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A81424 A dialogue between the late King James and the Prince of Conty James II, King of England, 1633-1701.; Conti, Armand de Bourbon, Prince de. 1629-1666. 1697 (1697) Wing D1332B; ESTC R224916 5,612 24

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A DIALOGUE Between the Late King JAMES AND THE Prince of CONTY A DIALOGUE Between the Late King James AND THE Prince of CONTY Then spite of Fate we 'll thus combined stand And like true Brothers walk still hand in hand Rehearsal LONDON Printed for Richard Baldwin near the Oxford-Arms in Warwick-Lane 1697. A DIALOGUE Between the Late King JAMES c. K. James GOOD Morrow to your Majesty Pray what News from Poland P. of Conty Before I Answer your Majesty's Question I beg you would give me leave to refuse the Title of Majesty which you so generously give me till I am in Possession of my Right K. J. Oh Sir I must beg your Majesty's Pardon for That for if only Possession could justify that Title then it might be refused even to Me Has not our Great Protector the King of France called you his Brother and pronounced you King Can he be mistaken Has not Madam Maintenon received you as such Can she be deceived No no Sir we are certainly both Kings before God though we are kept out of our Kingdoms by Rebellious Subjects therefore without any more ado I beg your Majesty would lay aside your Modesty and Answer my Question P. C. Well Sir it shall be as your Majesty pleases then without any further Ceremony and in Answer to your Majesty's Question I must tell you My last Letters from my Kingdom say That the Rebellion grows to a very strong Head the whole Nation except the Primate and some few Needy Noblemen being engaged in it and they are like to do me no more Service by their Arms than the Primate by his Prayers But that which vexes me most is that I can no more get thither than I can to the Kingdom of Heaven for besides my own Subjects almost all the Princes in Europe are in Arms against me and refuse passage for me or my Troops through their Countries so that I must stand still and tamely see another take away my Right K. J. I am so sensible of the wrong done to your Majesty that I here freely offer your Majesty an Army of 30 000 Men and Fifty Sail of Ships which I will get ready as soon as ever I am settled in my Kingdoms P. C. I heartily thank your Majesty for your kind Offer but yet methinks I could wish something were done in the mean time K. J. Nay I beg your Majesty would take warning by my Misfortunes and never refuse so considerable a Force when it is offered you for I can assure you if I had accepted the Army which our good Brother the King of France would have sent me when I was Invaded I should still have peaceably enjoyed my Crowns but I was dissuaded from it by some who then were engaged in the designed Rebellion and have ever since continued to be my irreconcileable Enemies therefore pray Sir accept of them and don't fear being too Powerful P. C. Indeed Sir I think I need not fear that But pray where are your Majesty's Fleet and Army K. J. Why as for my Army I beg your Majesty would not laugh when I say it lies conceal'd in England for the Officers all have their Commissions the Soldiers are all Listed and at a certain Signal are to dig up their Arms out of the Ground and Form themselves into Bodies some of my Field-Officers indeed were taken off upon discovery of the late Design to Restore me and others of them have join'd with my Enemies but those Vacancies are filled up by Subalterns for the encouragement of the Service And when my Army is thus set on foot How easy is it to March to the Sea-ports and Seize the Fleet when it is laid up P. C. I fear your Majesty's Army will not prove so effective as I could wish it but if it should that seems to be a work of time and my Necessities require present Supplies for my Adversary the Elector of Saxony gains ground every day and for ought I know while we are speaking is Entring my Metropolis in Triumph Oh that I had but the same Army in Poland which your Majesty had first at Salisbury and afterwards in Ireland then would I shew the World how fit I am to Command and what I dare do for Empire then my Enemies should Bleed not I my Enemies should Fly out of the Kingdom not I And give me leave to tell your Majesty you are the first that ever left a good Army for a Bloody Nose when perhaps a cold Key put into your Majesty's Neck had saved all I have often ventured my Life to save another Prince's Kingdom and now cannot do it to save my own But I must beg your Majesty's Pardon I fear my Passion has transported me to say some Reproachful things which my heart never meant you K. J. Give me leave to tell your Majesty You are Young and Hasty God Almighty in his appointed time will settle all things to our Minds the ways of his Providence are past finding out