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A26914 The difference between the power of magistrates and church-pastors and the Roman kingdom & magistracy under the name of a church & church-government usurped by the Pope, or liberally given him by popish princes opened by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1671 (1671) Wing B1241; ESTC R3264 44,016 63

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Renowned applauded Doctors teach that the Pope may excommunicate Kings and that an excommunicated King is no King and he that killeth him killeth not a King When the Roman Council under Greg. 7. decreeth that the Pope may depose Emperours And the same Greg. 7. li. 4. Ep. 7. conspireth in the like Doctrine The Oration of Card. Peron is well known If so great a Kingdom as France that glorieth of its Church-liberties can bear so much what will not those bear that are less able to deliver themselves The words of this Great and pretendedly Moderate Cardinal in a Moderate Kingdom in a publick Writing against a Protestant Learned King King James pag. 453. as cited by A. Bishop Usher of Babylon pag. 163. is fit to be written on the Doors of all Princes and of the Pope himself in Capital Letters viz. By this Article that Kings may not be deposed by the Pope We are cast headlong into a manifest Heresie as binding us to confess that for many Ages past the Catholick Church hath been banished out of the whole world For if the Champions of the Doctrine contrary to this Article do hold an impious and detestable opinion contrary to Gods Word then doubtless the Pope for so many hundred years expired hath not been the Head of the Church but a HERETICK and the ANTICHRIST What would you have more to satisfie Kings than their own profession that Either the Pope may depose Kings or 〈◊〉 he is not the Head of the Church but an Heretick and Antich●i●t and hath been so for many hundred years Can you sh●w their Interest plainlier than all this And lest any say that this is but the Doctrine of the Jesuits remember that Perron was another kind of man and the famous Perverter of King Henry the fourth And I will cite here the words of one more of a multitude even one that wrote so long ago as to be numbred with the Fathers in Biblioth Patr. To. 4 p. 913. and a Roman Cardinal Bertrard Card. Epis. Eduens de Orig. usu Jurisd Qu. 4. Respondeo dico quod Potestas Spiritualis debet dominari omni humanae Creaturae per rationes Hostiensis Item quia Jesus Christus silius Dei dum fuit in hoc mundo etiam ab aetern● naturalis dominus fuit de jure naturali in Imperatores quoseunque alios depositionis sententias ferre potuisset damnationis quaseunque alias Utpote in personas quas creaverat donis naturalibus gratuito donaverat etiam conservabat Et eadem ratione etiam ejus Vicarius potest Nam non videtur discretus Dominus fuisse ut cum reverentia ejus loquar nisi unicum post se talem Vicarium reliquisset qui haec omnia posset Fuit autem iste Vicarius ejus Petrus apud Mattheum Et idem dicendum est de successoribus Petri cum eadem absurditas sequeretur si post mortem Petri humanam naturam a se creatam sine regimine unius personae reliquisset I will English it lest the unlearned believe not what Fathers what a Biblioth Patrum what Cardinals and what Doctrines the Roman Clergy obtrude upon the Christian world I answer and say that the spiritual Power ought to have domination over every humane creature by Hostiensis reasons Also because Jesus Christ the Son of God while he was in this world and also from Eternity was the Natural Lord and by Natural Right could pass the sentence of Deposition and of Damnation and any other upon Emperours and upon any others as being persons that he had created and endowed with Natural Gifts and freely and also preserved And by the same reason his Vicar can do it For the Lord seemeth not to have been discreet that I may speak with reverence to him unless he had left behind him one such Vicar who could do all these things And in Matthew this his Vicar was Peter And the same must be said of the successors of Peter seeing the same absurdity would follow if after the death of Peter he had left humane nature created by himself without the Regiment of One person Do you think this is not plain dealing enough if men are willing to understand I know that there were Emperours and Princes that strugled hard before they suffered themselves to be thus subjected And these Emperours had Lawyers Statesmen and Divines that took their parts as all the Treatises in Goldastus his three Volumes de Monarch and his Imp. Constit. shew But still those that sided with the Pope spake contrary as the argumentations of those Books besides the Authors whom they oppose do shew And alas Occham and Marsilius Patavinus and Widdrington and Barclay came all too late For all that Secular Power which was cloaked with the name of Ecclesiastical and Spiritual was before so deeply rooted in the Papacy that they durst plead for no more than that Princes are not subject to the Pope in Temporals But as you truly note abundance of Temporals and of the Magistrates proper work