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which_o maintain_v that_o any_o private_a subject_n may_v lawful_o kill_v or_o murder_v the_o anoint_v of_o god_n his_o prince_n now_o let_v any_o one_o judge_n protestant_n or_o catholic_n whether_o these_o forementioned_a clause_n be_v not_o more_o or_o at_o least_o as_o expressive_a of_o civil_a allegiance_n as_o the_o ordinary_a oath_n be_v and_o if_o so_o then_o let_v they_o consider_v whether_o since_o catholic_n be_v ready_a to_o take_v any_o of_o the_o oath_n above_o mention_v they_o can_v rational_o be_v suspect_v to_o refuse_v the_o ordinary_a oath_n of_o allegiance_n for_o want_n of_o loyalty_n for_o do_v they_o refuse_v it_o upon_o that_o account_n they_o will_v not_o offer_v to_o take_v the_o abovesaid_a oath_n wherein_o as_o much_o or_o more_o civil_a allegiance_n be_v contain_v then_o in_o the_o ordinary_a oath_n and_o whether_o also_o probable_o speak_v we_o may_v not_o vehement_o suspect_v that_o protestant_n who_o will_v not_o be_v content_a that_o catholic_n shall_v 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any_o other_o religion_n that_o no_o protestant_n who_o will_v stick_v to_o the_o tenet_n of_o his_o religion_n can_v take_v though_o it_o will_v seem_v very_o irrational_a to_o deduce_v thence_o that_o protestant_n deny_v civil_a allegiance_n to_o his_o majesty_n if_o they_o be_v ready_a to_o take_v another_o oath_n wherein_o all_o civil_a allegiance_n be_v clear_o contain_v and_o if_o so_o why_o may_v not_o we_o refuse_v this_o oath_n by_o reason_n of_o some_o doubtful_a or_o false_a expression_n it_o contain_v or_o of_o some_o glance_n it_o have_v at_o our_o religion_n without_o therefore_o deserve_v to_o be_v impeach_v of_o disloyalty_n since_o we_o be_v ready_a to_o take_v other_o oath_n wherein_o as_o much_o or_o more_o civil_a allegiance_n be_v contain_v 52._o if_o they_o object_v four_o for_o the_o lawfulness_n of_o this_o oath_n the_o authority_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o france_n of_o the_o university_n and_o parliament_n of_o paris_n and_o of_o other_o university_n and_o 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constant_o deny_v the_o pope_n to_o have_v any_o authority_n or_o power_n direct_a or_o indirect_a to_o depose_v king_n and_o final_o of_o the_o french_a jesuit_n who_o subscribe_v the_o censure_n and_o condemnation_n of_o some_o book_n wherein_o that_o power_n be_v defend_v and_o why_o may_v not_o the_o catholic_n of_o england_n have_v the_o same_o liberty_n as_o the_o catholic_n of_o france_n have_v 53._o concern_v the_o authority_n of_o france_n for_o this_o oath_n object_v against_o we_o consider_v first_o that_o though_o in_o a_o assembly_n 1615._o hold_v in_o france_n of_o the_o three_o estate_n ecclesiastic_n nobility_n and_o commons_o in_o time_n of_o cardinal_n peron_n there_o be_v draw_v up_o 73._o a_o oath_n by_o the_o three_o estate_n or_o commons_o wherein_o be_v affirm_v 247._o that_o there_o be_v no_o power_n on_o earth_n either_o spiritual_a or_o temporal_a that_o have_v any_o right_n over_o his_o majesty_n be_v kingdom_n to_o depose_v the_o sacred_a person_n of_o our_o king_n nor_o to_o dispense_v with_o or_o absolve_v their_o subject_n from_o their_o loyalty_n and_o obedience_n which_o they_o owe_v to_o they_o for_o any_o cause_n or_o pretence_n whatsoever_o yet_o the_o two_o chief_a part_n of_o the_o assembly_n viz._n the_o 336._o spiritual_a and_o temporal_a lord_n be_v so_o much_o against_o this_o article_n of_o the_o oath_n that_o they_o be_v resolve_v especial_o the_o spiritual_a lord_n to_o die_v rather_o than_o