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A91901 The petitioners vindication from calumnie and aspersion. And the young mans animation to the building up of Zion. Published in their defence, against a scurrilous book or pamphlet lately written against them by I.W. and scandalously intituled, Petitions against bishops and their votes in Parliament. Subscribed unto after a clandestine, delivered after a tumultuous manner, and falsly going under the name of a whole county or town, proved to be both contrary to our late taken Protestation, as also utterly unlawfull by many other cleare and evident reasons. Now answered and refuted, and petitions delivered unto the Parliament, by impregnable reasons proved to be both lawfull, and according to the petitioners duty, and the late taken Protestation. With many other remarkable passages worthy of observation. By T. Robinson, veritati devotum. Robinson, T., fl. 1642. 1642 (1642) Wing R1715; Thomason E146_24; ESTC R212725 45,496 53

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THE PETITIONERS VINDICATION from CALVMNIE and ASPERSION And the Young Mans Animation to the building up of ZION Published in their Defence against a scurrilous Book or Pamphlet lately written against them by I. W. and scandalously intituled Petitions against Bishops and their Votes in Parliament Subscribed unto after a Clandestine delivered after a tumultuous manner and falsly going under the name of a whole County or Town proved to be both contrary to our late taken Protestation as also utterly unlawfull by many other cleare and evident Reasons Now answered and refuted and Petitions delivered unto the PARLIAMENT by impregnable reasons proved to be both lawfull and according to the Petitioners duty and the late taken Protestation With many other remarkable passages worthy of observation By T. Robinson Veritati Devotum Prov. 26. 24 25. He that hateth will counterfeit with his lips but in his heart he layeth up deceit Though he speak favourably beleeve him not for there are seven abominations in his heart LONDON Printed by T. P. and M. S. and are to be sold at the Castle in Cornhill 1642. COurteous Reader for your better understanding of this Book I have first recited the Author of the book I answer his matter with the folio of his book wherein it is then as I handle his particular sayings or assertions I denote them alphabetically both in his matter and mine as for example In his Ingression or entrance fo 2. of this book he saith viz. For him who is but a private subject and no Law-maker to give his hand in a factious way c. I first undertaking to clear that scandall set the letter a at the words factious way and so likewise in my answer thereunto And thus throughout the whole Treatise that wheresoever a letter by it self is in any part of my Answer you may look back to the same in my Authors argument just precedent and discern more plainly the thing by him affirmed or implyed and by me refuted And if I had not so done I know not how you would rightly have understood him For he hath observed neither rule or method in his discourse or argument but heapeth up many things confusedly together thereby to perplex the mind and darken reason that so like a cunning Merchant he may the better in a bundle put off his suffisticated ware for sound and currant unto men T. R. THE PETITIONERS VINDICATION FROM Calumnie and Aspersion And the Young Mans Animation to the building up of ZION THe Author of the aforesaid book folio 1. doth by way of Introduction first imply the importuning will of some friend by him there called Mr. Cachisme for his hand to a Petition such as by his discourse appeares have of late by severall parts and persons of this Kingdom been delivered to the Honorable House of Parliament Secondly his unwillingnesse to subscribe the same and willing mind to satisfie him therefore albeit as he saith he shall be alwayes readie and willing not onely to give his hand but his heart and purse likewise for the good of the Common-weal County or Parish wherein he lives and for that cause hath been both active and passive severall yeers together Where he properly liveth or what his proper name is I know not nor hath he declared it may be he doth here but reside or sojourn upon some negotiation and his true living may be in Spaine France Flanders or elsewhere and so what he hath apologized may be * For the good of the common weal County or parish wherin he lives good otherwise the sequell of his writing in my judgement doth plainly render him evilly affected to our good viz. to the Republique of this our England and the common cause in hand For his pretended satisfaction tends meerly to the diminution of the courage and constancie of good men the freezing of the cold and the incouragement of the wickedly bold And his Ingression But for me who am but a private Subject c. is palpably a slye insinuation of a matter of * The best glosses are often put on the worst commodities and the worst wine into the purest glasses The Authors Ingression conscience for the not subscribing his friends Petition the better the reby to gain credence and persw●sion from the hearts of people