about things Ecclesiastical was still vailed under the name of Spiritual And at last even the Temporal Power again claimed more subtilly and indirectly as in ordine ad spiritualia But you 'l say that All men are naturally so regardful of their own Interest and especially Princes that it is not possible they should be so servile tame and self-abasing as to give away so great a part of their Kingdoms to a Forreigner yea to one that claimeth all by himself or by his most famous Writers and by his Councils claimeth a power to depose them They that with their own Nobles and other Subjects are so jealous of their Prerogatives would never so far depose themselves if they did but know what they do And therefore when Popish Princes understand the matter they will shake off the yoke and re●ssume their right Answ. It 's true that Protestant Princes and States have done so And the true meaning of our Oath of Supremacy is the same with your main design And though some have stumbled at those words that the King is Supream Governour in all Causes Ecclesiastical the meaning is only as hath been oft publickly declared that he is the Supream Civil or Coactive Governour by the Sword in all Causes Ecclesiastical so far as they fall under that Coactive or Coercive Government And hereby the King doth but reassume the Royal Power over the Clergy and the affairs of Religion which the Pope had usurped under the name of Ecclesiastical For it s well known what was called Ecclesiastical Power in England in the times of Popery so that this much of the Vail is removed long ago among all Protestants And if you peruse but Bishop Bilsons excellent Tract of Christian Subjection and Bishop Andrews his Tortura Torti to pass by all others you will see that this Case is better opened than I for my part am able to open
and Religion Now I call not all this an Usurpation of Magistracy so far as he useth no Corporal force and threatneth no penalty but excommunication and damnation For every true Pastor with his own flock hath the Power of Guiding them by delivering Christs Doctrine and Precepts and commanding obedience as his Servant or Embassadour in his Name and of denouncing his judgements and of judging obligingly who are fit to be taken in to the Church by Baptism and who to be cast out as Impenitent by excommunication in his own particular Charge or Society And if the Pope usurp a power of doing all this and more as an Universal Pastor only this is an Usurpation of a Church Power and not of a Magistracy And indeed if you will acquit him from the guilt of the Mysterie of Iniquity any further than he invadeth Magistracy it self you will do him a great deal of wrong For he is the Vicarius Christi and the Vice-Christ more notably by his Spiritual Usurpation of a power proper to Christ himself or at least of a power that Christ never gave him II. His setting up a KINGDOM and invading the MAGISTRACY is done I. Directly II. Indirectly and Consequentially I. Directly 1. By holding a Secular Jurisdiction as the King of Rome where he exerciseth the Supream Civil Power acknowledging no Superiour Civil Governour either as to the Legislation or Execution in all the parts of his own Dominions 2. By his laying claim to many Kingdoms as his own among which England is one as pretended to be delivered to him by King John and supposing that the Kings do hold them as under him and by his Grant 3. By laying claim to the Temporal or Corporal Government of all the world say some or of all the Christian world say others Of which you may see a multitude of Volumes written in the defence of his pretensions In particular all those aforesaid were of this subject which all Goldastus his Collected Treatises for the Right of Princes do confute I gave you Cardinal Bertrands words before And though some of their Clergy who live under Princes that are not willing to resign their Crowns do disclaim the Popes direct Title to the Universal Civil Soveraignty yet he himself disclaimeth it not nor condemneth the Books as such that have been written to defend it In the Jesuits Morals the last Chapter hath this Title That the Jesuits teach that the Church cannot command spiritual and internal actions That its Laws and guidance are humane and that it is it self only a Political Body Where the Jansenist chargeth them with destroying the Church from its foundation and making it altogether external humane and Politick and that which needeth only Politick Vertues for its Government and the exercise of its principal offices and that they make its Laws but humane and politick which oblige only to things external and chargeth them as Cyprian did the Novatians Quod Ecclesiam humanam faciunt So that if he accuse them justly here is no room for any subterfuge It is not the Spiritual and Temporal power that he makes them claim but the Temporal or External only But what doth the Jansenist himself therefore disclaim all Temporal Power in the Church or is he just to Kings Judge but by pag. 388. where he boasteth of Laymans Confession of the Truth that Ecclesiastick power is instituted immediately from God and the Civil power comes