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A02208 The dialogues of S. Gregorie, surnamed the Greate: Pope of Rome: and the first of that name deuided into fower bookes. Wherein he intreateth of the liues, and miracles of the saintes in Italie: and of the eternitie of mens soules. With a shorte treatise of sundry miracles, wrought at the shrines of martyrs: taken out of S. Augustin. Together with a notable miracle wrought by S. Bernard, in confirmation of diuers articles of religion. Translated into our English tongue by P.W.; Dialogi. Part 1. English Gregory I, Pope, ca. 540-604.; Woodward, Philip, ca. 1557-1610.; Augustine, Saint, Bishop of Hippo. De civitate Dei. Book 22. Chapter 8. English. 1608 (1608) STC 12349; ESTC S121026 216,240 619

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within The next morninge verye earelye the Arrian Bishop came thither with many in his company meaninge by force to breake open the dores But suddainlye by miracle the lockes were cast far of and the dores of them selues making a great noise flewe open and all the lampes before putt out were lightened againe by fire descendinge from heauen and the Arrian Bishop that came to enter the churche by violence was suddainly strooken blinde so that other men were faine to leade him backe againe to his owne lodginge Which strange accident when the Lombardes there about vnderstoode they durst not any more presume to violate catholique places and so it fell out wonderfully by Goddes prouidence that for as muche as the lampes in S. Paules churche were by reason of him put out that at one and the selfe same tyme bothe he lost the lighte of his eies and the churche receiued her former lighte againe HOVV A CHVRCHE OF THE Arrians in Rome was hallowed according to the catholick manner CHAPTER XXX NEither is that to be passed ouer in silence which God of his mercye vouchsafed two yers since to shewe in this citye to the great condemnation of the Arrian heresye for parte of that which I intende nowe to speake of many of the people knowe to be true parte the Priest and keepers of the churche affirme that they sawe and hearde A churche of the Arrians in that parte of the city which is called Subura remayned vntil two years since with the dores shut vp at which tyme being desirous that it shoulde be hallowed in the catholique faithe we brought with vs thither the reliques of the blessed martirs S. Steuene and S. Reseruation translation and reuerence of relickes Agatha and so with great multitudes of people singing of praises to almighty God we entred the churche and when the solemnitye or masse was in celebratinge and the people by reason of the straighte place thruste one an other some of them that stoode without the chancell heard an hogge runninge vp and downe throughe theire legges and eache one perceiuinge it tolde it to his next fellowe but the hogge made towardes the churche dore to go forth striking all those into great admiration by whom he passed but thoughe they heard him yet none there was that sawe him which strange thinge God of pietye vouchsafed to shewe to the end we shoulde vnderstande how that the vncleane spirit which before possessed that place was nowe departed and gone when masse Masse was done we went awaye but the nighte followinge such a noise was hearde in the toppe of the churche as thoughe some body had there runne vp and downe and the next nighte after that a far greater and withall of a suddain such a terrible cracke there was as thoughe the whole church had bene quite fallling downe which forthwith vanished awaye and neuer after was the churche troubled any more by the olde enemye but by the great stirr which he kept before his departure he made it apparaunt that he went very vnwillinglye from that place which so longe tyme he had possessed Not manye daies after in a passinge faire and clere daye a cloude miraculouslye descended vpon the altar of the same churche couering it as it had bene with a canopye and filled the churche with suche a kinde of terror and sweetnes that thoughe the dores were wide open yet none durst presume to enter in The Priest also and the keepers of the churche and those which were come thither to saye masse Saying of mass behelde the selfe same thinge yet could they not goe in althoughe they felt the sweetenes of that straunge perfume Likewise vpon an other daye the lampes hanginge without lighte fire came from heauen and sett them a burninge and a fewe daies after when masse was ended and the keeper of the churche had putt out the lampes and was departed yet returninge backe againe he founde them burninge which before he had putt forth but thinckinge that he had done it negligently he did it nowe more carefully the second tyme and so departed the churche and shutt the dore but returninge three houres after he founde them againe burning as before to the ende that by the very light the worlde mighte manifestly knowe how that place was from darckenes translated to lighte Peter Althoughe we be in great miseryes and tribulations yet these straunge miracles which God vouchsafeth to worcke do plainly declare that he hath not vtterlye forsaken and giuen vs ouer Gregory Albeit I was determined to recount vnto you only such straunge thinges