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A91287	The subjection of all traytors, rebels, as well peers, as commons in Ireland, to the laws, statutes, and trials by juries of good and lawfull men of England, in the Kings Bench at Westminster, for treasons perpetuated by them in Ireland, or any foreign country out of the realm of England. Being an argument at law made in the Court of Kings Bench, Hil. 20 Caroli Regis, in the case of Connor Magwire, an Irish baron ... fully proving; that Irish peers, as well as commons may be lawfully tried in this court in England, by the statute of 35 H.8.c.2. for treasons committed by them in Ireland, by a Middlesex jury, and outed of a trial by Irish peers: which was accordingly adjudged, and he thereupon tried, condemned, executed as a traytor ... By William Prynne Esq; a bencher of Lincolnes Inne.	Prynne, William, 1600-1669.	1658 (1658)	Wing P4090; Thomason E945_5; ESTC R203350	65,819	94

Irish Commons else they should be in far better condition than English or Scotish Peers and quite exempted out of this Act. Now the same words that bring English-Peers within this Law must of necessity hook in Irish-Peers too there being no clause which exempts or includes the one more than the other 5ly The very letter intent and scope of this Act as appears by the body of it and likewise by the Statutes of 26 H. 8. c. 13. 5 6 E. 6. c. 11. to the same effect was to make all Treasons done or commiteed out of England by any person or persons whatsoever tryable in England either before the Justices in this Court or * before special Commissioners in some other Counties but to be still tryable within this Realm as the words All manner of Treasons hereafter to be done perpetrated or committed by any person or persons out of the Realm of England shall be from henceforth enquired of head and determined before the Kings Justices of his Bench c. clearly resolve in direct terms Therefore to make the Treasons of Irish-Peers committed in Ireland or elsewhere tryable here in England as well as the Treasons of English-Peers or Irish-Commoners And to send them back into Ireland to be there tryed by their Peers when once they are here in Prison and indicted in this Court by exempting them out of this Act contrary to the very letter and intent of the Law is to run point-blank against the very words and meaning of this Law and the Law-makers Therefore he must by this Act be tryed at this Bar and that by an ordinary Jury only as I shall prove anon 6ly The very scope and sole purport of this Act is not to make new Treasons or Traytors which were none before but to bring real Traytors only for Treasons formerly made or hereafter to be made and declared Treasons by the Laws and Statutes of this Realm to exemplary punishment in this Kingdome for the peace and preservation of the King Realm and the better execution of Justice the very life of Laws upon Delinquents only of the highest rank for the most transcendent crimes of High Treasons of misprision or concealments of Treasons not for Felonies or petit Treasons Which consideration must necessarily induce us for the common good to give it the largest fullest and most equitable constraction that may be Thus the Judges in former times have always interpreted it as appears by Dyer f. 132 298. Cookes 7. Rep. Calvins Case f. 23. a. his first Institut on Littleton f. 26. his 3 Instit. p. 24. and in Orourkes case wherein the Judges resolved 1. That the Statute of 1 Mar. Sess. 1. repealing all former Treasons but those within 25 E. 3. and of 1 2 Phil. and Mar. c. 10. enacting That all Tryals hereafter to be had for any Treason shall be had and used only according to the due course of the Common-law of this Realm and not otherwise exend not to the taking way of forem Treasons or their tryals by this Law And in Orourks case they extended it by equity beyond and in some sort against the letter of the Law it self for he standing mute and refusing his Tryal was thereupon condemned and executed for a Treason committed by him in Ireland though the words of the Statute are The Treason shall be enquired of heard and determined before the Justices of the Kings Bench by good and lawfull men of the same Shire where the said Bench shall sit and the Act speaks nothing at all of standing mute But this being a publique Law for the Common good to bring Traytors only to their Tryal and just punishment his refusal to put himself upon his Tryal was adjudged to be a determination and conviction of his Treasons within the Act else any Traytor by standing mute might evade and frustrate this good Law If then this Statute may thus be construed by equity and dilated beyond the words to one who stands mute for a Treason done in Ireland much more may it be extended to a treason by an Irish-Peer who is fully within the words and intent of it as I have already manifested And it would be a most pernicious gloss which should either elude or nullifie this beneficial publique Law 7ly It is clearly resolved in and by our Parliaments 13 E. 1. Proem. 