immediately from men And that Civil power regards properly and directly wealth and peace temporal only And he adds For the Civil power regards the outward order and Civil tranquility alone and prescribes none but outward and humane means to attain this end Which is all false and most injurious to Kings whom this moderate Jansenist would hereby set as far below every Priest in real dignity and amiableness to the Subjects as a Humane Creature is below a Divine and the interest of the body is below that of the soul. Whereas indeed God is the immediate Original of Civil and Church power though in both the Persons are designed by the means of men And both have God himself for their ultimate end and the Common Good of the Society for their Common End which ever consisteth most in spiritual felicity referring to Eternal Though the Magistrates weapon be the Sword and the Pastors only the Word by which all this is brought to pass Indeed it is not possible that the Papacy in its present State can be defended by any man how moderate soever without Injury to Princes and States whose Power the Pope hath so notoriously invaded and usurped For how can they defend him that usurpeth the Power of Kings or usurpeth a false Power over Kings and not be injurious to them that the Usurper injureth But it is most wonderful to me that when W. Barclay defendeth the right of Monarchs in such a Kingdom as France that hath power and will to hold fast its own he should complain as if he undertook a Cause which most were against him in and in which he expected to be wondered at for his singularity 4. By their Inquisition and by their Decreeing Corporal Penalties in their Councils and Decreeing the deposition of Princes and the giving away their Dominions to others as in the two fore-cited Councils Roman su● Greg. 7. Lateran sub Innoc. 3. In a word by all that they do in their Usurped Legislation Judgement and Execution by the Sword or a forcing Power as in themselves II. But the more successful Usurpation of the Power and Rights of Princes is Indirectly and as Bellarmin defendeth it in ordine ad spiritualia By using their Ecclesiastical Usurped power upon mens Consciences in such a way as shall overtop the Magistrates power of the Sword when they decree that all are Hereticks that believe their senses and deny Transubstantiation and that all such Hereticks shall be banished or burnt the Clergy is not to do this themselves but to deliver them over to the Secular Power The Pope and Clergy do but charge it on their Consciences in the name of Christ. And if Princes obey them not or Temporal Lords will not burn or banish all such Hereticks for believing sense the Pope is not to touch their bodies but to excommunicate them And if they will not yet obey the Pope when they are excommunicate the Pope Good man will not draw a Sword against them but only use the Spiritual Sword by giving their Dominions to others which is but by word of mouth he doth but declare such a Temporal Lord to be dispossest of his Title and require another to take his Lands and let his great Divines publish that an Excommunicate King is no King and that to kill him is not to kill a King And if Princes will defend themselves by Arms the Pope will not send his Clergy in Arms against them but only by the Spiritual Sword or Word command other Princes States and people to arm themselves against their
THE DIFFERENCE Between the POWER OF MAGISTRATES AND CHURCH-PASTORS AND THE ROMAN KINGDOM MAGISTRACY Under the Name of a CHURCH CHURCH-GOVERNMENT Usurped by the Pope or liberally given him by Popish Princes Opened by Richard Baxter To the Learned and Sincere Ludovicus Molinaeus Dr of Physick and Author of Jugulum Causae Papa Ultrajectinus and other Books on this subject For the Vindication of the true Pastoral Discipline exercised by the Ancient Churches and claimed but alas too little exercised by the Churches called Protestant and Reformed And to acquaint Posterity what we hold in this that false accusations misinform them not LONDON Printed for Nevil Simmons at the Sign of the three Crowns near Holborn Conduit 1671. READER THE first Epistle is now written upon the sight of Jugulum Causae The other with the Propositions was written about a year and half ago upon the sight of Papa ultrajectinus c. and the Paraenesis contra Aedificatores Imperii in Imperio And the design of all is to shew how little or nothing at all the sober moderate Protestants called Episcopal Presbyterian Independent and Political or Erastian are disagreed in all this business whilst I name you near a hundred Propositions in which they commonly consent That Princes and all Magistrates may see that they have no cause to be offended at the Christian and Protestant Doctrine or to judge the true Religion of any of these parties as such to be contrary to their interest when in very truth they are in that all one But that among all Sects and Parties there will be still some injudicious intemperate and unpeaceable men especially those whose Interest in the world is Great and cannot be upheld without encroaching on the rights of others As Great Trees