and that principally from the greater multitude the ignorant and indifferent But by the way a word of that viz. But for me who am but a private b subject a c Protestant and no d Law-maker to give my hand in a factious a way and without e command from Authoritie to will that there should be f no Bishops and that they shall have no voice in the House g of Peers is against my h conscience and that i light of reason and understanding which I have received And I dare not comply with the k distempers of the people and follow the streame of a multitude to do evill on these grounds follooeing Ye have him in his own words verbatim Lo here he concludes both Petitions and Petitioners to the House of Parliament to be a * Mark doth he not impudently asperse the whole Parliament hereby as if they did countenance both factions and factious persons for they accepted both the Petitioners and their Petitions factious a phrase wholly scandalous Answer and used to deter others For what disturbance or commotion was thereby either plotted or practised through them either against King or State what breach of Law or publique peace only as members sensible of the great jeopeardy the whole Body was in they humbly fought for redresse to the Fountain of succour and justice And every one as a private b man hath an interest in the publique state and cause of the Land For it is not onely one mans cause but every ones and we are all members one of another And as every particular member doth participate of the universall health or sicknesse of the body and as every member naturall doth grow and prosper according to the distemperature or sound constitution of the heart or brain from whence and on which its whole life and motion doth depend so is it in every member politique And as the members corporall being hurt sick or any wayes grieved do by a naturall instinct and way inscrutable forthwith look and send unto the prime parts before named for strength and comfort yea and secretly excite all the other parts also to be assistant So questionlesse may the members of the Body politique finding themselves wounded weakned and many wayes grieved by their oppressive foes and distractive fears lawfully look up and by humble Petition sue unto the King and Parliament both which are one the verie heart and head life and being of this pristine land and Nation and of every true member of the same yea and invite others also to assist them therein The woman in her distresse cried to the King of Israel for help when it was not in his power to help 2
for in all his discourse he doth not so much as blow upon it And what way more humble and lesse offensive then supplication and what way more submisse and tolerable then petition Sure he is rapt in the spirit intimating divine deprication then which with God nothing indeed is more forcible But I think I may rather say unto him Satin ' sanus es is he well in his wits for what is more lawfull nay more needfull and commendable then to ask things lawfull whether from God above or of the gods belowe especially with this conclusion humbly subjecting to their grave wisedom as it is well known all our Petitioners have done Again what man distempered in mind sick or maimed in body or crazed in estate will not discover to his Divine Physitian or Lawyer his grief yea and the cause too if he can earnestly imploring help and comfort from him nay not cease untill if it may be he hath in some good measure obtained it And hath not the whole mind and body to wit both the Ministery and Magistracie of the Land and every living member thereof been grievously distempered sick and wounded and whom should we inform and make acquainted with our desperate maladies and their causes But that most wise and ever approved skilfull Minister Physitian and Lawyer the all healing Parliament whom we have chosen and in whom under our God we do confide for the diligent search of our distempers redresse of our grievances reparations of our estates and restauration of our perfect health and strength again Yet as the Patient doth alway find and feele somewhat more in himself then the Doctor can discover or discern So doth the great Patient our Land and Kingdom find and feele many close and inward griefs which that learned Doctor the Parliament cannot of it self espie and therefore on necessitie must be by their great Patient the people informed of or else they can minister no remedie My Author hath forgot the old Rule Egrotare malum sed pejus nolle sanarl It is ill to be sick but much worse not to seek cure Besides he is but an ill servant and a negligent that while his master is busie in private consultation within or in serious examination of his estate will not have a carefull eye into the shop and affaires abroad and in case he discry any danger theft or other evill act do not speedily give his master notice for remedy The happie Parliament is our Privie Councell Chamber or the great withdrawing roome of the Kingdom where they as so many great State Masters do sit in consultation and strict examination of our publique estate and welfare The whole Land is the shop of all manner of intercourse and negotiation We should prove our selves but very bad members remisse servants and carelesse if while our great Masters were thus busied within we should not once look about in the shop in the common-wealth every man according to his severall place and if we see or foresee any evill present or approaching not yeeld them intelligence that so they may happily make prevention And now do I remember the urgencie yea and the varietie of vehement arguments the poore widow of Tekoah used to bring back banished Absolom 2 Sam. 14. 