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A88290 The starry messenger; or an interpretation of that strange apparition of three suns seene in London, 19. Novemb. 1644. being the birth day of King Charles. The effects of the eclips of the sun, which will be visible in England, 11. August 1645. whose influence continues in force, from January, 1646 to Decemb. 1647. almost two whole yeares; and cannot but be the fore-runner of some extraordinary mutation in most common-wealths of Europe, but principally in England. With an answer to An astrologicall judgement. Printed at Oxford, upon his Majesties present martch. / By William Lilly student in astrologie. Lilly, William, 1602-1681.; Wharton, George, 1617-1681. Astrologicall judgement upon His Majesties present martch. 1645 (1645) Wing L2245; Thomason E288_17; ESTC R200103 40,051 61

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c. of which anon I particular out no one Quis enim prudens id periculi subiret What man would run such a hazard of danger Licet Astronomiae Magiae pertissimus ut Principi alicui aut Regi Caesarivè in os diceret tibi hoc accidet tu occideris glande trajicieris subditi tui te Regno exuunt ejicient in exilium agent subditi tui dat● fide violata rebellione facta te repudiabunt Domino alio jurabunt What an Asse were the Astrologian or skilfull Magician saith Paracelsus if upon the appearance of a Prodigious Sight in the Elements he should say to the face of a Prince King or Emperour Such a thing shall happen unto thee Thou shalt be slain knockt in the head with a Bullet Thy Subjects shall spoil thee and cast thee out of thy Kingdom Thou shalt live a banished man in another Countrey Thy own Subjects or People notwithstanding their Fealty or Homage done shall violate their Faith given raise Rebellion repudiate and scorn thy Acts and Person and perform Service to some other Lord This is a pretty piece of Stuff If we believe the sayings of the wise that were curious in search after such like Prodigies you that are Emperours Kings Princes Dukes or the principall Rulers of all Common-wealths in Europe have reason to be carefull of your selves and to thank me for putting you in minde of such things as these Be angry and you please I care not I must discharge my Conscience It s not unknown to the Learned that Europe is now at this time under the last Conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter in the Watry Trygon and signe of Pisces It s not unknown as I may say how preposterously and irregularly that Conjunction slips in betwixt two Conjunctions of the Fiery Triplicity the first entrance whereof was in 1603 and their Conjunction in the eighth degree of Sagittarius the very self-same signe degree and quarter of heaven the Sun and Moon are in upon this present Apparition King James came to be our English King that yeer In the full-Moon postventionall to the Comet 1618 the Sun was in the tenth degree of Sagittarius In the second Conjunction of Saturn and Jupiter 1623 the almost degree of this present Lunation did mediate heaven King Charles went into Spain that yeer In the yeer 1642 3 when Saturn and Jupiter made their last Conjunction the place of the Luminaries at this time was then the Cusp of the tenth house and the Sun now in Partill square to his then-place the Moon at this present her Latitude considered is in almost Partill Opposition to the place of Mars then The Scheam of heaven then and now differ very little or nothing at all This is written to satisfie Artists He that would know more let him repair to the Tract I wrote called Englands propheticall Merlin These are all Arguments and not mean ones of premonition to a Family and that no mean one That a storm and that also a furious one is ready to rush down upon their heads Doubtlesse this Prodigie is a more neer and significant Interpreter then any hath been this half Century of yeers of that fatall Doom hanging at this time as it were in the Air by a twine threed over some obstinate and sinking Progenies in Europe These three Suns shew acceleration of what hath mercifully a long time been forborn and that now after so many Warnings divine Providence will not be deluded by the strugling or frail and brittle policie of man Cardan hath such words as these Seg. 5. Apho. 67. Cumque tres Soles eodem modo in ambitu medii Circulus completus ac permanens ad modum Iridis eo anno in Civitate libera nascetur ex Civibus Rex quod si cum hoc Stella apparuerit in die lucida erit in eadem hora When three Suns appear and in the compassing round of the middle one a complete Circle is permanent in manner of a Rainbowe in that yeer in a free Citie or Common-wealth there's born of some Citizen one that shall be a King But if upon the time of such an appearance some glorious Star shew it self in the day-time the Infant is born the same hour mutatis mutandis The words of this learned Philosopher stretch to this sense That when such a Prodigie as he speaks of appears it shews or is the antecedent of some new Principality or some notable Priviledges to be obtained or the birth or rise of some man or Common-wealth to Sovereignty and to that supreme Command which was not before Believe me