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A76129 The light and dark sides of God or A plain and brief discourse of the light side (God, Heaven and angels.) The dark side (Devill, sin, and Hell.) As also of the Resurrection and Scripture. : All which are set forth in their severall natures and beings, according to the spirituality of the Scripture. / Written by Jacob Bauthumley. Bauthumley, Jacob. 1650 (1650) Wing B1165B; ESTC R16169 44,323 100

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grosse and carnall conceit of God But I shall not enter upon any thing controvertall onely I shall give you what is made out in me and I conceive no other what the Scripture holds out in the letter and so it is true that there are three that bear record in Heaven and yet these three but one He doth not speak three persons but three and that thus as farre as I conceive The Father is God from all eternity who 's Being was in himself having all Beings wrapt up in himself This God letting himself and his Being in severall formes of flesh is God the Son For I do not apprehend that God was onely manifest in the flesh of Christ or the man called Christ but that he as really and substantially dwells in the flesh of other men and Creatures as well as in the man Christ though as the Scripture speaks he was the most express Image and that the fulnesse of the God-head dwelt bodily in him that is in respect of manifestation but otherwise I conceive that God who cannot admit of degrees can be said to dwell in him more then another and I might shew that his Being in spirit is much more glorious then his Being in flesh the one being but a shadow and Type of the other But I forbear because it may afford another discourse of it self and returne to what we have in hand and that is that God the Sonne is God manifest in flesh Now that we call Holy Ghost is God living in Spirit and all these are not three distinct Beings onely one Being made out in three severall tearmes To make it a little plainer the Scripture saith God is Love and yet it tells us of a threefold Love The first is Gods Love to us the second is our Love to God the third is our Love to one another Now it is plaine these are not three but one For by the same Love that God loves us by the same Love we love him we love him because he loves us and it is the same Love by which we love one another and therefore the Apostle saith He that loves not his brother loves not God And so we have communion with God when we have communion with one another So that Gods Love to us and our Love to him and to one another are not three loves but one so in like manner Love is the Father this Love manifested in Flesh is the Sonne this Love loving the loved is the Holy Ghost and these three are one The Father is God forming all things the Son is God who is formed and manifested in Flesh the Holy Ghost is God manifesting or revealing the manifested thus the Father Son and Holy Ghost are not three persons but one intire Being made out in severall expressions And thus I have done with this subject concerning God being willing to loose my self in the thoughts of him as knowing that he cannot be known and that all words or expressions of Scripture or man come short of Him and do but confound and darken the glory of that great Creator who hath done all things according to reason and is himself the reason and ground of all things for in him they live and move and have their Being and therefore to Him be the Glory for evermore Concerning Heaven NOw for that which we call Heaven I cannot conceive it any locall place because God is not confined or hath his Being 〈◊〉 station in our setled compasse and therefore I see that true which the Letter speakes The Kingdom of Heaven is within you and so I see Heaven to be there where God displaies his own glory and excellency For Heaven is nothing but God at large or God making out himself in Spirit and Glory And so I really see that then men are in Heaven or Heaven in men when God appeares in his glorious and pure manifestations of himself in Love and Grace in Peace and rest in the Spirit when God shewes himself to be all the happiness comfort and reward and so this Heaven is not outward or a place of any outward or carnall bodily happines as men dream of but it consists in righteousness joy peace in the Holy Ghost all which are spirituall and terminated in God alone I do not as I have carnally conceived that when Paul was rapt up into the third Heaven and heard and saw things unutterable that he was bodily taken up or heard God with an audible voice No but I rather conceive it some extraordinary appearance of God filling the Spirit with glorious amazements and admirations of its own excellency So that when God doth gloriously appeare to the silencing of flesh and over-powering the selfish Being in man and fils the spirit with its own glory then is God and his Heaven come in the spirit and such an estate some may be have bin sensible of that they have so felt the over-powering of God in their spirits that they could not tell whether they were in the body or out of the body as was Pauls condition And this Heaven the Land of Canaan was a lively Type of wherein God after he had by a strong hand brought the Children of Israel from the bondage of Egypt and through many dangers of the Wildernesse and red Sea God at last brought them to a Land of rest in which this is really made out to me that it is the over-ruling power of God in us that takes us from the Egyptian bondage of self and flesh and through the Wildernesse and Sea much toyling and tossing up and downe in selfe-Workes and hard duties outward and carnall services the Law still beating us to Workes of prayer humiliation making us to make Brick without Straw and setting hard and cruell Task-masters over us so that we may say through many tribulations we must enter into the Kingdom of Heaven but when Gods power is destroying these enemies of our Peace and brings us into that Land of rest that spirituall Canaan which we speak of then do we cease from these labours But truly this I speake from experience so long as men are under Moses they cannot enjoy neither must they come into this Land And therefore I do not wonder that the Scripture speaks Many shall seek to enter and not be able and straight and rarrow is the gate and few there be that finde it I would not speak to discourage any but I really apprehend the greatest pretenders to Heaven scarce know what it is or will ever enjoy it but shall with Moses onely see it a farre off God not being willing to do any great workes in their spirits because of their unbelief but what happyness and comfort they do enjoy to whom God appeares thus spiritually in none know but themselves This is that heavenly Jerusalem spoken of in the Hebrewes into which the souls of just men made perfect are come into The text doth not say we shall come to it hereafter but that we are come