Who would ever have thought that when my Brother and I Travelled these Parts several Years ago we should both have enjoyed our Three Kingdoms one after another Many are the troubles of the righteous but God will deliver them out of all says the Psalmist who was himself a King It must be confessed That your Majesty's Polish Subjects and my English ones are strangely possessed with the Spirit of Mutiny and Rebellion and value us Kings no more than no more than we do our Subjects P. C. I assure your Majesty I rely very much upon God's Providence and expect my Deliverance in his appointed time but yet Human Means are not to be neglected I would be glad methinks to hasten his Providence a little with a good Army nor can your Majesty think it strange if I wish he would appoint his time quickly since some people will pretend to say your Majesty did a little anticipate his Providence when you Succeeded your Brother but that 's only by the by The chief reason why I am so hasty is That a General Peace seems to be near at hand and then we shall both be for ever Excluded K. J. Oh Sir For that matter your Majesty needs only do as I have done to secure your self I think I may modestly say I have taken effectual Care about that matter nothing that is done at the Treaty of Peace can any ways affect me P. C. Why pray Sir what method has your Majesty taken K. J. Taken why Sir I have by the Advice of my Lord Melford and the rest of my Privy-Council published a Solemn Declaration wherein I tell the World flat and plain That the time and pains the Ambassadors spend at Riswick to Treat about a Peace is all lost and to no purpose that they reckon without their Host that though they all know who I am yet they seem to take no notice of me and therefore I conclude with protesting against all their Proceedings and declare That whatever is
agreed on there is Null Void and of no Effect that it cannot be good in Law nor shall it bind me or my Successors to the performance of any one Article This Declaration I have put under my Great Seal and have caused it to be printed by my own Printer at Paris lest they should plead Ignorance Thus I have given the World fair warning and left the Ambassadors without excuse so that if they proceed any further 't is at their own peril P. C. Truly Sir I think your Majesty has done all that was left for you to do but perhaps they have nor read your Declaration or if they have 't is odds against your Majesty they will not mind it K. J. Lord Sir how do you mean not read it Why Sir 't was printed and dispersed all over Europe and as for their not minding it Sir can your Majesty possibly think that so many able Ministers as are there met together and so vigilant to serve their Master's Interests will neglect a Declaration of that vast Importance whereon the Peace of all the Kingdoms and States in Europe depends P. C. Sir I am not versed in these matters and therefore I hope your Majesty will not think me impertinent if I trouble you with some Questions about them Pray Sir what would be the Consequence if they should not mind your Declaration K. J. The Consequence Lord Sir I told your Majesty but just now that if they did not all they should do at Riswick would signify nothing nothing at all Sir no more than the Acts of Parliament made in England during my Absence for these nine Years last past which are all void for want of my Royal Sanction why Sir they are drawing of Sham-Conveyances of Lands one to another without the Consent of the Proprietor P. C. Faith Sir As to the Acts of Parliament in England I think those that have been made in your Absence have signified more to France and You than all the Acts that were ever made there by any of your Family but let that pass For my part I 'll deal plainly with your Majesty I could wish they would have that regard to your Declaration which in Justice it deserves but I fear the worst for you know all the Princes in Europe are join'd in a strict Alliance with the Prince of Orange and disown your Power Then as to your Subjects in England I am told they don 't stick to say That truly there was a King James who reigned there about four Years and then died and was buried in Westminster-Abby with his Ancestors that they hear indeed he walks here in France but that he never yet appeared to any one in England K. J. Dead Lord Sir your Majesty 's own Reason must convince you of the contrary if I were Dead how could I be here and speak to your Majesty P. C. That is they mean you are a dead King since they have got another with whose Person and Government they are mightily pleased as your Majesty may judge by the vast Expence they have been at to maintain and preserve him against all his Enemies K. J. Dead I know very well they every one of them wish me Dead and rather than fail I suppose would Murther me as they did my Father but I fancy I shall be too cunning for them