dangerous consequence to the Cause of God and the Solemne League and Covenant And for the particulars wee shall expresse our sense thereof in a distinct paper as soon as we can put our thoughts in order which we hope shall be very shortly As to our other two papers give us leave to put your Lordships in mind of some particulars contained therein which we observe not to be touched much lesse satisfied by your Lordships either in your answer of the 20th Or in the Declaration as namely 1. In our paper of the 13th we desired your Lordships seriously to ponder how you can make the refusall of that demand concerning Religion a cause of warre against the Parliament of England with whom this Nation was lately ingaged in a warre for defence of the League and Covenant and the end thereof when the King was in Armes against both And yet ingage in a warre for the King whilst he refuseth to give satisfaction in that which concerns Religion and the Covenant and will come no further at the utmost then to leave the same arbitrary Shall the refusall of one and the same desire in the Parliament of England be a cause of warre and yet in the King not so much as an impediment to assistance even whilst wee have just cause to feare that he will imploy his power against the Cause and Covenant 2. Neither do we find any answer to that part of our petition of the 18th which concerneth his Majesties negative voyce there expressed under the name of such power as may not only bring the bygon proceedings of both Kingdomes in the League and Covenant in question but also for the time to come make void all the authority of Parliaments though proceeding never so rightly in reference to Religion liberties of the Kingdoms which made us desire your Lord hips might be far from intereâ—â—ing your selves in any thing that may put such a power in his Majesties hands 3. We have received no answer to that part of the same petition wherein it was desired that if any within the three Kingdomes who doe not sweare and subscribe the Solemn League and Covenant rise in Armes your Lordships will hold them all for professed Adversaries and Malignants and indeavour to suppresse them 4. Nor find we nay thing in your Lordships answer or Declaration in reference to that clause of our petition that your Lordships may let His majesty and al others know that what you intend on his behalfe is with a subordmation to Religion and the security thereof Some particulars in these two papers your Lordships are pleased to make answer unto And first to that which we desired concerning applications to be made to the Kings Majesty as well as to the Parliament of England for satisfaction in point of Religion your Lordships answer That the Parliament conceives the same way is now taken that hath been formerly which we doe not understand to be so not having knowne heretofore such a way of sending demands of this nature to the Parliament of England but that the Parliament of England were always desired to concur with this Kingdom in the sending of Propositions to his Majesty And whatsoever the Houses of Parliament have done in laying aside diverse of the Propositions concerning Religion formerly agreed upon by both Kingdomes yet we conceive it is still the duty of this Kingdome to insist with His Majesty upon their just and laudable desires for settling the Reformation and uniformity of Religion according to the Covenant for the reasons and ends expressed in our petition And so much the rather because after so many unsatisfactory answers and messages from his Majesty we doe not expect a right understanding between His Majesty and his people till somewhat proceeds from him towards a cleare satisfaction of the just desires of his people and especially in point of Religion And although his Majesty bee not presently in that condition as that hee may make a perfect settlement of Religion yet wee know not why even in the condition he now is in there may not be applications made to him for obtaining from him security and assurance for the settling of Religion according to the Covenant And whereas your Lordships by that which followeth in your answer let us know that you suspend your insisting for satisfaction from his Majesty in Religion till hee shall bee in such a condition of freedom honour and safety as his concessions may be effectuall To passe the ambiguitie which may be concealed in these last words and what concessions are meant whither His Majesties future concessions or those already granted we doe not thinke this delay safe neither can we know how long it may be Withall this clause gives some light to that part of your Lordships Declaration For His Majesties comming with honour freedome and safety to some of his houses in or neer London This honour freedome and safety being conceived by your Lordships to be such as may inable His Majesty to effectuate his concessions concerning Religion appeareth to us to bee no lesse then a restoring of His Majestie to the exercise of his royall power without security first had from him for settling Religion The second part of your Lordships answer we humbly conceive doth rather confirme then satisfie our just complaint concerning resolutions taken by your Lordships in matters of Religion without the advise and consent of the Kirke For when your Lordships say that what is now Declared by the Parliament in order to Religion is not upon any new grounds but in pursuance of the same grounds contained in the Covenant and in the acts of the Generall Assembly yea that in your Lordshps demand concerning Religion our advise was desired All this addeth to our just grievance intimating to us that your Lordships interpret the Covenant and acts of the Generall Assembly otherwise then we do forwe cannot conceive how your Lo Declarat agreeth with the grounds of the Covenant acts of the General Assembly but that it goeth upon new grounds not contained in them It is true our advise was desired in that demand concerning Religion but it was also true that the demand was resolved upon by your Lordships before our advise was desired and that the answer and advise returned from us hath not found good acceptance neither have your Lordships proceeded according to the same And whereas your Lordships say that as you have never hitherto taken any resolutions in that which concernes Religion without advice from the Kirke and here give instance in those particulars complained of by us so you shall never doe any thing that may prejudice this just interest and liberty of the Kirke of Scotland As we shall not call to minde all that is past so that which is here expressed by your Lordships doth yet further adde unto our grievance for to parallel and proportion the measure which wee may expect for the future with that which we have in these late passages
we insist upon the prejudice that preparative of the taking of resolutions in that which concernes Religion without the advice and consent of the Kirke may bring to the interest and liberty thereof But conceiving that wee have just reason to looke upon the demand as intended to be a ground of warre in case the Sea-men shall be refused by the Parliament of England we cannot returne our thoughts thereupon untill your Lordships shall be pleased to give us a satisfactory answer to our eight desires formerly propounded to your Lordships and untill you shall be pleased also to acquaint us with the Articles of the breaches of the Covenant and Treaties and other demands for reparation thereof mentioned in the paper sent to us that so we may not only know that no other of the demands doe crosse this or tend to the hinderance of the work of Reformation but also that we may be satisfied in our consciences upon the whole matter and be assured that all things are so ordered and resolved as may indeed contribute for establishing the Covenant and settling of Reformation of and Uniformitie in Religion and attaining all things expressed in your Lordships demands communicated to us In the meane while seeing your Lordships do professe that the Cause is the same and the cheif ground of the undertaking is for Religion Wee desire your Lordships seriously in your consciences to ponder how yee can make the refusall of this demand a cause of warre against the Parliament of England with whom this nation was lately ingaged in a warre in defence of the League and Covenant and ends thereof when the King was in armes against both and yet ingage in a warre for the King while he still refuses to settle Religion and injoyn the Covenant and will come no further at the uttermost then to leave the Sea-men Arbitrary