13 E. 1. of Statute Merchants 21 E. 3. rot parl. n. 67. in the Statute of 5 H. 5. ch. 6. in divers of our * Law-books That Acts of Parliaments made in England wherein Ireland is either specially named or generally and necessarily included do bind those in Ireland both Commoners or Peers alike This therefore being such a Law extending and binding those in Ireland as hath been resolved in the forecited Cases it must certainly bind both the Peers and Commons of Ireland to a Tryal at this Bar for Treasons done in Ireland when the King and Kingdom deem it necessary or expedient to try them here in England 8ly The Proviso in this Act for tryal of Treasons done out of this Realm by Peers within the same extends only in positive terms to Peers of this Realm of England because they only are Peers within England and so only tryable by their Peers for forein Treasons within the same not to Peers of Ireland who are no Peers at all nor tryable by their Peers within this Realm of England Therefore this Proviso extending only to Peers of this Realm excludes all other forein Peers whether Irish or Scots from any tryal by their Peer● in England for Treasons acted out of it 9ly There is very great reason why Natural Irish Peers and Barons should be within the compass of this Law as well as Commoners and rather they than any other forein Peers because as our * Historians the Irish Annals Statutes and our Records do testifie ever since their conquest by K. Henry the 2d and submission to the Kings of England they have frequently almost every year in most Kings Reigns broken footh into private petit or general Rebellions and Insurrections against the English as I could instance in sundry particulars in which Rebellions I commonly find a Magwire a Mao-Mahon and Oneal in the van as Ring-leaders of all the rest as they were in this last Rebellion wherein most of the native Irish Peers and greatest septs have been deeply engaged as principal Conspiratours Among other Rebellions I find in Story and which is more authentick in the express Statute made in the Parliament at Dublin in Ireland anno 28 H. 8. c. 1. but 7 years before this Law That Gerald Fitz Gerald Earl of Kyldare the Earl of Desmond with divers other of the Irish Peers and Gentry conspiring together to extirpate the English and deprive the King of his Soveraignty in Ireland did send to the French King the Emperour and Bishop of Rome for ayd and assistance for taking the same Land out of the Kings and

Parliament in the same Land and brought with them Irish Servants to the Parliaments and Counsels there holden whereby the privities of the Englishmen within the same Land have been and be daily discoverd within it to the Irish people Rebels to the King to the great perill and mischief of the Kings lawfull liege people in the same Land And the Statute of 10 H. 7. in Ireland c. 16. enacts That the Spiritual and temporal Lords of the Land of Ireland shall appear in every Parliament holden in that Land in their Parliament Robes in like manner and form as the Lords of the Realm of England appear in the Parliaments holden within the said Realm under pain of forfeiting 100 s. to the King which use of Robes they had there for penury omitted by the space of 20 or 24 years But there is no mention of any Tryal by their Peers in these or any other English or Irish Statutes but those forecited of 2 Eliz. c. 1. 6. Yea the Statute of 25 H. 6. in Ireland c. 28 enacts For that there is a Law established that every Lord that is called a Lord of the Parliament in all pleas personal as well as real in which amerciaments do lye shall be amerced 100 s. to the great impoverishment of the said Lords for as much as their livings are diminished and wasted by war That no Lord of Parliament shall be amerced from thence forward in the said pleas otherwise than other persons notwithstanding any Law made before to the contrary The amerciaments therefore of Irish Lords and Commons being alike by this Law it is very probable their tryals by Jurie were both alike and that they were not tryed by their Peers Now the Prisoners councel have pleaded in his plea that Magna Charta gives the tryal by Peers in Ireland and no other Law but it and that it was not accepted received confirmed and used as a Law in Ireland till the Statute of 10 H. 7. and the words thereof if it be confirmed by that Act are most clear in it That all Statutes