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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A41319	An answer to Mr. Thomas Grantham's book, called, A dialogue between the Baptist and the Presbyterian by Martin Finch.	Finch, Martin, 1628?-1698.	1691 (1691)	Wing F942; ESTC R7436	100,803	186

these Authors as to throw down the whole Arminian Doctrine and in the most plain and popular way that I could to set forth the Truth of God to the Capacity of ordinary Christians The Lord add his Blessing and give us Vnderstanding in all things Norwich Jun. 11. 1691. M. F. THE CONTENTS Chap. I. AN Examination of Mr. Grantham's Title Page Chap. II. A Vindication of Dr. Collinges Chap. III. That Christ did not die for all Adam's Posterity Chap. IV. Ten Arguments to prove that all that Christ died for shall be saved Chap. V. Of Election and Reprobation Chap. VI. Of God's Eternal Decrees what shall come to pass in time Chap. VII Of the Father's drawing the Elect to Christ Chap. VIII Of the Saints Perseverance in Grace Chap. IX An Answer to Mr. Grantham's Queries CHAP. I. Examination of the Author's Title Page THE Person with whom I have now to do calls his Book A Dialogue between the Baptist and the Presbyterian and stileth himself Messenger of the Baptized Churches in Lincolnshire It is fit to enquire a little into these two Titles he giveth himself He stileth himself the Baptist Indeed we read Mat. 3.1 2 3. In those days came John the Baptist preaching in the wilderness of Judea and saying Repens ye for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand and this is he that was spoken of by the Prophet Esaias saying The voice of one crying in the wilderness Prepare ye the way of the Lord make his paths straight So we read of John the Baptist that was prophesied of by Esaias who is already come but I find no Prophecy of any Thomas the Baptist that was to be sent of God John is called the Baptist because he Baptized Christ himself and because he was sent in an extraordinary way to Baptize the people of the Jews I think it is too high a Title for any man now living in the World to call himself the Baptist 2. This Author stiles himself Messenger of the Baptized Churches in Lincolnshire I suppose that all the Churches and Congregations in Lincolnshire of all perswasions do think that the Members of their Churches are Baptized tho' not in this Author's way and is he the Messenger of them all But take it for the Churches of his own Perswasion Let us enquire how he is their Messenger We read of Messengers of the Churches 2 Cor. 8.23.24 Whether any do enquire of Titus he is my partner and fellow-helper or our Brethren be enquired of they are the Messengers of the Churches and the glory of Christ Wherefore shew ye to them and before the Churches the proof of your Love and of our boasting on your behalf As for the Messengers of the Churches here spoken of as such they were only chosen by some Churches to travel up and down to other Churches for a short space to get Contribution and Relief for other Churches that were in great want by being spoiled of their Goods by Persecutors or by some other means brought to some great outward necessities And if this Author be a Messenger of Churches in that way he hath undertaken a good work and I hope that those he is so violent against will be as Charitable to relieve the necessities of other Christians though not of their Perswasion as he can expect But when he calleth himself Messenger of the Baptized Churches in Lincolnshire he hath another meaning We read of the Angels of the seven Churches Rev. 1.20 Now by the Angels of those Churches is meant Messengers of the Lord to those Churches The Lord's Messengers to declare his Mind and Will to them Here were several Angels and Messengers of the Seven Churches but one Man was not the Angel or Messenger of several Churches The Angel of the Church of Ephesus was not the Angel of the Church of Pergamos and of the rest of the Seven Churches So that it is likely that this Author counteth himself to have Jurisdiction and Authority over many Churches And truly if he be the Baptist a Title given only to John hitherto and be Messenger at the same time of several Churches we know not how many and have Spiritual Power over them he is an extraordinary person and 't is no wonder that he deals with so many persons and things Yet truly I should think if he were more than an ordinary Presbyter he should visit with more Mildness and Moderation There is another thing in the Title Page that is very bold and daring to the most high God He represents the Presbyterians as holding Cruel and Soul-devouring Doctrines making God the ordainer of all the Sins of Men and Devils and reprobating the greatest part of mankind without any help of Salvation 1. Concerning God's ordaining of all the sins of Men and Devils I shall speak God willing in answer to your Book and shew in what Sense God ordained and decreed to leave Angels and Men to themselves and so to sin 2 As to Reprobating the greatest part of mankind without any help of Salvation this you call A Cruel and Soul-devouring Doctrine I answer 1. That I suppose your self hold that the greatest part of mankind do in the end perish eternally I am sure our Saviour declared that few there be that find the strait gate and narrow way to Heaven That 't is but a little Flock to whom God gives the Kingdom of Heaven That tho' many are called yet few are chosen Not but those that are saved are a Multitude which no Man can number Rev. 7.9 yet comparatively they are few they are few in comparison of those that perish 2. Whether they that perish were ordained of old from Eternity to Condemnation for their sins or reprobated in time as you hold Truly this little alters the case As for the greatest part of mankind reprobated they are and cast into Hell at last without any help or hope of Salvation and if this be cruel Doctrine have a care that you don't contend and strive with the holy Sovereignty and Justice of God and when you argue with men about these things have a care you don't quarrel with God himself Do you think that those that do not adore the incomprehensible Greatness and Holiness of God can ever be satisfied that God punishes mens temporary sinning with Eternal Punishment 'T is not talking of a common love of God to mankind and talking of Universal Redemption when in the Conclusion God takes Vengeance for ever upon so many of mankind for their Sin and Folly That will really take off men from quarrelling with God But the humble acknowledgment of his absolute Lordship over the Works of his Hands and that he is infinitely Just and Righteous in all that he doth tho' we poor Dust and Ashes cannot comprehend it This must silence Man This Author sets down a Scripture in the Title Page Psalm 64.7 8 9. But God shall shoot at them with an Arrow suddenly shall they be wounded so they shall make their own Tongue to fall

