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A07039	Hay any worke for Cooper: or a briefe pistle directed by waye of an hublication to the reverende byshopps counselling them, if they will needs be barrelled vp, for feare of smelling in the nostrels of her Maiestie [and] the state, that they would vse the aduise of reuerend Martin, for the prouiding of their cooper. Because the reuerend T.C. (by which misticall letters, is vnderstood, eyther the bounsing parson of Eastmeane, or Tom Coakes his chaplaine) to bee an vnskilfull and a beceytfull [sic] tubtrimmer. Wherein worthy Martin quits himselfe like a man I warrant you, in the modest defence of his selfe and his learned pistles, and makes the coopers hoopes to flye off, and the Bishops tubs to leake out of all crye. Penned and compiled by Martin the Metropolitane.	Marprelate, Martin, pseud.; Throckmorton, Job, 1545-1601, attributed name.; Penry, John, 1559-1593, attributed name.	1589 (1589)	STC 17456; ESTC S112300	39,242	60

I assure you no other then this he flattly denieth the coiclusion wheras he might if he had any learning in him or had read any thing know that euery dunstical logician giueth this for an inuiolable precept that the conclusion is not to be denied For that must needs be true if the maior and minor be true he in omitting the maior and minor because he was not able to answere thereby granteth the conclusion to be true His answeare vnto the conclusion is that al lord Gb. were not pety popes Because pag. 74. Cranmer Ridly Hooper were not petty Popes They were not pety popes because they were not reprobates As though you block you euery petty pope and petty Antichrist were a reprobate Why no man can deny Gregory the great to be a pettye Pope and a petty petty Antichrist For he was the next immediate pope before Boniface the first that knowne Antichrist and yet this Gregory left behind him vndoubted testimonies of a chosen childe of God so might they yet be petty Popes in respecte of their office Profane T.C. his 1. and 2. reason for the lawfulnes of our church gouerment And what though good men gaue their consent vnto our church gouernement or writing vnto bishops gaue them their lordly titles Are their offices therefore lawfull then soe is the popes office For Erasmus was a good man you cannot deny and yet he both alowed of the popes office since his calling and writing vnto him gaue him his titles So did Luther since his calling also for he dedicated his booke of christian liberty vnto pope Leo the tenth The booke his Epistle vnto the Pope are both in Englishe Here I would wish the magistrat to marke what good reasons you are able to afford for your hierarchie Thirdly saith profane T.C. page 75. All Churches haue not the gouernment of Pastors and Doctors but Saxoni and Denmake haue L. bishops You are a great State man vndoubtedly T.C. that vnderstand the state of other Churches so well But herein the impudencie of a proude foole appeareth egregiously As though the testimonie of a siely Schoolemaster being also as vnlearned as a man of that trade and profession can be with any honestie would be belieued against knowne experience Yea but Saxonie and Denmarke haue Superintendents what then ergo L. Archb. and bishops I deny it Though other Churches had L. Archb. and Bb. this prooueth nothing els but that other Churches are maimed and haue their imperfections Your reason is this other good Churches are deformed therefore ours must needes be so to The kings sonne is lame therefore the children of no subiects must go vpright And these be all the good reasons which you can bring for the gouerment of Archb. and bishops against the gouerment of Christ You reson thus It must not be admitted into this kingdome because then Ciuillians shal not be able to liue in that estimation and welth wherein they now do Carnal and sensles beastes whoe are not ashamed to prefer the outward estate of men before the glory of Christs kingdom Here againe let the magestrate and other readers consider whether it be not time that such brutish men should be looked vnto Which reason thus The body of Christ which is the church must needes be maimed and deformed in this common welth because otherwise ciuillians should not be able to liue Why you enemies to the state you traytors to God and his worde you Mar-prince Mar-law Mar-magestrate Mar-church and Mar-common welth do you not know that the worlde should rather go a begging then that the glory of god by maiming his church should be defaced Who can abide this indignity The prince and state must procure god to wrath against them by continuing the deformity of his church and it may not be otherwise because the ciuilians els must fall to decay I wil tel you what you monstrous vngodly bishops though I had no feare of God before mine eies and had no hope of a better life yet the loue that I owe as a natural man vnto her maiestie and the state would inforce me to write against you her maiestie and this kingdome whome the Lord blesse with his mighty hand I vnfainedly beseech must endanger them selues vnder the peril of Gods heauy wrath rather then the maime of our church gouernment must be healed for we had rather it should be so say our bishops then wee should be thrust out for if we should be thrust out the studie of the ciuil lawe must needs goe to wrack Well if I had liued sometimes a citizen in that olde and auncient though heathenish Rome and had heard kinge D●iotarus