O all you great ones there 's some such Monster in hatching as the depriving of many of you of that Freedom your Ancestours left you c. If we take signification from the predominant Planet we shall acquaint you in plain English That Religion shall be a strong Pretender and a painfull Stickler in most Common-wealths for some yeers Venus as now posited tells you how much some sober and modest Judgements endeavour to settle things purely soberly and legally But if you look into the third house you shall finde Saturn Retrograde and in opposition to her Master Booker saith Saturn signifies Tom Jew and Jack Jesuite Bona fide I say That we are hereby premonished of men in our Common-wealth that are as superstitious as the Jew and malicious as the Jesuite and that these hodge-podge mixture of shallow-brains shall disturb all our proceedings Good God! that so much deceit and hypocrisie should be veiled and we continue ignorant of the Plot thereby intended What incongruous and inconsistent Opinions even to reason it self do I foresee by this froward and malicious Aspect of Saturn shall appear in the world vex all or most Nations undo almost every State and Common-wealth Methinks here's to be plenty of Ambassadours severally employed What Conclusion they shall make the Retrogradation of Jupiter in the fifth tells you Worse and worse Tinker-like mend one hole and make two or if you will Salve up a little Breach and not long after make one five times greater Mutuall Assistance shall be pretended and one Nation or Common-wealth leagues with another but to what purpose That Policie which in the conception of the wisest Statist is held most convenient for his Prince and Countrey even in that very point shall his King or State suffer most detriment Can we delude God or have the Stars no Influence or can we by Art or Nature make the two unnecessary invironing Suns which are no better then Scar-crows or outward appearances to be reall proper and materiall ones I must deal plainly that we in England for Saturn is in Aries the Ascendant of England under pretence of a glorious shew for Reformation in divine matters intend deceitfully and that mischievous Intentions under religious Pretensions are most viperously cloked But upon maturer Consideration while I see the hand of the Almighty deading and dulling our understandings
cloudy windy rainy and what not I did not observe for a long time such variety of blustring and unnaturall Weather which I conceive was occasioned by the late Opposition of Saturn and Venus and the matutine setting of the Virgiliae and other most violent fixed Stars which according to Stadius Hiemem pluviosam denuntiant It is also the opinion of Plinie Succularum Pleiadum occasus Terra Marique turbidum esse Nor may we forget the accesse of the Sun to Cor Scorpii to lessen any ill Weather the days precedent c. Here 's Naturall causes for the ill Weather preceding so many days together but no cause in Natvre to induce a belief that the three Suns were occasioned from Nature I am clearly of opinion These Sights as well as many others were caused by those tutelary Angels who by Gods permission and under him have the Government of the English Common-wealth They are sensible of those many impending Miseries now too plentifully amongst us Their conference with man now as in the days of old very few attain unto it being a blessing sought after by many attained unto by few And yet there are some of opinion There lives in the world some and of those some a small Party in England that know more then they utter and either by Vision or verball Colloquie have the knowledge of future events yea even from the blessed Angels But alas these are Riddles I must adhere unto my Astrologie and yet wish all happinesse to those good souls that either confer with their own Genius whom some call A good Angel or with such other of those heavenly Ministers whom God in mercy affordeth them And herein let no Reader mistake me for I abhor Witches or those Necromancers that raise the deceased out of their graves or those Circular Priests now almost worn out of the world My meaning is this That I do believe there are many now living to whom God by his Angels gives Revelation of things to come And where and to whom God gives such a blessing I believe that Saint may lawfully use the Talent God hath enabled him with But I leave this obsolete though excellent Learning to another Discourse and come to the Text it self I do somewhat adhere to Cardan Seg. 4. Apho. 94. Signa circa Solem in Luna vel Stellis aut circa eas tum in Coelo valdè aliena a naturali cursu si locum ubi apparent figuram Coeli cum hoc ea hora ab initio in finem observabis intellegere possis quid significent Viz. If you observe any strange forms or signes about the Sun or in the Moon or Stars or neer unto them and those unusuall signes are strange or contrary to a naturall course consider the place where they appear and compare the Figure of heaven with it set to the beginning of their appearance and considered untill its end and then you may understand the signification thereof The better to direct me in my Judgement I have erected three Scheams of heaven and according to my mean Capacity