and keep out of their reach P. C. But Sir if your Majesty always keeps out of their reach how do you intend to mount the Throne again K. J. Why Sir I will not go over till I have an Army of at least 100000 Men which our kind Brother the King of France has promised me speedily P. C. But suppose Sir he should make Peace with the Allies K. J. Suppose Sir why you may as well suppose I will keep the Promises I make to my Protestant Subjects when I am restored as to imagine he will long keep the Peace if he should make one P. C. Well but we wander from the Point Sir all this time What 's to be done for me in Poland K. J. Done why the same as for me in England Sir P. C. I do not know what that is Sir your Majesty seems indeed to have several Projects in your Head but I don't find that any one of them is feisible for my part since it will be impossible for me to march an Army by Land into Poland as long as the Allies are Masters of all the Countries through which it must necessarily pass and for You to Transport an Army to England while they are Masters at Sea I confess I am of Opinion That we should first in a joint Memorial represent Our Case to the Congress at Riswick and then if they refuse to do Us Justice they will be answerable to God for all the Blood that shall hereafter be spilt upon Our Accounts K. J. Why truly I think your Majesty is in the right since it is a Christian's part to try all fair ways of Accommodation before he has recourse to Arms And therefore if your Majesty pleases My Lord Melford shall draw up our Memorial because he is a great Master of Rhetorick and gives such fine Turns to his Arguments that he almost persuades People against their Reason especially since he came from Rome where he improv'd himself mightily in that Study for want of other Business I cannot range it in such Order as he but I think this should be the Substance of it That forasmuch as here are Two Kings in France more than there should be who are shov'd out of their Kingdoms no body knows how nor wherefore and that they conceive it to be a great Absurdity that there should be more Kings than Kingdoms in the World they desire to know of this Wise Assembly Where they must Reign and who they are to govern that they may take their Measures accordingly That if it were left to their Choice they would go to their own Posts provided this Assembly will engage in their respective Master's Name That no Violence shall be offer'd to their Persons by their Subjects for that it is a very uneasy thing to Reign in fear of one's Life But in case that should not be thought expedient they are so willing to agree to any Terms of Accommodation that they are content to accept of Equivalents provided the Countries assigned to them be stockt with Subjects since Kings cannot reign happily by themselves without People to make War and pay Taxes That after they have given these many evincing Proofs of their Peaceable Inclinations especially I K. J. through the whole course of my Life in case these Proposals should not be hearken'd to they do declare That though they are unwilling to wade to their Thrones through Seas of Blood as well as of Water yet to their unspeakable Griefs they fear that must be the fatal Consequence since they cannot answer to God their Posterity or their own Consciences their suffering their Subjects to live quietly under Kings of their own that they like who though they may fancy themselves happy yet they deceive themselves 't is a false irregular Quiet and no true one can be found but under the Right King These things therefore the Two Kings offer to their Consideration and desire they would speedily weigh their Arguments as they value the Peace and Welfare of Mankind These if you think fit Sir shall be the Heads of Our Memorial and I 'll be bold to say if this will not do nothing will P. C. That I believe Sir Will your Majesty get this drawn up to morrow because no time is to be lost K. J. I can't to morrow Sir because there is to be a fine Fox Chace but next day I will not fail of it P. C. Well Sir I wish we may have Success in this Matter but for my part I am very doubtful of it K. J. Why to tell your Majesty the truth I can't say I depend much upon it my self however one would leave no stone unturned That which gives me the most solid Joy here in my Retreat is to think that all my Enemies will be Damn'd P. C. Ah Sir that 's very uncertain but I must now take my leave of your Majesty to wait on the Dauphine who expects me K. J. Well Sir let us part with this pleasant Thought That though our Enemies should keep possession of our Thrones and we Die in Exile Yet with this Comfort to our Graves we 'll go We 'll Reign Above while they but Reign Below And so Sir I am your Majesty's most humble Servant P. C. Sir I am yours aside This King is a mighty silly Creature I would the P. of O. had no more Sense than he FINIS