Cesar yea or Pompei himself giue out this spech namely that the citty and empire of Rome must needes be brought subiect vnto some danger because otherwise Catelin Lentulus Cethegus with other of the nobilitie could not tell how to liue but must needs go a begging I woulde surely in the loue I ought to the safetie of that state haue called him that had vsed such a speech in judicium capitis whosoeuer he had bin and I woulde not haue doubted to haue giuen him the ouerthrow And shal I being a christian English subiect abide to heare a wicked crue of vngodly bishopps with their hangones and parasites affirme that our Queene and our State must needs be subiect vnto the greatest daunger that may be vz. the wrath of God for deforming his Church and that Gods Church must needes be maimed and deformed among vs because otherwise a few Ciuillians shal not be able to liue Shall I heare and see these thinges professed and published and in the loue I owe vnto Gods religion and her Maiesty say nothing I cannot I will not I may not be silent at this speech come what will come of it The loue of a christian Church prince and state shal I trust worke more in me then the loue of a heathen Empire and state should do Now iudge good reader who is more tollerable in a commonwealth Martin that would haue the enemies of her Maiesty remoued thence or our bishops which would haue her life and the whole kingdomes prosperitie hazarded rather then a few Ciuillians should want maintenance But I praye thee tell me T.C. why should the gouernment of Christ impouerish Ciuillians Because saith he pag. 77. the Canon law by which they liue must be altered if that were admitted Yea but Ciuillians liue by the court of Amraltie other courts as well as by the Arches vz. also the probatts of Testaments the controuersies of tythes matrimonie and many other causes which you bishops Mar-state do vsurpingly take from the ciuill magistrate would be a means of Ciuillians maintenance But are not you ashamed to professe your whole gouernment to be a gouernment ruled by the Popes Canon lawes which are bannished by statute out of this kingdome This notably sheweth that you are Mar-prince and Mar-state For howe dare you retaine

be a L. bishop if a man could thogh he were as vnlerned as Iohn of Glocester or William of Liechfeld And I tel you true our brother Westchester had as liue playe twentie nobles in a night at Priemeero on the cards as trouble him selfe with any pulpit labor and yet he thinks him self to be a sufficient bishop What a bishop such a cardplaier A bishop play 20. nobles in a night Whie a round threpence serueth the turn to make good sport 3. or 4. nights amongst honest neighbours And take heede of it brother Westchester it is an vnlawfull game if you will beleeue me Foe in winter it is no matter to take a litle sport for an od cast braces of 20. nobles when the wether is foule that men cannot go abroad to boules or to shoote What would you haue men take no recreatiō Ye but it is an old said saw inough is as good as a feast And recreations must not be made a trade and an occupation ●a master Martin Marprelate I tel you true brother mine though I haue as good a gift in pistle making as you haue at priemeero and far more delight then you can haue at your cards for the loue I beare to my brethren yet I dare not vse this sport but as a recreation not making any trade therof And cards I tel you though they bee without hornes yet they are parlous beasts Be they lawful or vnlawful take heed of them for al that For you cannot vse them but you must needs say your brother T.C. his Amen that is sweare by your faith many a time in the night wel I will neuer stande argling the matter any more with you If you will leaue your card playing so it is if you wil not trust to it it wil be the worse for you I must go simply and plainly to worke with my brethren that haue published T.C. Whosoeuer haue published that booke they haue so hooped the bishops tubbs that they haue made them to smel far more odious then euer they did euen in the nostrels of all men The booke is of 252. pages The drift thereof is to confute certaine printed and published libelles You bestowe not ful 50. pages in the answeare of any thing that euer was published in print The rest are bestowed to maintaine the belly and to confute what think you Euen the slanderous inuentions of your owne braines for the most part As that it is not lawfull for her Maiestie to allot any lands vnto the maintenaunce of the minister or the minister to liue vpō lands for this purpose allotted vnto him but is to content him selfe with a smal pention so small as he haue nothing to leaue for his wife childrē after him for whom he is not to be careful but to rest on gods prouidence and is to require no more but foode and raiment that in pouerty he might be answerable vnto our Sauiour Christ and his apostles In the confutation of these points the scriptures corruptly aplied to proue them there is bestowed aboue an 100. pages of this book that is from the 149. vnto the end Well T.C. whosoeuer thou art whosoeuer Martin is neither thou nor any man or woman in England shal know while you liue suspect and trouble as many as you wil and therefore saue your mony in seeking for him for it may be he is neerer you then you are ware of But whosoeuer thou art I say thou shewest thy selfe to be a most notorious wicked slanderer in fathering these things vppon those whome they call