judged thereupon of the effects of these three Suns Neither indeed is Cardanus single in his Judgement for Ludovicus de Rigiis Apho. 88. lib. 2. saith Monstruosa corpora portenta quando ultra modum acciderint hora ipsorum consideranda est nihil accidit quin a corporibus supercoelestibus designetur effectus Monstrous bodies and seldome seen when beyond nature they chance to shew themselves the hour of their first being is to be considered there 's no such things happen but the effects thereof are designed from the supercelestiall bodies And though this may seem strange to most men that shall read this Discourse yet I hope the Judgement following shall in some measure better satisfie them if they will have patience first to read it warily and then to observe the generall Affairs of England and all or the most part of Christendom presently or within a little compasse of time subsequent Nor let any humorist presse me too hard for reason in every thing falls from my Pen Multa res sunt quae non videntur ratione naturali esse effectus quidem earum per formas superiorum corporum considerare possumus habereque eas si in tempore proprio investigatae quaesitaeque sunt Rigel Lib. 2. Apho. 77. Many things do come to passe for which we can give no naturall reason we may attain to discern the effects by the forms of superiour Bodies and exactly to know them if we search and look after them in their proper times By which this learned Grecian intends that the true notion of what may be signified by these late disastrous three Suns or any other unnaturall Apparition is most easily attained by taking the exact time of their first appearance and then the erection of a Scheam of heaven And this I finde further confirmed by Cardanus Apho. 95. Seg. 40. Monstra verò portenta clades mortes hominum sed non eodem modo neque statim significant oportet autem exortus eorum considerare sed illorum casus vis non est praesentis contemplationis The meaning whereof is to inform you that upon any generall Misfortune happening or any sudden Calamity chancing amongst men you are to observe the first time of its motion and thereby frame your Astrologicall Judgement upon the Accidents subsequent Its first considerable in what nature kinde or thing this prodigious Appearance shall manifest it self in and upon what kindes of Men People Kingdoms or Countreys and lastly its Determination c. Of all which I will treat but not methodically for some reasons best known to my self c. For let it be considered how dangerous it is to speak truth in significant Language in this Age and at this time when Opinion is more prevalent then sober Judgement and when a word modestly misplaced may more puzzle me by information of some seeming-Saint Coxcomb then either reall Treason against my Prince or Blasphemy in Religion c. But I slight these pedantick Informers BE it known then unto all men by these Presents That Hujusmodi imagines figurae multa minantur frequenter enim aut Civitati ali●ui aut Regioni aut Regno vel Principi Regi Caesarivè quae expressis alias verbis sibi dici non tolerarent Such Sights as these three Suns or other Images or terrible Figures appearing in the heavens do threaten many things frequently either to some City Region Kingdom Prince or Emperour and further these are manifested in such extraordinary manner in the heaven by Signes because such persons as above named will never suffer any man in plain words to acquaint them with so much The Apparition being visible in England the whole Kingdom is concerned more or lesse The Lord of the tenth in the seventh House Retrograde our prime men of all Qualities are intended to share in the Mischief hereby portended Kings Princes Nobility
Towns desolation I cannot shorten those Miseries I see depending on this Influence or convert the Signes fixed into moveable for the Evils portended are to be maliciously permanent A crooked and perverse Generation of men hath cunningly ensnared all or most part of Europe in these preposterous Wars now on foot Lord God of heaven direct the heart of some wise man to salve these grievous Maladies We have already handled the Effects which may attend that unusuall Apparition of the three Suns and now leaving our former Method undertook onely to benefit such as are not conversant in Judgement of Eclipses we come more neerer to what we first intended THe Effects of this Eclipse shall not determine untill December 1647 untill which time we shall have eight Eclipses but hardly any but one visible in England or Europe There doth also in this interval of time happen about fifty Conjunctions of the Planets amongst themselves which are materially considerable and ought to be made use of And herein I mention no Lunations c. Scito quod in Eclipsi Solis non potest fieri quin significetur magnum aliquod accidens secundum quantitatem Eclipsis Junctinus in Speculo fol. 310. Whosoever thou art that readest these lines I would have thee know That no Eclipse of the Sun can be but some grand matter is signified thereby according to the quantity or greatnesse of the Eclipse And if you will know more particularly or something more neer the matter Junctine tells us Eclipses Luminarium in Triplicitate