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A62873 Saints no smiters, or, Smiting civil powers not the work of saints being a treatise, shewing the doctrine and atempts of Quinto-Monarchians, or, Fifth-Monarchy-Men about smiting powers, to be damnable and antichristian / by John Tombes ... Tombes, John, 1603?-1676. 1664 (1664) Wing T1816; ESTC R6979 110,523 126

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erroneous Revolters from pure worship true doctrine and true Christian conversation in duties of love and righteousness walk on every side that a small number of Saints in profession should have more enemies against them if they did live by themselves on earth as an entire and independent Common-wealth If in Christs retinue there were a Judas can any company of Saints secure themselves from hypocritical members and their treachery Sure the little flock of Christ is more beholding to Kings and Rulers and Laws and Government though with some rigour and persecution than they are sensible of or thankful for as they should be We have seen how unsuccessful endeavours have been to reform Churches to rectify Governments as we desire how like Tinkers work alterations in them have been that while one hole is stopped two are made how many various forms of Government have been devised whereof one hath opposed the other that while they have been hammering on a new frame all hath fallen to pieces every one likely agreeing about what they would not have few about what they would have And therefore it would be more agreeable to the mind of God for Christians now though under many grievances and pressures to subject themselves peaceably even to hard Rulers and as God admonished the Jews in Babylon to pray for their peace for in their peace they should have peace and to seek the peace of them Jer. 29. 7. till God call them out of Babylon by his providence and not either by flying from them as enemies desert their station wherein by their abiding they might perhaps through their good conversation amend them or by their patience pacify them or by reviling provoke them or by conspiracies or tumults incense them against them much less after the Quinto-Monarchians furious manner take up arms to make themselves a Free-state and Lords of the world The fifth position is that Saints regained the rights and priviledges in respect of Government in the second Adam or Lord from Heaven which position is deduced out of the former but is false and pernicious For 1. it supposeth that the rights and priviledges in respect of Government were lost in the first Adam which is before proved false 2. That the second Adam or Lord from Heaven hath regained them whereas there is no Text of Scripture that doth mention that this was the end of his coming into the world to get for himself or for his Disciples the actual regiment or government of the Natitions of the world in an outward manner by making and executing Laws about civil affairs nor was this ever claimed by Christ or his Apostles but when he perceived that they would come and take him by force to make him a King he departed again into a mountain himself alone John 6. 15. and when one of the company said unto him Master speak to my Brother that he divide the inheritance with me he said unto him man who made me a Judge or Divider over you Luke 12. 13. 14. which plainly shews Christs refusal of medling with civil affairs though it were but by speaking for one brother to another yea and his disclaiming any civil office or judicature as not belonging unto him And his whole estate of life and deportment in the daies of his flesh was altogether incongruous to a civil government or rule nor did he ever disturb Herod Pilate the high Priests or Elders of the Jews about their government but only he once drave the Buyers and Sellers out of the Temple by special instinct and rode on an Asse into Jerusalem to shew his right as the Son of David and freely reproved the wickedness of the Jewish Rulers and Pharisees yet still requiring those that were healed of leprosy to go to the Priests and shew themselves to them for a testimony to them that he was not against the observance due by the Law to them It is indeed said Rom. 14. 9. That to this end Christ both died and rose and revived that he might be Lord both of the dead and living But this cannot be meant in respect of civil government on earth and the rights and priviledges thereof but the spiritual rule he hath over them now and the great dominion he shall have at the universal Judgment when at the name of Jesus every knee shall bow of things in Heaven and things in earth and things under the earth and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father Phil. 2. 10. 11. yea this thing was the very stumbling block of the Pharisees by reason of which they denied his Kingdom and his being the Messiah because he did not take upon him civil rule nor by human forces subdue the Romans as David the Philistines but by invisible power cast out Divels healed diseases rebuked storms and multiplyed loaves and did such other acts and gave such laws as were altogether unsutable to the King and Kingdom which they fancied and expected So that this conceit of Christs regaining the rights and priviledges in respect of Government which was lost in the first Adam meaning the outward visible government of the world in respect of civil affairs is but a Jewish opinion altogether disagreeing with Christian Doctrine It is true that the Apostles minds did oftentimes hanker after it contending sundry times who should be chiefest among them and the two brethren James and John by their Mother asking the two nearest places to Christ in his Kingdom but they were checked by Christ expresly telling them that to sit at his right hand or his left was not his to give but for whom it was prepared of his Father Matth. 20. 23. shewing thereby that in his present state he had no such Kingdom or Throne as they dreamed of nor was to have nor the disposal of such places as they ambitiously sought but told them of their suffering afflictions and to all his Apostles said Ye know that the Princes of the Gentiles exercise dominion over them and they that are great exercise authority upon them but it shall not be so among you v. 25 26. yea when they would know who should be greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven he called a little child unto him and set him in the midst of them and said verily I say unto you except ye be converted and become as little children ye shall not enter into the Kingdom of Heaven whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child the same is greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven Matth. 18. 1 2 3 4. declaring plainly that all affecting government and superiority in this world was contrary to his Kingdom and therefore the monstrous ambition of Quinto-Monarchians of getting into their hands the Kingdoms of this world is as contrary to Christianity as bitter to sweet darkness to light or rather indeed Antichristian or Babylonish being under another disguise the same with the Popes claim of Universal Monarchy as Vicar of Christ of having both
