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A93642 Groanes for liberty· Presented from the Presbyterian (formerly non-conforming) brethren, reputed the ablest and most learned among them, in some treatises called Smectymnuus, to the high and Honorable Court of Parliament in the yeare 1641, by reason of the prelates tyranny. Now awakened and presented to themselves in the behalf of their now non-conforming brethren. With a beam of light, discovering a way to peace. Also some quæres for the better understanding of Mr Edwards last book called Gangræna. With a parallel betweene the prelacy and presbytery. / By Iohn Saltmarsh preacher of the Gospel. Saltmarsh, John, d. 1647.; Smectymnuus. 1646 (1646) Wing S489; Thomason E327_20; ESTC R200661 20,628 47

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am sure above the crime of the Remonstrant Non-conforming Brethren who are unsetled in points of a meane difference which there usual language knowes by no better terme then Schimaticks and factious yet even such as have fallen under the heaviest censures of Excommunication deprivation suspension c. Quaere 1. Why was it such a crime to count any Schismaticks and factious under Prelacy and why is it now under Presbytery matter of just report against others 2. If Excommunications Deprivations suspensions c. were esteemed so burdensome and cruell then why are Fines Penalties and Imprisonments so much preached for now why doe not the Brethren of the Presbyteriall way think it as hard for the Magistrates to afflict their Brethren as they thought it hard in the Prelates to afflict themselves 26 No Presbyters to be Ambitious Neither in any of his writings the least intimation of superiority of one Presbyter over another save only where he names Diotrephes as one ambitiously affecting such Supremacy Quaere If none but such as Diotrephes is observed in Scripture for affecting Supremacy and Superioricy and if one Presbyter cannot be found affecting place above other Presbyters in opposition to Bishops then how is it cleared that a Presbytery may be supream to a whole Church or Congregation and that it is not as much Superiority for some few Presbyters to affect being above many Saints together in one Church as for one in name or office as a Bishop to affect place above another in name or office as a Presbyter and so Episcopacy be as warrantable as Presbytery and both alike unwarrantable A BEAM of LIGHT TO Discover a way to the peace both of CHURCH and STATE By way of Considerations Consid. 1. LEt it first be considered where the great obstructions lie against Liberty or Teleration of Brethren of severall wayes and if it may not be found to be in these things 1 A taking the whole kingdom of England for the Church of England and so setting up the Nationall Magistracy of Israel in the Nation now as it was then which how it may be warranted would be well considered 2 A jealousie how to preserve the present Ecclesiasticall Interest without the choicest power of the Magistrate to help it which if well observed makes it appeare to bee lesse of God and more of man 3 An interpretation of these Gospell Scriptures which concern Magistracy Rom. 13. 4. 1 Tim. 2. 2. 1 Pet. 2. 13 14. which I humbly conceive to be so farre as concerns any good or evill either of the Law of Nature or Nations into a good or evill purely spirituall and of meere revelation in the Gospel as things of Gospell light and mystery and notions of Heresy and Schism are this latitude of Interpretation of the generall Rules in the Gospell concerning Magistracy into all particulars of Truth and Heresie is of high consideration Consid. 2. Let it be considered how the kingdom of England may be called the Church taking in all the Northern parts the Western parts the whole Nation generally to the very walls of London with Mr Marshalls Testimony that many thousands nay thousands of thousands which accordingly reckoned takes up almost the greatest part of the Kingdom not knowing their right hand from their left in the very principles of the doctrine of Christ And saith Mr Marshall no Land can be esteemed Christs Kingdome where the preaching of the word is not established is any Countrey esteemed a part of a Princes dominion that is not ruled by his lawes Consid. 3. Let it be considered then seeing the kingdome of England is not a Church but in the generall a Nation baptized into they know not what at first and beleeving generally they knew not in whom ever since as Mr Marshall whether there may not be a free peaceable cohabitation of the people together viz. of those called Presbyteriall Independent Anabaptists enjoying their severall wayes of practice in things of outward cognizance and order as Baptism Church Order c. in all peaceable demeanure and godlinesse as well in this sp●rituall variety as so many Corporations Counties Divisions Armies and severall Companies in that their civill variety and yet in all a civill comelinesse peace and unity Consid. 