puritans which neuer any enioying common sense would affirme And bring me him or set downe his name and his reasons that holdeth any of the former points confuted in thy book and I wil proue him to be vtterly bereaued of his witts and his confuter to be either stark mad or a stark enemy to al religion yea to her Maiestie the state of this kingdome No no T.C. puritans hold no such points It were well for bishops that their aduersaries were thus sottishe They might then iustly insence her Maiestie and the state against them if they were of this minde These obiections in the confutation whereof thou hast bestowed so much time are so farre from hauing any puritane to be their author as whosoeuer readeth the book were he as blockheaded as Thomas of Winchester himselfe hee may easily knowe them to be obiections onely inuented by the authour of the booke himselfe For although hee bee an impudent wretch yet dareth he not set them downe as writings of any other for then he woulde haue described the author and the booke by some adient The puritans in deede holde it vnlawfull for a minister to haue such temporall reuenews as whereby tenne ministers might be well maintained vnlesse the sayd reuenews come vnto him by inheritance They holde it also vnlawfull for any state to bestowe the liuings of many ministers vpon one alone especially when there is such want of ministers liuings They holde it vnlawfull for anye minister to be Lorde ouer his brethren And they holde it vnlawfull for anye state to tollerate such vnder their gouernment Because it is vnlawfull for states to tollerate men in th●se places whereinto the word hath forbidden them to enter They affirme that our Sauiour Christe hath forbidden all ministers to be Lords Luke 22.25 And the Apostle Peter sheweth them to be none of Gods ministers which are Lords ouer Gods heritage as you Bishopps are and woulde bee accounted Those thinges T.C. y●● should haue confuted and not troubles your selfe to execute the fruites of your owne braines as an enemie to the state And in these points I do challenge you T.C. and you Deane Iohn and you Iohn Whi●gift and you doctor Coosins and you doctor Caprase Cop●●●… 〈◊〉 your name be and as many else as haue or dare write in the defence of the established church gouernment If you cannot confute my former assertions you do but in vain thinke to maintaine your selues by slaunders in fathering vppon the puritanes the ofspringes of your owne blockheads And assure your selues I wil so besoop you if you cānot defend your selues in these points as al the world shal cry shame vppon you you think protely to escape the point of your Antichristian calings by giuing out that puritans hold it vnlawfull for her maiestie to leaue any lands for the vse of the ministers maintenance I cannot but commend you for I promise you you can shift of an haynous accusation very pretily A true man bringeth vnanswerable witnesses against a robber by the high way side desireth the iudge that the lawe may proceede against him O no my Lord saith the thiefe in any case let not me be dealt with For these mine accusers haue giuen out that you are a drunkard or they haue committed treason against the state therefore I pray you beleeue my slander against thē that they may be executed so when I come to my

these lawes vnles by vertue of them you meane eyther to enforce the supremacie of the prince to go again to Rome or to come to Lambeth It is treson by Statute for any subiect in this land to proceed doctor of the Canō law and dare you professe your church gouerment to be ruled by that law As though one statute might not refer all matters of the Canon law vnto the temporall common law of this Realme and is this all you can say T.C. Yes sayth he the gouernment of Christe would bring in the iudiciall law of Moses As much as is morrall of that law or of the equitie of it would be brought in And do you gainesay it But you sodden headed Asse you the most part of that law is abrogated Some part thereof is in force among vs as the punishment of a murtherer by death and presumptuous obstinate theft by death c. Hir Maiesties prerogatiue in ecclesiastical causes should not be a whit diminished but rather greatly strengthened by Christs gouernment And no lawe should be altered but such as were contrary to the lawe of God against the profit of the common wealth and therefore there can be no danger in altering these The ministers maintenance by tythe no puritane denieth to be vnlawfull For Martin good M. Parson you must vnderstand doth account no Brownist to be a puritane nor yet a sottish Cooperist The inconuenience which you shew of the gouerment which is that men would not be ruled by it is answered afore And I praye you why should they not be better obedient vnto Gods law if the same also were established by the lawe of the lande then to the Popes lawe and his Canons You think that all men are like your selues that is like bishops such as cannot chuse but breake the laws and good orders of God and her Maiestie The lawes of Englande haue bene made when there was neuer a bishop in the Parliament as in the first yere of her Maiestie And this reason as al the rest may serue to maintaine poperie as well as the hierarchie of Bb. The gouerment of the church of Christ is no popular gouernement but it is Monarchicall in regarde of our head Christ Aristocraticall in the Eldership and Democraticall in the people Such is the ciuill gouernement