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A11788 A true souldiers councel; Experimentall discoverie of Spanish practises. Hexham, Henry, 1585?-1650?, attributed name.; Scott, Thomas, 1580?-1626, attributed name. 1624 (1624) STC 22078; ESTC S114763 30,552 55

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but think us all one people then how can we imagine that these people haue freely given themselues to the Spanish obedience and acknowledge him for their Lord and King when they never so much as heard that there was such a man or Nation Againe from Capi culli formia all the land that runneth and maketh the stange of Anian and the Netherlands therof whose bounds and limits are never discovered the Spanyard hath not so much as once seated himselfe to make himselfe known whereby there might bee any likelyhood that they had acknowledged him for their Soveraign And for us to beleeu that the Spanyard is Lord of such whom he hath never seen nor known nor they him were a manifest sign of a strong faith in us And there were no way for any man to make me beleeue Miracles sooner then by making me beleeue this for after the beliefe of this I should never doubt of any miracle though he should tell me a thousand in a day So that if this title come not by consent of all in generall he neither ought to write himselfe Lord of the whole Indies nor debar other Christians from conquering or trading in those parts where the Spanyard hath neither residence nor Seigniory nor command If he challenge right by conquest and consent then must he claim no more then he hath by conquest and consent obtained As for example all that part of the West Indies which at this day is scatteringly inhabited by the Spanyards and Portugals is almost contained in two Tropicks excepting the two small Villages of Saint Augustine and Helena in Florida the Province of new Biscay Northwards and fiue Villages or Townes neere the River of Plate called Sancto Sprinto Saint Anna the Citie of Ascension Saint Fee and Fuvirnan lyeth halfe way betwixt the mouth of the river of Plate and the Mine of Polossie and in the South Sea beyond the Tropick in the Kingdome of Chelix the Townes or Villages of Coquenbo Persco Saint Iago la impe villa del Lago And therfore if the Spanyards haue nothing to doe any further either to the Northward or to the Southward what reason hath he to forbid any Nation to conquer or dwell there But if hee should admit you I think it not convenient that your Majesty should be so satisfied for so should you doe your selfe and other Christian Princes great wrong for his Townes and Castles are so divided and such masses of land and Kingdome betwixt them which he hath no right nor dare to enter as being duely considered by your Majestie hee ought not to claime no more then he ought to claime the Kingdome of France because his Fort of Graueling is of one side and South Arabia on the other France being in the midst between them or to claime France because his Frontiers in Italy bound it on the one side and Spaine on the other or to claime the Iland of the Venetians and the Turks in Levant for that Cicilia and Sardinia and a few others belong to him that stands in that sea Or claime all the Ilands or Shoares in Barbarie for that he hath a Castle or two in the Straits and another in Libia These Countries they never lay claime to because they are in the eye of the Christian world which would make us rise up in Armes against them for their foolish arrogancy if they should pretend it But in the unknown parts which haue been familiar unto us whose light by the iniquity of the time and troublesome warres in these parts haue to us been hidden although to the Ancient well known where they began their foolerie Betwixt the Castle of Argiue in Libia and the Iland of Macoa in the river of Canton in the Kingdom of China the foolish Portugals say all is theirs when many a hundred Kings as absolute and powerfull in regard of people as any King in these parts dwelleth betwixt and admit the Portugals by way of petition or bribes to dwell in some place by the Sea side and trafique with them neither dare they lay claim to any Kingdome but onely to such Fortresses Factories and Villages on the Sea side as perforce and favour of the Iland they are permitted to dwell in as most excellently appeareth by answer of Charles the fifth made unto the Embassadours of Portugal anno 1522 when they came to require and beseech him that his subjects the Spanyards might not trade nor commerce as then they did in the conquest or navigation of the Portugals who after a most peremptory and noble answer of his part told them he knew no reason neither would he suffer them that his subjects should be prohibited freely to passe into any Country where the hope of gain offereth it selfe and that if the Portugals in the cause of their Trade should doe any violence to any of his people either in their persons or goods he would be revenged neerer home meaning upon the Kingdom of Portugal With which answer at that time the Lucitans were forced to depart Which answer if it should please your Majestie to returne upon the Castilians themselues at this time I know no reason how it can any way be bettered having so good a president as their own King against the Portugals upon the same subject But for the Portugals where all their strength is seated I mean upon the coast of Malubor where they haue more Fortes and Castles then in all India besides the Kings doe so pen and lock them up in their Garrisons and Fortes as they can haue nothing the Countrie yeeldeth but by their friendship procured by yearly bribes As for example to the King of Cathaie they pay an yearly tribute of 256000 Reis to the King of Pimenta .. Reis to the mother of the King of Pimenta yearly 36000 Reis to the King of Pargnan yearly 72000 to the King of Manfata yearly 72000 Reis To Carto Babua the proper name of a man of account upon that coast an yearely tribute of 42000 Reis to the Teratates which are brethren and Kings an yearly tribute of 72000 Reis All which summes or tribute are imposed upon the King and Custome of goods brought from these parts As for their credit and reputation amongst these Heathens it is so small either for feare they haue of them or loue they bear to them that when we and the Hollanders pay no custome for goods bought and sold there they make the Portugals pay 30 per hundred we going free before their faces and they paying before ours By this your Majestie may well perceiue what base account the Princes in those parts make of them there and yet these vain-glorious Woodcoks will be very angry with us if we will not beleeue when they say that all the East Indies is theirs and they haue conquered it In selfe manner most renowmed Soveraign stand the Kings of the West Indies with the Spanyards both in the South sea upon the Kingdom of Cheley Reta Peru and others as at
