him in his Chamber on January 2. Item XIV That in the said Letters of December the 26th it was specified that Richard Nicholas Blundell was constituted by Pattent from the Provincial to be Ordinary at Newgate to go and visit the Condemned Prisoners and to reduce them to the Catholick Faith and Religion and to Catechize some Youth in the City of London and every day in the week he hath his several places where he Teacheth the Youth Treasonable and Mutinous Doctrines against the Interest and Person of His Sacred Majesty and giveth certain summs of mony to their Parents if poor to incourage them to send their Children to be thus instructed which passage was contained in the aforesaid Letters and afterwards practised in London ITEM XV. That another Packet came to Richard Ashby to Saint Omers from Thomas White John Keines and others of the Society of Jesus in London in which Letters from them and others were inclosed Letters to Father Thomas Stapleton Procurator at Brussels to perswade the Father Confessor of Duke de Villa Hermosa to inform that his Majesty of Great Britain did not intend to assist his Majesty of Spain but to stand a looker on till he was ruined by the French King which Letter being not sealed was seen and heard read by Richard Ashby then Rector of Saint Omers in which it was further ordered that if the said Father Confessor should not be ready to comply with the said Stapleton that messengers should be forthwith sent to Father Swiman at Madrid to inform his Majesty of Spain of the said concern and to make the same relation of the business to the Arch-Bishop of Tuam in the Kingdome of Ireland now at the Court at Madrid that he the said Swiman and he the said Arch-Bishop might jointly give an account to the King of Spain of the motion made or to be made to the said Father Confessor of Duke de Villa Hermosa and also to advise the Spanish King to seize the estates of the English merchants in the several Factories in his Dominions for that they had endeavoured to transport their Estates and did transport them to England which would tend highly to the prejudice of the Kingdome of Spain and for the confirmation thereof they procured Letters from one Fonseca sometimes an Agent in London to attest the same to which the said Fonseca willingly condescended and sent his Letter to Saint Omers to be sent to the Court of Spain that the Fathers might give their approbation which Letter was long and large attestations therein made against the merchants resident in their several Factories concerning the matter of Fact before-mentioned and also other Letters to Daniel Armstrong at Valledolid and to John Cross at Madrid in the which they were ordered to confirm this affirmation made or to be made by the Fathers in England and of the English Seminary at Saint Omers and of the said Stappleton together with that of the said Fonseca the abovementioned Spanish Agent who now liveth at Bruges in Flanders All which Letters bore date the first or second of January 1678. Stilo Novo and all of them the Deponent saw at Saint Omers and in the two Letters to those two Fathers in Spain viz. Daniel Armstrong and John Cross was contained an especial order that the former if he could not go to Madrid should send his attestations to Don Juan of Austria for the carrying on of which two hundred pounds sterling was transmitted by bills of Exchange to the said father Swiman and the said English Fathers ITEM XVI That when the Letters came from England about the business afore-mentioned to Saint Omers Edward Nevil and Thomas Fermor did say that they would not let this black Bastard go to his grave in peace meaning the King of England for that he had cheated them so often and that now they were resolved to be served so no more But the Deponent standing by said what if the Duke should prove slippery They both replyed his pasport was ready when ever he should appear to fail them These words were heard by the Deponent on the third of January in the afternoon in the Library of the Jesuits of Saint Omers ITEM XVII That on the fourth of January 1678. Stylo novo Letters were sent by Richard Ashby Edward Hall Edward Nevil Charles Peters Michael Constable William Busby James Janon and Thomas Fermor Jesuits of the English Seminary at Saint Omers as also Francis Williams Rector of Watton and Master of the Novices there Sir John Warner Baronet alias Clare Father Sanches alias Ditchling to the Father Confessor of the Emperours Majesty to advise the Emperours Majesty that his Majesty of Great Brittain had treacherously ploted the ruine of the Confederates especially of the German Empire and of his Catholick Princes under him and had under hand stirred up the Hungarian Rebels against his Imperial Majesty and found them money to go on with their rebellion and that his design was not to keep any alliance with his Imperial Majesty but onely in shew that he might advance his Nephew the Prince of Orange and make him absolute and therefore prayed that the States of Holland might be acquainted with it Which Letter was seen and perused by the Deponent it being written in Latine all which Letters were sent away by a Lay-Brother that was a Dutch-man and when these Letters were sending away one of the Lay-brothers whose name was George did say That the Prince of Orange was more fit to rob an Orchard than to be General of an Army ITEM XVIII That Letters bearing date January the first 1678. Spylo novo arrived at Saint Omers January the twentieth from Talbot Arch-bishop of Dublin wherein it was expressed that the Fathers of the Society in Ireland were very vigilant to prepare the people to arise for the defence of their Liberty and Religion and to recover their Estates and that if the Parliament that was to fit in England should joyn with the King in declaring War against France that a place should be open to receive the French Kings Army in Ireland when his most Christian Majesty should think fit to land one there And in the Letter head advised the Fathers of Saint Omers to advertise Father Leshee of the same and other Jesuits that had an interest in the French King And that his Majesty of Great Brittain was brought to that pass that if any Male content amongst them should not prove true to their design his Majestie would never give ear to their information and therefore prayed them to be dilligent for now was the time or never which Letter the Deponent saw and read and in order to the Fathers compliance with the Letter of the said Arch Bishop they dispatched away Letters to Father Leshee to Paris and appointed Edward Nevil and William Busby to carry and deliver them to the said Leshee which Letters were answered with all speed by the aforesaid messengers Jesuits as above the one of