as were done in Italye are you for all that content to the further condemnation of the saide Arrian heresy that I turne a little my speeche to Spaine and so by Africk returne backe againe to Italye Peter Goe whether you will willing●ye will I trauaile with you and ioyfullye returne home againe OF KINGE HERMIGILDVS sonne to Leuigildus kinge of the Visegothes who was for the catholicke faithe put to deathe by his father CHAPTER XXXI Gregory NOt longe since as I haue learned of many which came from Spaine kinge Hermigildus sonne of Leuigildus kinge of the Visegothes was from Arrian heresye lately conuerted to the catholicke faithe by the most reuerent man Leander Bishoppe of Seuill with whom I was not longe since familiarly acquainted which yonge Prince vpon his conuersion his father beinge an Arrian laboured both by large promises and terrible threates to drawe againe to his former error but when most constantlye his sonne answered that he wolde neuer forsake the true faithe which he had once imbraced his father in great āger tooke awaye his kingdom and beside depriued him of all wealth and riches and perceiuinge that with all this his minde was nothinge moued he committed him to straight prison laying irons both vpon his necke and handes Vpon this the yonge kinge Hermigildus began nowe to contemne his earthly kingdome and to seeke with great desire after the kingdome of heauen and VVearing of heare cloth lyinge in prison fast bounde he prayed to almighty God in heare cloth to sende him heauenly comforte and so muche the more did he despise the glorye of this transitory worlde by how muche he knewe him selfe in that case that he had now nothinge that coulde be taken from him When the solemne feast of Easter The feast of Easter was come his wicked father sent vnto him in the deade of the nighte an Arrian Bishop to giue him the communion of a sacrilegious consecration that he mighte thereby againe recouer his fathers grace and fauour but the man of God as he oughte sharpely reprehended that Arrian Bishop which came vnto him and giuing him such entertainement as his desertes required vtterly reiected him for albeit outwardly he laye there in bandes yet inwardly to him selfe he stoode secure in the height of his owne soule The father at the returne of the Arrian prelat vnderstandinge these newes fell into such a rage that
synne can iustlye be punnished without ende which had an end when it was committed Gregory This which you saye mighte haue some reason yf the iust iudge did only consider the synnes committed and not the mindes vvith which they were committed for the reason why wicked men made an end of synninge was because they also made an end of their life for willingly they wolde had it bene it theire power haue liued without ende that they mighte in like manner haue sinned without ende For they doe playnely declare that they desired alwaies to liue in sunne who neuer so longe as they were in this world gaue ouer theire wicked life and therfore it belongeth to the great iustice of the supreme iudge that they sholde neuer want tormentes and punnishement in the next worlde who in this wolde neuer giue ouer theire vvicked and sinfull life Peter But no iudge that loueth iustice taketh pleasure in crueltye and the ende vvhy the iustmaster commandeth his vvicked seruaunt to be punnished is that he may giue ouer his levvd life Yf then the vvicked that are tormented in hell fire neuer come to amend them selues to vvhat ende shall they alvvaies burne in those flames Gregory Almightye God because he is mercifull and full of pitty taketh no pleasure in the tormentes of wretched men but because he is also iust therfore doth he neuer giue ouer to punnishe the wicked All which being condemned to perpetuall paines punnished they are for theire owne wickednes and yet shall they alwaies there burne in fire for some ende and that is that all those which be iust and Gods seruantes may in God beholde the ioyes which they possesse and in them see the tormentes which they haue escaped to the end that they may thereby alwaies acknowledge them selues gratefull to God for his grace in that they perceiue throughe his diuine assistaunce what synnes they haue ouercome which they beholde in others to be punnished euerlastinglye Peter And how I praye you can they be holy and sainctes yf they pray not for theire enemies whom they see to ly in such tormentes when it is saide to them Pray for your enemies Math. 5 v. 44. Gregory They praye for theire enemies at such tyme as theire hartes may be turned to fruitfull penance and so besaued for to what purpose els do we praye for our enemies but as the Apostle saith that God may giue them repentance 2. Timoth 2. v. 25. to knowe the truthe and recouer them selues from the deuil of whom they are held captiue at his will Peter I like very well of your sayinge for howe shall they pray for them who by no meanes can be conuerted from theire wickeones and broughte to do the worckes of iustice Gregory You see then that the reason is all one why in the next life none shall praye for men condemned for euer to hell fire that there is nowe of not praying for the deuill and his angels sentenced to euerlasting tormentes and this also is the very reason why holy men