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A66889 An answer to the gentleman's letter to his friend shewing that bishops may be judges in causes capital. Womock, Laurence, 1612-1685. 1680 (1680) Wing W3333; ESTC R34097 18,918 24

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and_o reason_n of_o their_o protestation_n the_o wicked_a custom_n therefore_o which_o that_o monk_n inveigh_v against_o and_o which_o cost_n becket_n so_o severe_a a_o penance_n must_v be_v seek_v for_o elsewhere_o among_o the_o rest_n of_o those_o sixteen_o constitution_n of_o clarendon_n but_o whatever_o opinion_n the_o clergy_n of_o those_o time_n have_v of_o this_o canon_n i_o doubt_v not_o to_o make_v it_o evident_a that_o it_o be_v ground_v upon_o principle_n of_o superstition_n 11._o determ_fw-la 11._o for_o as_o the_o reverend_a davenant_n have_v it_o quid_fw-la impium_fw-la quid_fw-la illicitum_fw-la what_o be_v in_o it_o that_o be_v impious_a what_o that_o be_v unlawful_a what_o that_o be_v contrary_a to_o the_o office_n or_o sacredness_n of_o a_o priest_n where_o there_o be_v a_o just_a authority_n for_o it_o to_o bridle_v and_o restrain_v such_o as_o be_v notorious_o wicked_a and_o disturber_n of_o the_o christian_a commonwealth_n by_o civil_a penalty_n and_o corporal_a 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foreign_a power_n restrain_v the_o sovereign_a authority_n of_o the_o kingdom_n from_o command_v the_o service_n or_o make_v use_n of_o the_o duty_n of_o his_o subject_n in_o such_o case_n the_o force_n of_o this_o canon_n divide_v the_o prelate_n of_o those_o time_n between_o the_o prince_n and_o the_o pope_n either_o they_o do_v not_o understand_v or_o they_o do_v wilful_o neglect_v their_o duty_n and_o some_o instance_n of_o the_o mischievous_a effect_n hereof_o this_o gentleman_n give_v we_o in_o his_o letter_n he_o tell_v we_o p._n 7_o 8._o 5_o e._n 3._o the_o parliament_n be_v declare_v to_o be_v call_v for_o the_o redress_n of_o the_o breach_n of_o the_o law_n and_o of_o the_o peace_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o because_o the_o prelate_n be_v of_o opinion_n that_o it_o belong_v not_o proper_o to_o they_o to_o give_v counsel_n about_o keep_v the_o peace_n nor_o punish_v such_o evil_n they_o go_v away_o by_o themselves_o and_o they_o return_v no_o more_o nor_o do_v their_o disobedience_n stop_v here_o but_o the_o gentleman_n tell_v we_o further_o at_o p._n 96._o that_o 20_o r._n 2._o the_o bishop_n upon_o occasion_n of_o the_o statute_n of_o provisor_n enter_v a_o protestation_n against_o whatsoever_o shall_v be_v do_v in_o derogation_n or_o restriction_n of_o the_o power_n of_o their_o holy_a father_n the_o pope_n say_v they_o be_v swear_v to_o his_o holiness_n and_o to_o the_o court_n of_o rome_n these_o and_o the_o like_a insolence_n be_v the_o fruit_n of_o those_o immunity_n which_o the_o prelate_n of_o those_o time_n receive_v by_o the_o decree_n of_o those_o holy_a canon_n and_o as_o this_o canon_n be_v ground_v upon_o superstition_n and_o do_v confront_v the_o king_n supermacy_n so_o the_o practice_n of_o it_o in_o those_o time_n be_v irrational_a and_o uncharitable_a first_o irrational_a for_o 1._o why_o be_v the_o prelate_n debar_v the_o liberty_n of_o sit_v judge_n in_o such_o case_n be_v it_o because_o they_o want_v knowledge_n reason_n or_o 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