4. Let it be considered whether the Civill power in such a Gospell mystery as Presbytery is and the way of Baptism is and the way of Independency is may not with more lawfulnesse lesse hazard of sinne and safety keep off or suspend his engagements from all sides seeing there lies Gospell strength and Arguments on all sides and walk only according to those generall Rules the Gospell hath layd him down in Rom. 13. 4. 1 Tim. 2. 2. 1 Pet. 2. 13 14 not daring to draw himselfe to revenge any misbeleefe of particular Scripture mysteries forcing either side either for Presbytery Inde endency or Baptism which the Gospell hath no where warranted him in speciall or in any clear consequence to do but such as the present prevayling Brethren draw out from the Iudiciall Law of Moses to help and from these generall Gospell Rules which can bring forth but an opinionative Iustice as their Arguments an opinionative Truth or Presbytery and whether the Magistrate ought not to demand a more clear and equitable Rule in things of Spirituall cognizance I humbly present to be considered Whether there ought not to bee a certaine Rule for a certaine Iustice so if there should ever bee a proceeding to Fines Imprisonment Banishment the Divines can administer no more certain grounds for the Magistrates conscience then such as they have for their own which are but probable controvertible doubtfull as the Arguments on all sides will make appear Consid. 5. Let it be considered whether it hath not been one of the Nationall sinnes viz. Making Lawes against all other Forms but what it did establish it selfe Nationally by which experience hath told us how Gospell Truths have been kept out whole Generations Popish States kept out Protestantism and Prelacy kept out Presbytery and whether Presbytery proceeding on the same ground is not in the same danger of sin and of keeping out other Truthes and whether upon this ground any Gospell Revelation or Light of which there shall bee an Encreasing every day as Mr Case himselfe preached ever shall come into this Nation but of the Nationall size and temper and we know that is not often the Gospell way the Lord hath chosen the weak things and base things 6. Consideration Let it be considered whether part of the great Mystery of Iniquity be not that of drawing in the strength of the Nations the Princes of the earth to support the Ecclesiasticall or Church glory and let this be sadly considered did not Popery get in the Kingdoms of the world to support it selfe ●id not Prelacy stand by the same power Doth not Presbytery hold it selfe by the same strength of Magistrates Are not the same Iron rods and scourges of steel
be a friend be such an enemy to the State as to cut off like Nero the Tyrants wish so many thousand of their faithfull servants at a blow in such a juncture of time when they need so many Ought ye to work off so many choyce ones from this Cause till you have as many more of your way for their places and till as many Battels yeares experiments prove them as gloriously faithfull as these are is this faire dealing with the State You have brought forth before Israel and the Sunne many pretended sinnes and crimes of your Brethren Suppose they should write by your copy and bring forth the Assembly sins the crimes of all those of your way of all the Divines and others that you take in and rake back into the ashes of their unregenerate condition keep Almanacks for the yeares and dayes of their faylings watch their haltings in all things they say or do tell all the Stories of them they heare what would the next generation think of their Book and yours At this rate of writing they would not read one honest man of all their forefathers yet this is your course and method I have done for this time and I hope all that are not enchanted with the Gorgons head of Hereticks and Schismaticks and Church of England as your own Smectymnians say will read and judge I had said more to ye had you printed us more Reason and lesse Reviling and something more then Stories and Winter Tales And for our Licenser whom you so rayl at he is so much a friend to all the world of Beleevers as to give them the Scripture liberty of proving and trying all things and not to silence the Presse as some would and as the Prelates did silence the Pulpit And now let any age weighing all the differences excepting the Blasphemies c. and the nature of them nakedly without aggravations and fallacy of words bring forth a Book printed in such Letters of Blood as this Gangrena binde up all the Oxford Aulicusses the Mountagues the Pocklingtons