must have much room and suffer nothing to prosper under them but Weeds and Bryars And it is to tell Politicians that the true Pastoral Power being a Power to labour and suffer in patient self-denyal for the Church of Christ and the souls of men is past all doubt of Christs appointment And to diminish that Power is but to diminish our obligation to labour and suffer and to gratifie our sloth and fleshly interest But to diminish that Secular Church-power which Clergie men claim as of Divine Right is but for Princes to be Princes whether the Clergie will or no. And as to the Learned Author Dr. Lud. Molinaeus my meaning is to second him in awakening Magistrates to reassume their proper power and to leave it in no Clergie mens hands of what party soever But as to his reflections on the Protestants Discipline lovingly to chide him for making the difference seem wider than it is and to RECONCILE the four Parties while I distinctly open the common Doctrine of them all excepting the rigid Opinions of some interessed or intemperate individuals My Learned Sincere and Worthy Friend WHEN I had hastily set down my judgement of the Cause which I found handled in your Papa Ultrajectinus and other Writings which you sent me I cast by that Script which I intended at the writing of it for your view that I might surely keep it from the notice of others in this Age wherein the prevalency of Interest Faction Passion and Injudiciousness doth make it so great a difficulty to say any thing for the cure of any mens errors enormities or impieties which shall not be charged with the same crime or greater which it would cure and be taken for a disturber of the Church and Peace which it would save or heal But now seeing that you renew your endeavours in the same Cause and finding your Jugulum Causae directed to so many hands by seventy particular Epistles and that you have honoured me with a place among those great and worthy persons I take my self obliged to render you some account of my judgement of your Writings and especially of the whole Cause by bringing into the open light those hundred Propositions which I had purposed to conceal And withal to tell you 1. That though you have much overvalued me in your recitation of their report who would have joyned me with so Great so Wise and Good a man as A Bishop Usher and that in so great a work and experience may tell you that other men have other thoughts of me as one unmeet to preach the Gospel in the Land of my Nativity much more unmeet to be a decider of the Churches Controversies yet you have truly described my judgement of your self and your undertaking I confess I hope not that ever you should make the Roman Usurpation more palpable than the falshood of their Doctrine of Transubstantiation where they maintain not only the Corporal Presence which is not it that I now mean but that Bread is not Bread and Wine is not Wine when all men see taste smell and feel them And if the Princes Doctors and great men of the world can thus obstinately deny or take on them to deny the judgement which is made of sensible objects by all mens senses you may gather what fruit you may expect of your labours or of any Cause how plain soever where prejudice and seeming interest are against you Can all the Writings or Reasonings in the world bring any thing to a more clear and sure decision than that of all the senses of all men in the world about the proper objects of sense If flesh so far conquer flesh it self and the interest of sensuality can cause such men and such multitudes to renounce the apprehension of all their senses what have we to do more for the cure of mankind You have made it plain enough that it is really a part of the Secular Government of Kings and States which is now commonly called Ecclesiastical among the Papists and as such is challenged and usurped by the Pope and that Princes that subject their Kingdoms to his Usurpation do take in a joint Ruler with them and divide their Kingdoms or Power between themselves and him But so they have done and so they will do till the Time of the Churches fuller Reformation and of the Coalition of the Christian world is come I know you may think that as Interest blindeth them so this great detection of the Invasion of their Interest is the way to bring them to the truth For who will have a Co-partner with him in his Kingdom that may choose Who had not rather Rule alone than divide his Kingdom with the Pope Undoubtedly they give away more of their own Interest hereby than you have opened When they deliver part of their power to one who by an approved General Council of their own which is the Religion of their Party Later sub Innoc. 3. Can. 2. 3. may depose Temporal Lords though no Protestants themselves that will not exterminate those that deny Transubstantiation out of their Dominions and may absolve their subjects from their fidelity and may give their Countryes unto others When their most Learned