do not nowe pray for them that dye in theire infidelitye and knovvne vvicked life for seing certaine it is that they be condemned to endlesse paines to vvhat purpose should they pray for them vvhen they knovve that no petition vvill be admitted of God theire iust iudge And therfore yf novve holy men liuing vpon earth take no compassion of those that be dead and damned for theire synnes vvhen as yet they knovve that them selues doe some thinge throughe the frailty of the fleshe vvhich is also to be iudged hovv much more straightly and seuerelye doe they beholde the tormentes of the damned vvhen they be them selues deliuered from all vice of corruption and be more nerelye vnited to true iustice it selfe for the force of iustice doth so possesse theire soules in that they be so intrinsecall vvith the most iust iudge that they list not by any meanes to do that vvhich theye knovve is not conformable to his diuine pleasure Peter The reason you bringe is so clere that I can not gaine say it but novv an other question commeth to my minde and that is how the soule can truly be called immortall seing certaine it is that it doth dye in that perpetuall fire HOVV THE SOVLE IS SAID to be immortall and neuer to dye if it be punnished with the sentence of deathe CHAPTER XLV Gregory BEcause there be two manner of liues consequently also there be two manner of deathes For one kinde of life there is by which we liue in God another which we receiued by our creation orgeneration and therfore one thinge it is to liue blessedlye and an other thinge to liue naturallye The soule therfore is both mortall and immortall mortall because it looseth the felicitye of an happy life and immortall in that it alwaies keepeth his naturall life which can neuer be loste no not when it is sentenced to perpetuall death for in that state thoughe it hath not a blessed life yet it doth retaine still the former being and naturall life by reason whereof it is inforced to suffer death without death defect without defect and end without end seing the death which it indudureth is immortall the desect w●ich it suffereth neuer faileth and the end which it hath is infinite and without ende Peter What man is he thoughe neuer so holy that comming to leaue this mortall life hath not iust cause to fea●e the vnspeakeable sen●●n●e of damnation for althoughe he knoweth what he hath done yet ignorant he is not howe straightlye his worckes shall be examined and iudged OF A CERTAINE HOLY MAN that was assraide when he came to dye CHAPTER XLXVI Gregory IT is euen so Peter as you saye And yet sometyme the only feare of death doth purge the soules of iust men from theire smaller synnes as you and I haue often hearde of a certaine holy man that was very much affraide when he came to dye and yet after he was deade appeared to his disciples in a white stoale reporting to them in what excellent manner he was receiued when he departed out of this worlde HOVV SOME BY DIVINE reuelation are discharged from feare at theire death And of the manner how the monkes Anthony Merulus and Iohn departed this life CHAPTER XLVII SOmetyme also almightye God doth by diuine reuelation strengthen the mindes of them that be fearefull to the end that they should not be affraide of death For a certaine monke there vvas called Anthonye that liued together with me in my Monasterye who by daily teares laboured to come to the ioyes of heauen and when as he did verye carefullye and with great zeale of soule meditate vpon the sacred scriptures he soughte not so muche for cunninge and knowledge as for teares and contrition of hart that by meanes thereof his soule mighte be stirred vp and inflamed and that by contemninge all earthly thinges he mighte with the winges of contemplation flye vnto the kingdome of heauen This man vpon a
nighte by reuelation was admonished in this manner Make your selfe readye because our Lorde hath giuen commandement for your departure and when he answered that he had not wherewith to defraye the charges of that iorny straighte-waies he hearde these comfortable wordes Yf you take care for your synnes they be forgiuen you which thinge thoughe he had hearde once and yet for all that was in great feare an other nighte he had againe the same vision and so after fiue daies he fell sicke of an agewe and as the other monkes were in praying and weeping about him he departed this life An other monke there was in the same Monasterye called Merulus who was wonderfullye giuen to ●eares and bestowing of almes and no tyme almost passed him except it were when he was at meate or a slepe in which he did not sing psalmes This man by vision in the nighte sawe a crowne made of white flowers to descende vpon his heade and straighte after falling sicke he died with great quiet and ioye of minde Fouretene yeares after when Peter who nowe hath the gouernment of my Monasterye went about to make a graue for him selfe harde by Merulus sepulchre such a fragrant and pleasaunt smell as he saith came out of it as thoughe it had bene a storehouse of all manner of swete flowers By which it appeared plainlye that it was verye true which before he had sene by vision in the nighte Likewise in the same Monasterye there was an other called Iohn who was a yonge man of great