and see if this Gangrena do not exceed them all this is Persecution and Prelacy sublimate And yet for all this I would not have the Civill power drawn against you if we had all the Magistrates on our side but rather that you may in the flowings of a more hevenly spirit with your head of waters and your eyes a fountain of teares write against your own Book and let the world see that Men in these times are not Infallible as you all conclude but may mistake their Brethren for Enemies some Truths for Errours and Zeal for Persecution as the very Iewes did when they crucified Christ as they thought for Blasphemy And some shall kill ye sayth Christ and think they do God good service A Parallel between the Prelacy and the Presbytery Quaere VVHether if we should reply to Mr Edwards in his own words and as Solomon saith answer him according to his c. we might not compare things as followeth and trace up their proceedings into the very mystery of Prelacy 1. The Prelates were ordained Ministers by the Bishops Quere Whether may it not be said the Divines that sit now are Ordained by the same power of Bishops to be Ministers and so by that power ordaine others 2. The Prelates when they had made Canons procured the power of the State to impose them upon all the Kingdome Quaere Whether may it not said the Divines now get the same power to what they decree and accordingly impose them upon the Kingdom 3. The Prelates composed one great Service-Book for direction to uniformity of worship according as they had ordered under penalties yet without the least word of Scripture to prove the truth of any thing in it Quaere Whether may it not be said Divines have composed one great book accordingly now for the like uniformity viz. the Directory to be observed under fines and penalties and yet without the least word or title of Scripture to prove the truth of any thing in it 4. The Prelates ordered that from that Book Prayers should be read to the people Quaere Whether may it not be said the Divines now have not east the Prayers of the Spirit into such Formes and Methods that a little invention will make them as stinted currant and legible Formes as before and accordingly read in divers places 5. The Prelates counted all that would not conforme to them Schismaticall and Hereticall Quaere Whether may it not be said the Divines now count not all so that will not be uniforme with them 6. The Prelates forbade all to Preach and Print that did not Preach and Print for their way of worship and Government Quaere Whether may it not be said the Divines now would not have all hindred from Pulpit and Presse that will not be of way of Worship and Government with them 7. The Prelates possessed themselves of the States power and favour Quere Whether may it not be said the Divines now wholly labour after the same interest both in Parliament and other Counsels 8. The Prelates had their Licensers to stop all that write against their power and pompe Quaere Whether may it not be said the Divines now labour to engrosse the power of licensing only to themselves 9. The Prelates had for part of their Government Fines Pillories Whips Imprisonment Quaere Whether may it not be said the Divines now have those very things for part of theirs 10. The Prelates had Parishes for their Churches and Tythes for their maintenance Quere Whether may it not be said the Divines now have the same Parishes now for Churches the same Tithes for maintenance 11. The Prelates called all other meetings but their Parish-meetings Conventicles Quere Whether may it not be said the Divines now call the Churches and people that meet now together apart from them Conventicles as formerly 12. The Prelates called the Non-conformists factious troublers of the State Quere Whether may it not be said the Divines now do accordingly call any that write or oppose their Presbytery factious and State-troublers 13. The Prelates ever accused their Non-conforming Brethren to the King and Councell Quere Whether may it not be said the Divines now accordingly accuse their Non-conforming Brethren to the Parliament and other Councels 14. The Prelates had a designe to send all their Non-conforming brethren to strange Kingdomes as New England Quere Whether may it not be said the Divines now endeavour to send their Non-conforming Brethren to other places out of the Kingdome 15. The Prelates ingrossed all the Preaching and preferring Divines to all places of honour and popularity in the Kingdom to themselves Quere Whether may it not be said the Divines now do accordingly preferre to all places of publique trust honour and employment as Vniversities Navy Armies Garrison-Towns Counties Cities c 16. The Prelates would not suffer men whom they called Lay-men to speak of the Scriptures Quere Whether may it not be