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A11786 An Experimentall discoverie of Spanish practises, or, The Counsell of a well-wishing souldier, for the good of his prince and state wherein is manifested from known experience, both the cruelty, and policy of the Spaniard, to effect his own ends : chiefly swelling with multiplicity of glorious titles, as one of the greatest monarchs of the earth, that being admired of all, his greatnesse might amaze all, and so by degrees seeking covertly to tyrannize over all, when as indeed and truth, the greatest part of his pretended greatnesse is but a windy crack of an ambitious minde. Scott, Thomas, 1580?-1626.; Hexham, Henry, 1585?-1650? 1623 (1623) STC 22077; ESTC S1713 30,960 58

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you againe and therefore saith he if he had given all these Kingdomes to Christ the Kings of the earth to whom by right they did pertaine would never haue suffered him to haue injoyed them And so for that For the earth is the Lords and all that dwell therin he founded and prepared it as in the Psalmist and so consequently neither the Popes nor the diuils doe dispose to whom they please The copie of which foolish donation of the Popes truely translated out of the originall hath beene delivered to your Majestie long since and I hope perused before this time To proue that he hath no generall consent of all the people and Nations of the Indies appeareth most evidently by this reason for that no Spaniard farther inhabiteth northward then Florida where they haue but two little Forts or Villages the one called S. Austine the other S. Helena All the rest of that hugh tract whose infinitenesse is such as no mortall tongue can expresse nor eye hath seene doe not so much as think there is another world but that they themselues inhabite except some few of them which dwell vpon the edges of the shore that sometimes see both us the French the Dutch and the Spaniard when we come a fishing but are not able to distinguish of us but thinke us all one people then how can we imagine that these people haue freely given themselues to the Spanish obedience and acknowledge him for their Lord and King when they never so much as heard that there was such a man or Nation Againe from Capi culli formia all the land that tunneth-and maketh the strange of Anian and the Netherlands thereof whose bounds and limits are never discovered the Spanyard hath not so much as once seated himselfe to make himselfe knowne whereby there might bee any likelyhood that they had acknowledged him for their Soveraigne And for us to beleeue that the Spaniard is Lord of such whom he hath never seen nor knowen nor they him were a manifest signe of a strong faith in us And there were no way for any man to make me beleeue Miracles sooner then by making me beleeue this for after the beliefe of this I should never doubt of any miracle though he should tell me a thousand in a day So that if this title come not by consent of all in generall he neither ought to write himselfe Lord of the whole Indies nor debar other Christians from conquering or trading in those parts where the Spanyard hath neither residence nor Seigniory nor command If he challenge right by conquest and consent then must he claime no more then he hath by conquest and consent obtained As for example all that part of the West Indies which at this day is scatteringly inhabited by the Spanyards Portugals is almost contained in two Tropicks excepting the two small Villages of Saint Augustine and Helena in Florida the Prouince of new Biscay Northwards and fiue Villages or Townes neere the River of Plate called Sancto Sprinto Saint Anna the Citie of Ascension Saint Fee and Fuvirnan lyeth halfe way betwixt the mouth of the river of Plate and the Mine of Polossie and in the South Sea beyond the Tropick in the Kingdome of Chelix the Townes or Villages of Coquenbo Persco Saint Iago la impe villae del Lago And therefore if the Spaniards haue nothing to do any further either on the Northward or to the Southward what reason hath he to forbid any Nation to conquer or dwell there But if hee should admit you I thinke it not convenient that your Majestie should be so satisfied for so should you doe your selfe and other Christian Princes great wrong for his Townes and Castles are so divided and such masses of land and Kingdom betwixt them which he hath no right nor dare to enter as being duely considered by your Majestie hee ought not to claime no more then he ought to claime the Kingdome of France because his Fort of Graueling is of oneside and South Arabia on the other France being in the midst betweene them or to claime France because his Frontiers in Italy bound it on the one side and Spaine on the other or to claime the Iland of the Venetians and the Turks in Levant for that Cicilia and Sardinia and a few others belong to him that stands in that Sea Or claime all the Ilands or Shoares in Barbaric for that he hath a Castle or two in the Straits and another in Libia These Countries they never lay claime to because they are in the eye of the Christian world which would make us rise up in Armes against them for their foolish arrogancy if they should pretend it But in the unknowne parts which haue been familiar unto us whose light by the iniquity of the time and troublesome warres in these parts haue to us beene hidden although to the Ancient well knowne where they began their foolerie Betwixt the Castle of Argiue in Libia and the Iland of Macoa in the river of Canton in the Kingdome of China the foolish Portugals say all is theirs when many a hundred Kings as absolute and powerfull in regard of people as any King in these parts dwelleth betwixt and admit the Portugals by way of petition or bribes to dwell in some place by the Sea side and trafique with them neither dare they lay claime to any Kingdome but onely to such Fortresses Factories and Villages on the Sea side as perforce and favour of the Iland they are admitted to dwell in as most excellently appeareth by answere of Charles the fifth made unto the Embassadours of Portugal anno 1522 when they came to require and beseech him that his subjects the Spaniards might not trade nor commerce as thon they did in the conquest or navigation of the Portugals who after a most peremptory and noble answer of his part told them he knew no reason neither would he suffer them that his subjects should be prohibited freely to passe into any country where the hope of gain offereth it selfe and that if the Portugals in the cause of their Trade should doe any violence to any of his people either in their persons or goods he would be revenged neerer home meaning upon the Kingdome of Portugal With which answer at that time the Lucitans were forced to depart Which answer if it should please your Majestie to returne upon the Castilians themselues at this time I know no reason how it can any way be bettered having so good a president as their owne King against the Portugals upon the same subiect But for the Portugals where all their strength is seated I meane upon the coast of Malubor where they haue more Forts and Castles then in all India besides the Kings doe so pen and locke them vp in their Garrisons and Forts as they can haue nothing the Countrie yeeldeth but by their friendship procured by yearly bribe As for example to the King of Cathaie they pay an yearly tribute of