Thess 1.9 Then this Author goes on Sir shew me if you can where the Scripture saith that Christ died but for some only not for all I answer this is but strife of words Christ did not die only for some of the Elect but for all the Elect but he died not for all Adam's Posterity as hath been sufficiently demonstrated He goes on and saith to this person Seeing you think that Christ died but for some shew me sufficient testimony from the Scripture that he died for your self I pray what Call hath this Author to put this Person upon declaring to him sufficient Testimony that Christ died for him and what is this to the purpose if this person had not yet attained what Paul saith Gal. 2.20 He loved me and gave himself for me But I hope this Person hath a comfortable assurance that Christ died for him Christ died for all Believers and if he finds upon Self-examination that he is in the Faith and Christ lives in him he may conclude that Christ died for him But why he should give this Author sufficient Testimony of his Faith I know not It may be some will say this is but a hectoring boysterous way of dealing The Author concludes his Letter saying to this Person Name one in this great City for whom Christ died not What is this to the purpose to prove Universal Redemption Tho' Christ did not die for all Adam's Posterity and tho' there be in this City many ignorant and prophane People yet it would be presumption to say of any particular person in this City yea in the whole World that Christ did not die for that Person except one knew that the Person had committed the sin against the Holy Ghost which is a sin which few are guilty of and for such we are not to pray for them 1 John 5.16 but for any other particular person tho' for the present he be never so ignorant of God and abound in Transgressions who can say but that this person may be one of those that God hath ordained to Eternal Life and that Christ hath died for and therefore we are to exhort them to Repentance and pray for them and if it be so that they be such as God hath chosen to Salvation and that Christ hath dyed for them the Lord will at one time or other before they dye turn them from Darkness unto Light Deliver them from the Power of Darkness and Translate them into the Kingdom of his dear Son CHAP. III. Ten Arguments from the Scripture to prove that those that Christ dyed for shall all of them be called justified and glorified in Heaven I have said enough already I hope to clear those Scriptures that this Author brings for Universal Redemption Now through the Lords Assistance I shall shew that though Arminians make such a poor low common thing of the precious Blood of Jesus Christ who was God as well as Man That they say that Men may be Damn'd in Hell for ever notwithstanding Christ dyed for them I shall prove the contrary by many Scriptures 1. John 10.15 16. I lay down my Life for the Sheep and other Sheep I have which are not of this Fold Them also I must bring and they shall hear my Voice and there shall be one Fold and one Shepherd 1. Observe that there are some that are called Christs Sheep before their Conversion given to Christ that he should be the Shepherd and Bishop of their Souls in the appointed time to bring them to Grace and Glory 2. These Sheep are the Elect both of Jews and Gentiles some are of the Fold of the Jews some of the Fold of the Gentiles 3. That Christ laid down his Life for these Sheep 4. That Christ hath undertaken to bring in and Convert those Sheep that he laid down his Life for that not one of them be missing and Perish Therefore Christ puts a must upon it I must bring as if he had said because of my engaging to the Father in the Covenant of Redemption to bring them to Grace and Glory as also because of my own free and everlasting love to them I must bring them home Ay but some might say True Christ may use some means outward and inward to bring in these Sheep that he dyed for but peradventure they will stop the Ear and their wills be rebellious Ay but saith Christ they shall hear my Voice that is they shall certainly and infallibly be Converted 2. Rom. 5.10 For if when we were Enemies we were reconciled to God by the Death of his Son much more being reconciled we shall be saved by his Life 1. Observe that those that Christ dyed for he Reconciled them to God made Satisfaction and Reconciliation for all their Sins Christ dying was no small matter It was not a thing of small Power and Vertue it was not to make God meerly Reconcileable but it was a perfect and eternal Reconciliation Though the benefit of his Reconciliation is given out in a certain order and manifested by degrees as seemed good to the Counsel of Gods Will yet Christ did all by way of Merit and satisfaction for sin when he dyed upon the Cross 2. Observe that such a Reconciliation being made by the Death of Christ the Apostle saith how much more shall we be saved by his Life That is by his Resurrection and Ascension and Intercession for them for whom he dyed Those for whom Christ dyed for them he rose again Rom. 4. and last v. Who was delivered for our offences and was raised again for our Justification Christ as the Head and Surety for those for whom he dyed was discharged of the debt of their sins by his Resurrection So that as he dyeth no more death hath no more Dominion over him So all that he dyed and rose again for shall be brought into such a state by Vertue of his Death and Resurrection that death shall not have Dominion over them Christ also ascended into Heaven as a publick person and Representative of those for whom he dyed For all them whose high priest he was Heb. 6.20 Whither the forerunner is for us entred even Jesus made a high Priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec for them he ever liveth to make Intercession until they be all brought to Glory he presents his Merits his Blood his Satisfaction in the Holy of Holies for them So that unless Men will say that Christ did not rise again and ascend into Heaven and doth not ever live to make intercession it must needs be that all that he dyed for shall be eternally saved For saith the Apostle if we were Reconciled to God by the Death of his Son how much more being Reconciled shall we be saved by his Life If there were such Merit in his Death as to Reconcile us to God Then Christ rising again ascending into Heaven and ever living to make Intercession for those for whom he dyed they shall all be certainly and infallibly