this time is apparant by the Kings of Cheley who hath within this few yeares beaten down the Spaniard and wonne from them the Town of Impetial wherin was wont to be placed and maintained one of the greatest Garrisons of the South Sea and not onely razed it to the ground but likewise kild and driven the Castilians quite from them Even so upon the East and North part of the Indies both upon the Coast of Brazil with all the firm land upon the Indies from Parabia to Cartagene the gulfe of Vraba the gulfe of Mexico and all alongst the Coast of Bahana even to their Forts in Florida they are in continuall warres with the Kings and peoples of those lands And surely under your Highness pardon I am confident of this opinion that it hath been a main policy of the Kings of Spain for these many yeares to keep us in continuall warres one with another in these parts or if not to encourage us himselfe whereby being forced to look to our home defences wee might not haue meanes to discover these his invasions abroad wherby he puts a mask before all the Princes eyes of Europe And therfore since he is now laid open and by no Nation so much as by your Majesties subjects of this land I hope for the prevention of future mischeife against this State as for other honourable respects and prevailent Reasons in challenging of that which is your own or at least as much yours as his you will no bee unmindfull which doubtlesse will not tend onely to the enlightning of many soules which to this day haue sate in the shadow of death but likewise lay a ground as before said for the safety and preservation of your States Glorie Person and Posterity in despite of the Spanish treacheries in the time to come which otherwise by no meanes by the wit of mortall man can be prevented as upon my life by circumstances I will make apparant But least this field of reasoning whereinto I haue walked be too tedious unto your Highnesse I will briefly end referring my selfe to Argument with any one against this mischievous and poysonous peace with Spain which I doe see cannot but proue very fatall to your Majestie and Common-wealth And though I bee not called yet considering I am your subject I cannot forbeare in respect of my great and loyall affection to your Majestie the Prince with the rest of the noble Issue and my natiue Country I cannot but presume to speake of such things which I think now fit to be considered especially at this time even as Merca●ie Gata●er Chancellour of Spain did against the peace that was concluded betwixt Francis the first and Charles the Emperour his Master for he seeing that the Emperour was disposed to make peace with the said King and to set him at liberty and that the Viceroy of Naples and all other the Lords of the Councell tended to the same and although he knew as I doe now that his counsell would not be accepted yet failed he not to speak what he thought but likewise refused being great Lord Chancellour of Spain to signe the Articles which he defended with most excellent reasons which reasons are well delivered and with much gravity of speech by Quiccardine in the oration of the said Gataner But this event made it known that the counsell of Gataner was most noble most just and grounded as well upon the high wisedome as great zeale to the loue and good of his Country For as soon as the King was at liberty all the Spaniards wonderfull hopes that they expected of this peace and all the French Kings great promises to them vanished into smoke according to the opinion of that worthy Gentleman And I know no reason most noble Soveraign that I being your subject as hee was the King of Spaines and loving you and my Country as much as ever he did his and hauing a subject of the same quality to fear as he did them although I may well say as much more danger to us by the Spanyards if our peace be not built upon a sure foundation then it could any way be unto them by the French But to speak my opinion make what Articles you will and let them bee guilded over with the fairest shew either they or those of their Faction if you haue any about you can devise unlesse these foure be granted on their part to you you can never make any sure peace with them or at least such a peace as if he haue the minde to breake he will haue the advantage of you And Phillip Comines saith That for the many conclusions that hee hath seen in his time in the affaires of State that it were inexcusable folly for a Prince if he were able for to prevent it to put himselfe under the power of another 1 That your subjects may haue free accesse to the Indies either to traffique or plant where the Spanyards haue neither conquest Seigniorie nor tribute 2 That he doe pull down all inquisition wheresoever your people shall resort in all his Dominions and that the Customes be reduced to an ancient order 3 That he shall never come with a main Army of Ships into these Seas under colour of chastising the Hollanders 4 That it shall be as lawfull for your subjects to serue the States in warres against them as it shall be to serue them against the States these things accorded your peace may be safe otherwise not A short view taken of Great Brittaine and Spaine HIs Majestie now is of more power then any his Predecessours First because our addition of dominion Ireland is reduced to a more absolute state of obedience and increase of revenue then heretofore The footing wee had in France was rather a greatnesse of trouble to us then of strength it was alwaies in division it held us alwaies in continuall fluxe of treasure and bloud we never attempted in the Front but that attempted us in the Rear which did both distract our Armies and aggravate our charge It is a Territory so separate from us by nature as we could not advantage upon it either for offence or reliefe without the accesse of difficulty and charge that a State must undergoe when it runnes the necessity of such an undertaking by sea where the warre was bent upon a great Continent a populous Nation a plentifull Countrey and intire in its selfe and that can be succoured without passing the Seas In these things we found such disadvantage as haue been the undoing of our Expeditions In stead of departure of this broken Dominion we had in France his Majestie hath brought another whole Kingdom to England undevided from us in seate from whence we haue these benefits The back dore that was open in the assistance of our enemies both to offend us and divert our attempts from them is now open to us and his Majestie hath the key of it it saveth us the mony and the men that we were forced to employ