256000 Reis to the King of Pimenta Reis to the mother of the King of Pimenta yearly 36000 Reis to the King of Pargnan yearly 72000 to the King of Manfata yearly 72000 Reis to Carto Babua the proper name of a man of account upon the coast an yearely tribute of 42000 Reis to the Teratates which are brethren and Kings an yearly tribute of 72000 Reis All which summes or tribute are imposed upon the King and Custome of goods brought from these parts As for their credit and reputation amongst these Heathens it is so small either for feare they haue of them or loue they beare to them that when wee and the Hollanders pay no Custome for goods bought and solde there they make the Portugals pay 30 per hundred we going free before their faces and they paying before ours By this your Majestie may well perceiue what base account the Princes in those parts make of them there and yet these vainglorious woodcocks will be very angry with us if we will not beleeue when they say that all the East Indies is theirs and they haue conquered it In selfe manner most renowned Soveraigne stand the Kings of the West Indies with the Spaniards both in the South sea upon the Kingdome of Cheley Reta Peru and others as at this time is apparant by the Kings of Cheley who hath within this few yeares beaten down the Spaniard and wonne from them the Towne of Imperial wherein was wont to be placed and maintained one of the greatest Garrisons of the South Sea and not onely razed it to the ground but likewise kild and driven the Castilians quite from them Even so upon the East and North part of the Indies both upon the Coast of Brazil with all the firm land upon the Indies from Parabia to Cartagene the gulfe of Vraba the gulfe of Mixico and all alongst the Coast of Bahana even to their Forts in Florida they are in continuall warres with the Kings and peoples of those lands And surely under your Highnesse pardon I am confident of this opinion that it hath been a maine policie of the Kings of Spaine for these many yeares to keep us in continual warres one with another in these parts or if not to encourage us himselfe whereby being forced to looke to our home defences wee might not haue meanes to discover these his invasions abroad whereby he puts a maske before all the Princes eyes of Europe And therefore since hee is now layd open and by no Nation so much as by your Majesties subjects of this land I hope for the prevention of future mischiefe against this State as for other honourable respects and prevailent Reasons in challenging of that which is your owne or at least as much yours as his you will not bee unmindfull which doubtlesse will not tend onely to the enlightning of many soules which to this day haue sate in the shadow of death but likewise lay a ground as before said for the safety and preservation of your States Glorie Person and Posterity in despite of the Spanish treacheries in the time to come which otherwise by no meanes by the wit of mortall man can be prevented as upon my life by circumstances I will make apparant But least this field of reasoning whereinto I haue walked be too tedious unto your Highnesse I will briefly end referring my selfe to Argument with any one against this mischievous and poysonous peace with Spaine which I doe see cannot but proue very fatall to your Majestie and Common-wealth And though I be not called yet considering I am your subject I cannot forbeare in respect of my great and loyall affection to your Majestie the Prince with the rest of the noble Issue and my natiue Countrey I cannot but presume to speake of such things which I thinke now fit to be considered especially at this time even as Mercarie Gataner Chancellour of Spaine did against the peace that was concluded betwixt Francis the first and Charles the Emperour his Master for he seeing that the Emperour was disposed to make peace with the said King and to set him at libertie and that the Viceroy of Naples and all other the Lords of the Councell tended to the same and although he knew as I do now that his councell would not be accepted yet failed he not to speake what he thought but likewise refused being great Lord Chancellour of Spaine to signe the Articles which hee defended with most excellent reasons which reasons are well delivered and with much gravity of speech by Quiccardine in the oration of the said Grataner But this event made it knowne that the councell of Gataner was most noble most just and grounded as well upon the high wisedome as great zeale to the loue and good of his Countrey For as soon as the King was at liberty all the Spaniards wonderfull hopes that they expected to this peace and all the French Kings great promises to them vanished into smoake according to the opinion of that worthy Gentleman And I know no reason most noble Soveraigne that I being your subject as hee was the King of Spaines and loving you and my Country as much as ever hee did his and having a subject of the same quality to feare as he did them although I may well say as much more danger to us by the Spaniards if our peace be not built upon a sure foundation then it could any way be unto them by the French But to speake my opinion make what Articles you will and let them be guilded over with the fairest shew either they or those of their Faction if you haue any about you can devise unlesse these foure be granted on their part to you you can never make any sure peace with them or at least such a peace as if he haue the minde to breake hee will haue the advantage of you And Phillip Comines saith That for the many conclusions that hee hath seene in his time in the affaires of State that it were inexcusable folly for a Prince if hee were able for to prevent it to put himselfe under the power of another 1 That your subjects may haue free accesse to the Indies either to traffique or plant where the Spaniards haue neither conquest Seigniorie nor tribute 2. That he doe pull downe all inquisition wheresoever your people shall resort in all his Dominions and that the Customes be reduced to an ancient order 3. That he shall never come with a main Army of Ships into these Seas under colour of chasticing the Hollanders 4. That it shall be as lawfull for your subjects to serue the States in warres against them as it shall be to serue them against the States these things accorded your peace may be safe otherwise not A short view taken of Great Britaine and Spaine HIs Majestie now is of more power then any his Predecessours First because our addition of Dominion Ireland is reduced to a more absolute state of obedience and increase of