as is evident from his late concessions Or how your Lordships can propound any such demand unto others whilst your selves have not declared the Kings concessions so much as unsatisfactory seeing these concessions are distructive to most of the particulars contained in your Lordships demands A. Ker. Edinb 18 Aprill 1648. To the Right honourable and High Court of Parliament The humble Petition of the Commissioner of the Generall Assembly REligion being of all things the most excellent as it hath been the principall end of all the in deavours and undertakings of this Nation so it is the main subject of our thoughts and cares and we trust is most in the hearts of all the faithfull Ministers and godly people throughout the Land as severall of their supplications unto your Lordships do make evident It was from the tender regard we had of this so precious a jewell that we did emit a Declaration concerning present dangers and duties And it was also from our respect thereunto perceiving your Lordsh inclined to an ingagement from which wee neither were then nor now are averse being first satisfied in the grounds of the undertaking and in the way of the managing of the same that we did afterwards propound some humble desires unto your Lordships containing things necessary for a right undertaking for and securing of Religion and preserving the Vnion between the Kingdomes But after long attendance and most earnest expectation having received no satisfaction from your Lordships in these our desires and conceiving that your Lordships resolutions are towards an ingagement in a warre We doe from no other principle and intention then the love of the truth and the discharge of the trust committed unto us as the servants of the living God and his son Jesus Christ who shall judge the quicke and the dead intreate and obtest your Lordships that as you doe professe that any undertakings which yee now are or shall bee necessitated unto shall onely be for settling Religion Truth and peace under His Majesties Government So for convinceing our consciences and all the faithfull Ministers and people of God in both Kingdomes of the integrity of your intentions that your Lordships will be pleased to give us satisfaction in all these our former just and necessary desires and that for the said end your Lordships wil make it appear that you meane to be far from interessing your selves in any thing that may put in His Majesties hands such power as may not onely bring the by-gon proceedings of both Kingdomes in the League and Covenant in question but also for the time to come make void all the authority of Parliaments though proceeding never so rightly in reference to Religion and Liberties of the Kingdoms And that your Lordships will be pleased to make it manifest that you will be so farre from associating with or giving trust and countenance to any within the three Kingdoms who do not swear and subscribe the Solemne League and Covenant That on the contrary your Lordships will hold them all for professed Adversaries and Malignants and indeavour to suppresse them if they rise in Armes Which we think we may with the greater reason and confidence expect from your Lordships because yee have resolved to demand of the Parliament of England that an effectuall course be taken by the Houses for injoyning the Covenant to be taken by all the Subjects of the Crowne of England Conforme to the first Article of the Treaty the Declaration of both Kingdomes in anno 1643 By which all who would not take the Covenant were Declared to be publique enemies to Religion and the Countrie and that they are to be censured and punished as professed Adversaries and Malignants And we trust that whilst your Lordships require of them the performance of duties contained in the Treaties and Declaration you will make it appeare that you intend to do nothing your selves contrary thereunto The obligation therein being equall in regard of both and the performance alike conducing for Religion and the Covenant And we doe humbly intreate that your honours will be pleased to make known unto us your resolutionsupon the whole matter that we may see there is nothing therein that may crosse your Lordships demands concerning Religion and be inconsistent with the security thereof and our desire for the same And that what shall be thought fitting to be demanded of the Parliament of England concerning Religion for rendering the same the more effectuall your Lordships will at the same time solicite His Majesty for His Royall assent thereunto that His Majesty and all others may know that what you intend on His behalfe is with a subordination to those ends And so his Majesty may be induced to remove al obstructions on his part that hinder the settling of Religion and his Majesties Government And being desirous that all meanes bee first assaid which may prevent the effusion of more Christian blood so farre as is possible Therefore as the messengers of peace we doe supplicate that your Lordships will take such course for seeking reparation from the Parliament of England as may bee most probable in
that Confession of Faith hath in it some necessary cautions provisoes and explanations which as the Generall Assembly judged necessary to be added in their Act so we do not think that part of your Lordships demand as it stands without any such caution to be safe enough which among other things shewes the danger and inconvenience of your Lordships taking resolutions in things concerning Religion without our advice and consent 5. As we desire that Reformation of and Uniformity in Religion may be endeavoured by your Lordships in all fair lawfull and brotherly wayes according to the Covenant and heartily approve any such desire as your Lordships shall send to the Parliament of England by the advice and consent of this Kirk for in joyning the Covenant and for bringing the Churches of CHRIST in the three Kingdoms to the nearest Conjunction and Uniformity in one Confession of Faith Directory of Worship and Presbyteriall Government So we would be very cautious and tender when such desires are turned into causes of War if not obtained which is the present case as we understand by your Lordships expression in the precedent Paragraph Your Lordships second demand is That the Kings Majesty may come to some of his Houses in or near London with Honour Freedome and Safety that applications may he made to him by Parliaments of both Kingdoms for attaining his Royall assent to such desires as shall be by them presented to him for establishing Religion as is above exprest and setling a well-grounded Peace This demand we conceive to be of dangerous consequence to Religion and the Covenant for the reasons and considerations following which we humbly offer to be considered by your Lordships 1. All applications and desires to his Majesty for Religion are suspended till he come with Honour Fredome and safty to some of his Houses in or neere London We know not what length of time this may draw to or how much danger there may be in the delay 2. The establishing of Religion here mentioned as that which your Lordships intend to desire of his Majestie is according to that which is above expressed where we doubt not your Lordships referre to your first demand which went before Whereas the establishing of Religion in such a manner as is there expressed we do not think safe for the reasons before given 3. We conceive that this second demand amounts to no lesse then the restitution of his Majesty to the exercise of his Royall Power before Applications made and desires presented to him much more before assurance and security had from him for the setling of Religion in the right manner and according to the Covenant For besides what we have expressed in our last Paper presented to your Lordships that this honour freedom and safety is conceived by your Lordships to be such as may enable his Majesty to effectuat his Concessions concerning Religion And what is that lesse then the exercise of his Royall power restored This we further adde that we humbly conceive his Majesties Honour may comprehend or may be made use of as comprehending not only the possession of his Revenews but also the exercise of his Royall Government Next being in freedome he may repare to any part of his Dominions in Scotland England or Ireland And lastly being restored to be in a condition of safety he may provide Forces for guarding Himselfe against all apprehended dangers for if Guards should be set about him by his Parliament it will be said to be contrary to the condition of freedome So that bring restored to some of his