of our kingdome Monarchicall in her Maiesties person Aristocraticall in the higher house of Parliament or rather at the Councell table Democraticall in the bodie of the commons of the lower house of Parliament Therefore profane T.C. this gouernment seeketh no popularity to be brought into the Church much lesse entendeth the alteration of the ciuill state that is but your slaunder of which you make an occupation And I will surely paye you for it I must be brief now but more warke for Cooper shall examine your slaunders They are nothing else but prooffes that as by your owne confessions you are bishops of the Diuell so you are enemies vnto the state For by these slaunders you go about to blinde our state that they may neuer see a perfect regiment of the Church in our dayes I saye that by your owne confession you are bishops of the Diuell I will prooue it thus You confesse that your Lordly gouernment were not lawfull and tollerable in this cōmonwealth if her Maiesty the state of the land did disclaime the same Tell me doe you not confesse this Denie it if you dare For will you say that you ought lawfully to be here in our commonwelth whether her Maiesty and the Counsell wil or no Is this the thankes that her Maiestie shall haue for tollerating you in her kingdome all this while that nowe you will saye that you and your places stand not in this kingdome by her curtesie but you haue as good right vnto your places as she hath vnto her kingdome And by this meanes your offices stande not by her good liking and the good liking of the state as do the offices of our L. high Chancellor high Treasurer and high Steward of Englande But your offices ought to stand to be in force in spight of her Maiestie the Parliament Counsell and euerie man els vnles they woulde doe you iniury Soe that I know I you dare not deny but that your offices weare vnlawfull in our common wealth if her Maiestie the Parliament and the Counsell woulde haue them abollished If you grant this then you doe not hold your offices as from God but as from man Her maiestie she holdeth hir office and her kingdome as from God and is beholding for the same vnto no prince nor state vnder heuen Your case is otherwise for you hold your offices as from her Maiestie not from god For otherwise you needed not to be any more beholding vnto her Maiestie for the same in regarde of right then she is bounde to be beholding vnto other states in regarde of her right and so you in regarde of your Lordly superioritie are not the bishops of god but as Ierom sayth the bishops of man And this the most of you confes to be true and you see how dangerous it woulde be for you to affirme the contrary namely that you holde your offices as from god Well sir if you say that you are the bishops of man Thē tell me whether you like of Dean Iohn his booke T.C. 38. O yes sayth T.C. For his grace did peruse that book we know the sufficiencie of it to be such as the Puritans are not able to answere it Well then whatsoeuer is in this booke is authenticall It is so saith T.C. otherwise his grace would not haue alowed it What say you then to the 140. page of that booke where he saith answering the treatise of the bishop of God the bishop of Man and the bishop of the Diuell that there is no bishopp of man at all but euerie B. must be either the Bishopp of God or the Bishop of the Diuel He also affirmeth none to be the bishop of god but he which hath warrant both inclusiuely and also expresly in gods word Deane Iohn lib. 4. page 340. line 7. Now you Bishops of the Diuell what say you now are you spighted of the Puritans because you like good subiects dofend the lawes of her Maiestie or els because like incarnate Diuells you are bishops of the Diuells as you your selues confesse Here againe let the Magistrate once more consider what pestilent and daungerous beasts these wretches are vnto the ciuill state For either by their owne confession they are the Bishops of the Diuell and so by that means will be the vndoing of the state if they be continued therin or else their places ought to be in this commonwealth whether her Maiestie and our state will or no because they are not as they say the bishops of man that is they haue not their superioritie and their Lordly callings ouer their brethren by humane constitution as my LL. Chancellor Treasurer and other

of the Bishops Antichristian dealing to be hidden The most part of men could not be gotten to read any thing written in the defence of the 〈◊〉 and against the other I bethought mee therefore of a way whereby men might be drawne to do both perceiuing the humors of men in these times especialy of those that are in any place to be giuen to mirth I tooke that course I might lawfully do it I for iesting is lawful by circumstances euen in the greatest matters The circumstances of time place and persons vrged me thereunto I neuer profaned the word in any iest Other mirth I vsed as a couert wherin I would bring the truth into light The Lord being the authour both of mirth and grauitie is it not lawfull in it selfe for the trueth to vse eyther of these wayes when the circumstances do make it lawful My purpose was and is to do good I know I haue don no harme howsoeuer som may iudg Martin to mar al. They are very weake one that so think In that which I haue written I know vndoubtedly that I haue done the Lord and the state of this kingdom great seruice Because I haue in som sort discouered the greatest enemies