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A02548 The honor of the married clergie, maintayned against the malicious challenges of C.E. Masse-priest: or. The apologie written some yeeres since for the marriage of persons ecclesiasticall made good against the cauils of C.E. pseudo-Catholik priest. In three books. By Ios. Hall, D. of Diuin. Deane of Worcest. Hall, Joseph, 1574-1656.; Erasmus, Desiderius, d. 1536. An liceat sacerdotibus inire matrimonia. 1620 (1620) STC 12674; ESTC S119011 135,526 384

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Emperour his peruerting of the Lawes both of God and Men his false doctrines sacriledges periuries lyes murders by him suborned and commended his tyrannie his setting of discord betwixt Brethren Friends Cousins It followes Inter coniuges diuortia facit suauis homo sacerdotes qui vxores habent legitimos sacrificos esse pernegat interim tamen scortatores adulteros incestuosos aris admouet c. He causes diuorces betwixt Man and Wife The fine man denyes those Priests which haue lawfull wiues to be Priests at all in the meane time he admits to the Altar whore-mongers adulterers incestuous persons c. Nos ergo We therefore by the authoritie of Almightie God pronounce him deposed from his Popedome Thus Auentine specifies the Decree which alone without Commentarie without inforcement answeres all the friuolous exceptions of my wordy Aduersarie So as now to returne his Epilogue hee hath sent backe my ten pretended lyes with the vnreasonable and inuerted vsurie of well-neere an hundred Pauperis est numerare SECT IX FRom forraine parts I returne at last to our owne so I feare hath C. E. done long since lurking somewhere in England for no good These Fugitiues loue not home more then their home hath cause to hate them His Cauils of the wondrous contradiction betwixt my Margin and my Text are too childish to bee honored with an answere My Text was The bickerings of our English Clergie with their DVNSTANS about this time are memorable My Margin cites Henry of Huntingdon affirming Anselme to bee the first that forbad marriage Betwixt these two saith my Refuter was an hundred yeeres difference I grant it But had my words beene thus if my Detector were not disposed to seeke a knot in a Rush hee had easily noted that in a generall suruay of all Ages the phrase About that time admits much latitude and wil easily stretch without any strayne to one whole Centurie of yeeres Had the Quotation beene as he pleadeth this answere were sufficient But my words need no such reconciliation I stand to the censure and disclaime the mercy of any Reader For that citation of Anselme hath plaine reference to the following words Our Histories testifie how late how repiningly our Clergie stooped vnder this yoke it is for this that my Margin points to Henry Huntingdon and Fabian reporting Anselme the first man that prohibited these marriages What contradiction now can his acutenesse detect in these two The English Clergie had bickerings with their Dunstans and stooped late and repiningly to this yoke vnder Anselme See Reader and admire the equal Truth and Logique of a Catholique Priest and iudge how well hee bestoweth his Pages SECT X. IT is true Dunstan was the man who first with his other two Cousins and Partners in Canonization opposed any appendance of the married Clergie He wrought it with good K. Edgar by dreames and visions and miracles He who when the Deuill came to tempt him to lust caught him by the Nose with an hot paire of Tongs and made him rore out for mercy supposed that euery Clergie man had the same Irons in the fire and therefore blew the Coles to that good King of the dislike of these Clericall marriages and with the same breath inkindled the zeale of Monkerie The Church wherein I am now interessed and wherein I doe by the prouidence of God and the bounty of my gracious Master succeede their Saint Oswalds Priors yeelds me sufficient records hereof which because they are both worthy of publike light and giue no smal light to the businesse in hand I haue thought good here to insert Nomina Fundatorum Ecclesiae Wigorniensis Tempore Ethelredi Regis c. constituta est sedes Episcopalis Wigorn Bosel Episcopus primus Septimus decimus Sanctus Oswaldus tempore cuius Edgarus Rex dedit Mediante verò Beato Oswaldo à Clericis in Monachos translata est sedes Pontificalis honoris Then followes the Charter of King Edgar founding the Monkes with this Title Carta Regis EADGARI de OSWALDES LAW ALTITONANTIS Dei largifluâ Clementiâ qui est Rex Regum Dominus Dominantium Ego EADGARVS Anglorum Basileus omnium Regum Insularum Oceani quae