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punish_v heretic_n this_o be_v good_a news_n for_o you_o and_o the_o blakloist_n mr._n walsh_n 9_o that_o neither_o the_o pope_n nor_o the_o he_o the_o friar_z walsh_n in_o his_o pag_n 430._o 1._o part_n of_o the_o first_o treatise_n say_v i_o do_v myself_o as_o i_o confess_v i_o be_o bind_v most_o religious_o allow_v the_o canonisation_n vencration_n and_o invocation_n of_o saint_n thomas_n of_o canterbury_n and_o all_o three_o of_o he_o as_o of_o a_o glerious_a martyr_n too_o and_o not_o with_o stand_v i_o allow_v also_o all_o the_o mercy_n raport_v of_o he_o general_n of_o regular_a order_n can_v inflict_v any_o corporal_a punishment_n upon_o their_o inferior_a priest_n or_o friar_n for_o the_o great_a misdemeanour_n or_o for_o write_v such_o folly_n as_o these_o of_o you_o be_v mr._n walsh_n this_o also_o may_v comfort_v you_o 10._o that_o notwithstanding_o supreme_a temporal_a prince_n can_v not_o in_o conscience_n or_o reason_n 429._o reason_n pag_n 429._o exempt_a clerk_n from_o 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