with them and to overtop them of which more anon 3. I grant you also that in all such Countreys as aforesaid where Popery and Church-tyranny prevaileth the name of Ecclesiastical Courts and Discipline is applyed to that mungrel power which is neither Fish nor Flesh and that the true Spiritual Power set up by Christ is corrupted and turned into a secular thing or by confusion a third sort arisen out of both And that Popish Princes are wofully abused by this deceit while that the reverence of the name of the Church and Church-Government doth perswade them to ruine the Church indeed and to set up their Subjects to be the Governours of themselves and to give away their own power to their servants and then to stoop to the power which they have given 4. And I grant you that all this mischief would much be cured if Magistrates would keep the Sword to themselves and use it only according to the judgement of their proper Courts and would leave the Power of the Church Keyes to the Pastors valeant quantum valere possunt and let it be thought penalty enough for an excommunicate person qua talis to be excommunicate And not to take him to be a penitent or worthy of the Communion of the Church that had rather be there than in a Gaol There be wiser wayes of bringing men to Repentance and to the Communion of the Church than by saying Choose this or the Goal You are worthy to be in the Church if you had but rather be in it than in a Prison Christ said Forsake all or ye cannot be my Disciples And some say Be Christs Disciples or forsake all The Church will receive you if you will but accept her communion rather than imprisonment or beggary A kind Church indeed of which more anon 5. But notwithstanding all these concessions I must further tell you that it is the Pastors of the Churches that must keep up the interest of Christianity in the world and that as the bad ones are the greatest plagues so the good ones are the greatest blessings of the earth even the salt and lights of the world And none but the enemies of Christ are their enemies as such And as the Ministry hath grown better or worse so hath Christianity either risen or fallen in all times and places of the Church on earth Of which see Two Sheets which I have written for the Ministery against the Seekers and Malignants long ago 6. And though the Carnal Clergy afore described deserve all the invectives in your Books and their Usurpations and turning Church Discipline into a secular thing do call aloud for a just detection and rebuke and it would be the happiness of the world if the eyes of all Christian Princes and Rulers were opened in this point yet I must tell you that I believe most sober pious Protestant Divines are really agreed in the main things that you desire and intend And that both you and some of your adversaries both do amiss to make the difference seem wider than indeed it is And that making Verbal differences seem real and small ones seem great is an ill employment when a few distinctions and clearer explications would make both sides see that they are almost of one mind Therefore all that I shall do in this business is to lay down my own judgement and I think the judgement of all the pious and sober part of the Episcopal Presbyterian Independents and Erastians or Politicians in certain brief Propositions which shall carry their own evidence past all contradiction of Learned and Considerate Christians Prop. 1. THe work of the Gospel-Ministry is not a work of meer Charity and Liberty but an Office-work Authority Reason and Love are its principles Matth. 28. 19 20. Titus 1. 5. Acts 14. 23. 2. This Office is instituted by Christ himself and by the Holy Ghost Ibid. Acts 20. 28 c. 3 It was instituted for great and necessary ends that the Ministry might be Christs Agents Messengers S●eward● c. for the furthering the affairs of his Spiritu●l Kingdom and mens salvation in the world 1 Cor. 4. 1 2. 1 Tim. 3. 1 2 3 c. Acts 20. 28. 1 Thess. 5. 12 13. ●●b 13. 17. 4. It was first put into the hands of Apostles ch●s●n by Christ himself who were to be the Gatherers Edifiers ●nd Guides of his Church and to be its foundation built on Christ and the transmitters of the Gospel and a stated Ministry to the following Ages 5. Though the extraordinary part of their work ceased with them the ordinary part continueth after them with a Ministry which is to continue to the end of the world Eph. 4. 11 c. 6. This Office was in time before a Christian Magistrate and must be the same where there is any such and where there is none Matth. 28. 20. Eph. 4. 12 14 16 c. 7. It consisteth in an Authority conjunct with an Obligation to do their proper work 8. This Ministerial Office is subordinate to Christ in the three parts of his Office Prophetical Priestly Kingly as they are commonly distinguished or in Teaching Worshipping God and Governing his flocks John 20. 21. Matth. 28. 19 20. 1 Cor. 4. 1 2. 1 Tim. 3. 2 3 c. 5. 17. Acts 6. 4. 9. It is essential to the Office to have all these in Divine Authority but not in Exercise nor in the Civil Liberty of exercising them which may be hindered Acts 5. 18 c. 10. The Office is to be judged of by Gods Institution and not by the Ordainers wills intention or contrary expressions if the essence of the Office be delivered in general words 11. Christ made these Officers the Key-bearers of his Churches that is the Rulers or Guides who have authority under him over Church communion to judge what members shall be taken in and who shall be put out Mat. 16. 