take_v it_o and_o the_o three_o estate_n or_o commons_o who_o have_v draw_v it_o up_o after_o they_o have_v hear_v peron_n oration_n against_o it_o lay_v it_o aside_o which_o be_v as_o much_o as_o handsome_o to_o recall_v it_o and_o how_o can_v we_o reasonable_o say_v that_o the_o kingdom_n of_o france_n be_v for_o a_o oath_n which_o the_o two_o principal_a part_n of_o the_o assembly_n representative_a of_o that_o kingdom_n be_v so_o eager_a against_o and_o which_o the_o three_o part_n after_o serious_a consideration_n lay_v aside_o 54._o consider_v second_o that_o rather_o we_o may_v allege_v the_o kingdom_n of_o france_n for_o the_o negative_a or_o against_o the_o oath_n according_a to_o what_o happen_v in_o the_o assembly_n 173._o for_o it_o be_v a_o certain_a kind_n of_o argument_n against_o a_o thing_n when_o have_v be_v propose_v and_o debate_v in_o a_o assembly_n it_o be_v not_o carry_v but_o rather_o reject_v neither_o have_v there_o be_v since_o enact_v by_o any_o other_o assembly_n of_o france_n any_o oath_n of_o this_o kind_n to_o be_v tender_v unto_o all_o neither_o do_v our_o adversary_n pretend_v that_o any_o such_o thing_n have_v be_v do_v as_o our_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n be_v enact_v for_o all_o sort_n of_o people_n by_o our_o parliament_n which_o correspond_v to_o the_o assembly_n in_o france_n neither_o be_v there_o in_o france_n any_o other_o oath_n wherein_o be_v express_o deny_v the_o forementioned_a power_n establish_v by_o the_o king_n or_o any_o parliament_n or_o any_o other_o way_n for_o to_o be_v take_v by_o all_o such_o who_o swear_v allegiance_n to_o his_o most_o christian_n majesty_n and_o the_o english_a catholic_n be_v ready_a to_o take_v the_o oath_n of_o allegiance_n to_o his_o majesty_n which_o be_v general_o tender_v in_o france_n and_o why_o may_v not_o his_o majesty_n be_v content_a with_o the_o same_o kind_n of_o civil_a allegiance_n from_o his_o subject_n which_o the_o french_a king_n and_o other_o sovereign_n require_v from_o their_o subject_n all_o which_o show_v that_o france_n can_v reasonable_o be_v bring_v as_o a_o precedent_n in_o the_o cause_n we_o treat_v of_o 55._o consider_v three_o that_o since_o the_o representative_a of_o france_n have_v so_o much_o favour_v the_o negative_a though_o we_o shall_v grant_v and_o whether_o it_o must_v be_v grant_v or_o not_o we_o shall_v see_v by_o and_o by_o that_o some_o other_o particular_a tribunal_n or_o society_n of_o that_o kingdom_n have_v favour_v the_o contrary_a yet_o because_o the_o assembly_n or_o representative_a of_o france_n be_v far_o above_o those_o particular_a society_n we_o ought_v to_o conclude_v that_o france_n rather_o countenance_n the_o negative_a than_o the_o affirmative_a shall_v we_o see_v that_o our_o parliament_n do_v countenance_n so_o much_o the_o negative_a of_o a_o opinion_n as_o the_o forementioned_a assembly_n of_o france_n do_v countenance_v the_o refusal_n of_o that_o oath_n though_o some_o particular_a court_n at_o westminster_n or_o the_o university_n of_o oxford_n shall_v countenance_v the_o contrary_a we_o ought_v to_o say_v that_o england_n rather_o stand_v for_o the_o negative_a than_o the_o affirmative_a 56._o concern_v the_o authority_n of_o the_o parliament_n and_o university_n of_o paris_n in_o this_o point_n consider_v first_o that_o neither_o that_o parliament_n nor_o any_o other_o parliament_n of_o france_n neither_o that_o university_n nor_o any_o other_o university_n of_o that_o kingdom_n have_v ever_o yet_o make_v any_o public_a and_o authentic_a act_n wherein_o they_o approve_v our_o present_a oath_n of_o allegiance_n