Houses in or near London with Honour Freedome and Safety We do not conceive what he shall want of the exercise of his Royall Power Considering withall that neither himselfe nor any others will conceive the Honour Freedome and Safety to be Kingly and such as becomes his Royall Person if he shall want the exercise of his Royall Power Yet this restitution of his Majesty to the exercise of his Royall Power before security had from him for settling Religion Your Lordships know by our eight Desires and other wayes is conceived by us to be inconsistent with the safety and security of Religion 4. If his Majesty were once come with Honour Freedom and Safety to some of his Houses in or neare London We know not what influences he may have upon the Houses of Parliament to obstruct and hinder their presenting of Bils to Him for enjoyning the Covenant abolishing Prelacy and the Booke of Common-prayer Establishing the Confession of Faith Directory of Worship and Presbyteriall Government Or what strength his Majesty so restored may again attain by the assistance of the Popish Prelaticall and Malignant party for a new and bloody Warre to the devastation of these Kingdomes and the ruine of our Religion and Liberties Which things we have the more cause to feare and apprehend his Majesty having declared and professed that he is obliged in conscience to emprove all the power which God shall put in his hands for the establishment of Episcopacy 5. To insist upon the bringing of his Majesty to some of his Houses in or neer London before satisfaction and security had from him in point of Religion and in such other things as are necessary for the safety of the Kingdoms could not as we conceive but be an exceeding great discouragement and offence to the Presbyterians in England who will conceive if such a thing be pressed upon them that the remedy propounded in your demand is worse then the disease And we have also heard that the Parl. of England when they were as free as ever they were would never agree to his Majesties comming to London with honour freedome and safety without security first had from him in such things as are necessary for Religion and the safety of the Kingdome 6. Seeing your Lordships are oblieged by the third Article of the Covenant to defend his Majesties Person and Authority in the perservation and defence of the true Religion and Liberties of the Kingdome We conceive your Lordships should not demand from nor presse upon the Kingdome of England His Majesties restitution with Honour Freedom and Safety except with that qualification in the Covenant and with a subordination to Religion and the Liberties of the Kingdoms And how can this subordination according to the Covenant be said to be observed in your Lordsh demand as it stands for if His Majesty be brought to some of His Houses inor near London with Honour Freedome and Safety before so much as applications be made to Him for establishing Religion and Peace we then leave it to your Lordships consciences whether His Majesty shall not be restored to His Honour before Jesus Christ be restored to his Honour and set upon his Throne of Government in His Church whether His Majesty shall not be in a condition of Libertie before the Ordinances of Christ have a free course and whether His Majesties safety shall not be provided for and secured
before either Church or Kingdome can say they are in a condition of safety And is this to endeavour the settling of Religion before all worldly interests or rather to make it come after the Kings interest 7. We fear that if after so many instructions from the Parliament Convention and Committee of Estates to their Commissioners at London from time to time for endeavouring in the first place the settlement of Religion and then to endeavour the removing of the Civill differences and the restitution of the King upon his first giving satisfaction in Religion and the grounds of a solid Peace And if after it was declared by this Kingdome during His Majesties being at Newcastle that they could not admit of his Majesties coming to Scotland in freedome unlesse his Majesty granted the Proposition concerning the Covenant and Religion and gave a satisfactory Answer to the rest of the Propositions Likewise if after such a Declaration of the Parliament of this Kingdom January 16 1647 for his Majesties being in some of his Houses with such attendance as the two Houses should think fit untill He give satisfaction in the Propositions If after all this it be now insisted upon that his Majesty may be restored with Honour Freedome and Safety before such satisfaction had from Him we feare it shall lie as a great scandall upon this Kingdome and as too sensible and apparent a change of their former principles and professions in a point so much concerning the security of Religion 8. We are very apprehensive that your Lordships urging the disposal of the Kings Person in England in such a way as that he may come to London with Honour Freedom and Safety without his Majesties giving or your Lordships desiring his Majesty to give satisfaction and security in Religion in such things as belong to the safety of the Kingdome without which there can be no lasting security expected to Religion At it is a farre different point from the urging of a joynt interest in the disposing of the Kings Person by both Kingdomes for the good of both so it will be fudged by most of all parties in England that ever concurred in this Cause to be so prejudiciall to their Nationall Rights and Liberties and such an enchroachment thereupon though your Lordships declare you have no such intention as that it will unite them all in opposition to this Kingdome and consequently alienate them from the intended Uniformity in Religion according to the Covenant As these reasons make us conceive your Lordships second demand to import no small danger to Religion So we would not be understood as if we had any thoughts to decline the restoring of his Majesty to the same condition he was in by the agreement of both Kingdomes when he was taken away by a party of the Army under the command of Sir Thomas Fairfax that both Kingdomes may freely make their applications to him Concerning your Lordships third demand That the present Army of Sectaries may be disbanded for the ends expressed in the demand As we think no persons what soever fit to be imployed or entrusted in the Armies of either Kingdom who have not taken the Covenant and that all Sectaries in England that are in Arms should be disbanded and disarmed So we conceive there is also reason for your Lordships to foresee and provide against the danger of the rising again of the Popish Prelatical and Malignant party in armes and therther because of the late commotions begun by some of them both in England and Ireland There being also some both in Wales and Ireland actually in arms who have discovered and declared their principles and ends to be very Malignant wherein we are informed they are the more animated and encouraged upon confidence of some agreement between his Majesty and this Kingdome It is further to be considered that this Demand being joyned with the second the present Army in England disbanded and his Majesty brought to London with Honour Freedome and Safety how easily may all the Malignant Popish and Prelaticall party in his Majesties Dominions flock unto him Which how prejudiciall it may be his Majesty keeping still his principles is easie to be judged As for the exceptions added in your Lordships demand to passe the ambiguity thereof your Lordships except from the laid disbanding the Garrisons necessary to be kept in England and desire that these Garrisons may be commanded by such as have or shall take the Covenant and are well-affected to Religion and Government but do not desire any such thing concerning the Garisons themselves which may be understood as a tacite confession on your part that all the Garisons to be kept in England may be of such as have not taken nor shall take the Covenant nor are well affected to Religion and Government provided that those Garisons be commanded by such as your Lordships describe We have but one point more to adde concerning this third and last demand For we cannot conceal our feares and apprehensions that your present resolutions and proceedings and the entertainment of English Souldiers whereof many are Papists and Malignants and some eminent in Malignancie is not the way to further but to retard and hinder the disbanding of the present Army in England and to frustrate the ends your Lordships propose in your Declaration for the disbanding of that Army