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A15122 Here begynneth the boke called the Pype, or tonne, of the lyfe of perfection The reason or cause wherof dothe playnely appere in the processe.; Pype or tonne of the lyfe of perfection. Whitford, Richard, fl. 1495-1555?; Bernard, of Clairvaux, Saint, 1090 or 91-1153. De praecepto et dispensatione. English. 1532 (1532) STC 25421; ESTC S119895 276,534 454

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may be sufficiente for vs to do as other haue done before vs / and to kepe the custome of the place And thus in conclusion obedience shall haue no place excepte it were by conpulsion / And I report me Agayne po●erte what maner of obedience that is They done also professe / and promise wylfull pouerte / but as sone as theyr nouisshipe is past and some before they take stipen selary and wages / as seculer prestes done some more some lesse And therwith and also with suche money and gyftes as theyr frendes done gyue them in almes / and suche also as they done wynne and gete by theyr bodely laboure / or by any other waye and meane / they done therwith bye and sell / dyce / karde and drynke / generally what they wyll at more propre lyberte / and more nere vnto them selfe / than ben worldly ꝑsones / and whan they come abrode they ben well appoynted / and lacke nothynge to be desyred Theyr kynne and frendes ben setforth and promoted with the best / and yet done they call this pouerte Agayne Chastite And as for theyr thyrde vowe chastite howe so euer they done professe and promyse it / they kepe it but slenderly / whiche thynge is so euidēte that it nedeth no farther profe And surely so is it of al the other as you may se perceyue so opēly / that none excuse can be made / wherfore all thoughe it were a lawfull thynge to make these vowes / yet were it better that none were made / excepte they were better kepte natwithstandynge ▪ they that can fynde no maner of grounde nor auctorite / in all the lawe of god / olde / nor newe / that any such vowes were made ne shuld be made And finally it is agayne good reason / and contrary vnto the comune welthe / that suche ꝑsones shulde be suffred to gyue away / and to forsake theyr owne goodes and landes / and thā to lyue in slouth / and mere / and clene ydelnes These ben the wordes and reasons of the heretikes ¶ Nowe speketh the auctoure vnto the reders GOod deuoure reders herers / I byseche you be nat slaūdered ne offended nor any thynge meruayle or doute that I set forthe the reasōs of the heretikes so playne and extremely for the more strōger and vnassoylable that a reason dothe appere in settynge forth / the more feble and of lesse auctorite is it / whan it is by the trouth assoyled for of a surety these reasons wherby these heretikes as aduersaries and enemies of christe / done blaspheme detracte holy religion / and so done delude / deceyue / corrupte the symple myndes of many deuoute persones done seme very stronge as surely founded groūded vpon the trouthes of scripture / as all heresies ben / but whan they ben tried well loked vpon they ben proued in dede ful of falshede for whā they haue for theyr grounde and fyrste or chefe argumēt / put a trouth of scripture than done they subtelly craftely brynge in an other proposition or sentence / whiche scolemē done call a minore / that is to meane a seconde proposition / where vpon with the other that went byfore they done conclude and proue / or rather done seme to proue theyr purpose and heresy whiche seconde proposition is euermore an heresy / or vterly false / and that proposition done / they with out probation or profe / suppose for a trouth whiche in dede is false / so done they cōclude a falshed or an heresy / that to the symple and vnlerned persones / dothe seme true and so ben they blynded and deceyued / as you shall euydentely se perceyue ī the proces that shall folowe Take pacience I beseche you for I muste nede reherse many thynges agayne that byfore ben sayd to make the answere playne vnto euery ꝑsone ¶ Of the answers after order / vnto the reasons of the heretikes before written agayne religion / and the essenciall vowes therof / and fyrste agayne theyr fyrst reason generall The seconde Chapitre FIrst you muste perceyue what thynge is theyr minde and purpose to conclude and proue as a trouth / and to perswage and cause the people to byleue the same That is that al religions wherin these vowes ben made and