evidence of your Faith in receiving his Righteousness c. So unless you are freed by Jesus from all sin and misery in esse or posse coming on you in Gods sight from Adam's fall or by your own actual and daily Transgressions and from all the sin and spottedness of all your most holy Duties your Faith Prayers Repentance and new Obedience though wrought puerly in you by Christ's Spirit as true Believers and freed from allsin past present and to come by the transaction of them on Christ by the Father Isa 53.6 and the imputation of his pure Righteousness to your persons received by Faith alone you are not free indeed by the Son Jo. 8.31 32. but in Bondage under the Law and Curse thereof Deut. 27. ult with your Children Your twelfth Article is swollen big with an absolute Errour drawn from the practice of the Apostles laying on of hands not ministerially as a sign of the approbation of Elders but as an Apostolical practice which did with them cease as being fruitless and uneffectual beyond their time and unpractised in the ordinary Churches nor at all upon any Record of Command more than James anointing with Oyl which Papists make a Sacrament or Christ's washing his Disciples Feet But because it is sufficiently confuted by Colonel Danvers a Brother of yours in the water but I hope in the Spirit built on better Principles

ANIMADVERSIONS AND CONSIDERATIONS UPON A Sheet Printed for Francis Smith CONTAINING A Confession of the Faith of several Catapaedobaptists whose Names are thereunto subscribed As also the Absurdities of the Doctrine of Arminianism Free-will and General Redemption and that it is a Popish Doctrine and their Objections briefly answered By J. H. Tolle Lege Judica LONDON Printed for W. Marshal at the Bible in Newgate-street 1679. THE PREFACE TO all true Protestant and Christian Readers into whose hands this little piece may come I desire to let the World know that it is not for the sake of any Interest I have in the World or in any Sect or Party of People this day in the present Age that engages me to this present Affair No let the World know that I knew long since upon whom I have cast the infinite weight of both my Soul and Body viz. upon Jesus that is upon him as fulfilling and having fulfilled in his mediatory person the whole Law of Works and for justification of Faith and Love for me and for all his Elect that were given to him by the Father before the world was The Truths once delivered to the Saints declared in the Scriptures of truth witnessed by the Fathers and Sons of the true Protestant Church since the Apostles days before the Supremacy of the Pope of Rome to the five or six Centuaries though then opposed by the Arrians Nestorians Sabellians Manichees and others and since by the Papists the Head of Antichrist and by the Kenites and pretending Reconcilers of Protestants and Papists I mean the Bridge-makers for a passable way for Papists o're to us or we o're to them viz. the Grotians Armenians and all that hang that way since those unhappy names as well as persons received their Being in the World are the alone and only Motive that carries me into this Affair at this juncture of time And particularly by providence hearing this man for whom this Sheet was printed by name Mr. Francis Smith a Stationer in London preaching up at the Field Town in the County of Oxford this Novel Papistical Doctrine of Arminianism Free-will and General Redemption and Conditional Election in time under the notion of an Anabaptist or Catapaedobaptist if you rather please and having then opposed him as to his Doctrine and finding him and his Adherents stubborn and Heretical and withal scattering the Poison of their Doctrine in this Sheet under the notion of a Confession of their Faith to the subversion of the unsetled and ignorant people I as a Servant to the royal truths of my Soveraign Lord Christ and for the better information of his Elect have according to my poor abillity cast in this Mite into the Corban as my Testimony to him and his truth in this lowring yet Evening Tide of Antichrist The Apostle Paul is my President Gal. 2.5 6. who would not give place for an hour to the Enemies of the Gospel neither did he respect any mans person though they seemed by their external deportment and manners to be some body in the peoples Eyes My Judge is Christ my Soveraign my Jury the twelve Apostles at that great and approaching Sessions when he shall again descend the pregnant clouds to judge the World Acts 1. Heb. 9. ult and crown his Saints and witnesses If any shall think my Language too harsh or Vnchristian let them know 't is not the Sword of the Flesh but that of the Spirit I fight with The Prophet Isay call'd them in his days dumb Dogs the Apostle of the Gentiles Hereticks and I call but all such as come forth in any of the VVhores Trinckets but barking Dogs who are far worse than those dumb Dogs and Hereticks were because they are stubborn Promoters of the Papal Doctrines though not of Popish Ceremonies according to that ancient definition of Heresic by that ancient witness of truth Bishop