And whereas your Lordships declare that it is not your intention at all to make a Nationall engagement against the Parliament and Kingdome of England but for them as we shall not presume to speak of the Nationall Rights and Priviledges of another Kingdome So we cannot see how the principles of your Lordships Declaration can consist with the first part of our third Desire which was That there may be no such quarrell or ground of the Waâ—re as may break the Vnion between the Kingdomes for we conceive there are diverse such quarrels in the Declaration as fall directly and necessarly upon the votes and proceedings of the Houses of Parliament even when they were most free Concerning that which your Lordships adde in reference to the latter part of our third desire and to out whole fourth desire We humbly conceive it is very farre short of that which is no lesse your Lordships duty then our desire for 1. Your Lordships onely declare Association and Conjunction of Forces with those who shall refuse to sweare and subscribe the Covenant which doth not exclude Association of Forces with such as neither have taken nor shall take the Covenant so that they be not urged thereto and so not nerckoned among refusers This we have the more reason to take notice of because your Lordships have before in this same Declaration complained that there is no urging of the Covenant in England nor no execution of publike Orders for taking of the same Which being so how shall your Lordships finde the Malignants in England to be refusers of the Covenant except your Lordships enforce it upon them
of Sectaries in England were remonstrat by us to the honourable Committee of Estates it was pleaded by some who now are most active and forward for an Engagement that this Kirk and Kingdom was in no such danger from the Sectaries in England and the Army there as might be any cause of not disbanding the Army in this Kingdom And is this candid or faire dealing to extenuat or elevat dangers from Sectaries so as may best serve mens present businesses Or if the design at that time was to disband that Army as to make up another of their own modelling why was this somuch disclaimed when mentioned among our feares and apprehensions in our Romonstrance Octob. 13 However it seems the thing then suspected is now begun to be acted and it is too aparent that our former feares were not without some real ground As to any calumnies or aspersions cast upon our proceedings by Malignant and disaffected persons As our consciences before God so the very course of our proceedings before men doth cleerely wipe them off And because we have here onely summarily pointed at things we shall for the cleerer understanding of all refer to the severall Papers themselves herewithall published and made known to all the people of God in this Land that they may prove all things and hold fast that which is good We do not doubt but upon a serious search into the particulars al that do ingeniously seek after satisfaction shall find it And as it will appeare by the particular Papers that we have not medled with Civil businesses but only with such things as meerly concern the safety and security of Religion So we leave it to the consciences of all the wel-affected in the Land whether they will give more credit and belief to the professions and informations of such as were strangers and enemies to the work and cause of God in the beginning or of those who have given constant and real proof of their integrity in this cause from the beginning We trust God will discover more and more the mystery of Malignancy now so strongly working manifest the innocency and sincerity of his servants deliver his people out of the present snares and guid them in a right and safe way which afterwards shall be no griefe of heart but matter of peace and comfort unto them A. KER The Parliaments Answer to the Declaration of the Commission of the General Assembly of the first of March 9. Martii 1648. The Declaration of the Commission of the Generall Assembly produced by Mr. Robert Dowglas accompanied with divers of the Ministry and Ruling Elders read in audience of the Parliament THE Estates of Parliament acknowledge and takes well the continuance of their correspondence in communicating this counsell or advise to the Parliament and remits the same to be considered in their severall bodies but the Parliament desires in the mean time till the return of their answer which they will do with all possible speed that the Commissioners of the Church would take no course for publishing or divulging the same And declares that as they conceive this offer of Councell from the Church to the Parliament doth not derogate from Parliamentary power and liberty So by this delay or answer they do not mean any wayes to intrench upon the priviledge due to the Church or Commission thereof Their intention being meerly for preservation of unity and good correspondence betwixt them Extractum Alex. Gibson Cler. Regist Answer of the Commission of the General Assembly to the Parliaments Paper of the 9. of March Edinburgh 10. Martii 1648. THE Commission of the Generall Assembly having this day received under the hand of the Clerk Register the desire of the Honourable Court of Parliament concerning their Declaration presented to their Honours yesterday Do humbly returne this Answer AS we acknowledge it to be a great favour that the Honourable Estates of Parliament do take well the continuance of our correspondence in communicating our counsell and advice to their Honours and that they professe their intention for preservation of Unity and good correspondence betwixt their Lordships and us without intrenching any wayes upon he Priviledge and liberties of the Kirk So we are necessitate humbly to represent to their Honours that their desire to us to take no course for publishing or divulging the said Declaration till the return of their Answer is such that this Kirk hath not been formerly acquainted with the like Neither can we be answerable to the trust put upon us by God and the Generall Assembly if we neglect or delay to emit and publish this Declaration unlesse we had assurance which we have not that there should be no danger to the cause by the delay Otherwise we come under great guiltinesse if we neglect to give timous and due warning not only to their Honours but also to the whole Kingdome as God requires of Watchmen in time of evident danger Which made us as before in like cases we have done to resolve upon the Printing of the said Declaration before we knew any thing of their Honours desires for not publishing it Thus having exonered our own consciences We humbly desire their Honours to rest confident that as we are carefull to keep the liberty of the Kirk so we shall be most unwilling to give to their Honours any cause of offence A. KER The Dissent and Protestation of some Members of Parliament upon the Vote of Parliament of the 16. March concerning Berwick and Carlile WHereas we have earnestly desired and pressed that no power he granted to any Committee to do act or order any thing which may engage this Kingdome in a Warre before the Parliament resolve on a Warre and state the cause and the ends thereof It being in our judgment neither agreeable to the Oath of Parliament and tenour of Commissions from Shires and Burghs nor to the act of Parliament 1640. against the Lords of the Articles it being also of dangerous preparative and much derogatory to the Liberties of the Kingdoms and Priviledges of Parliament And most of all it being of exceeding dangerous consequence to the cause of God and the Ends of our Solemn League and Covenant We do therefore dissent from the granting of any such power and do protest that we may not be included in any such Vote or Resolution but may be free before God and man of all the guiltinesse prejudices and evils that may follow thereupon to the Cause Covenant and Religion to the Kings person and Authority to this Kirk and Kingdome or to the Vnion betwext the Kingdoms Edinburgh 22. Martii 1648. To the Right Honorable the Estates of PARLIAMENT The humble Desires of the Commissioners of the General Assembly WHereas we were desired to appoint a conference with some of your Lordships which did go on towards an agreement till it was obstructed by a Vote of Parliament of the 16. of this instant And having already shown by our Papers of the 17. and