19. Heb. 13. 17 24. 1 Thess. 5. 12 13. 12. The first and great act of this Key-bearing power never denyed them from Christs time to this day is the power of Baptizing and of judging who shall be admitted by Baptism into the Church or number of visible Christians Mat. 28. 19 20. Acts 2. 41. 8. 12 13 38. 13. This power is not arbitrary but Ministerial regulated by Christs universal Laws which describeth every mans Title to admittance which is his own or Parents if an Infants understanding voluntary serious Profession of Consent to the Baptismal Covenant Acts 2. 38. 8. 12. 10. 47 48. M●r. 16. 16. Matth. 28. 20. 14. If one Minister refuse such Consenters others must admit him And if many should agree utterly to tyrannize both Magistrates by just Laws may correct them and the people desert them for better Guides 1 Kings 2. 27. 2 John 10 11. Mat. 7. 15. 16. 6. 15. The Churches Communion and Sacraments are not to be common to all the world Otherwise the Church were no Church as consisting of
whether they be Church-members or not And he may as a Keeper of the Churches Priviledges and Peace till forfeited restrain all excommunicate persons from forcing themselves into the Communion of the Church which did excommunicate them 90. So contentious are Pastors oft times and so necessary is the Magistrates Office to the publick peace that every Church should be under the eye of some Justices of the Peace or Censors appointed by force to silence intruding Bawlers and Railers and to restrain Ministers from making it their publick work unpeaceably to traduce and revile their Brethren and represent dissenters as odious to the flock And if such Magistrates had kept the Churches Order and Peace according to their Office it had prevented abundance of the Papal Usurpations which were the fruit of Magistrates neglects 91. Lay Chancellors exercising the Spiritual Power of the Keyes though they should pro forma use the stale of an Ordinaries pronunciation is such a sort of Church Government as I will never swear that in my place and Calling I will not at any time endeavour to alter by lawful means 92. The Parents are put in the fourth Commandment rather than the Magistrate or Pastor because their authority is the most plenary Image of the Divine Authority in these respects 1. Their Authority is not by Contract but by Nature 2. It is the primary radical power 3. It is most universally necessary to mankind 4. And it representeth Gods Government 1. In that it is founded in Generation as Gods in Creation 2. Because thence ariseth 1. The fullest Image of his Dominion in the Parents fullest Propriety in his Child 2. Of his sapiential Rule in the Parents Government as in presence 3. Of his Love which Parents are allowed to exceed all other Rulers in Therefore God calls himself Our Father 93. Q. What if the Magistrate Minister and Parents have opposite Commands Which of them is to be obeyed e. g. The Magistrate bids you meet in one place for publick Worship the Bishop in another and the Parent in a third The Magistrate bids you Learn one Catechism and no other the Bishop another and not that and the Parents a third The Magistrate bids you stand the Pastor bids you kneel the Parents bid you sit The Magistrate bids you pray by one form the Bishop by another and the Parents by a third or none The Magistrate commandeth one translation of the Scripture and the Bishop another The Bishop commandeth you to use a Ceremony or to keep a holy day and your Parents forbid it you In such cases which must you conform to and obey Answ. When I am desired and promised by those concerned in it that it will be well taken I will answer such kind of questions as these But till then I will hold my tongue that I may hold my peace 94. No contrary commands of Church-men as they are called nor any of our own Vows or Covenants can excuse us from obedience to the Higher Powers in lawful things which God hath authorized them to command that is which are belonging to their place of Government to regulate Though if the question be but e. g. What Medicine and Dose shall be given to a Patient or by what Medium a Philosopher shall demonstrate or what Subject and what Method and Words a Pastor shall use for the present edification of his flock or how a Surgeon shall open a Vein or a Pilot guide his Ship c. the Artist may be obeyed before an Emperour by him that careth for his life or his understanding But yet as all these are under the Government of the King so he may give them general Laws especially to restrain them from notorious hurtfulness Sir If all these Propositions be enow for the Concord of sober Christians in these matters I hope neither you nor I nor any lover of the Church and Peace shall need to use much sharpness against the Opinions of such dissenters But if they be not I know not when we shall have concord And yet that you may see that I am not over sollicitous of my Peace I will make up the number