thereof And by so much the most pestilent enemies because they wound Gods relligion and corrupt the state with Atheism and loosnes and so cal for Gods vengance vppon vs all euen vnder the coulor of relligion I affirm them to be the greatest enemies that now our state hath for if it were not for them the trueth should haue more free passage herein then now it hath All states thereby would be amended and so we should not be subiect vnto Gods displeasure as now we are by reason of them Nowe let me deale with these that are in authority I do make it knowne vnto them that our bishops are the greatest enemies which we haue For they do not only go about but they haue long since fully perswaded our state that they may lawfully procure the Lord to take the sword in hand against the state if this be true haue I not said truly that they are the gretest enemies which our state hath The papistes work no such effect for they are not trusted The Atheistes haue not infected our whol state these haue The attempts of our forraine enemies may be pernicious But they are men as wee are But that God which when our bishops haue and doe make our prince and our gouernors to wadge war who is able to stand against him Wel to the point many haue put her maiestie the parliament counsell in minde that the church officers now among vs are not such as the Lord aloweth of because they are not of his owne ordaininge They haue shewed that this falt is to be amended or the Lords hand to be looked for The bishops on the otherside haue cried out vpon them that haue thus dutifully mooued the state They with a loud voice gaue out that the maiestrat may lawfully maintaine that church gouerment which best fitteth our estate as liuing in the time of peace What do they else herein but say that the magestrat in time of peace may maime and deforme the body of Christ his church That Christ hath left the gouerment of his own house vnperfect and left the same to the discretion of the magestrate wheras Moses before whome in this point of gouernment the Lord Christ is iustly preferred Heb. 3.6 made the gouernment of the legal politie so perfcet as he left not any parte thereof to the discretion of the magestrate Can they deny church officers to be members of the church They are refuted by the expresse text 1. Cor. 12. will they affirme Christ to haue left behinde him an vnperfect body of his church wanting members at the lest wise hauing such members as were only permanent at the magestrates pleasure Why Moses the seruant otherwise gouerned the house in his time And the sonne is commended in this point for wisdome and faithfulnes before him Heb 3.6 Either then that commendation of the sonn before the seruant is a false testimony or the sonne ordained a permanent gouernment in his church If permanent not to be changed What then do they that hold it may be changed at the magestrates pleasure but aduise the maiestrate by his positiue lawes to proclaime that it is his will that if there shal be a church within his dominions he will maime and deforme the same He wil ordaine therein what members he thinketh good He will make it knowne that Christ vnder his gouernment shal be made lesse faithfull then Moses was That he hath left the placing of members in his body vnto the magestrate O cursed beastes that bring this guilt vppon our estate Repent Caitifes while you haue time You shal not haue it I feare when you wil. And looke you that are in authority vnto the equity of the controuersie betwene our wicked bishops and those who woulde haue the disorders of our Churche amended Take heed you be not caried away with slaunders Christs gouerment is neither Mar-prince Mar-state Mar-law nor Mar-magistrate The liuing God whose cause is pleaded for will bee reuenged of you if you giue eare vnto this slander contrary to so many testimonies as are brought out of his word to prooue the contrary He denounceth his wrath against all you that thinke it lawfull for you to maim or deform his church he accounteth his Churche maimed when those offices are therein placed whiche hee hath not appointed to be members thereof he also testifieth that there be no mēbers of his appointment in the Churche but such as he himselfe hath named in his word and those that he hath named man must not displace for so he shoulde put the bodie out of ioynt Nowe our bishops holding the contrary and bearing you in hande that you may practize the contrary do they not driue you to prouoke the Lorde to anger against your owne soules And are they not your enemies They hold the contrary I say for they say that her Maiestie may alter this gouernment now established and thereby they shew either this gouerment to be vnlawfull or that the magistrat may presume to place those members in Gods Church which the Lord neuer mentioned in his word And I beseech you marke howe the case standeth betweene these wretches those whom they call puritans 1 The puritans falsely so called shew it to be vnlawfull for the magistrate to goe about to make any members for the bodie of Christ 2 They hold all officers of the Church to be members of the bodie Rom. 12.6 1. cor 12.8.28 3 And therfore they hold the altering or the abolishing of the offices of church gouernment to be the altering abolishing of the members of the Church 4 The altering abolishing of which members they holde to be vnlawfull because it must needs be a maime vnto the bodie 5 They hold Christ Iesus to haue set downe as