not satisfied by your Lordships Answer And without cleare satisfaction in these desires We finde it not safe to appoint a conference for agreeing upon the state of a question for War yet if your Lordships had desired or doe desire further conference with some of our number for satisfaction of our above mentioned Desires Wee should have yeelded and yet shall willingly yeeld thereunto And as the present want of satisfaction in these Desires doth retard and hinder our proceedings towards an agreement upon the state of a question so we are still confident that a reall and cleare satisfaction to the said desires may be a happy and effectuall meanes for facilitating the state of the question and for uniting this Nation in an unanimous undertaking of such duties as are requisite for the reformation and defence of Religion the safety honour and happinesse of the King and his posterity and the good peace and safety of the Kingdomes A. KER A Paper from the Parliament of the 29 March 1648. At Edinburgh the 29 day of March the yeare of God 1648 yeares WHereas the Commissioners of the Church have this day exhibited to the Parliament one paper intituled an humble representation of the sense of the Commissioners of the General Assembly To the honourable Estates of Parliament upon their Lordships answer to the eight Desires lately presented to their Lordships And the same being read in audience of the Estates of Parliament They ordain the former Committee of 24 to confer with the Commissioners of the Church or any whom they shall appoint upon the papers exhibited by the Church and answers given thereto by the Parliament and appointed them to debate thereupon and for removing all differences and also upon the state of the question and whole matter And ordaines this to be communicated to the Commissioners of the Church in answer to the paper exhibited by them to the Parliament this day And desires that the Commissioners of the Kirke or those whom they shall appoint may come authorized with the like power to confer Extract ALEX. GIBSON Cler. Registri The Answer of the Commissioners of the Generall Assembly Edin penult Mar. 1648. THE Commissioners of the Generall Assembly having this day received a power from the Honourable Estates of Parliament desiring a conference upon our late Desires and the Parliaments answer given thereunto and also upon the state of the question and whole matter doe humbly returne this Answer That as we have been so we are still willing to appoint a conference upon the eight Desires lately presented to your Lordships and upon the unsatisfactorinesse of your Lordships answer thereunto And if your Lordships shall yet be pleased to give reall and cleare satisfaction to our said desires We shall immediately thereupon appoint some of our number to confer with a Committee of Parliament upon the state of the question This insisting upon satisfaction to our desires before we appoint a conference upon the state of the question doth not proceed from any peremptorinesse about words or things of small moment nor from any partiality or self interest nor from any inclination to stretch our selves beyond our line nor from intention to obstruct any lawfull endeavours either for Monarchicall government in the Kings Majesty and his posterity or for preferring opposing and suppressing of Sectaries Our record is in heaven we abhor and detest all such wayes But our reall purpose is to keep our selves so free that in an implicit way we consent not to nor concur in stating of a question of War before we see the safety and security of Religion sufficiently provided for being tender of the great trust committed to us as the servants of Jesus Christ and officers of his Kingdome for preserving the precious Jewell of Religion which ought to be as well to your Lordships as to us above all worldly interests A. KER The Article of the Demands which is to be communicated to the Commissioners of the Church viz. THAT an effectuall course be taken by the Houses for enjoyning the Covenant to be taken by all the Subjects of the Crowne of England conforme to the first Article-of the Treaty and conform to the Declaration of both Kingdomes in anno 1643. By which all who would not take the Covenant were declared to be publicke enemies to Religion and the Countrey And that they are to bee censured and punished as professed Adversaries and Malignants And that reformation of and uniformity in Religion be settled according to the Covenant That as the Houses of Parliament have agreed to the Directory of worship so they would take a reall course for the practising thereof by all the Subjects of England and Ireland That the Confession of Faith transmitted from the Assembly of Divines at Westminster to the Houses be approved And that Presbyteriall government with a subordination of the lower Assemblies to the higher be setled and fully established in England and Ireland And that effectuall course be taken for suppressing and extirpating all Heresies and Schismes particularly Socinianisme Arminianisme Arrianisme Anabaptisme Antinomianisme Errastianisme Familisme Brownisme and Independency and for perfecting what is yet further to be done for extirpating Popery and Prelacy and suppressing the practice of the Service-book commonly called the Book of English Common-prayer 2 Aprilis 1648. This Article read and agreed to by the Estates of Parliament is thought fitting to bee demanded of the Parliament of England And the Estates appoints the seventh Article to be communicate to the Commissioners of the Kirk that they may return their thoughts thereupon either for addition or alteration which the Parliament will take to their consideration And the Estates appoints the Lord Balmerinoth Lord Huniby and Archbald Sydserse to acquaint the Commissioners of the Church therewith Extracted forth of the Records of Parliament and Articles of breaches of the Covenant and Treaties and demands for reparation thereof respective by me Sir Alex. Gibson of Dure c. Alex. Gibson Cler. Regist Edinb 13 Aprilis 1648. The humble returne of the Commissioners of the Generall Assembly unto that Article of the Demands concerning Religion and the Covenant c. communicated unto them by the Honourable Estates of Parliament AS there is nothing which the Kirke of Scotland now for a long time hath more earnestly wished and seriously studyed then the settling of Religion and carrying on of the worke of uniformity in all the three Kingdomes so it is still our desire that your Lordships should sincerely and really endeavour the same in all fair and lawfull wayes both with the King and Parliament of England according to the League and Covenant As to the Article communicated unto us we shall not search after the cause why your Lordships have changed the way formerly used of sending Propositions to his Majestie without whose confidence your Lordships will easily acknowledge that the Parliament of England cannot render the particulars contained in the demand effectuall for securing of Religion Neither shall
should strike equally on both hands beginning to reforme at home Your Lordships say well that the not takers of the Covenant are by the joynt Declaration of both Kingdomes declared to be publicke enemies to Religion and Country and are to be punished as professed Adversaries and Malignants but we wish your Lordships may not forget to apply that passage of the said Declaration to those who have not to this day taken the Covenant in England and that therefore they may bee lookt upon by your Lordships as common enemies which ought to be suppressed and punished The laying aside of the Covenant out of the new Propositions sent to his Majesty to the Isle of Wight we utterly disapprove and are heartily sorry for it but we wish there had not beene some guiltinesse of this same kinde at home when it was carried in the Committee of Estates that there should be no mention of the Covenant in the publicke desires sent up in August last to his Majesty And whereas your Lordships doe enumerate amongst these breaches of Covenant That they who ought to be brought to tryall and condigne punishment for hindering the Reformation of Religion dividing the King from his People one of the Kingdomes from another or making any faction or party among the People contrary to the League and Covenant have been protected and assisted We shall here onely desire your Lordships to remember that all this is true of Malignants as well as of Sectaries and for our part whatsoever liberty there be in the manner or circumstances we doe not doubt but the thing it selfe is necessary both by the Word of God and Solemne Covenant viz. That justice bee done and condigne punishments inflicted on all hinderers of Reformation and Peace and all who make factions contrary to the Covenant whether they be Sectaries or