Grosthead once of Lincoln Heresis est sententia contraria sacrae scripturae palam docta pertinaciter defensa And as it was said by the Protestant Divines of Germany concerning Grotius Quod Hugo Grotius papizat so say I of all these who promote the same Doctrines as he did who instead of flying out of Babylon as the Holy Ghost exhorts Rev. 18.4 5 6. they hover under her inchanting skirts to whose charge if they repent not all the Blood of the Martyrs will be laid as well as to the direct Papists when the Lords time shall be accomplished And till they have answer'd Jewel White Willet against the Papists in the very same points they say nothing against me or my Animadversions though they attempt a Reply And so Reader Farewel Thine in what I may as to these truths herein defended while I am Joh. Humphrys ANIMADVERSIONS and CONSIDERATIONS upon an Heretical Catabaptistical Pelagian Arminian Papistical Sheet lately published entituled A Confession or Declaration of Faith lately presented to King Charles the Second Printed for one Francis Smith which because the Doctrine therein contain'd is partly Papistical and partly mixed with the Ingredients of of Quakerism as Free-will General Redemption and falling away from Christ and such like Trash against the Doctrine of the Gospel primarily taught by Christ and his Apostles and secondarily witnessed to by the Protestant Christian Divines of all Ages and by the Martyrs in the past times of Popery I think fit to declare to the World for the sake of Gods Elect chosen in Christ by the good will and pleasure of God alone from before the foundation of the World to Eternal Salvation by the Transaction of their sins by the Father on Jesus and the free imputation of the Righteousness of the Law fulfilled in him to them which they do in his time when he gives them Faith receive it by Faith alone LET me tell you you Arminian Pelagian Papistical Baptists are not built on the Foundation of the Prophets and Apostles Ephes 3. but upon the Foundation of the Papists and Antichrist for the Papists are true in nothing but in the Doctrine of the Trinity as said Mr. Philpot Martyr and dying men especially Martyrs should be believ'd You peep your Heads out to shew your Antichristian Horns because you are in hope that some lately honoured at the Sturn may countenance your Sect as being inclinable to the same Opinions as being newly whasted by Divine Providence from the Transmarine Territories of Papistry upon the Christian Protestant Shores who yet it is yet to be doubted hath too much of the Pelagian dust of S. Omers cleaving to his feet or shooes But this will fail you in the day of the Lord when the true Jesus Son of God and Son of Mary High-Priest Prophet and King in one Person will plead his own Truths that you and such as you have most abominably abused and belied Your first Article professes Faith in one God and the Father of whom are all things which the Turk and Mahometans do acknowledge as much as you or more See the Alchoran

And so thought the unbelieving Jews under the Law so do you under the Gospel and with the same Irony as the Prophet did them I answer you Go to then make you a clean heart and purge away all your sins clean out of God's sight get you a sinless Faith and Repentance and fulfill the whole Law in your persons perfectly and then God will perhaps receive you But secondly I answer Who art thou that replyest against God Object 4. The Scriptures bids all repent and believe Answer It speaks especially to all the Elect of Jew and Gentile Or ministerially to all universally but spiritually and effectually to the Sheep the Elect. Object 5. God don't desire a Sinner's death but that he repent Answer He dont desire the death of Elect Sinners nor never did for he hath loved them with an Everlasting love a parte ante post Jer. 31.3 Object 6. Then is God a respecter of persons Answer So he is 1. by way of decree for he respected Abel and rejected Cain because he had elected the one and rejected the other and so the person of Jacob and hated the person of Esau before they did good or evil Secondly Officially he respects mens persons for Ministers shall shine as the Stars and I have said ye are Gods to Magistrates and not to all and the Man is the Image and Glory of God according to the place and Authority of an Husband So is not the Wife as a Wife and a Woman See 1 Cor. 11. therefore they that contend and despise and rule over their Husbands are meritricious Gentlewomen and Amazon's terrible Monsters generated out of corruption and the worser part of Evah but the works done by his redeemed and justifyed Children he respects not their persons for their works but for Christs Righteousness imputed he respects both them and their works and will reward them Neither doth he respect the Beauty Riches or Wisdom of any man so as to respect the person for those things though good in themselves Object 7. He gave himself a ransom for all Answer for all his Elect definitively which shall be testify'd in their proper times Kainois idiois that is when he by his