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A44308 The non-conformists champion, his challenge accepted, or, An answer to Mr. Baxter's Petition for peace written long since, but now first published upon his repeated provocations and importune clamors, that it was never answered : whereunto is prefixed an epistle to Mr. Baxter with some remarks upon his Holy Common-wealth, upon his Sermon to the House of Commons, upon his Non-conformists plea for peace and upon his Answer to Dr. Stillingfleet. / by Ri. Hooke. R. H. (Richard Hooke); Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. Petition for peace.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. Holy commonwealth.; Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. Sermon of repentance. 1682 (1682) Wing H2608; ESTC R28683 62,409 170

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Laying on of the hands of the Presbytery whether the Lawn be de essentia to the Ceremony and the Hands avail nothing without the Sleeves on Sir St. Paul appealed to Caesar you cannot but appeal to the Higher Powers It seems with you there are Higher Powers than Caesar And as you mistake the Object so you do the Subject matter or Case of your Appeal which should be Whether Timothy who was ordained by the Laying on of the hands of the Prebytery was not again ordained by the Laying on of the hands of St. Paul and the Higher Powers may put you to prove your selves ordained as was Timothy which will be a little difficult and your Quoeries will be to them as hard Whether the hands of the Presbytery were without Sleeves Whether Saint Paul had Lawn Sleeves Whether Ordination be a Ceremony Whether a Ceremony hath any thing belonging to it de essentia Important Quoeries all these verily and fit to be revised and judged by the Higher Powers if you knew who they were but alas you do not as you complain in your Sermon to the House of Commons If then you would take my counsel refer it Brother Cheny One thing I am mighty sorry to see and say This wise case is ushered in with a gross leasing when just before you affirm the case was such That there was no other than Presbyterian Ordination to be had here in the late times Truly if your good will might be taken for the deed there was no other to be had But in the late times my self and hundreds more had Episcopal Ordination But quoere whether it were valid you having taken away their Lawn Sleeves and Rochets and Rochets to which might be de essentia to the Ceremony One thing more I must observe and then I shall end your Trouble and 't is my own great trouble that I must observe it and rebuke you for it you say in your Preface Ans to Dr. Stillingfleet I am past doubt that Richard Hooker Bishop Bilson and BishopVsher where they now alive would be Non-conformists And you said it before as I remember elsewhere Sir Your being past doubt puts us past our faith in your assertions no body will believe what you say while you talk at this rate and blemish the precious memory of such venerable Persons two of them having been the highest Assertors of Conformity since the Reformation and have left us for it their Monuments in writing incomparable and unanswerable Pray Sir How came you by this Plerophy Have their Ghosts appeared unto you and informed you that they have been convinced in another world that they erred in thinking there ought to be Church Order and Vniformity in this And Have they told you for no body else could what sort of Non-conformists they would be Those of the first Edition in Forty two or those of the second in Sixty two Would they when Non-conformity was rampant have risen up against the King and Church and with you cryed up the good Cause and pluckt up the perpetual Government of Christ's Church and the Ecclesiastical Polity root and branch and in order to a thorough Beformation taken the Solemn League and Covenant and with you taken up Arms for the Parliament Or Would they now having answered onely the old Objections when alive be so stagger'd with your new ones that that one alone of the erroneous Kalendar would be a flaming Sword to keep them from entring Sir Hereafter talk things crediible such Romances become you not What would your Censure be should we affirm we are past doubt that Mr. Cartwright Traverse and Brown were they now alive would turn Conformists One thing in the Epistle to your Plea I omitted is fit here to be remarked your Complaint that you have been called on to tell what it is that you would have as if you had told it and we well knew it But truly Sir 't is a very hard Question which we think you neither have nor can tell One thing you would have to day another to morrow a little will content you when you are under but nothing will content you when you are uppermost When you writ your Petition for Peace you would have Bishop Usher's model and could yield to Bishops and Archbishops When you writ your Answer to Dr. Stillingfleet you would have your Grievances proposed to the Higher Powers and would have the Higher Powers strip the Bishops of their Lawn Sleeves We know by what measures you proceeded in Forty one from Petitioning to Protestation thence to Covenanting to Arming to Sequestring till you had levelled all before you and overturned the Government of both Church and State I am very unwilling to mention your past Actings but that you give us great cause to think you would be acting the same things again and do in effect tell us What you would have But What you would not have you can better tell us No Bishops no Liturgy no Canons for decency and order in the publick Worship no King but upon such terms if you be the Casuists who resolved upon the prospect of the King's Restoration That in that state of things the King could not justifie the resuming of his Government nor his people the submitting to it But your Non-conforming Brethren best know your minde Let them tell you and us what you would have had when you had all You complain of your Misery Bondage and Slavery of Oppressions Sorrows and Troubles of the Church that is doubtless of the Church Presbyterian and no other What doth all you What troubles you who doth oppress you have you not Authority on your side have you not all the Church livings in the Kingdom have you not Declaration upon Declaration Ordinance upon Ordinance Order upon Order to back you Is there the least shew of Oppression Sorrow or Cause of complaint administred unto you except it be because you are not suffered to oppress vex and gall your Brethren that joyn not with you Can you feed upon nothing but Bloud yea the Bloud of your Brethren that though you have every thing else that onely prohibited you complain of Sorrow Slavery and Oppression that you cannot enslave and lead into Captivity Is this to kill you with the Sword that you cannot kill your Brethren with the Sword THE NON-CONFORMISTS CHAMPION HIS CHALLENGE ACCEPTED 1. WHEN God had in mercy and faithfulness unto David delivered him from the Sword of Saul and set him upon the Throne of Israel the first thing he esteemed himself obliged unto in duty and gratitude was to set up God's Kingdom and settle his true Worship in Israel who had set up and settled him in that Kingdom To this end he brings the Ark of God in a Religious State and Triumph to Jerusalem which had been taken by the Philistines and remained some time with them in Captivity and after lodged in obscurity in the houses of Aminadab and Obededom His gracious Majesty our David