professed / and consequently al maner of vowes or boūdes of promyse / shulde be cōtrary vnto the lawe of Christe and vnto the liberte of the same And to ꝓue this by / they done put forth a proposition or sentence / whiche amonge scolemen is called a maior / that is a chefe or principall proposition or sentence put for a grounde of trouthe / wherby with the seconde proposition the conclusion may be proued And that maiore or chefe sentence / is here in theyr reason / this in some / that as our lorde god the father of heuen delyuered the chyldren of Israel his chosen people by the hande of Moyses out of the lande of Epipte / from the captiuite of Pharao So dyd he by our lorde and sauiour Iesu delyuer all christianes from the bondage and thraldome of the dyuell / and out of the lande and realme of synne wherin all mankynde was bonde and thrale by the trespasse of Adam So that nowe by the deth of Christe and his other actes of our saluacion / we ben discharged of the cures rigoure of the olde lawe / and restored put vnto fredome vnto the liberte of the gospell This is nowe theyr fyrste propositiō whiche is all true and catholike / well grounded vp on the trouthe of scripture But nowe take good hede vnto the minore Theyr secōde ꝓpositiō where they say / alas alas / with many gay termes to moue the people to byleue them / but all they done saye of theyr owne brayne / and malicious mynde / without any grounde or auctorite / without any good reason / alas saye they that we ben ouerthrowen / and haue forsaken the moste swete pleasaunte fredome and liberte of the gospell / and ben come nowe vnto more thraldome and bondage than euer were the chyldren of Israel in Egipte / all these wordes and those that done folowe ben spokē by theyr rethorike whiche is a science / crafte / or connynge / to perswade theyr purpose wheder it be true or false / for in dede they ben very false / whiche shal be euidente if you take good hede vnto these two termes liberte / and bondage / or fredome and and thraldome / for in these two termes they done meruaylously delude / deceyue / and begyle theyr audience / for they done declare them vnto the people after the carnall letter / cōmune vse of the carnal and vnlerned persones / for they done take bōdage thraldome / for a let or with drawynge of the carnall appetite or sensuall wyll desyre / as whan they ben letted to do what theyr bodely wyll dothe
But the true obediences is alwaye by loued and euer herde graciously accoūted of Christ hym selfe nat onely as his seruaunt or frende ● bu● also as his brother / syster / mother loue 〈◊〉 ther●fore obedience / and auoyde and fle disobedience ¶ Of a breue or shorte recount or reherse of the premysses by order of scripture The .xxiiii. Chapitre THat al religious persones shulde the rather loue the excellent vertue of obedience / and the more fere ordred / hate and abhorre or loth this abominable synne of inobedience or disobedience we haue here setforthe a breue or short Epiloge / recapitulacion or recounte of the sayd incōmodites or punisshement and peynfull rewardes of disobedience after the order of scripture Fyrste than we maye begynne at the example of the fyrste Angell Lucifer that hy disobedience loste the pleasaunt place of heuens blesse / and whan therby the peynfull pitte of hell / there to remayne for euer / in wo and peyne / in shame and rebuke perpetuall Gene. 3. The exāple also / of our fyrst parētes Adam Eue● that by the same vice loste the possession of paradyse / and where they were in possibilite neuer to deyene suffer disease and in moste hyghe honoure end dignite they fell into the misery of all maner of sekenes and dethe infamous vnto the daye of dome and excepte the redēption of our sauiour Dampned Gene. 4. for euer Cayn also theyr eldest sone / lost the cōtre of his natiuite and byrthe / the company and presence of his parentes / outlawed and put to flyght as a renegate / euery where in shame and rebuke / in continuall feare and drede of his lyfe / and at the last slayne in his body / and dampned in soule for euer / and all that came of hym / by whose syn al the worlde was drowned except .viii. persones Gene. 7. And yet after the distruction flode one of those .viii. persones by disobedience in dishonoure and vnreuerence of his father fell in lyke vengeaunce in hym and his Ge. 9. D. Gen 11. B. For the presumpcion of disobedience in byldyng of the toure of Babylone the people were deuided