Malignants But if it was sufficient that the most part of the Malignants were brought to such condigne punishment as the respective Parliaments thought fit which your Lordships gave us a touch of in the precedent part of your narrative wee leave it to your Lordships consideration whether you doe not hereby furnish such a retortion to those that favour the Sectaries in England as that they may plead from that principle in your Lordships declaration that the punishment of Sectaries is to be referred simply to the Parliament of England as they thinke fit and that your Lordships must allow them the same latitude of favour toward the Sectaries as before you have allowed both to your selves and them towards the Malignants Your Lordships adde as another breach of Covenant that in stead of a firme Union and Peace between the Kingdomes a breach hath beene endeavoured which cannot be denyed to be a breach of Covenant and therefore a rocke to bee the more carefully avoyded It is our griefe that there is also cause to complaine of the Malignant party at home as no lesse guilty of endeavouring a breach between the Kingdomes The attempts injuries and violences of that party of Sectaries against his Majesties Royall Person and the hard condition he is reduced unto by their meanes we are very sensible of And as we have often before professed our prayers and endeavours according to our place and calling have not beene neither shall be wanting for the preservation of his Majesties Person and authority in the preservation of the true Religion and liberties of the Kingdomes And we leave it to be pondered by your Lordships whether they that obstruct and hinder the requiring of satisfaction and security from his Majesty in point of Religion before his restitution to the exercise of his Royall Power do not upon the matter and by consequence obstruct and hinder his Majesties deliverance and restitution whereof such security and assurance had from his Majesty might be a powerfull and effectuall meanes As wee know not whom your Lordships meane when you speake of such as had warrant from the Parliament of this Kingdome for accesse to his Majesty and yet were debarred and as no violence nor injury offered to a publicke Minister of another Kingdome can be excused so we are informed that the Souldiers Act in removing once the Earle of Lauderdale from Wooburne was not onely disclaimed but his Lordship often thereafter permitted free accesse to his Majesty Your Lordships insist upon three instances of the breach of Treaties one of the large Treaty and two other breaches of the Treaty 1643. As to the first which for orders sake we begin at We cannot say that it hold forth any convincing clearnesse to us Yea so far as we understand the thing whereunto the Kingdome of England was bound by the Treaty was not insisted upon by the Commissioners of this Kingdome at London but an alternative for assistance against the Rebells by Forces or Monies After which the Parliament of this Kingdome made a desire of assistance by monies which the Parliament of England promised to take into their consideration And seeing your Lordships in this same Declaration wave breaches of Treaty in Money-matters even where the Money was due by Treaty We hope your Lordships will find it the more inexpedient to insist upon the not obtaining of that assistance by monies against the rebels being a way not provided by the Treaty Concerning the other two breaches which pitch upon the Treaty 1643. First your Lordships say that according to the first article of that Treaty the Covenant should have been taken by both Kingdomes but that now by the prevalent party of Sectaries and their adherents it is not only laid aside in the new Propositions and no execution of publick orders for taking it throughout the Country but many in places of trust have never taken it neither are urged to take it Certainly such slieghting of the Covenant is a great sin against God and a high contempt of the Covenant And it is very fit that this Kingdome should desire the Parliament of England to presse it not onely upon persons of trust but universally on all the Subjects of that Kingdome yet we are not convinced of any just ground of War against that Kingdome in that which hath been instanced by your Lordships especially considering that the Covenant was taken by the Representatives and other chiefe corporations in England whereupon both the Generall Assembly and the Parliament of this Kingdom have frequently mentioned in their Acts Letters and Declarations the Union and conjunction of both Kingdomes by Solemne Covenant neither are we without hopes if things be carried on in a fair and right way that the Kingdom of England may be brought a further length in the performance of this duty Whereof we are the more confident because of the famous and frequent testimonies given to the Covenant and against the errours of the time by the Ministry in divers Provinces in England As for the last breach which your Lordships conceive to be against the eighth Article of the same Treaty 1643. We heartily wish that the
joint way of applications to the King by both Kingdomes once begun had been continued and do conceive very much prejudice to the Cause by the divided way onely we offer it to your Lordships further consideration whether this breach be not at least disputable there being no mention at all in that Article of Proposalls Propositions or Bills but only of Cessation Pacification and agreement for Peace so that it may justly be doubted whether the sending of those Proposalls and Bils to the King without the consent of this Kingdome hath in it that certainty and clearnesse of a breach of Treaty between the Kingdomes as may be a ground of War And if it be a breach of the Treaty for either Kingdome singly and dividedly to send Propositions to his Majesty We shall crave leave that we may desire to to in formed how this consisteth with that latitude which your lordships leave afterwards in this same Declaration in the manner of presenting Bills or Acts of Parliament to the King for your Lordships desire assurance of his Majestie to agree to such Acts or Bills as shall be presented unto him by his Parliaments of both or either Kingdoms respecitivè We might also insist upon some Papers and Propositions presented to his Maj. from this Kingdom at Newcastle and much more upon the Pacification concluded there with his Majestie in reference to the disbanding and removing of the Rebels in this Kingdome and that in a single way as we conceive without the knowledge and concurrence of the Parliament of England But we shall come to that which your Lordships make the result upon all these breaches of Covenant and Treaties viz. That they call upon your Lordships to a duty to GOD your King and Country and to your oppressed Brethren in England which your Lordships speake more plainly in the next Clause giving us to understand that those differences or breaches are such as if not repaired by amicable indeavours may otherwise necessitate this Kingdome to ingage in a warre but that first your Lordships intend to send the three desires next mentioned in the Declaration to the Parliament of England And this is all the satisfaction we find to our second desire which was That according to the Treaties it may bee condescended upon and Declared by the Parliament what are those breaches of Peace which they take to bee a ground of Warre and that reparation thereof may bee sought But as wee see no breach of Peace instanced in the Declaration and as the three breaches of Treaties insisted upon by your Lordships seeme to bee at least debatable So wee heare nothing of any resolution of parliament that such breaches as are or shall be condescended upon by your Lordships shall be made known and sent to the Parliament of England as we expected and they have desired by their Commissioners here Onely we hear of three desires to be sent to the Parliament of England for Religion His Majestie and the Good and Peace of these Kingdomes Wee conceive its the best and most justificable way of proceeding that publicke as well as private injuries be declared and made knowne to those whom it concerneth to give satisfaction therein Besides all this we fear your Lordships will hardly avoid a Nationall quarrell against the Parliament of England if the three instances before mentioned be insisted upon as breaches of Treaty to infer a War because when the Houses were most free and when there was no such over-awing influence of the Sectaries party even then they did not suppresse the Irishes in this Kingdome they did not