late made c. from henceforth be deemed accepted usea and executed within this Realm of Ireland in all points And if it were made a Law there by the Statute 8 E. 4. c. 1. which I rather believe the words of that Act are That from henceforth all other Statutes and Acts made by authority of Parliament in England be ratified confirmed and adjudged by authority of this Parliament in their force and strength from the sixth day of March So as Magna Charta was not a general Law in force use acceptance or execution in Ireland at least amongst the Irish till 8 E. 4. or 10 H. 7. as is evident by these Acts Because I would leave nothing concealed or unanswered that might make for the prisoners advantage I must acknowledge that King Henry the 3d. in the first year of his Reign sent a Roll of the liberties which his Father King Iohn and he had granted to this Realm of England unto Ireland out of his special grace by unanimous consent of all his Lieges and confirmed the same to all his Spiritual and Temporal Lords and faithfull Subjects there for their fidelity to him and his Father to them and their Heirs for ever as a signal bedge of his favour by this patent * Rex Archiepiscopis Episcopis Abbatibus Comitibus Baronibus Militibus et libere tenentibus et omnibus fidelibus suis per Hiberniam constitutis Salutem Fidelitatem vestram in Domino commendantes quam Domino patri nostro semper exhibuistis et Nobis estis diebus nostris exhibiti volumus quod in signum fidelitatis vestrae tàm prae●lare ●am insigniter Libertatibus Regno nostro Angliae a patre nostro et nobis concessis de gratia nostra et dono in Regno nostro Hiberniae gaudiatis vos et vestri imperpetuum Qu●● distincte in Rotulum redactas decommune consilio omnium fidelium nostrorum vobis mittimus signatas sigillo Domini Gu●●onis Apostolicae sedis Legati et fidelifsimi nostri Willielmi Marescalli * Rectoris nostri et Regni nostri quia sigillum nondum babuimus easdem processu temporis majorum constlio proprio sigillo firmandas Teste apud Gloverniam 3 die Februari he being * c. owned but on the 28 of October before at Gloucester where this Patent bears date After which King Henry having ratified the Great Charter of Liberties in England in the 9th year of his reign printed in all our Statutes Books and in Cooks 2 Institutes in the 12 year he commanded it to be published openly in Ireland by his Writ * Rex dilecto et fideli suo R. Burgo Iustic. suo Hiberniae salutem Mandamus vobis firmiter praecipientes quatenus certo die loco faciatis venire coram vobis Archiepiscopos Episcopos Abbates Priores Comites Barones Milites et libere tenentes Ballivos singulorum Comitatuum et coram eis publice legifaciati Cartam Dom. Regis Johannis patris nostri cui sigillum suum appen●um est quani fieri fecit jurari a Magnatibus Hiberniae de legibus consuetudinibus Angliae observandis in Hibernia Et praecipiatis eis ex parte nostra quod leges illas et consuetudines in Carta praedicta contentas de caetero firmiter teneant observent Hoc idem per singulos Comiratus Hiberniae clamari faciatis et teneri Prohibentes firmiter ex parte nostra et super forisfacturam nostram ne quis contra hoc mandatum nostrum venire praesumat eo excepto quod non de morte nec de catallis Hibernensium occasione nichil stauatur ex parte nostra citra quindecem dies a die St. Michaelis anno r. n. 12. super quo respectum de dedimus Magnatibus nostris Hiberniae usque ad terminum praedictnm Teste m●ipso apud Westm. 8 die Maii anno 12. In Cooks 3 Instit. f. 141. b. 4 Instit. p. 3●9 b. in 18 H. 3. Rot pat m. 17. n. 21. There is mantion made of Consuetudines Leges Reg●i nostri Angliae quas bonae memoriae Dominus Johannis Rex pater noster de communi omnium de Hibernia consensu teneri statuit in terra illa Teste Rege apud Winch. 28 die Octob. In the 30th year of Henry the third all Laws and Customs of England were established in Ireland by this * Patent Quia pro communi utilitate terrae Hiberniae pro unitats terrarum Rex vul et de Communi Consilio Regnt provisum est quod omnes Leges et consuetudines quae in regno Angliae tenentur in Hibernia teneantur et eadem terra eisdem legibus subjaceat et per easdem regatur sicut Johan Rex cum ultimo esset in Hibernia statuit et strmiter mandavit Ideo volumus quod omnia Brevia de communi sure quae currunt