in ordine ad spiritualia as they spake they might dispose of their Kingdoms as the Vicars of Christ and visible Monarchs of the Universal Church Which things these Fifth-Monarchy-Men count Antichristian and therefore their teaching and doing the like upon pretence of setting up of Christs Kingdom on earth is by parity of reason there being not better proof for the one than for the other damnable and Antichristian § 13. The smiting work of Quinto-Monarchians is grounded on falsities or uncertainties concerning the agents means and time of smiting mentioned Dan 2. 34. 44 45. HItherto I have prosecuted those arguments against the Quinto-Monarchians doctrine and practise which shew it to be damnable and Antichristian in respect of the act it self of smiting civil powers I shall add further more arguments against them shewing the falsity and uncertainty of those grounds and principles on which their determinations concerning separation from smiting of civil powers rest The first whereof is that afore the Fifth-Monarchy be set up and in order thereto afore Christs coming all civil powers that are now extant as part of the fourth Monarchy are to be disannulled Which hath no foundation but in their own fancy or hatred of the civil powers as withstanding their design For it is said Revel 17. 16 17. That the Kings which formerly supported Babylon shall hate the Whore and shall make her desolate and naked and shall eat her flesh and burn her with fire For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will and to agree and give their Kingdom unto the Beast until the words of God be fulfilled and Revel 18. 9. It is said That the Kings of the earth who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her shall be wail her and lament for her when they shall see the smoke of her burning which shewes that Kings even those that have joyned with Babylon shall remain after her fall yea and some Kings shall be the instruments of her destruction And the Apostle 1 Cor. 15. 24. tells us Then cometh the end when he shall have delivered up the Kingdom to God even the Father when he shall have put down all Rule and all Authority and Power Which words plainly intimate that afore the end when Christ shall deliver up the Kingdom to God even the Father all Rule and Authority and Power shall not be put down Which may be also gathered from Revel 11. 15. where it is said And the seventh Angel sounded and there were great voices in Heaven saying the Kingdoms of the world are become the Kingdoms of the Lord and of his Christ and he shall reign for ever and ever which is said v. 18. To be the time of the dead that they should be judged and therefore till that time there shall be the Kingdoms of this world and consequently civil powers A second is That civil powers are to be dissolved by men Whereas this is still asserted in Scripture as Gods prerogative that the most High ruleth in the Kingdom of men and giveth it to whomsoever he will Dan. 4. 25. 32. 34 35. and 5. 21. And even in the business of the fourth Monarchy the stone that is said to smite the image upon his feet is said to be cut out of the mountain without hands Dan. 2. 34. 45. which is more likely to be meant of Christ who was cut without hands out of the mountain that is without natural generation as other men whether by the Mountain be meant Eternity or Heaven or the Roman Empire or the Universe of human kind as I conceive then of any other man or men And if it be meant of the Kingdom as v. 44. doth expound it that it shall break in pieces and consume all these Kingdoms it must be meant in respect of Christ the King whose dominion is set up by the God of Heaven and not by men and therefore take it any way agreeable to the Text the stones breaking in pieces and consuming all the Kingdoms must not be expounded of Subjects now calling themselves Saints destroying civil powers to which they are subject A third is That men shall dissolve civil powers by fighting with swords which is very false For the stone that smote the Image became a great mountain and filled the whole earth which if it be understood of Christs spiritual Kingdom it smote the Image by preaching the Gospel by which the power of the Idols who ruled in those Kingdoms was cast down and by it the stone became a great mountain and filled the whole earth if it be meant of smiting hereafter it is to be as 2 Thes. 2. 8. it is said that wicked one the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming or if it be meant of the Saints as Mr. Thomas Parker conceives they are thus cut out by professed separation and victorious exemption without hands that is by the only power and finger of Almighty God as it is interpretted Dan. 2. v. 44 45. Thus saith he in his Exposition of that Vision they began to be cut out anno 1160 in the Waldenses and continue so unto this day And the extraordinary hand of God was seen therein as the strange arising growth prevailing of them doth manifestly declare But their absolute cutting out an exemption from the power of Antichrist is that which is to be expected at the term of the slaughter of the two Prophets when their rising by the power alone of God Almighty without the help of man is thus described Revel 11. 11. And after three daies and an half the spirit of life from God entered into them and they stood upon their feet and great fear fell upon them that saw them they ascended up to Heaven in a Cloud and their enemies beheld them And the same hour was there a great Earth-quake and the tenth part of the City fell and in the Earth-quake were slain of men or names of men as in the Greek expounded by Mr. Mede men of name seven thousand presently after which it followes The Kingdoms of the world are become the Kingdoms of the Lord and his Christ. Now be the Earth-quake as Mr. Mede thinks a great commotion of the Nations and alteration of Politique Affairs or some thing else it is caused by Gods power either without man or only by the witnesses and their testimony and if the falling and slaughter thereby be in whole or in part the smiting of the Stone Dan. 2. 34. 44 45. as it is probable it is not by fighting sure not by such as overthrowes civil powers for they shall be altered and be instrumental to destroy Babylon Revel 17. 16 17. And therefore this which is the hinge on which the smiting work of Quinto-Monarchians turns being very uncertain or rather very false all their inferences thereupon must of necessity be groundless and unwarrantable A fourth is that the smiting work ascribed to the Stone shall be