Britanniam circumiacent cunctarumque Nationum quae infra eam includuntur Imperator Dominus gratias ago ipsi Deo Omnipotenti Regi meo qui meum Imperium sic ampliauit exaltauit super regnum Patrum meorum Quapropter ego Christi gloriam laudem in regno meo exaltare eius seruitium amplificare deuotus disposui per meos fideles fautores DVNSTANVM videlicet Archiepiscopum ATHELWOLDVM ac OSWALDVM Episcopos quos mihi Patres spirituales consiliarios elegi magna ex parte secundum quod disposui perfeci Et ipsis supradictis meis cooperatoribus strenuè annitentibus iam XL. VII Monasteria cum Monachis Sanctimonialibus constitui si Christus vitam mihi tam diu concesserit vsque ad quinquagessimum remissionis numerum meae deuotae Deo munificentiae oblationem protendere decreui Vnde nunc in praesenti Monasterium quod praedictus reuerendus Episcopus OSWALDVS in sede Episcopali Wereceastre in honorem Sanctae Dei genitricis MARIae amplificauit eliminatis Clericorum nenijs spurcis lasciuijs religiosis Dei seruis Monachis meo consensu fauore suffultus locauit Ego ipsis Monasticae religionis viris Regali authoritate confirmo consilio astipulatione Principum Optimatum meorum corroboro consigno ita vt iam amplius non sit fas neque ius Clericis reclamandi quicquam ind● quippe qui magis elegerunt cum sui ordinis periculo Ecclesiastici beneficij dispendi suis vxoribus adhaerere quàm Deo castè canonicè seruire Et ideo cuncta quae illi de Ecclesia possederant cum ipsâ Ecclesiâ siue Ecclesiastica siue Secularia tam mobilia quàm immobilia ipsis Dei seruis Monachis ab hac die perpetualiter Regiae munificentiae iure deinceps possidenda trado consigno ita firmiter vt nulli Principum nec etiam vlli Episcopo succedenti fas sit aut licitum quicquam inde subtrahere aut peruadere aut ab eorum potestate surripere in Clericorum ius iterum traducere quamdiu fides Christiana in Angliâ perdurauerit Sed dimidium Centuriatum c. In the end dated thus Facta sunt haec Anno Dominicae Natiuitatis D. CCCC.LXIIII Indictione VIII Regni EADGARI Anglorum Regis 6. in Regia vrbe quae ab incolis Glouceastre nominatur in Natale Domini In English thus BY the bountifull mercie of Almightie GOD● which is King of Kings and Lord of Lords I Edgar King of England and of all the Kings of the Ilands of the Ocean lying about Britanie and of all the Nations that are included within it Emperour and Lord doe giue thankes to Almightie God my King which hath inlarged my Empire and
their Wiues though caution is put in for the future What doth this imply but that in those ancient Times the English Clergie were inoffensiuely married To which adde that olde Record from an ancient Martyrologe of the Church of Canterbury LANFRANCVS Archiepiscopus reddidit Ecclesiae Sancti ANDREae c. LANFRANCK Archbishop hath restord to Saint ANDREWES Church the Monasterie of Saint MARIE with the Lands and Houses which LIVINGVS Priest and his Wife had in London c. And before him or Dustan either in King Edmunds time Bishop Osulphus with Athelme and Vlrick Laicks thrust out of the Monkes of Euesham and placed Canons married Priests in their roome Lastly Iornalensis records it as King Ina's Law long before these times Si Episcopi filiolus sit sitdimidium hoc c. as supposing this no other then ordinarie in those times Now let my Refuter comfort himselfe and his Catholikes with the weake defence of Heresie and the strong Bulwarkes of Romane Truth who in the meane time must be put in minde that he puts on me the burden which should lye vpon his own shoulders I haue produced Histories which affirme peremptorily that the English Clergie were neuer forbidden to marrie vntil Anselmes time it is now his taske to disprooue this assertion of theirs by equall authoritie to the contrarie which till hee haue done the day is ours SECT XVII HIs fourth Ponderation is the difficultie of this grant in King Edwards Parliament And is it possible the man should not see the greater difficultie that was found in the inforcement of this glorious Celibate How Alfere and the Nobles dispossessed the Monkes of Dunstan iustly restoring the marryed Priests to their ancient right How Lanfranck durst not speake it out Anselme did but preuailed little Let Girardus then Archbishop of Yorke witnesse After whome Roger Archbishop of that See as Neubrigensis records thrust out Anselmes Monkes and stood for the libertie of Marriage in somuch as in the succession of Times euen by Royall leaue also Marriage of spirituall persons yet continued Neither could Anselmes Successours Radulphus Gulielmus de Turbine and the rest notwithstanding all their Canons and practices preuaile against it How