be admitted or granted in case of tryal by Peers it being the usual antient a tryal in all Cases between the King and ordinary Subjects between man and man Peers and Commoners both in all civil and criminal causes whatsoever it is and will be every way as just as beneficial to a Peer in point of Law as a Tryal by twelve Peers upon their Honours only b without oath And the exchange only of the form of Tryal by twelve indifferent English Gentlemen of quallity upon their oaths for twelve Irish Peers of English blood nominated and appointed only by the King or his c Lord Deputy of Ireland upon their Honours without oath in this case of necessity can be no injustice injury or prejudice to the Irish Peers in general nor yet to the Prisoner in particular The rather if we consider First That every Indictment by which an English or Irish Peer is or can be tryed must first be proved before a grand Jury of Commons as this very Statute prescribes and found by them upon Oath not by a Jurie of Peers which is a kind of preparatory trial of a Peer by Jury without which there can be no proper tryal by Peers as is resolved Cooks 3 Institutes p. 28 30 31 32. 1 H 4. 1. 2ly That in Cases of Appeal brought by a common person ●or murder rape robberie or the like and likewise in case of a Premunire against an English Peer where his life is not brought into question he shall not be tried by his Peers but by an ordinary Jury as other men Trial of Peers by Peers being onlie in cases of Indictments for Treasons or Felonies at the Kings sute and no other as is clear by the Statute of Magna Charta c. 29. Neither will we pass upon him or condemn him without the lawfull judgement of his Peers c. the words onlie of the King not of the Commons In this our Books are express in point all cited in Sir Edw. Cooks 2 Institutes on this verie Chapter of Magna Charta cap. 29. in his pleas of the Crown or 3 Instit. c. 2. p. 30 31. 20 Ed. 4. 6. b. Now this case in question concerning not onlie the King but the whole Kingdome of England and Ireland and those manie thousands of Common persons whose innocent blood hath been shed in Ireland by him and his Confederate Rebels crying out for vengeance and Justice against him without delay he may thereupon be justly tried by an ordinary Jurie of Commons as well as in Case of an Appeal of murder brought by a common person 3ly Peers of Parliament even of this Realm not by inherent Nobility and Birth right but only in right of their Baronies which they hold in auter Droit as Arch-Bishops Bishops Abbots Priors and the like shall not be tried by their Peers for treasons or felonies at the Kings sute but onlie by an ordinary Jurie as Archbishop Scroope of York Cramner Arch-bishop of Canterbury * Adam de Orlton or Tarlton Bishop of Hereford Mark Bishop of Carlile Fisher Bishop of Rochester and others were tried 3 Ed. 3. f. 6. Kelwaies Reports f. 184. Stamfords Pleas of the Crown f. 135. Cromptons Jurisdiction of Courts f. 12. 19. Hall● Chron 6 H. 4. f. 25. Coo. 3 Instit. f. 36. Now if these verie English Peers to whom Magna Charta was immediatelie granted by name of Arch-Bishops Bishops Abbots being the first persons mentioned in the Prologue and ch. 1. 29 of this Charter shall be outed of their peerage in these Cases of Indictment at the Kings sute though within the very letter of Magna Charta because they are no Peers of England by blood or birth-right but in right of their Churches then a fortiori Irish Peers shall be deprived of their Peerage by this special Act who are not within the letter or intent of Magna Charta never made for them but for English Noble blood And if it be neither injustice nor injurie nor inconvenience to deprive these Ecclesiastical English Peers of a trial by Peers in cases of Treason or felony at the Kings sute though within the letter of Magna Charta and to try them by an indifferent Jurie of Freeholders It cannot be reputed any injustice injury rejudice or inconvenience at all now to out this Irish Peer of his Peerage here where he is no native Peer for such an horrid Treason as this 4ly Irish Peers are no Peers at all in England upon which account and reason if they commit Treason herein they shall be tried by an ordinarie Jury Therefore to try them onlie by Freeholders no● by Peers in England can be no injurie nor dishonour to their Peerage unless it were in Ireland where they are Peers and yet have been seldome or never hitherto tried there by their Peers as I have proved 5ly The verie Statutes of Ireland it self made by the Peers and Commons thereof to prevent manie mischiefs by Theeves Murderers and Rebells in that Realm do deprive both the Lords Commons there of any legal trial at all both for their lives and estates too witness the Statutes of 28 H. 6. c. 1. 