ignea denuntiant armentorum pecudumque interritus magni Regis seu Principis exilium carceres aut internecionem An Eclipse of the Lights in the fiery Triplicity doth signifie and declare the destruction of whole Herds of Cattel and their death as also some famous King or Prince his Exile or Banishment his restraint of liberty or Captivity whether you will as also his Slaughter The Signe wherein this Eclipse is all men know is of the forementioned Triplicity its warning enough to be thus plainly dealt withall What Junctine saith of Kings I say of Nobles great Peers Knights c. Inter plebeios potentiores odia mutuas simultates dissidia magni excercitus motum Bella horrida hominum strages incendia furta rapinas depopulationes The Eclipse denounceth rancour and malice betwixt the vulgar person or Commonalty and great persons pretty dissembling with each other disagreements in Opinion the motion of some great Army horrible Wars multitudes of men slain many curious Buildings burned to the ground much Theevery pillaging and plundering many Towns Villages and Countreys depopulated or left naked of Inhabitants Shall our troubles be so great we shall expect all those forenamed Miseries I pray God divert his Judgements and make us penitent ere those threatned Mischiefs light on our heads Again Praegnantium abortivos acutas febres epidemiam ob aëris uredinem caumata frugum sterilitatem annonae penuriam in Regionibus praecipuè quae Eclipsis Signo subjiciuntur excellentem mutationem Women shall miscarry men shall have sharp Feavers in universall Plague and Pestilence caused by heats and blastings of the air great scarcity of fruits want of Provision for man as Victuals Corn Provision c. These things are more vigorously to operate to those Kingdoms subject to the Signe of Leo then to Aries and Sagittarius Some famous Alteration It may be feared that of Cardan will prove too true Eclipsium Solis effectus potentes sunt unde si in florentem messem inciderint sterilitatem afferunt Cardanus Seg. 2. Apho. 16. The operations of a Solar Eclipse are powerfull which if they fall to be in the beginning of a flourishing Harvest they shew a Barrennesse to follow Our Eclipse at this time is in August when we in the South of England and generally over all the Kingdom are busie in getting it in I pray God make our Harvest fruitfull and blesse the Husbandman with a plentifull Crop and a peaceable enjoying what he hath taken sore pains for We may fear some Disaster amongst us at that time and my Judgement may prove more reall then I wish But the decay of Tillage and Husbandry is the least thing though very considerable which is intended by the Eclipse we must elevate our Conceptions men of an higher strain and condition are aimed at Doth the Eagle catch at Flyes Shall an Eclipse in a Fiery Signe and a Kingly House principally intend the vulgar man or private Countrey-Gentleman No Arma Bella horrida Virumque cano c. In truth there 's War Famine a grievous devouring and destructive Vengeance to be poured down upon some unthankfull Families of Europe of which without doubt some live in our own Countrey of England some in Scotland many in Ireland Upon what House Man or Family in particular there I must be silent The Star in Cassiopeia 1572 those many apparitions of Comets since those unaccustomed Sights in the Air greater and lesser Conjunctions of the Planets in the Fiery Trygon multitude of Eclipses both Solar and Lunar are the sad Messengers of the downfall of one nay I say of many egregiosu Families of Europe Yet if my search into the most secret Cabinet of Astrologie doth not delude my impartiall Judgement my more serious Conceptions tell me There 's a Man or a Family in Europe is not far from attaining an excesse in Dominion and Soveraignty The time of this Mans growth or Families● to such an height draws on and neer the time is not mensurable in days or moneths nor in Centuries of yeers the unnaturall War of every Countrey helps forward and prepares the matter whiles the good man if he be born sleeps quietly untill that Angel appointed for his Guardian excite him in a moment to rouze up his meditating thoughts and to convert Consultation into Action As the State of France now stands or Spain or Italy How incredible and improbable a thing do I speak of or should do if I should deliver That a man not yet in Action should turn the fate of those Kingdoms in a moment and like the Son of Thunder in lesse weeks or moneths not many yeers in lesse then man can imagine settle those vast Kingdoms as himself best likes and then dispose of other Kingdoms then in Distraction by Missives rather then the Sword c. But I forget my self I see Saturn Lord of the third and fourth House Retrograde in the seventh Saturnus praeest plebi sensibus infirmis ob hoc cum vitae inimicus sit facile tales omnés pereunt aggregatim Saturn hath command and represents old men every common Clown or vulgar man and every sick man because he is enemy to Nature Now such manner of men shall die and perish in whole companies or swarms Wo to the man that digs the ground and thinks to enrich himself by turning up fat furrows or in expectation of thriving Crops Wo to that aged man that