with these less pleasing Propositions 95. Because Corruptio optimi est pessima Magistrates and Ministers are of all men usually either the greatest Blessings or the greatest Burdens of mankind on earth Saith Campanella Metaph. Potentiae Corruptio est Tyrannis maxima mundi mala Sapientiae Corruptio est Haeresis maxima mundi mala Amoris Corruptio est Hypocrisis maxima mundi mala though indeed he might as well have named more As Tyranny is in the greatest part of the whole world which is Heathen Infidel and Popish the principal sin which hindereth the Gospel and Kingdom of Christ forbiddeth the preaching of the Word of life for mens salvation And therefore a sin which no Christian Magistrate or Preacher should think of but with great abhorrence and none by any palliation should befriend it so Prudent and Good Princes are under God the Pillars of the world For they are the Chief Officers of God to shew forth his Power Wisdom and Goodness Truth and Holiness Justice and Mercy in their Government And by their Laws to promote the obedience of his Laws And to encourage the Preachers and Practicers of Godliness Sobriety and Righteousness And to defend them against the Malignity of those that would silence oppress and persecute them on earth And by their examples and punishments to bring all ungodliness intemperance and injustice unto shame None therefore that possess so great a mercy should undervalue it or be unthankful 96. Wise Rulers will watch the Plots of such enemies as would use them as the Devil would have used Christ who carried him to the Pinnacle of the Temple in hope to have seen his fall the greater who would have them with Herod arrogate the praise of God unto themselves or with Pharaoh or Nebuchadnezzar to disdain to be under the Soveraignty of their Maker and ascribe to them the Divine Prerogatives And would make it seem their honour to have Power to do the greatest mischief that the pretence and claim may make them odious and so may debilitate and undermine them That like a draught of cold water to one in a Pleurisie they may kill them by pleasing them 97. It is an unchristian carnal craft for the Protestant Clergy of several Opinions to lay false charges on one another as being enemies to the Civil Government when really their principles therein are all the same Or to make the differences of Statesmen and Lawyers to be taken for differences in Religion purposely to make one another and their Religion odious and to strengthen themselves by the errors and passions of Princes till at last they have tempted the world to think as bad of all and of Religion it self as they have said of one another and by undermining others fall themselves 98. But yet that Party who really make a Religion of the Doctrine of
him The alms of the people is enough for the poor Let them never procure us envy for our Lands let them take them if they please I do not give them to the Emperour but I do not deny them So far Bilson All this we allow And if all this be the concurrent judgement of all sorts of sober Protestants called Episcopal or Presbyterians what reason hath any Erastian upon the account of the Magistrates interest to quarrel with them If any practise not according to these principles let them hear of it Indeed in point of convenience we greatly differ from some men That is 1. Whether it be convenient for the King to make Church-men Magistrates or not 2. And whether it be convenient immediately to back their Excommunications with the Sword And for the Magistrate to be the Clergies Executioner or to imprison men eo nomine because excommunicate and not repenting 3. And whether it be convenient to make the same Court called Ecclesiastical so mixt of Pastoral and Secular Power united in one Chancellor who is no Pastor but a Lay man or in a Bishop as that in and by it the Magistrates and the Spiritual Government shall be either confounded or so twisted as to be undiscernable or become one tertium But for this as we love not to be too forward in teaching Magistrates what is convenient though many of the ancient Fathers have done it plainly and spoken against the Magistracy of Priests and Cy●il of Alexandria is branded by Socrates and others with some infamy as the first Bishop that used Coercive power so you have more cause to say what you have to say in this to the Magistrate himself than to the Bishops or Presbyteries For if the Magistrate will needs-make Priests his Officers and put his Sword into such hands as have enough to do in their proper work Or if he will punish men with the Sword because they are punished already by excommunication or because they repent not lest excommunication alone should prove uneffectual quarrel not for his actions with other men It is his own doing and it is himself that you blame when you blame these things Say not that Prelates or Presbyteries take the Magistrates power from him but say the truth that the Magistrate giveth it them and will have it so to be Though I excuse none that urge him to it or voluntarily assume his Power Bishop Andrews also saith Tortur Torti p. 383. Cohibeat Regem Diaconus si cum indignus sit