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A23834 Remarks upon the ecclesiastical history of the antient churches of the Albigenses by Peter Allix ... Allix, Pierre, 1641-1717. 1692 (1692) Wing A1230; ESTC R14912 189,539 306

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in France and Germany he might be look'd upon as the Apostolical Vicar and so by his means the Decrees of the Apostolical See might be made known to the Bishops and on the other hand that any Matters of importance might by him be communicated to the Apostolick See and that all Affairs of moment and difficulty might by his Suggestion be recommended to the Apostolick See to be cleared and determined Whereupon the Emperor demanded of the Bishops what Answer they designed to return to these Apostolical Letters who answer'd to this effect That saving the Right and Priviledges of each Metropolitan according to the sacred Canons and the Decrees of the Popes of the See of Rome promulg'd from the said sacred Canons they would obey the Apostolical Commands of Pope John And when the Emperor and the Apostolical Legats had done their utmost Endeavours to perswade the Bishops to an absolute Answer that they would obey without reserve in accepting of Ansegisus for their Primate as the Pope had written yet could they never draw from them any other Answer Then the Emperor commanded a Chair to be set above all the Bishops of his Cisalpine Kingdom next to John Bishop of Tusculanum who sat at his Right-hand and commanded Ansegisus to take place of all the Bishops that had been ordained before him and to sit down in that Chair the Archbishop of Rheims protesting against it in the hearing of them all as a thing directly contrary to the sacred Canons In like manner the day before the Ides of July the same Letter concerning the Primacy of Ansegisus was read a second time at the Emperor's Command and the Bishops Answer demanded thereupon Whereupon the Archbishops answered severally for themselves That as their Predecessors had been regularly obedient to his Predecessors so would they be to his Decrees So likewise at the Command of the Apostolical Legats that the Bishops should meet the 17 th day before the Kalends of August the Emperor entred the Synod at nine a Clock in the Morning being accompanied by the Apostolical Legates and all took their Places as before Then Johannes Aretinus read a certain Paper which had neither Reason nor Authority Afterwards Odo Bishop of Beauvais read some Articles set down by the Apostolical Legats and by Ansegisus and Odo without the Knowledg of the Synod between containing nothing to the purpose and besides void of all Reason and Authority which for that reason are not here added And then again a Motion was made concerning the Primacy of Ansegisus who after all could obtain no more this last time than he did at the first day of the Synod From which account it is most evident that notwithstanding all the pains Charles the Bald took to oblige the Pope whose Friendship he had occasion for and whose Ambition he maintain'd by trampling upon the Ecclesiastical Laws and the Rights of the Prelats of France yet the Bishops continued firm in their Judgments and would not suffer themselves to be enslaved as the Pope would fain have had them This hapned in the year 876. In particular we may justly observe concerning these Parts where the Albigenses have appear'd with the greatest lustre 1 st That the greatest part of these Diocesses being rent off from the Empire after the year 409 when Alaric made Tholouse the Seat of the Kingdom of the Visi-Goths it continued so divided till it was again reduc'd under the Power of the French by Clovis in the year of our Lord 507. 2 dly That since that time we find that these parts of France have been almost always united with the Churches of Spain as appears from the Subscriptions of the Synods held in Spain 3 dly That they were never to speak properly re-united with the Body of the Churches of France till the Reign of the Emperor Charlemain 4 thly That the Power of the Popes in France hath been so very inconsiderable that a Legat of the Pope having undertaken to consecrate a Chappel in Anjou by the Duke's Order but without consent of the Bishop Radulphus Glaber who relates this History could not forbear exclaiming against this Encroachment Baronius on the other hand storms against Glaber but the one of them writ what those of his time thought and spoke concerning it whereas the other gave himself entirely up to the Power of Prejudice and followed the Design he had undertaken of accommodating antient History with the Interest of the Court of Rome on which he had his Dependance But we are especially to observe that the Popes never began to exercise their absolute Power there till they had setled their Legats in those Parts and had brought all Causes to be tried at their Tribunal Thus Paschal II. appointed Girard Bishop of Angoulesm to be his Vicar in the Provinces of Bourges Bourdeaux Tours and Britain in the year 1107 as appears by the Commission granted by Paschal II. to Girard Bishop of Angoulesm published by D' Achery Thus the Legantine Power in the Diocess of Ausch was given after the year 1102 to William Archbishop of Ausch as De Marca shews on the Council of Clermont What I have just now observed is so certain that Mezeray hath publickly own'd it in his Chronological Abridgment From the time of the 8 th Century the Popes found ways to lessen the Power of Metropolitans by obliging them by the Decree of a Council held at Mentz by St. Boniface which forced them to receive the Pallium at Rome and to subject themselves and be canonically obedient in all Points to the Church of Rome which Profession was afterwards changed into an Oath of Fidelity under Gregory VII They also attributed to themselves excluding all others the Power of annulling the Spiritual Marriage which a Bishop contracts with his Church and to give him the liberty to espouse another They had extended their Patriarchal Jurisdiction all over the West by obliging the Bishops to take Confirmation from them for which they paid certain Dues which in process of time were changed into what they call Annates and by taking cognizance of those things which belonged to the Bishops only Nay what is more they had in a manner wholly abolished the Provincial Councils in taking away their Soveraignty by nulling of their Decrees so that these Assemblies were at last wholly left off as useless because they afforded nothing to those who assisted at them save the Displeasure of frequently seeing their Determinations made void at Rome without once hearing their Reasons Gregory VII established it for a Rule of Common Right that no Body should dare to condemn any Person who had appeal'd to the Holy See But they never made a greater Breach upon the Liberties of the Gallican Church than when they introduced this Opinion that no Council could be assembled without their Authority and when after several Attempts to establish perpetual Vicars in Gaul they found the way of having their Legats received there To this purpose they