4. to 21. a wretch and of no relation to her Ought not we much more to be instant and that by many Petitions with our David with our Parliament who are indeed even as an Angel of God in hearing of good and bad therefore the Lord their God be with them vers 17. for the bringing back not of a murderous Absolom but a poore dejected distressed Kingdom spoiled and stabbed as I may say to the very heart not by one but many faire looked false-hearted Absoloms yea and as all the people throughout the Tribes of Israel 2 Sam. 19. 9. were at strife to bring back David to his Kingdom whom ambitious Absolom his unnaturall sonne had put to flight so why should not we contend what City what company and what County should be formost with our pains and petitions to bring back I cannot say our King Charles from exile God forbid but I may say * His Person to his Parliament his ancient glory and honour and the old renown of this Land and Nation which the aspiring Absoloms of our time unnaturall Brats have so farre as they could even put to flight and banished out of sight yea out of many a heart And I know no sound and honest heart can deem this a mark of a w tyrannicall Judge or an illegall witnesse or of a transgressour of the Laws or one that seeketh confusion as my Author implyeth against the Petitioners But he will say they came with weapons as swords bils staves c. It is true but neither to offend nor enforce but to defend their own persons from such as for their good will to the common good * As Lunsford and his company the Bishops imps and Dam-me Boies at Whitehall did maligne them and to their eternall contempt and odium be it spoken did despightfully use them And thus much for his third ground Now you shall hear his fourth fol. 4. viz. I am likewise obliged to maintain the Kings royall person honour The Authors 4. ground and estate and to preserve the union and peace between the three kingdoms much more among our selves Now there is no better way thereunto then to x keep his laws for both the honour and safety of the King the liberty and peace of the Kingdom and welfare of them both are involved in them Here is little to be gainsaid for who knoweth not that the Answer prime way to honour his Majestie and to preserve peace in the Kingdom and common-wealth is to keep and obey the Laws provided alway they oppugne not Gods Laws and I would they had been alway kept as they should have been and then we should have had lesse trouble at this time Yet one thing more then meer obedience to the Law is every one that hath taken the Protestation bound unto that is to do their best to bring every one that doth disobey the Laws to condigne punishment otherwise there can be but little peace be you and I never so obedient and the best way to conserve peace is to endeavour the correction of all the perturbers thereof which are the violators of the Laws the bonds of our peace and herein have the Petitioners but justly also fulfilled their oath in praying the execution of the Laws upon all Recusants and Delinquents who have ever been the onely Authors of our unquietnesse seeking still to break our bands our Laws and to cast our cords to wit our Statutes from them But as for my Author I do not understand that he desireth any such execution for he rather judgeth the Petitioners for justice breakers of the Laws then keepers of them and this he secretly x implyeth though not openly averreth And so I come to his fifth ground
in their stead They have been false in much how then can they be faithfull in a little They have not well governed their own house how then can they govern well the house of God 1 Tim. 3. 4. 5. And so I come again to his own words fo 9. viz. Thirdly because that which is or seemeth to p be a prejudice now ● Author may in Gods good time prove a great benefit We many times earnestly pray for those things which afterwards we give God thanks for not q granting our requests and this hath many times been for the removall of our present afflictions I am confident if there were good care taken as there may be that r good men may be made Bishops we shall never p repent of their lawfull office or place for s greatnesse with goodnesse will much advance the cause and welfare of the Church and commonwealth And further I know it is possible for some t inferiours to execute the Law and the Gospel likewise in a farre more imperious and tyrannicall way then some Superiours have done True it is that many things which seem p hurtfull at the Answer first may in due time prove very good in taste they may be bitter but in digestion profitable But it must be considered whether things be simply evill and fundamentally or by occasion and accidentally Now what is simply evill and fundamentally can never prove good nor produce any otherwise then God by his all ruling providence shall dispose it but that is not thank-worthy to the instrument And such is the power and jurisdiction of the present Bishops and therefore both we and ours need never fear p repentance for seeking to have them removed but q heartily praise God if it may be granted I know it is possible to have r good men for Bishops but then they must be chosen according to the rule of the Gospel and not after the Articles of their Doctrine Act. 1. 