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A60591 Reasons humbly offered for the pasing [sic] a bill for the hindering the home consumption of East-India silks, bengals &c. and an answer to the author of several objections against the said bill, in a book, entitled, an essay on the East-India trade / by T. S. ...; with a postscript containing the French King's decree concerning India manufactures. T. S. (Thomas Smith); France. Conseil d'Etat. 1697 (1697) Wing S4255; ESTC R200381 10,397 36

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the Money they get upon Land the Gentlemen wear the Silk and thereby consume more Wooll and Employ twice as many People as they would do if they wore Woollen Garments Now Sir Is there any false Latin in this way of Trade And as angry as you are with the Silk weaver what would the Turky and Italian Merchants do with their Silk but for them Would you have them carry it to the Bay of Bengall Object 9. Two sorts of Silks come from India and only hinder the French Dutch and Italian Silks Answer Sir I can tell you Twenty sorts of English Stuffs made of Wooll and Silk and VVooll that they are directly opposite to which neither French Dutch or Italians ever did or can pretend to Import upon us though we have done sometimes upon them And as to the Dutch and French except Alamodes and Lute-strings I know of none have come to England for many Years from Italy we have some but nothing comparable to the Woollen Manufactury we carry thither though you are pleased to tell us more Silks are Imported from Holland than from India Sir I know of none but Velvets besides what come by the way of Holland from Italy Object 10. We want Hands to carry on our Manufacturies Answer We want Employment for the Hands we have if we had more Employments we might easily have Hands enough Object 11. The East-India Trade doth not interfere with such Manufactaries as is the Interest of England to promote Answer Doth not this Trade interfere with the Norwich and London and Canterbury Trade and with the Shallone-makers in Essex Suffolk Hampshire and the Makers of Rutteens and the new Manufactury at Kettering in Northamptonshire and at Peterburrough Sir I could compute these to be great numbers and to work up 25 Thousand Packs of English Wooll and when Employed to get two Millions of Money in a Year And though this Money is laid out upon the produce of Land yet the Farmer and Landlord find the Benefit and is it not the Interest of this Nation to incourage these Manufactories What nothing goe down but Cloth I confess I love that Manufactory but what shall we do with Lincolnshire Wooll c. You are against burying of it Object 12. No Laws to render this Prohibition Effectual but summary Laws Answer If it do no good to us it will do you no hurt and since you see so far beyond others you need not oppose the Bill Object 13. A Prohibition is not to be made in time of War Answer I think it a very fit Time when we want Mony to do what we can to get it and the East India Manufactories being bought so Cheap if Exported are very like to fetch us Money or if not Imported will hinder the carrying Money away and we shall be able to hold out the longer Pray Sir is it a fit time for thousands of Families to Starve or run to Ireland or Holland and there set up the English Manufactories Object 14. But the want of Employment proceeds not from East-India Goods but want of Mony Answer That want of Money and Credit is a great Cause of a stop to Trade but there is this difference between the Petitioners for this Bill and other Manufacturers in England others can Trade as far as they can in hope of a Trade at one Time or other we have no such hope we know not but next Month more Ships may come from the Indies though we have enough and too many of their Goods already and what sorts they will bring we know not and they can under Sell us and we cannot be supposed to carry our Silks back again to Turkey Italy or Holland so that if we lose our own Market for English Silk we must take one for India though we know we go for to Ruine our Native Country our Friends and Relations and though happily you may be willing to it I believe the Gentry of England that have taken such Care for the Preservation of the Breed of Cattle will provide for the Subfistence of some of the best of Manufactories that ever England or Europe had This is what of Argument upon first Reading I can find against this Bill in this Book I may take a Time to examine it Paragraph by Paragraph in the mean Time I beg the Lords and Commons of Englands to take one Instance to shew the Profit of this Trade to India Suppose Merchants should carry from hence Clothiers Spinners Weavers Sheermen Fullers to Spain and instead of bringing Spanish Wooll to England to Employ our Poor should carry our Money to Spain to Employ their Poor and then bring the Spanish Cloth to England and under-sell and out-sell our Clothiers and when they are Impoverished and their Poor Starving should come to the Parliament for Relief and these Merchants Cry out Oh! this is a Beneficial Trade to England it is Cramping Trade to touch it the Clothiers are too numerous we will give Money to Ruin them the Spanish Wooll Manufactury is unnatural to England as 't is a Forreign Growth and yet this would be a Tolerable Trade upon many Accompts compared with that of India POSTCRIPT WHereas this Gentleman commends the Prudence of the French King in not allowing these Goods to be Imported upon France by any of his Neighbours but would insinuate that they are allowed to he brought in and consumed if brought from In-India by his own Subjects Therefore to shew his Mistake we have annexed the French Kings Decree by which it appears he allows not of their Consumption in his Country though Imported by his own Merchants or taken by his Men of War or Privateers and so cost him nothing A DECREE of the French King's Councel of State Concerning Callacoes printed in East-India or painted in the Kingdom and other China and India Silks Stuffs and flowred with Gold and Silver given the 26th of October 1686. THE King being informed That the great quantities of Callicoes Printed in East-India or Painted in the Kingdom and other China and India Silks Stuffs and Stuffs flowered with Gold and Silver have not only given occasion of Transporting many Millions but also have diminished the Manufactures of old established in France for making of Silk Woollen Linnen and Hemp-Stuffs and at the same time the Ruin and Destruction of the Working People who by want of Work having no Occupation or Subsistence for their Families are gone out of the Kingdom the which being needful to provide a Remedy for and for that effect to hinder the Trade and Sale in the Kingdom of the said printed Callacoes and India and China Silks and Stuffs nevertheless granting to the Owners a reasonable time to sell them in Having heard the report of Mounsier Pelletier Counseller ordinary of the Kings Royal Council and Comptroller-General of the Finances his Majesty in his Council hath ordered and doth order that from the begining of the day of the Publication of the present Decree all the Manufactures established in the Kingdom for Painting of the white Callicoes shall be abolished and the Moulds serving to the Printing of them shall be broke and destroyed His Majesty doth forbid most expresly the Re-establishing thereof Also to his Subjects the Painting of the said Callicoes and to the Engravers the making of any Moulds serving to the said Impressions under the penalty of loosing the said Callacoes Moulds and other Vtensils and Three Thousand Livers Fine to be paid without diminution one third part to the Informer the second part to the Hospitals of the place the third to the Farmers of the Revenue And as concerning the Painted Callicoes and other China and India Silks Stuffs and Stuffs Flowered with Gold and Silver his Majesty hath granted and doth grant to the last of December 1687 next to the Merchants and others the permission of Selling them as they shall think sit The said time being expired his Majesty doth forbid all Persons of what Quality and Condition whatsoever they are the exposing and selling thereof and to particulars the buying thereof doth order That those found in all Ware-houses and Shops shall be burnt and the Proprietors condemned to the like Fine of three Thousand Livers paid as above said His Majesty doth permit nevertheless the Entry Sale and Retail of the said White Callicoes in his Kingdom paying for them the Taxes according to the decree of the Council the 30th of April last which shall be executed and that of the 15th of the present Month to the last of December 1687 next year His Majesty doth command the Lieutenant of the Policy of the City of Paris and the Intendants and Commissaries of the Provinces and Generalties of the Kingdom to cause the present Decree to be executed being published and affixed in all places where need shall be that no Body should be ignorant thereof Done in the Kings-State-Council held at Fontainbleau Signed COQUILLE FINIS