3 5 E. 4. c. 2. expose them to the judgement slaughter plunder of particular men in some cases authorizing all manner of men that find any theeves robbing breaking up houses by day or night or going or comming to rob or steal having no faithfull man of good name and fame in their company in English apparel to take and kill those * Theeves and cut off their heads without endictment or Jury and seise their Goods without any impeachment of the King his Heirs Officers or any other for which they are to receive a sum of mony from every plow-Plow-land and person of estate within the Barony where they shall slay and behead such Theeves And 25 H. 6. c. 4 5. If any English men shall have any hair or beard upon his upper lip like the Irish it shall be lawfull for every man to take their Goods as Irish Enemies and to ransome them as Enemies And if any Irish Enemy received to the Kings allegiance shall afterwards rob spoyl and destroy the Kings Liege people it shall be lawfull for every Liege-man that may meet with him afterwards to do with him and his Goods and Chattels as to Enemies who were never Liege and to ransome them at their free will without any impeachment of the Law And Ch. 6. If any men except Knights Prelates shall wear gilded Bridle Pestrels or other harneys that it shall be lawfull to every man that will to take the said man his horse and harnesse and to possess the same as his own Goods without endictment or legal tryal All which would be monstrous in England Therfore it is much more legal and just and no injurie at all to try the Prisoner an Arch-Rebel in England in this time of war and combustion in Ireland for his Treasons there

Rebels power Tumults in that Realm he could not conveniently undergo So I humbly pray on the behalf of the King Kingdome Parliament and our whole English Nation to all which he hath been such a capital Traytor and Enemy that this Plea of his may presently be over-ruled and himself brought to his speedy Tryal Iudgement and execution for his unparallel'd Treasons and the blood of those many thousands of innocent English Protestants shed in Ireland upon this occasion which cries for Justice and Execution against him without further delay The rather because nulli differemus Justiciam is one clause of that very Act of Magna Charta ca. 29. which he hath pleaded in bar of his Tryal of which I pray both he and the whole Kingdom may now enjoy the benefit by his undelayed Tryal and execution too in Case he shall be found guilty of the Treasons for which he stands indicted of which there is little doubt since so fully confessed by himself in a writing under his own hand and we are ready to make them good against him as we have already done against his Confederate Mac-Mahon by the Testimony of a clowd of honorable pregnant witnesses in case he shall deny it After two Arguments at the Bar on both sides of this Case Justice Bacon argued it himself and delivered his opinion and judgement against the Prisoners plea that though he be a Baron of Ireland yet he was triable for his Treason by a Middlesex Jury in the Kings Bench and outed of his Peerage by 35 H. 8. c. 2. Which Iudgement was approved by this Order of both Houses of Parliament Die Lunae 10 Febr. 1644. Ordered by the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled That the said Houses do approve of the judgment given by Master Justice Bacon in over-ruling the Plea of the Lord Magwire and of the manner of the Tryal by the Indictment of High Treason in the Kings Bench And the Judge is hereby required to proceed speedily thereupon according to Law and Iustice John Brown Cler. Parl. Henry Elsing Cler. Parl. D. C. Upon which on Monday Febr. 10. 1644. he was brought from the Tower of London to the Kings Bench Bar there arraigned where putting himself upon his trial he challenged 23 of the Jury which appeared peremptorily Whereupon a Distring as was awarded to the Sheriff of Middlesex to retorn Quadrag●nta Tales the next day of whom he challenged 12 more peremptorily And being tryed by twelve of the residue retorned against whom he had no legal exception nor challenge he was upon his own Confessions and pregnant evidence of 15 Witnesses Persons of Quality found guilty of the Treasons for which he was indicted and thereupon Febr. 11. was adjudged tobe drawn to Tyburn and there hanged by the Neck and cut down alive and then his Bowels to be taken out and there burnt before his Face his Head to be cut off and his body to be divided into four Quarters and then to be disposed as the Parliament shall appoint Which was accordingly executed the 20th of Febr. Even so let all such perfidious bloody Traytors perish TO fill up the vacant pages of this Sheet I shall annex this one Record and also one Irish Act being both very pertinent to my Argument Pat. 1 E. 1. m. 20. Hibernia Venerabili in Christo Patri eadem gratia Midden Episcopo Dilectis fidelibus suis Mauricio filio Mauricii Justiciario suo Hibern et Magistro Johanni de Saumford Escaetori suo Hibern salutem Cum de●uncto jam celebris memoriae Domino H. Rege pa●re nostro cujus animae propicietur altissimus