as_o it_o lie_v and_o all_o its_o clause_n wherein_o the_o difficulty_n thereof_o consist_v neither_o do_v our_o adversary_n pretend_v any_o such_o thing_n but_o only_o that_o the_o parliament_n and_o university_n of_o paris_n with_o some_o other_o parliament_n and_o university_n of_o france_n have_v make_v decree_n wherein_o they_o deny_v the_o pope_n to_o have_v any_o power_n whatsoever_o to_o depose_v king_n or_o to_o absolve_v their_o subject_n from_o the_o allegiance_n due_a unto_o they_o for_o any_o cause_n or_o under_o any_o pretence_n whatsoever_o yet_o hence_o do_v not_o follow_v that_o the_o parliament_n or_o university_n of_o that_o kingdom_n do_v approve_v this_o oath_n for_o to_o approve_v a_o oath_n it_o be_v necessary_a to_o approve_v all_o and_o every_o part_n thereof_o and_o who_o only_o approve_v one_o part_n do_v not_o therefore_o approve_v the_o whole_a so_o that_o whosoever_o argue_v hence_o to_o show_v the_o lawfulness_n of_o this_o oath_n his_o argument_n must_v run_v thus_o the_o university_n and_o parliament_n of_o paris_n approve_v some_o clause_n of_o this_o oath_n whereat_o several_a person_n do_v scruple_n therefore_o they_o approve_v the_o whole_a oath_n which_o argument_n be_v inconclusive_a as_o be_v manifest_a 57_o consider_v second_o that_o though_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o parliament_n and_o university_n of_o paris_n may_v work_v so_o far_o with_o some_o as_o to_o persuade_v they_o that_o this_o oath_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v refuse_v upon_o the_o account_n of_o any_o just_a scruple_n concern_v the_o power_n in_o the_o pope_n to_o depose_v king_n or_o absolve_v their_o subject_n from_o the_o allegiance_n due_a unto_o they_o yet_o it_o do_v not_o therefore_o follow_v that_o the_o same_o authority_n which_o do_v not_o concern_v itself_o at_o least_o in_o any_o public_a decree_n about_o other_o difficulty_n of_o the_o oath_n shall_v persuade_v they_o not_o to_o refuse_v at_o all_o this_o present_a oath_n since_o there_o be_v several_a other_o respect_n not_o take_v notice_n of_o by_o the_o parliament_n or_o university_n of_o paris_n in_o their_o public_a decree_n allege_v by_o our_o adversary_n for_o which_o many_o refuse_v it_o some_o though_o satisfy_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v no_o power_n to_o depose_v king_n yet_o they_o have_v a_o great_a difficulty_n about_o the_o word_n heretical_a for_o it_o seem_v hard_o unto_o they_o to_o censure_v the_o doctrine_n which_o maintain_v that_o prince_n excommunicate_a or_o deprive_v by_o the_o pope_n may_v be_v depose_v by_o their_o subject_n for_o a_o heresy_n or_o for_o as_o bad_a as_o a_o heresy_n and_o the_o defender_n thereof_o for_o heretic_n either_o material_a or_o formal_a as_o invincible_a ignorance_n do_v or_o do_v not_o excuse_v they_o or_o at_o least_o for_o as_o bad_a as_o such_o and_o to_o swear_v that_o they_o detest_v they_o in_o the_o like_a 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can_v put_v a_o interdict_v which_o be_v a_o mere_a ecclesiastical_a censure_n as_o a_o excommunication_n be_v either_o upon_o the_o french_a king_n or_o his_o kingdom_n and_o moreover_o the_o member_n of_o the_o university_n of_o paris_n do_v swear_v that_o they_o will_v defend_v among_o other_o article_n that_o the_o say_a university_n do_v not_o approve_v that_o the_o pope_n may_v depose_v bishop_n or_o deprive_v they_o though_o ecclesiastical_a person_n of_o their_o ecclesiastical_a jurisdiction_n contrary_a to_o the_o liberty_n and_o canon_n of_o the_o gallican_n church_n common_o receive_v in_o that_o