enforce the Covenant on all their Officers much lesse on all English Subjects neither would they then admit that they were oblieged by Treaty not to send Propositions of Bills to the King without the concurrence of this Kingdome In all this that we have said it is far from our meaning to assume any judgement of the Treaties betweene the Kingdomes Only because your Lordships have remitted us to the Declaration for satisfaction to our consciences as in other particulars so in this of the breaches We have humbly represented to your Lordships wherein we are not clear and satisfied in our consciences to consent and concur for our part upon such grounds And withall seeing it is not only our desire as Messengers of peace but your Lordships professed resolution in this Declaration that you will assay all Brotherly and amicable ways for repairing differences and making up breaches We recommend it to your Lordships serious thoughts whether it will not be most agreeable to that Brotherly way of proceeding between two Kingdomes in Covenant together to desire a Treaty with the Parliament of England concerning the breaches and demands mentioned in this your Declaration Especially seeing the way of Treaty was the way thought fit to be used in the years 1639. and 1640. before the Kingdomes were joyned in Covenant How much more now being so conjoyned are all possible and lawfull wayes to bee tried for preventing the effusion of more blood In your Lordships first demand which concerneth Religion there are some things wherewith wee cannot in our consciences bee satisfied as namely 1. Because the first two particulars therein contained viz. concerning the taking of the Covenant and practising of the Directory of Worship are pressed only upon Subjects which may be interpreted as tending to exempt the Kings Majesty not only from taking the Covenant which yet was laudably desired in the Propositions of both Kingd but from having the Directory of worship practised in his family which was a liberty that his Majesty reserved to himselfe in his late Concessions sent to us and in diverse messages before sent to the Houses of Parliament at Westm 2. We find nothing in this demand of any application to be made at or about the same time to the King for obtaining assurance from his Majesty for his Royall consent But of this we have expressed our selves more fully in answer to your Lordships Paper of the twentieth of this moneth 3. Althogh this is the second time your Lordships cite in this Declaration a passage of the joynt Declaration of both Kingdoms by which all that would not take the Covenant were declared to be publick enemies to their Religion and Countrey and that they are to be censured and punished as professed Adversaries and Malignants yet we find no such thing declared or resolved by your Lordships in this Declaration in reference to those who have not to this day taken the Covenant as that you will hold them all for professed Adversaries and Malignants We hope your Lordships will not think it just nor equall to presse such a rule upon the Parliament of England except your Lordships be pleased to walk according to that rule your selves 4. Your Lordships do simply and absolutely desire that the Confession of Faith transmitted from the Assembly of Divines at Westminster to the Houses be approven whereas the Act of the last General Assembly approving
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And not only to the utmost of our power with our mâ—an and lives to stand to the defence of our dread Soveraign his person and Authority in the prese vation of the true Religion and Liberties of the Kingdoms but also in every cause which may concern His Majesties Honour to concur according to the Lawes of this Kingdom and duty of good subjects Yet your Lordships know that no such interpretation bath beene made by the Assemblies of the Kirk of the Solemn League and Covenant as your Lordships are pleased here to make of it If it be said that your Lordships meaning was only of our Nationall Covenant yet it may be observed withall that the plain and grammaticall construction of the words will carry that interpretation either upon the Solemn League and Covenant only or both upon it and upon our Nationall Covenant However although our National Covenant only were here fixed upon concerning which there is such an expression in the supplication of the Generall Assembly Anno 1639. to his Majesties commissioner and the Lords of Secret Councell yet there are some weighty considerations which we humbly offer against the application of that Supplication of the Assembly to the present dusinesse for 1. His Majesty was at that time giving satisfaction to the publick desires of this Kirk concerning Religion We heartily wish we might say the like now 2. We do not see the Cause stated in the Declaration to be for his Majesties honour and so to fall within that duty expressed in the Declaration of the Generall Assembly And as one of the ends of the Covenant was his Majesties honour and happinesse and your Lordships also have acknowledged in your Oath of Parliament that the honour happinesse and greatnesse of the Kings Majesty doth depend on the purity of Religion as it is now established in this Kingdome So whatsoever crosseth or prejudiceth the grounds of the Covenant or any of the ends thereof cannot with us finde any such commendation as to be a cause which concerneth his Majesties honour 3. Whatsoever we owe to the King in civill matters distinct from the Cause of Religion sure all these other duties are with a subordination to the glory of God and good of Religion and we are very confident it was and will be far from the thoughts of the Generall Assembly under colour of his Majesties Honour to concur with him or any in his Name in a cause which is hurtfull and prejudiciall to the good of Religion and to the other ends of the Solemn League and Covenant yet the cause stated in the Declaration we humbly conceive to be such 4. It may be remembred that the Crosse-petition having cited the same clause of the said Petition of the Generall Assembly and making use thereof in order to an engagement in War in his Majesties quarrell against the Parliament of England was declared against by the Commission of the Generall Assembly Anno 1643. And among other particulars it was then declared that the limitations expresly mentioned in the words cited out of the Assemblies Supplication viz. according to the Lawes of this Kingdom and duty of good Subjects were interpreted by some that spake at the time in the generall Assembly to be all one as if it had been said within this Kingdome we not knowing of any Lawes of this Kingdome of further extent It was also then observed any may now be applied and remembred that the Nationall Covenant having been subscribed in the Yeares 1581. and 1590. before King James was King of England and being qualified in the particular Heads and Articles by expresse limitations and restrictions to this Kirk and Kingdome to the Religion Laws and Liberties of Scotland can no more be extended to municipall debates and to the Laws and Liberties of England unto which we are strangers then the Kingdom of England can judge of our Lawes and determine our differences the two Kingdoms being still independent each on other and not subordinate one to another as the first Article of the large Treaty fully declareth As to that we find in the close of the Declaration that this Kingdome of Scotland will now make it evident as they have often declared that their quietnesse stability and happinesse doth depend upon the safety of the Kings Majesties Person and maintenance of his greatnesse and Royall authority who is Gods Vicegerent set over us for maintenance of Religion and ministration of Iustice we shall only put your Sordships in mind that your National Covenant joineth with his Majesties Safety his good behaviour in his Office and saith That the quietnesse and stability of our Religion and Kick doth depend upon the saety and good behaviour of his Maiesty as upon a comfortable Instrument of Gods mercy granted to this Countrey for the maintenance of his Kirk and ministration of Justice Otherwise if a King do not his duty for the Maintenance of the true Religion and Ministration of Iustice it is ot his safety alone that make his Peaple to be in quietnesse and happinesse Withall as our quietnesse and happinesse dependeth on his Majesty and his doing of his duty as an Instrument and Minister of God for good So the Honour Greatnesse and Happinesse of the Kings Royall Majesty and the welfare of the Subjects depend