plaine is that of the Saxon Chronicle Thus did the Archbishop of Canterburie and the Bishops which were in England And yet all these Decrees and biddings stood not All held their Wiues by the Kings leaue euen as they did Insomuch as Archbishop WILLIAM referr'd it to the King The King decreed that the Priests should continue with their Wiues still Neither were any thing more easie then to giue store of instances in this kinde What need I giue more then that of Galfride B. of Ely who was auouched before the Pope himself to haue maried a wife which Euangelical excuse vxorem duxit was made for his not appearing at Rome with the rest Of Richard Bishop of Chichester ROBERT Bishop of Lincolne marryed men after these Decrees yea good Euidences of Ancient Charts are readie in our hands to shew the vse and legall allowance of these Marriages for no lesse then two hundred yeeres after As for those idle wordes which his sawcinesse throwes after our reuerend Martyr Archbishop Cranmer whome hee falsly affirmes to haue beene the first marryed Archbishop of this Kingdome when as Archbishop Boniface sate marryed in that See three hundred yeeres before him and King Edwards Parliament we answere them with silence and scorne Let leesers haue leaue to talke The approbation and better expedience of single life in capable subiects we doe willingly subscribe vnto The lawfulnesse yea necessitie of Marriage where the gift of Continence is denyed our Sauiour and his chosen vessel iustifie with vs. So as I still conclude He that made marriage saith it is honorable what care we for the dishonor of those that corrupt it SECT XVIII HIs last ponderation is leaden indeed That from the bickerings of our English Clergy with their DVNSTANS it will not follow that continencie was not ancient but was repiningly lately vniustly imposed By this reason he will proue there was neuer Theefe or Malefactor in our Countrey before the time of King IAMES since all Iudges haue yeerely bickerings with such people Thus he But did euer such loose Besome sweep the presse before Reader vouchsafe yet once more to cast thine eye vpon the close of my Epistle Doth my argument run thus wildly as hee makes it The English Clergie had bickerings with their DVNSTANS therefore continencie was repiningly and vniustly imposed Canst thou thinke I haue met with a sober Aduersarie My words are That our Histories teach vs how late how repiningly how vniustly our English Clergie stooped vnder this yoke And what can his sophistrie make of this Are ye not ashamed ye Superiors of Doway are ye not ashamed of such a Champion fitter for a troupe of Pigmees to traile a reed in their bickerings with Cranes then to be committed with any reasonable or Scholler-like Antagonist In the bickerings with his Dunstans the Patients pleaded prescription as we haue shewed out of Malmesbury and taxed his Saints with nouelty In my bickerings with him I plead Antiquitie Scripture Reason and taxe him most iustly with impudence absurditie How well is that man that is matcht but with an honest Aduersary The Conclusion THe Conclusion followes a fit couer for such a dish The Reader was not wearie enough but hee must bee tyred out with a tedious recapitulation wherin my Refuter recollects all his dispersed folly that it may shew the fayrer Telling his Protestant friend what I haue bragged what I haue vndertaken what I haue not performed how I haue satisfied how I haue mistaken what himselfe hath in al passages performed against me how he hath answered how he hath conquered The best is the Conclusion can shew no more then the Premises By them let me be iudged Those haue made good to my Reader that C. E. hath accused much and proued nothing vanted much and done nothing rayled much and hurt nothing laboured much and gayned nothing talked much and said nothing It is a large and bold word but if any one clause of mine be vnproued if any one clause of mine be disproued any one exception against my defence proued iust any one charge of his proued true any one falshood of mine detected any one argument of mine refelled any one argument or propositiō of his not refelled Let me goe away conuicted with shame But if I haue answered euery Challenge vindicated euery authority iustified euery proofe wiped away euery cauill affirmed no proposition vntruely censured nothing vniustly satisfied all his malicious obiections and warranted euery sentence of my poore Epistle Let my Apologie liue and passe and let my Refuter goe as he is C. F. Cauillator Egregius Let my cause be no more victorious then iust and let honest Marriages euer hold vp their heads in despite of