kingdom_n and_o yet_o sure_a even_o those_o catholic_n who_o stand_n so_o much_o for_o the_o oath_n will_v think_v it_o somewhat_o harsh_a if_o the_o parliament_n shall_v force_v they_o to_o swear_v that_o the_o pope_n can_v depose_v a_o catholic_n bishop_n of_o england_n be_v there_o any_o such_o bishop_n that_o deserve_v to_o be_v depose_v or_o that_o he_o can_v put_v a_o 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he_o have_v any_o such_o power_n or_o forbid_v we_o to_o hold_v or_o defend_v the_o contrary_n 81._o consider_v four_o whether_o shall_v we_o grant_v which_o we_o do_v not_o that_o there_o be_v in_o france_n a_o public_a oath_n for_o all_o sort_n of_o people_n wherein_o they_o do_v positive_o swear_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v not_o any_o power_n to_o depose_v his_o most_o christian_n majesty_n whether_o i_o say_v there_o will_v not_o be_v several_a particular_a reason_n to_o refuse_v such_o a_o oath_n as_o our_o present_a oath_n be_v in_o england_n consider_v the_o present_a condition_n thereof_o which_o be_v of_o no_o force_n in_o france_n to_o refuse_v the_o like_a oath_n for_o we_o may_v prudent_o suspect_v here_o in_o england_n that_o since_o the_o framer_n of_o this_o oath_n be_v mortal_a enemy_n to_o the_o pope_n and_o see_v of_o rome_n they_o have_v make_v such_o frequent_a mention_n therein_o of_o the_o pope_n and_o see_v of_o rome_n without_o specify_v any_o other_o 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christian_n may_v if_o it_o be_v necessary_a swear_v by_o the_o fortune_n of_o their_o prince_n who_o be_v christian_n in_o like_a manner_n shall_v a_o arrian_n king_n require_v of_o his_o subject_n that_o they_o shall_v swear_v or_o subscribe_v this_o proposition_n christ_n be_v a_o creature_n they_o may_v just_o refuse_v it_o though_o that_o proposition_n in_o rigour_n be_v true_a because_o they_o may_v prudent_o suspect_v that_o the_o arrian_n do_v require_v of_o they_o such_o a_o oath_n or_o subscription_n in_o contempt_n of_o the_o divinity_n of_o our_o b._n saviour_n which_o they_o deny_v and_o endeavour_v to_o prove_v their_o assertion_n because_o he_o be_v a_o creature_n now_o nothing_o of_o this_o can_v be_v suspect_v in_o france_n where_o they_o be_v roman_a catholic_n and_o own_o the_o pope_n dignity_n and_o supremacy_n in_o spirituall_n 82._o moreover_o the_o very_a title_n of_o the_o act_n wherein_o this_o oath_n be_v insert_v as_o above_o have_v be_v hint_v do_v 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sovereign_n than_o child_n be_v command_v to_o honour_v their_o parent_n and_o wife_n to_o obey_v their_o husband_n 110._o if_o our_o adversary_n object_n that_o the_o case_n allege_v by_o we_o here_o and_o above_o to_o prove_v that_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n do_v sometime_o exercise_v their_o power_n over_o temporal_n or_o deprive_v other_o of_o some_o temporal_a thing_n do_v proceed_v not_o from_o a_o ordinary_a but_o a_o extraordinary_a power_n and_o by_o consequence_n hence_o can_v be_v infer_v that_o the_o pope_n have_v any_o such_o power_n since_o he_o succeed_v christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n in_o their_o ordinary_a jurisdiction_n only_o to_o this_o i_o answer_v that_o all_o the_o case_n at_o least_o allege_a by_o we_o be_v not_o such_o for_o the_o power_n to_o deprive_v one_o by_o excommunication_n of_o all_o civil_a conversation_n and_o to_o separate_v a_o man_n from_o his_o wife_n in_o certain_a case_n be_v inherent_a in_o the_o pope_n according_a to_o his_o ordinary_a 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