towardnes and one that ledd his life with greate circumspection humility swetenes and grauitye This man falling sore sicke sawe in his great extremitye by vision in the nighte an olde man to come vnto him who touched him with a wande sayinge Rise vpe for you shall not dye of this sickenes but make your selfe readye for you haue not any longe tyme to staye in this worlde and forthvvith thoughe the phisitions dispaired of his health yet he recouered and became perfectlye well The vision which he sawe he told to others and for two yeares followinge as I saide he serued God in such sort that his great deuotion surpassed his yonge yeares Three yeares since an other monke died who was buried in the churche-yarde of the same Monasterye and when we had ended all his ●uneralles and were departed this Iolme as him selfe with pale face and great trembling tolde vs remayned there still where he hearde that monke which was buried to call him out of the graue that it was so indeede the end following did shewe for ten daies after he fell sicke of an agewe and so departed this life Peter Willingly wolde I learne whether we ought to obserue such visiōs as be reuealed to vs by nighte in our slepe VVHETHER DREAMES ARE TO be beleeued and how many kinde of dreames there be CHAPTER XLVIII Gregory COncerninge this pointe Peter you must vnderstande that there are six kinde of dreames For sometyme they procede of too much fulnes or emptines of the stomacke sometyme by illusion sometyme both by thought and illusion sometyme by reuelation and sometyme both by thoughte and reuelation The two first all by experience knowe to be true and the fower latter we finde mentioned in holy scripture For yf dreames did not sometyme procede by illusion from our secret enemye neuer wolde the wise man haue saide Dreames haue made manye Eccles 34. to err and hooping in them haue they bene deceiued and againe You shall not be sothsaiers nor obserue dreames by which wordes we see howe they are to be detested that are compared with soothsayinges Againe yf dreames did not sometyme procede both of thoughte together with illusion the wise man vvoulde not haue saide Dreames follow ccl●s 5. many cares And yf sometyme also they did not come by mysticall reuelation Ioseph had neuer knovvne by dreame ●enes 37. that he sholde haue bene exalted aboue his brethren neither the Angell vvolde Aath. 2. euer in a dreame haue admonished the spouse of our Ladye to flye avvaye vvith the childe into Egipt Againe yf sometyme they did not also procede both from thoughtes and diuine reuelation neuer vvolde the prophet Daniell disputing of Nabuchod mosors dreame haue begun from the roote of his former thoughtes saying Thow Daniel 2. ô king diddest beginne to thincke in thy ●edd what should happen in tymes to come and he that reuealeth mysteries did shewe the what thinges should come and a little after Thow diddest see and behold as it were a great statua that great statua and highe of stature did stand against the c. Wherfore seing Daniell doth with reuerence insin●ate that the dreame shoulde come to passe and also declareth from what cogitation it did springe plainlye do we learne that dreames sometymes do come both of thought and reuelation together But seing dreames do growe from such diue●s rootes with so much the more difficultye oughte we to beleeue them because it doth not easily appeare vnto vs from what cause they do proceede Holy men indeed by a certaine in warde spirituall tast doe discerne betwixt illusions and true reuelatiōs by the very voices or representations of the visions them selues so that they knowe what they receiue from the goode spirit and what they suffer by illusion from the wicked and therfore yf our mynde be not herein verye attentiue and vigilant it falleth into many vanityes throughe the deceipt of the wicked spirit who sometyme vseth to foretell many true thinges that in the ende he may by some falshoode insnare our soule OF ONE VVHO IN HIS DREAME had longe lise promised him and yet died shortly after CHAPTER XLIX AS not longe since it is most certaine that it befell to one that liued amongest vs who being much giuen to obserue dreames had one nighte in a dreame longe life promised him and when as he had made prouision of great store of money for the maintenance of his manye daies he was so suddainlye taken out of this life that he lefte it all behinde him without euer hauing any vse thereof and caried not with him any good worckes to the next worlde Peter I remember verye well who it was but let vs I praye you prosecute such questions as we began to intreat of Doth any profit thincke you redounde to mens soules yf theire bodies be buried in the churche VVHETHER THE SOVLES receiue any commoditye if theire bodies he buried in the churche CHAPTER L. Gregory SVch as dye not in mortall synne ne si nmorand ne not receiue this benefit by hauing theire bodies buried in the churche for when their friendes come thither and beholde their sepulchres then do they remember them and pray vnto God for theire soules● but those that depart Praier for the deade this life in the state of deadly synne receiue not any absolution from theire synnes but rather be more punnished in hell for hauing theire bodies buried in the