ad nos Regni Angliae gubernacu● et terrae Hibern Dominium per●ineant ob quod Praelati Comites Pro●eres as Communit●s Regni nostri nobis tanquam Domino suo ligio et Regi fidelitat●s Juramentum omnia alia quae nobis rations Coronae dignitatis Regiae ab ipsis fieri praestari nobis in absentia nostra poterunt plenariè sine omissione aliqua prompto liben●i animo praestiter int Ac Archiepiscopi Episcopi Abbates Priores Comites Barones Milites libere tenentes ac tota Communi as terrae nostrae Hiberniae nobis tanquam * Regi Domino suo ligio consimile sacramentum fidelitatis praest are teneantur Dedimus vobis potestatem recipiendi nomine nostro fidelitatem ipsorum Ita tamen quod si vos omnes interesse nequiveritis tune duo vel unus ●estrum qui praesens fuerunt nichilominus plenariam habeat potestatem rec●p●endi nomine nostr● fidelitatem ipsorum in forma praedict● Et ideo vobis mandamus quod fidelitatem praedictam nomine nostro recipiatis prout melius videbitis expedire In cuju● c. Dat. per manum W. de Merton C●nc apud Westm. VII die Decembris 33 H. 8. c. 1. made in Ireland An Act that the King and his Successors to be Kings of IRELAND FOrasmuch as the King our most gracious dread soveraign Lord his Graces mostnoble progenitors Kings of England have been Lords of this Land of Ireland having all manner kingly jurisdiction power preeminences and authority royal belonging or appertaining to the royal Estate and Majesty of a King by the name of Lord of Ireland where the Kings Majestie and his noble Progenitors justly and rightfully were and of right ought to be Kings of Ireland and so to be reputed taken named and called and for lack of naming the Kings Majesty and his noble Progenitors Kings of Ireland according to their said true and just Title Stile and Name therein hath been great occasion that the Irishmen and Inhabit ants within this Realm of Ireland have not been so obedient to the Kings Highness and his most noble Progenitors and to their Laws as they of right and according to their allegiance and bounden duties ought to have been Wherefore at the humble pursute petition and request of the Lords spiritual and temporal and other the Kings loving faithfull and obedient Subjects of this Land of Ireland and by their full assents Be it enacted ordained and esta blished by this present Parliament● That the Kings Highnesse his Heirs and Successors Kings of England be alwaies Kings of this Land of Ireland and that his Majesty his heirs and Successors have the name stile title and honor of King of this Land of Ireland with all manner of honors preheminences prerogatives dignities and other things whatsoever they be to the Estate and Majesty of a KING appertaining or belonging and that his Majesty his Heirs and Successors be from henceforth named called accepted reputed and taken to be Kings of the Land of Ireland to have hold and enjoy the said stile title majesty and honors of the King of Ireland with all manner preheminence prerogative dignities and all other the premises unto the Kings Highnesse his Heirs and Successors for ever as united and knit to the Imperial Crown of

Authority of this Parliament in their force and strength from the said 6th day of March So that this Law if any at all confirmed Magna Charta and all the Statutes made by Authority of Parliament in England to be in force and use in Ireland yet only as to the English Irish Subjects under the Kings obedience and none else as I have proved and this Statute of 10 H. 7. which confirms only the Statutes lately made must and doth in truth and reason relate only to the Laws made in England since that Statute of 8 E. 4. c. 1. not formerly there confirmed by that Act so that the Prisoners Plea That Magna Charta was confirmed by 10 H. 7. is but a meer mistake and a void Plea neither are the Judges here bound to take notice of this Irish Act of 8 E. 4. c. 1. unless pleaded by the Prisoner being no Law of this Kingdom and not binding here 2. Because the forementioned Charters of * 6 Joh. 12. and 30 H. 3. c. confirming the use of the Laws of the Realm of England in Ireland did not extend to settle Magna Charta there at least wise not as to the benefit of the natural Irish but to the English and the Irish within the English Pale alone as is agreed by Sir Ed. Cook and in a manner resolved by this Act of 10 H. 7. as the words thereof From henceforth be deemed good and effectual in the Law and over that be used accepted and executed within the Land of Ireland in all points at all times requisite import And if those Charters extended not to Magna Charta which are fuller then this Act I doubt this Law will hardly do it 3ly Admit the Law of 10 H. 7. extends to Magna Charta in some particulars thereof