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B23579 A Reply of two of the brethren to A. S. wherein you have observations on his considerations, annotations, &c. upon the apologeticall narration : with a plea for libertie of conscience for the apologists church way, against the cavils of the said A. S., formerly called M. S. to A. S. : humbly submitted to the judgements of all rationall and moderate men in the world : with a short survey of W. R. his Grave confutation of the separation, and some modest and innocent touches on the letter from Zeland and Mr. Parker's from New-England. Goodwin, John, 1594?-1665.; Steuart, Adam. Some observations and annotations upon the Apologetical narration. Selections.; Parker, Thomas, 1595-1677. 1644 (1644) Wing G1198 108,381 124

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proclaim_v it_o unto_o the_o world_n that_o they_o do_v not_o arrogate_v it_o to_o themselves_o yet_o they_o do_v claim_v it_o yea_o and_o exercise_n act_n and_o make_v use_n of_o it_o from_o day_n to_o day_n as_o occasion_n require_v 1._o in_o contrive_v and_o publish_v their_o ordinance_n for_o call_v the_o assembly_n former_o mention_v they_o exercise_v such_o a_o power_n as_o we_o now_o speak_v of_o 2._o in_o limit_v those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v of_o the_o assembly_n to_o the_o subject_n or_o argument_n on_o which_o it_o be_v permit_v unto_o they_o to_o debate_v and_o treat_v as_o appear_v by_o the_o ordinance_n they_o do_v they_o do_v no_o less_o 3._o in_o appoint_v and_o order_v they_o not_o to_o determine_v or_o conclude_v of_o thing_n as_o they_o please_v by_o plurality_n of_o vote_n but_o to_o deliver_v their_o opinion_n and_o advice_n as_o shall_v be_v most_o agreeable_a to_o the_o word_n of_o god_n another_o proviso_n in_o the_o ordinance_n they_o do_v the_o same_o 4._o 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what_o do_v they_o else_o but_o claim_n and_o exercise_v such_o a_o directive_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o religion_n as_o we_o last_o distinguish_v if_o a._n s._n have_v any_o other_o notion_n of_o his_o directive_n power_n in_o matter_n of_o sect._n 7_o religion_n beside_o these_o three_o my_o soul_n have_v not_o yet_o enter_v into_o that_o his_o secret_n but_o wait_v for_o his_o open_v a_o door_n unto_o i_o by_o which_o it_o may_v he_o tax_v the_o apologist_n once_o and_o again_o for_o generality_n and_o obscurity_n in_o their_o expression_n but_o he_o that_o say_v a_o man_n shall_v not_o steal_v commit_v sacrilege_n himself_o 4._o whereas_o harp_v still_o upon_o the_o same_o string_n the_o sound_n whereof_o sect._n 8_o be_v so_o melodious_a in_o his_o own_o ear_n how_o harsh_a soever_o in_o other_o mens_fw-la he_o charge_v the_o apologist_n for_o go_v against_o the_o parliament_n intention_n in_o case_n they_o think_v that_o they_o shall_v judge_v of_o question_n in_o debate_n 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judge_n whether_o that_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o external_a power_n without_o the_o church_n if_o it_o be_v reply_v no_o because_o that_o church_n do_v implicit_o consent_v in_o yield_v their_o elder_n for_o member_n of_o that_o presbytery_n we_o reply_v that_o if_o either_o your_o public_a law_n constrain_v that_o church_n upon_o penalty_n eth._n invitum_fw-la dicitur_fw-la quod_fw-la quis_fw-la vel_fw-la coactus_fw-la vel_fw-la per_fw-la ignorantiam_fw-la admittit_fw-la arist_n eth._n l._n 3._o c._n 1._o kecker_n praecog_n sy_v eth._n against_o their_o light_n to_o suffer_v their_o elder_n to_o sit_v in_o the_o classical_a presbytery_n than_o that_o church_n do_v not_o free_o consent_v or_o if_o that_o church_n without_o constraint_n do_v consent_n for_o want_v of_o light_n as_o it_o must_v be_v suppose_v if_o a_o classis_fw-la upon_o debate_n be_v find_v to_o be_v beside_o the_o word_n this_o ignorant_a act_n of_o that_o church_n be_v a_o unwilling_a or_o involuntary_a act_n and_o so_o no_o