Spirit calls and doth convert them Object 8. It is not our works but Christ that works in us Free-will Faith Repentance and new Obedience Answer Though he does it is but filthy Rags Isay 64.6 Phil. 3. but Dross Dung and loss as to our justification Nothing can justifie in any Covenant but a perfect Righteousness performed in a perfect and righteous person that never sinned Rom. 8.2 3. Hab. 1.13 Rom. 7. Object 9. This Doctrine of Election and Reprobation will dishearten people from using the means Answer It will not Gods Elect but rather hearten them Secondly All are commanded ministerially to use the means and have Abilities to do it yea the blind may hear Rom. 10.10 11 12 13. but spiritually the Spirit blows where it listeth John 3. the Spirit is but given to the Sons alone Gal. 4.6 Mat. 13. John 12.40 Object 10. Disobedience to the Law brought and incurred but temporal punishments but to the Gospel Eternal punishments Heb. 12.2 Ans Disobedience to every or to one Tittle of the Law incurs now and ever did Eternal Condemnation for the wages of Sin is Eternal death and Sin is but a transgression of the Law Ergo the transgression of the Law deserves Eternal Death But the Jews as they were under the Law given at Sinai had a Temporal Conditional Covenant to restrain their exhorbitant Spirits and allure them by Temporal Blessings 1 Tim. 1.5 9. There were three ends of the giving the Law at Sinai 1. To shew the dreadfulness of the fall and breach of that Law in Paradise and that at the last Day God shall in Thunder and Flame judge the Bodies and Souls of all that fell and are not reconciled by Christ or covered with his Righteousness Rom. 4.6 7 8. Psal 32. or for whom he hath not fulfilled it in his most sinless and excellent person and so it is a demonstrative Covenant of works Rom. 3.19 shewing Sin and breaking in pieces the self-conceited carnal hearts of Gods Elect that they may receive the Grace of God in Christ by Faith Gal. 3.24 Isay 42.18 19 20. And this was then Externally and Internally and Spiritually and internally now in them that are called the use of the Law to bring them in the hand of Christ to nothing but despiration in and because of sin and self-impotency within and without that so they may in emptiness and poverty receive by Faith a full and able rich Christ Which when it hath done by Faith the Law vanishes out of the Conscience like a baffled Giant and retires into the Flesh to curb that to its duty and is then a Commandment and Law of Love upon the new Covenant heart of a Believer to freely move him according to the External Rule and Matter of the means to glorifie Christ in the World 2 Cor. 3. and 2 Cor. 5. the love of Christ constrains us Secondly a second end of the Law at Sinai was to be a rule to the Elect Believers then to walk with God whose Heart and Will the Law represents And so it was put in the Ark A Type of Christ in whom now the Law is for a Believers Rule Thirdly It was given as a Temporal Conditional Covenant to frighten the stubborn Jews from Rebellion and to engage them to Righteousness a thing God did and does delight in And so the breaches were as in this respect punished but with a Temporal Death and Punishment and the Performers with Temporal Life and Blessings and as such a Covenant its Epoca began at Sinai and did end when Christ came in the Flesh The ignorance of this distinction is the root of all Errours and Heresies And so it was to the Jews under that Testament of Grace as it is now to us under the new and last Testament of Grace sealed and confirmed not with the Blood of Creatures and Beasts but with the Blood of Christ the Son of God to the everlasting Comfort of the Elect Believers Object 11. This Doctrine General Redemption sets all on work to use the means and to endeavour Answer Have ye never read or heard of Penelope that famous Wife that when her Husband was gone to the Trojan-war and thought to have been slain by his long tarrying and she having many Woers perplexing her not delighting her as they do the Ladies of these times was spinning for Ladies in those more ancient times were good House-wifes though now they are many of them Sluts and she put back the sharp importunities of her Rivals with this defence That when she had spun off her Web she would answer them Now to prove her self Loyal to her Husband and deceptious to her Rivals she unspun in the Night what she had spun in the day Hence we call all labour in vain The spinning of Penelope