formerly used in Ireland yet it reacheth not to the trying of Irish Peers by their Peers now in question for these ensuing Reasons 1. Because trial of Irish Peers by their Peers in Ireland was never used nor heard of nor is there any one instance to be found before or since Magna Charta till 10 H. 7. which there setled that great Charter for a Law nor from 10 H. 7. till 35 H. 8. nor since that but of late in one case only about twenty yeers since till this instant Now what Littleton notes of the Statute of Merton * Sect. 108. That no action can be brought upon that Statute for a disparagement for that since the making of it it was never seen nor heard that any such Action was brought upon it against the Guardian and if any Action might have been brought upon this matter it will be intended that sometime it would have been put in ure The like shall I say concerning Magna Charta and the trial of Irish Peers by their Peers in Ireland That if the trying of Irish Peers by their Peers had been the common Law of Ireland or if Magna Charta and 10 H. 7. had established it there for a Law it would some time or other have been there put in ●re and some Peers there would have claimed and enjoyed this their priviledge in point of Trial but since it was never yet in use there for ought I finde nor any one can prove before 35 H. 8. I cannot deem it the common Law nor Priviledge of the Peers of Ireland but the peculiar Priviledge of our English Peers both by the common Statute-Law and great-Charter of England and no trial of right incident to Irish Peers as it is to English Therefore this kinde of Trial neither is confirmed to nor intended to be conferred on Irish Peers by Magna Charta which is but a confirmation only of our * common Laws of England and no introduction of any new Law here and so should introduce no new Law there but confirm the common Laws and Customes there formerly used and so the Tryal by Peers is not there setled in respect of the Irish Peers by the Statute of 10 H. 7. Now that which principally confirms me in this opinion is the two special Acts of Parliament made in Ireland in 2 Eliz. c. 1. 6. * already cited which create a special form of tryal of Irish Peers not by their Peers there of Irish blood but by their Peers of that Realm of the English blood alone only in the new Treasons and Premunires specified in and created by those two Acts but in no other Treasons Which clauses had been merely nugatory and superfluous had the Tryal of Irish Peers in Ireland by Irish Peers been the birth-right and known priprivilege of Irish Peers either by the Common law there used or by the Custome of Ireland or by Magna Charta with this Act of 10 H. 7. confirming it It therefore never being the intent of this Act nor of Magna Charta to grant any new privilege or form of Tryal to Irish Peers which they never formerly enjoyed neither the one nor other will sufficiently support the Prisosoners plea nor indulge him any tryal here or there by his Peers of Ireland at least of Irish blood for so horrid a Treason as this Which I hope is a satisfactory answer to this objection since Custome is the best Expositer of all antient Laws as Sir Edw. Cook declares in his Commentary on Littleton sect. 108. f. 81. b. 4ly Admit the Objection true That Magna Charta extends to Ireland by vertue of this Act of 10 H. 7. so far as to give Irish Peers in Ireland though not of the English Pale a trial by their Peers which they had not before its confirmation there yet then I answer That this Statute of 35 H. 8. ch. 2 upon which the Prisoner is arraigned by making all Treasons done and perpetrated in Ireland triable in England when there is just occasion as now there is in this time of a universal horrid Rebellion and in sundry other forementioned respects repeals this Clause of Magna Charta and deprives the Prisoner of the benefit of his Peerage if at all conferred on him by it and the Act of 10 H. 7. Since it is most certain that Statutes made in the Parliaments of England being the supreme Kingdom and Court to which Ireland its Courts are subordinate and whose erronious judgements in their High Courts and Parliaments there were only reversible here in England in the Kings Bench and Parliament of England as is evident by Claus. 7. H. 3. par 2. m. 10. and Claus. 29. E. 3. m. 12. 8 H. 6. rot Parl. ● 69. Cooks 4 Instit. p. 356. Mr. St. Johns Argument at Law at Straffords Attainder p. 58 61. K●ilway f. 202. b. Br. Error 127. Fitz. Nat. Bre. f. 24. Co. 7 Rep. f. 18. a Calvins Case do oblige those of Ireland not only before but ever since 10 H. 7. when Ireland is either particularly named or generally included as is agreed by Rastals Abri●gement title Ireland 11 E. 3. chap. 2. and 10 E.