free_a consent_n and_o so_o the_o classis_fw-la according_a to_o a._n s._n his_o distinction_n be_v like_o a_o magistrate_n which_o be_v a_o bishop_n without_o and_o about_o that_o church_n but_o good_a a._n s._n we_o know_v it_o be_v a_o easy_a matter_n to_o distinguish_v the_o magistrate_n sect._n 12_o into_o such_o a_o executive_a coercitive_a external_a power_n as_o you_o speak_v of_o but_o we_o will_v fain_o see_v you_o demonstrate_v he_o into_o it_o and_o then_o a._n s._n and_o m._n s._n shall_v be_v no_o more_o two_o but_o one_o s._n we_o know_v not_o how_o to_o transform_v distinction_n into_o demonstration_n his_o second_o distinction_n be_v of_o the_o subject_a of_o this_o power_n the_o magistrate_n who_o he_o make_v twofold_a true_o christian_a and_o not_o true_o christian_n but_o 1._o i_o will_v fain_o know_v by_o what_o touchstone_n a._n s._n will_v try_v his_o gold_n in_o this_o case_n i_o mean_v judge_n of_o the_o truth_n of_o christianity_n in_o a_o magistrate_n it_o appear_v from_o page_n 50._o of_o his_o discourse_n that_o he_o have_v no_o mind_n to_o grant_v his_o truth_n of_o christianity_n unto_o a_o magistrate_n that_o be_v either_o lutheran_n anabaptist_n socinian_n or_o papist_n any_o of_o these_o misprision_n in_o christianity_n be_v as_o sufficient_a in_o a._n s._n his_o judgement_n as_o in_o we_o to_o keep_v the_o sword_n of_o that_o power_n we_o speak_v of_o out_o of_o the_o magistrate_n hand_n and_o as_o for_o a_o magistrate_n who_o judgement_n shall_v be_v infect_v perfect_v reason_n and_o truth_n will_v say_v with_o apologisme_n or_o the_o great_a hatred_n of_o his_o soul_n independency_n i_o make_v no_o question_n but_o he_o in_o the_o comic_a term_n shall_v be_v exclusissimus_fw-la from_o this_o capacity_n or_o right_n above_o all_o the_o rest_n but_o let_v we_o go_v on_o with_o the_o man_n in_o the_o term_n of_o his_o own_o address_n to_o sect._n 13_o the_o apologist_n in_o the_o same_o place_n if_o he_o say_v that_o by_o a_o magistrate_n true_o christian_n he_o understand_v a_o orthodox_n magistrate_n what_o if_o he_o have_v one_o or_o two_o error_n will_v he_o yet_o permit_v he_o to_o be_v orthodox_n and_o true_o christian_a or_o not_o till_o a._n s._n here_o specify_v sermon_n generales_fw-la non_fw-la movent_fw-la his_fw-la own_o rule_n for_o myself_o until_o i_o shall_v be_v otherwise_o inform_v by_o himself_o i_o shall_v make_v use_n of_o my_o reason_n to_o believe_v that_o by_o a_o magistrate_n true_o christian_n a._n s._n only_a mean●_n a_o magistrate_n who_o in_o his_o judgement_n be_v presbyterial_a and_o that_o this_o qualification_n of_o presbyterialisme_n and_o truth_n of_o christianity_n in_o a_o magistrate_n be_v against_o all_o contradiction_n and_o counter-poysings_a whatsoever_o termini_fw-la aequipollentes_fw-la in_o his_o logic_n and_o if_o this_o be_v his_o meaning_n the_o king_n to_o be_v sure_a have_v none_o of_o his_o power_n as_o yet_o in_o actu_fw-la exercito_fw-la and_o jure_v in_o re_fw-la nor_o have_v the_o parliament_n at_o least_o for_o aught_o a._n s._n or_o the_o kingdom_n know_v any_o whit_n more_o of_o it_o then_o the_o king_n and_o whatsoever_o it_o have_v do_v hitherto_o by_o any_o executive_a coercive_a external_a power_n about_o the_o church_n or_o church-affair_n in_o which_o kind_n it_o have_v do_v very_o much_o depend_v as_o touch_v the_o validity_n and_o justifiableness_n of_o it_o upon_o this_o supposition_n that_o it_o presbyterialize_v whence_o it_o follow_v that_o he_o that_o can_v or_o do_v not_o believe_v that_o the_o parliament_n be_v of_o a_o classic_a inclination_n can_v with_o the_o leave_n of_o a._n s._n his_o distinction_n judge_v they_o to_o have_v do_v lawful_o or_o warrantable_o any_o thing_n that_o they_o have_v do_v hitherto_o about_o or_o for_o the_o church_n the_o truth_n be_v that_o till_o a._n s._n will_v please_v to_o define_v what_o manner_n of_o magistrate_n he_o must_v be_v that_o shall_v pass_v the_o 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