vnto diuerse tonges Ge. 12. A. And all they fell into ydolatry and forsoke our lorde god excepte Abrahā and his wyfe and Loth and his / whome our lorde caled frome among the other people / and put them into the lande of beheste And yet of al the chyldren that Abraham had none dyd folowe our lorde by theyr fathers steppes in obedience but Isaac alone The great cites of Sodome and Gomorre with other Gene. 19. dyd synke for disobedience And Lottes wyfe was tourned in a salt stone The eldest sone of Isaac was cast out of the fauoure of god / for disobedience For whan he knewe the pleasure and wyl of his father he dyd wylfully there agaynst And the chyldren of Iacob had great trouble and sorowe for disobediēce Gel. 28. B. Ibid. 44. Fx. 7. et aliis Exodi 21. Exo. 32. F. Leui. 8 G. The disobedience of kynge Pharao was punisshed by many plages And many punisshementes bene set forth vnto the chyldren of Israel for disobedience In one daye were slayne of them by theyr owne bretherne .xxiii. thousande men Payne of deth was assigned vnto the prestes if after theyr consecracion they went forth among the people wtin Leu. 10 A. vii dayes Nadab Abiu / the childrē of Aaron for disobediēce were sodenly stryken vnto deth with fyre from heuen Leui. 17. The cōmune people that of theyr owne auctorite / without the prestes wolde take vpon thē to do sacrifice / or to make oblacions were cursed of god for theyr inobediēce Ibidē 18. And likewyse of thē / the cōtrary vnto the cōmaundement of god wolde abuse them selfe in the synne of the flesshe with suche persones as there were prohibite forboden These ꝑsones also that misuse theyr bodies in the synne of the flesshe / cōtrarie vnto nature ben cursed / and so bene they that done leyne folowe wychecrafte charmes by disobedience Ibidē 19. et 20. Peyne of deth was appoynted vnto them that by disobediēce dyd approche or come nere vnto the tabernacle of testimonie in the olde lawe excepte onely the tribe of Leui. Numeri 1. G. None other persones shulde touche ne yet curiously loke vpon the vesselles ne vpon the ornamentes apparell of the sanctuarie Nu. 4. B. vnder payne of deth for theyr disobedience If any persones also by disobedience wolde nat kepe the feste of Ester / accordyng vnto the cōmaundemēt they shulde be excōmunicate and accursed Ibi. 9. B. Ibi. 11. A. And the fyre of the vengeaunce and wrathe of our lorde destroyed many of the people / that by disobedience murmured and grudged with the laboures that he had assigned appointed them And of thē that by cōcupiscence and gloutonous desyre to eate flesshe dyd murmure agayne the Manna heuenly meate of goddes sendyng Ibidē G. many were slayne by the plage of god And Marie the syster of Moyses for her in obedience Nu. 12 D. was stryken and made lepre and so remayned .vii. dayes as accursed out of all the other company Ibi. 14. D. All the chyldren of Israel that came out of Egipte / excepte tweyne deyed in wyldernes for theyr disobediēce Ibi. 15. E. That soule sayth our lorde that by pryde disobedience doth breake despise his cōmaūdement shall perysshe and be loste Dathan and Abiron for disobedience dyd synke into hell / with all theyr housholde and substaūce and fyre frō heuen destroyed Chore all his company Ibi. 16. E. Those ꝑsones that wolde nat be obediēt Nu. 18. D. duely to pay theyr tythes were iuged by our lorde vnto deth Moyses and Aaron the great seruauntes of god for theyr in obedience Ibi. 20. B. lost the great honoure of the ledyng and bringyng of the chyldren of Israel into the lande of byheste And for inobedience Nu. 21. B. our lorde sende amōg the chyldren of Israel venemous serpentes that destroyed and slewe many of the people And in a nother place our lorde cōmaunded Moyses to hange vp the prynces of the people agayne the sonne Ibi. 25. B. And xxiiii thousande were slayne also for disobedience Moyses shewed vnto the people / that if they wolde be disobedient whā they shuld come vnto the lande of byhest Deu. 4 D. et 8. D. et Ibi. 11. D they shulde be shortly destroied and come vnto nought If you kepe true obedience sayth our lorde you shall haue benediction and blessyng and if you be disobediente you shall haue contrarie malediction and curse / and throughout all the boke of Deutronomie ben meruaylous thretes or thretynges of our lorde set forthe vnto the breakers of obedience And after the dethe of Moyses all the people dyd bynde them selfe vnder peyne of dethe Iosue 1 D