's Web And such is the Works and Endeavours of all unconverted and unbelieving persons whatsoever though not to so good an end as hers was and this is as good an Answer as your Objection Add to it the Testimony of Christ Mark 7.7 In vain do they worship me and of Jer. 12.1 2. Object 12. What if this Doctrine be Popery yet if it be true it is not to be rejected Answer Philpot the Martyr said to Bonner Bishop of London That the Papists held not one Truth but the Doctrine of the Trinity and yet they held this of Universal Grace and the Words of a Dying Man are true ut aiunt much more of a Dying Martyr and Christian Man Object 13. 'T is Life and Conversation that saves us and makes us like God and not Opinion Answer The living Principles of the Doctrine of Christ are not Opinions but Fundamentals preached by the immediate in spiration of the Spirit confirmed by the ancient Testimony of the Prophets and sealed with the Signet of real Miracles and attested to by the ancient Fathers of the first 500 years and by all the true Churches to this day and the Scriptures are the rule and ground of Faith Ephes 2.20 But such is the Doctrine of Election ab eterno and Reprobation free and personal a good Life and Conversation built upon Christ is the fruit of Christs Spirit working love in the called Elect But such a visible Conversation built on the Law and mans own Righteousness or mans Faith and Repentance though wrought in time is no other than the superstructures of the Scribes and Parisees of old and of Mistical Papists and Antichristians the Bastards of the great Whore in this day Rev. 17.1 2 3. Rev. 2.26 'T is Christ's works Faith and Conversation in him that gives life to his and not that wrought in them though by the Spirit that does but testifie that they have life in Christ to the World 14 Ob. God then made man to damn him Answer with the Apostle But who art thou man that repliest against God Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it why hast thou made me so And beside the Scripture saith He that made them will not save them Isai 27.11 15. Ob. The easiest way is the wrong but eternal free Personal Election is the easiest Answer you know not what you say no man is saved no man believes no man truly repents but it cost Christ his dearest Heart-blood and must cost us the farewel of dearest delights and sin and the loss of our own hearts self and interests Luke 14.28 29 30. 2. That that is the rationallest way is the easiest because all men have naturally reason but your General Redemption and Conditional Election and Free Will is the most rationallest and agreeable to reason therefore the easiest and the way of God above reason and is only fathomed by Faith as Heb. 11. Chap. appears And that gate is straight and narrow Mat. 7. and few enter into it 16. Ob. That whatever we do or sin we shall be saved by the way of Election Answer that is your carping Calumny against the Truth Gods people cannot sin that sin that God cannot or will not forgive 1 Joh. 5. ult There is a sin unto death and a sin not unto death the Elect are beloved when they do no good or evil they are beloved when they do evil their persons not their sins I mean Gal. 2.20 Rom. 9.11 and 13. 2 Tim. 1.9 10. and they are beloved when they do good and they shall do good because they are beloved Phil. 2.13 Heb. 12. two last verses Again the Truths of Christ believed and received and not Errours is the only ground of sobriety righteousness and godliness Tit. 2.12 and 13. 2 Cor. 5.14 And again pray inspicite vobis look upon your Peacocks feet how much unlike the Devils they are though like the Pharisees your Feathers be fine your envy your malice your pride your errours your instability your factions and schismes and Popish Principles back-biting whispering tale-bearing vain discourse tatling 1 Tim. 5. busi-bodying in other folks matters 1 Pet. 4.15 these and such like are the Ingredients that your holiness and righteousness is composed of crying out with the Pharisees Isai 66. Stand far off me I am more holier than thou art And this is the manners of you Baptists most of you in this latter day and Quakers and others too the more is the pity Ob. But we love one another Answer O! Do you so so do the Papists so do the arrantest Hereticks in the World and 't is but self-love and with dissimulation neither for to prop up Self and honour Self and secure your Reputations that is dearer to you than Christ's Blood or love Prate not thus See you what Christ saith Mat. 5.46 47. Luke 6.30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37. 1 Joh. 2.10 11. and Chap. 4.20 Joh. 5.40 41. Measure your life by these Scriptures and deal truly with your hearts Because you have Free Will answer me these Questions 1. Had the Angels Free Will to stand or fall if they had why did they fall or did the Elect Angels stand by their Free Will the other having no sin to tempt them to fall more than the Elect had and why are they called Elect that stand and the other not that did fall 2. Had Judas free will to believe and repent as much as Peter if he had why did he not do as Peter did or did Christ pray for Judas as he did for Peter Mark that 3. When Satan entred Judas and Saul had they power to resist and abandon him or not if they had why was it so great a burden to them that the one was mad the other hanged himself 4. If no sin be damnable but unbelief against the Gospel how came the Angels to be damned and how came Sodom and Gomorrah to be cast into Eternal Fire if the sin against the first Covenant be only the cause of a temporal death and punishment as is by you asserted Ocellos vobis Jehovah aperito c. Per Johannem H. FINIS