idque palam constet accedat tamen ad Sacramentum Cohibeat medicus si ad noxium quid vel insalubre manum admoveat Cohibeat Equiso si inter equitandum adigat Equum per l●cum praeruptum vel salebrosum cui subsit periculum Etiamre medico Etiamne Equisoni suo subjectus Rex Sed de Majori potestate loquitur sed ea ad rem noxiam procul arcendam qua in re Charitatis semper Potestas est maxima Here you see what Church Government is in Bishop Andrews sense and how far the Bishops hold the King himself to be restrainable even by a Deacon And yet but I think according to your own sense I pray you judge then whether the Bishops and you differ as far as you imagine and whether the Courts and Church power which offendeth you be not set up by Kings themselves who make the Bishops their Officers therein To which add what Bilson proveth that Patriarchs Metropolitans and Archbishops Dignities are the gift of Princes and not the institution of Christ and then you will see more that it is the Princes own doing I add to the like purpose more out of Bilson pag. 313. We grant they must rather hazard their lives than baptize Princes which believe not or distribute the Lords mysteries to them that repent not but give wilful and open signification of iniquity c. This is Church Government which none can contradict This is it that Chrysostom so often professeth also as that he would rather let his own blood be shed than give the blood of Christ to the unworthy And Beda Hist. Eccles. l. 2. cap. 5. telleth us that Melitus Bishop of London with Justus was banished by the heirs of King Sabareth because he would not give them the Sacrament of the Lords Supper which they would needs have before they were baptized And by the way if Bishops say that Kings must be used thus the Non-conformists are not such intolerable Schismaticks as some now represent them for desiring that every Presbyter may not be compelled against his Conscience to give the Sacrament to the basest of the people that are ignorant what Christ or Christianity is and to them that are not willing to receive it but are forced to take it against their wills for fear of a Prison nor to baptize the Children of such Parents as know not what baptism is or as are professed Infidels having not so much as Christian Adopters but only Ceremonious persons called God-fathers and God-mothers Papirius Massonus in vita Leonis 1. reciteth his words of the Magistrates banishing the Manichees and addeth Ex hac rei gestae narratione perspicuum est Romanos Episcopas relegare tunc non potuisse nec in exilium reos mittere utì hodie faciunt sed eos tantum censura coercere poen● ecclesiastica mulctar● I add no more supposing that almost all sober Episcopal Presbyterians Independents and Erastians are agreed in all the first ninety four Propositions if not all that are here asserted and that all those may suffice to signifie their Concord and promote their Reconciliation if Interest mistaken and Passion mis-guided did not much more than difference of judgement in these matters to cause their alienation And as I have written this to vindicate both the Power of Kings and the Office of Pastors from any mens unjust suspicions or accusations who look only on one side and to shew that these Offices are no more contrary than Head and Heart than Light and Heat so I do require the Reader to put no sense upon any thing here written which is injurious to the Government of Magistrates or Pastors or contrary to the Laws For all such senses I do hereby disclaim FINIS Read the Declaration against the Oath of Allegiance by H. I. for the Popes deposing Kings pa. 16 17 27 43. Read Hottomans Franco-Gal cap. 7. and his Brutum ●●lmen pag. 87 97 98. Read Withriagton and Barclay against Bellarmia in Goldastus Tom. 3. de Mon. And Bellarmia against Barclay c. 9. Vid. Sua ez ● advers sect A●glic li 6. cap. 4. sect 14. cap. 6. sect 22. 24. Azor. ●rs Mor. par 1. l. 8 c. 13. Dom. Bannes in Thom. 22. q. 12. art 2. August Triump de potest Eccl. q 46. art 2. There is no doubt saith he but the Pope may depose all Kings when there is reasonable cause for it See the Jesui●s Morals and Mystery of Jesuitism and Myster Patrum Jesuitarum ☜ ☜ ☜ ☞ ☞ ☞ ☜ ☜ ☜ See Bellarm. de Pontif. Ro. li. 5. c. 1. 6. 7. 8. he saith It is the common judgement of all Catholick Divines that the Pope ratione spiritualis hath at least indirectly a certain Power and that the highest in Temporals Which c. 6. he saith is just such over Princes as the soul hath over the body or sensitive appetite and that thus he may change Kingdoms and take them from one and give to another as the chief Spiritual Prince if it be but necessary to the safety of souls Yea he saith that It is not lawful for Christians to tolerate an Infidel or Heretical King if he endeavour to draw his Subjects to his Heresie or unbelief But to judge whether a King do draw to Heresie or not belongeth to the Pope to whom the care of Religion is committed Therefore it belong●th to the Pope to judge a King to be deposed c. * You are mistaken when you twi●● call Maximus Imperator Ethnicus who but for his ●●●patio● ha● been a Christia● Saint