15. 24. to the end and 14. 23. and not one Bishop be elected by another as they are receiving the holy Ghost from such as may be suspected never had it And my Author and the whole world in my opinion do mightily mistake whilest they imagine that such externall s state and greatnesse is requisite in the Ministers of the Church This was that delusion wherewith the devill blinded the eyes of the poore Jews they looked for a triumphing Messias with stately attendants and in pompous trappings but lo he cometh meekly riding on an Asse Surely if outward state and glory had been expedient for Christs Church He himself being her head and husband would have put it on and left it for a rule and an example to his Apostles and their successours especially at that time when he came from heaven to marry her and occupied the place of a Bridegroome Matth. 9. 15. But we do neither find it in his person for imitation nor in his doctrine for direction nay his rules are contrary and so were his Apostles practises Paul that Architect in the house of God and chief Planter of Churches although most worthy if any more then other was content to live in mean estate not seeking his own but the good of others I find not in all the new Testament that any of them had either lands or livings I am sure not glebe or Ecclesiasticall as they call them if they had other they did sell and communicate them Act. 2. 45. and 4. 37. no nor set allowance Indeed they eat of the fruit of their labours as is most just according to that in the 1 Cor. 9. 1. to the 24. and it is our duty to take care for them Rom. 15. 27. Gal. 6. 6. But I know no precept for any positive means The Leviticall Law is abolished tithes and tents are certainly ended the Priesthood being changed their rights are likewise changed Hebr. 7. 12. and for certain the Apostles were not ignorant both of the force and extent of this Law I speak not this to abase the Ministerie or encourage any in their neglect or disrespect toward them The Labourer is worthy of his hire and God forbid but they that preach the Gospel should live of the Gospel 1 Cor. 9. 14. and that comfortably void of care For if the servant of the old Law was so honourable much more is the Minister of the new How beautifull are the feet of them that bring glad tidings of salvation Isa 52. 7. But again I say I conceive neither rule nor reason why they should have so many thousands and so many hundreds per annum tithe of all even to an egge yea and all will hardly * Witnesse that unreasonable demand and unsatiable pursuite of 2. s. 9. d. in the pound suffice being most of them too much like those greedy dogges in Isaiah 56. 11. for by these means they become puft up and set themselves in competition with the men of this world contending for preheminence and priority forgetting that godlinesse is great gain and that they ought to teach the Gospel of a * Christus ob gratiam Christi non muneris mundi praedicandus est ready mind and not for filthy lucre they plough not in hope they thresh not in hope as the Apostles did 1 Cor. 9. 10. But they will be at a surer lock they wil know before hand what they shall have like Judas quid dabis and if their own termes and conditions be not fulfilled they wil neither * Witnesse Mr. Finch Mr. Hutton Mr. Davies Mr. Swadling c. cum multis aliis quos jam praescribere longum est preach pray with you administer the Sacrament to you nor bury your dead nay if a man put not into their mouthes they prepare war against him Mich. 3. 5. Thus by practise making good the old popish Proverbe No peny no Pater noster These things have caused them to mind the Fleece onely and not the Flock and given them horns to gore the poore Saints of God And besides for these * Quisquis ad praemia velox things sake have many crept into the folds who have not been shepherds but ravening wolves And I have observed that corruption came first into the primitive Church by the doore of ambition and the coveting of worldly pomp and dignitie was the very Basis of the Seat of Rome and the first step of the Beast his throne for under the colour that exterior wealth and power would elevate and advance Religion crept up that man not of God but of sinne with all his lordly train But some will say was it not for these incouragements few or none would apply themselves to the Ministerie I commend incouragement it is not the use but the abuse not the end but the excesse and unequall disposing of it I condemne And fear not labourers whilest there is a harvest for God hath promised to send or thrust forth Labourers into his harvest and to that end hath he