unto it and that we have full and actuall possession of it and so saith the Apostle Our conversation is in Heaven which is nothing but the glorious appearance of God in our spirits when of naturall we are made spirituall we shall see the Scripture speaks of no other Heaven but what is spirituall and not consisting of any corporall or bodily felicity as men conceive God being all the glory and happiness of the creature and so he that believeth hath everlasting life within him and abiding in him because God there gloriously makes out himself to be the Life and happiness To look for a carnall and sensible enjoyment of God distinct from that pure and divine Being of God savours to me of a carnall spirit because it sets up something beside God when there is nothing that lives and is glorious to all eternity but God For as I said before there is nothing in the creature capable of God or to enjoy his glory nor nothing is of God but is God because God cannot be devided nor none can share with him in his Glory he having not given any glory to any creature out of himself but what ever the creature apprehends to be its own glory it is truly and spiritually no other but Gods one Being and glory But the truth is as men fancy a high God though yet very carnally so they fancy a high place for him above the Starrs I know not where herein indeed God condescends to the weaknesse of men in the Scripture to set himself and his glorious presence out to us as if they were properly in one place more then another when as we know a Spirit is not any where confined but the God of Spirits is in all and through you all And so Heaven is his Throne the Earth his Foot-stool That is God is in low and dark appearances as well as in the most glorious God is the high and lofty one that inhabits eternity and not any circumscribed place and so he is in low Spirits And the truth is where God is highest in the Spirit he is so low in that Spirit that they do not desire any glory out of himself but are willing to be nothing that he may be all It is very true that the Scripture saith We looke for new Heaven and new Earth wherein dwells Righteousnesse And truly I find that where God dwells and is come and hath taken men up and wrapt them up into the Spirit there is a new Heaven and a new Earth all the Heaven I look ever to enjoy is to have my earthly and dark apprehensions of God to cease and to live no other life then what Christ spiritually lives in me The Scripture speakes likewise of a Kingdom and a City and Mantions and that Christ went to prepare a place for the Saints all which are true in the Spirit For when God raigns in the Spirit he brings all into subjection under him and so he is King and Kingdom himself and Christ went to prepare and to make out himself in Spirit and so he left the flesh to live in the Spirit and his spirituall coming was much more glorious then his carnall and visible presence with them And the truth is the one was but a predarative and fore-runner of the other so it so it is spiritually true that he that was least in the kingdom of Heaven was greater then John the Baptist where note that those carnall and outward observations of Baptisme and other administrations that John was in they were but the preparatives fore-runners of a more spirituall condition the Kingdom of Heaven not consisting in them And therefore it was reasoned Why do the Disciples of John Fast and Pray Luke 9. and thy Disciples Fast not and Christ gives them the reason It was his presence which is not to be understood of his carnall presence with them but of his spirituall presence which he promised to appear in them and therefore the Baptisme of the Holy Ghost and fire was the substance of which the water Baptisme was but a shadow and so he that was least in the spiritual Kingdom and had a spiritual enjoyment of him was greater then he that was the greatest and most strictest in the Observation of the outward Duties and Ordinances that John was under so that it is plain to me that the spiritual presence of Christ or God in the spirit is the Kingdom of Heaven into which whomsoever is entered he ceases from the outward and formal use of outward Administrations and Ordinances and to sits down spiritually in the Kingdom of the Father and is as the Apostle saith allready set down in the heavenly places and when God thus spiritually appears in you then you will be content with me to sit down and enter with me into an eternall nothingness and be willing to let God advance himself glorifie himself unto all eternity and so cast down your Crownes at his feet in everlasting silence Into which condition when you are brought you shall not need to expect any other Heaven for then shall you enter into that rest wherein you shall cease from that labour and toile of outward and formall duties as seeing God to be that in you which you expected in self If any shall say these things are true but these conditions and this estate is reserved for another life We cannot expect to be perfect here while we are in the flesh I answer that it is true we shall not that is there is nothing of us that is capable of this spirituall enjoyment and therefore we must know that our perfection lies not in any thing that the Creature is but it lies in God and in that respect unless you will say God is not so perfect here as he will be we are as perfect as ever we shall be so that though this spirituall condition be not of us yet it is in us and what Heaven or Estate God will be in when he ceases to live in the flesh I think is as vain for us to imagine as impossible to apprehend Yet if any man can tell me how he was before there was a World I shall with as much ease tell him how he will be when the World ceases to be and however men are so carnal women like that they dream of a Heaven wherein they shall sit one at the Right hand of God and another at the left and hope to have much outward felicity and glory when they have glorified bodies as they imagine yet for my part I look for no such condition and I see nothing in the Scripture to strengthen me in such a conceit For however it speakes of a City that hath twelve gates and streetes paved with Gold and yet I suppose all do but point out the glorious condition that God will appear in upon Earth and therefore I mind that there was a Jerusalem that it is said came down from God out of Heaven In which there