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A78482 Certain particulars, further tending to satisfie the tender consciences of such as are required to take the engagement· / Written by a godly and learned divine. Godly and learned divine. 1651 (1651) Wing C1722; Thomason E640_22; ESTC R206680 10,141 16

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