upon the purity of Religion as is well expressed in your Lordships Oath gf Parliament And now we shall with your Lordships favour and permission make this conclusion upon the whole matter That as we neither were nor are against an Engagement with this Kingdom in War but have been and shall be willing to consent thereto if once satisfied in our consciences concerning the clearnesse lawfulnesse and necessity of the Cause and quarrell and concerning our calling manner of proceeding Instruments to be entrusted security to be had for Religion and other particulars contained in our former Papers not yet satisfied by your Lordships So we are necessitate to professe and declare to your Lordships that we cannot we dare not in our consciences agree to an Engagement upon such grounds and in such a way as is stated in your Lordships Declaration And therefore for our exoneration do dissent from the whole complex businesse in the said Declaration as not containing clear and convincing grounds of undertaking of a Warre nor providing for the security of Religion nor clearly disclaiming his Majesties late Concession and offers as unsatisfactory nor tending to the suppression of the Malignant party but rather to compliance with them as we humbly conceive nor preserving the Liberties and known interest of the Kirk nor proposing the way of Treaties and all other wayes of Peace to be sought and assayed before a Warre For which reasons and others before mentioned upon the particular heads of the Declaration we plainly declare our dissent from the complex circumstantiat state of the present businesse contained in the said Declaration and take to witnesse God Angels and men that your Lordships have not
wanted warning from the Watchmen And that we shall be free of all the distractions confusions miseries and blood which may follow upon your Lordships proceeding to an engagement in Warre upon the grounds of the Declaration We further call to record the searcher of all hearts and the righteous Judge of all the world that our not concurring proceedeth not from want of zeal against Sectaries nor from any remissenesse in that which may concern his Majesties true Honour and Happinesse and the preservation of Monarchicall Government in him and his Posterity nor from any want of tendernesse of the Priviledges of Parliament nor from any want of sympathie with our afflicted and oppressed Brethren in England In reference to all which our proceedings have been and shall be we trust reall testimonies of our affection and sincerity But our not concurring proceedeth meerly from tendernesse in the point of security of Religion and union between the Kingdoms and from the unsatisfactorinesse of the grounds of your Lordships Declaration as hath been expressed in the particulars Wherefore we humbly beseech your Lordships to interpret favourably and charitably any liberty which we have used the matter being such as lyeth sad and weighty upon our Consciences and that your Lordships would also be pleased to be mindfull of making good that passage of your Declaration where you say that you are resolved not to engage in any War before the necessity and lawfulnesse thereof be cleared so as all who are well-affected may be satisfied therewith Which if your Lordships shall be pleased to do there is a door of Hope yet open and we shall not cease to pray unto the Lord as he shall assist us that a Spirit of counsell and understanding and of the fear of the Lord may be upon you and tha God would graciously rid both your Lordships and us out of all hid and lurking shares and so guide your Lordships as that there may be yet a sweet and harmonious joining of hearts and hands upon right Principles Grounds and motives in a right way and for the right ends A. Ker. Edinb 6. Iunii 1648. The humble Vindication of the Commissioners of the Generall Assembly and their late Proceedings In Answer to the LETTER of the High and Honourable Court of PARLIAMENT Dated May 11. to the severall Presbyteries in the Kingdom ALthough we doubt not but the particular Presbyteries will sufficiently return answer to the Parliaments Letter so far as concerneth them wherein divers Presbyteries have already given example to the rest yet the chief purposes of that Letter reflecting all along upon our late proceedings and the Letter being also printed and published for common view and use The great trust put upon us will not allow us to be silent in such a case And the greater cause we have to vindicate our proceedings in this manner because whilest we had just reason to expect from the Parliament a clear and reall satisfaction to our desires seconded by so many Provinciall Synods in stead of such satisfaction that Letter came abroad with many reflections upon our proceedings neither was any thing hereof communicat or made known from their Lordships to us that we might have been heard for clearing our own actions before the divulging and spreading abroad of the Letter To the Preface of the Letter we answer that as it is too manifest how many and great scandals are thrown upon us and our proceedings by the favourers of Malignants and haters of Reformation and Presbyteriall Government So we know not either among our selves or in any Assemblies of the Church of Scotland and favourers of Sectaries or haters of the Person of the King and of Monarchicall Government who throw scendals upon the Parliaments actions And if any shall by sufficient proof discover any such in this Kingdom it will quickly appear how far the Assemblies of this Church and we for our part shal be from conniving at or beating with them yea the Generall Assembly and Commissioners have already declared so much and so often both for the preservation of the Monarchicall Government in his Majesty and his posterity and against Sectaries And there hath been also so long and reall proofe both of the loyalty of this Reformed Church of Scotland to his Majesties Father and to himselfe and of zeale in executing Church Discipline against Sectaries wherever any were found that the world may bear witnesse with our Consciences of our integrity both in the one and in the other although we should altogether hold our peace Error will sooner comply with errour then truth can and favourers of Malignants have been and may againe turne to be favourers of Sectaries to serve their turne and save their interest for the time For our part as we did before so we doe still clearly and ingeniously professe that we looke upon Sectaries and Malignants as enemies to be opposed as rocks to be avoided on the right and left hands We see no cause why the severall Presbyteries need to be conjured as they will answer to the great God not to suffer themselves to be possest with unjust and undeserved prejudices against the Parliament and their proceedings The fear of God conscience of their duty wil keep them upon the one hand from unjust and undeserved prejudices against their Lordships and their proceedings and upon the other hand from obeying unjust Decrees and complying with iniquity although established by a Law What their Lordships professe concerning their preferring of no earthly thing to their duties for Religion and concerning their reall endeavours to satisfie the most tender consciences by their Lordships great complyance with our many desires All this wee leave to the searcher of the hearts and tryer of the reynes who can and will judge thereof This we can say for our selves that to this day we have not received a satisfactory Answer from their Lordships unto any one of our desires presented to their Lordships for the safety and security of Religion but under colour of yeelding somewhat our desires were more dangerously refused then if they had been flatly rejected If that which followeth in the Letter hold good viz. That it cannot be by any with truth and justice alleadged that their Lordships have in the least measure wronged or violated the true Priviledges and Liberties of the Church we are greatly to be blamed and censured for complaining in one of our Papers to the Parliament that their Lordships have very much prejudiced the true priviledges and liberties of this Kirks and for protesting upon that occasion against such preparatives and for preservation of the liberties of the Kirke in time comming But now how much truth and justice wee had for the ground of our grievance and protestation all who will not shut their eyes against the cleare light may easily understand For was it ever before heard or knowne that any Parliament of this Kingdome did without the knowledge and consent of those who had for the time