ubique never long in one place LXIII Item That on Wednesday twenty first of August a Consult was held by the Jesuits then in London with certain Benedictine Monkes about three of the Clock in the afternoon concerning a Pacquet that came from Talbot Archbishop of Dublin to the fathers of the Society In which they were given to understand that Four Irish Jesuits had undertaken the death of the Duke of Ormond and that upon his death the Irish were ready to rise In this Letter he told them that a Legate was arrived in Ireland and had asserted the Popes right in that Kingdom and that the Kings of England being no longer Catholiques they did cease from being concerned there it being given to them during the good pleasure of his Holiness and therefore did incourage the said Arch-Bishop to contrive and use all means for the recovery of the said Kingdom out of the hands of the English And in the said Letter it was mentioned That if opportunity did not permit the said Jesuits to do their business that then they should send one Doctor Fogarthy now lodging at Mrs. Simmonds the Widow of one Simmonds an Apothecary in Drury-Lane and that he and the Fathers in Ireland together with the said Fogarthy would find out an expedient way for the death of the said Duke And furthermore he did specify that they had procured several Irish to be made Commission-Officers in the Garrisons in Ireland and that he and the rest had dispenced with them to take the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy And that the Irish who had gotten Commissions by means of the Arch-Bishop had promised to betray their interest into their hands when the business should be ripe and desired the Fathers to be as diligent in England as he and the rest of the Clergy were in Ireland which Letter John Keines did shew the Deponent and was read by the Deponent And Kenies and Blundel gave him an account of the Consult and the said Fogarthy did himself tell the Deponent the same and on the said Twenty first of August did say That he had a great interest in the Court of Ireland LXIV Item That the said Fogarthy is a main Agent in this Hellish-Plot and hath promised That if this Bishop Talbot will make use of him he will do all the service he can which the Deponent is ready to justify to the face of the said Fogarthy who did tell the Deponent that he and Coleman were in the Consult when Wakeman was contracted withal in order to Poyson the KING and said That if he had the interest in the KING as Wakeman had he would have undertaken it himself And all this was told the Deponent on the Twenty first of August in die Chamber of the said Fogarthy And furthermore the said Fogarthy then and there did tell the Deponent That he had hired Four Irish Russians whose Names he did neither tell the Consulters that met on the Twenty first of August nor the Deponent and these Irish Russians were to mind the KING's Postures at Windsor But the Deponent telling the said Fogarthy that he heard the KING was going to Portsmouth he was wonderfully troubled at it and said It did very much impede their Design and nothing would be Attempted so long as he was absent from Windsor LXV Item That the Lord Embassador Sr. William Godolphin at the Court of Spain holdeth great Correspondence with Hierom Swiman the Irish-Jesuit who as beforementioned was Procurator for the Jesuits of the Kingdom of England and Ireland and with the Irish Arch-Bishop of Tuam now at Madrid and is a friend in this business as the said Swiman did inform the Society in one of July the thirtyeth New-style and likewise in one to the Deponent wherein he did specify that Sir William was as industrious as any Man could be to answer the expectation of the Society and that he had but one Protestant-servant then in his House viz. the Cook and the Parson when there made up a goodly Couple And the Deponent knows that Godolphin is a Papist and hath perverted a Kinsman of his own and the Deponent knoweth that the said Embassador is very familier to the said persons the Irish Jesuit at Madrid and the Irish-Arch-Bishop of Tuam And the Deponent doth verily believe that Mr. Hodges sometimes Chaplain to the said Lord Embassador can if required Testify as much and the Deponent doth furthey say That when he was at Madrid the said Chaplain of the Embassador left the employ because of the Embassador's being a Papist and the Deponent hath seen the said Embassador at Mass and he hath a Jesuit that comes to his House who hath Read both Philosophy and Divinity to the said Embassador of which the Deponent was personally informed by the said Hierome Swiman an Irish Jesuit and by the said Irish Arch-Bishop when at Madrid but the Letters of which the Deponent speaks he saw and Read them at Mrs. Saunders House in Wild street the Twenty second of August LXVI Item That on the 22th of August Money was sent from the Society by a Servant of theirs to supply the Expences of the four Irish Russians above-mentioned who were gotten to Windsor on the 21th at night and the sum so sent was Eighty pound which the Deponent saw told And they were written to and informed that if more were wanting they should have it And they were bidden not to be frequent in one anothers Company and always to profess but small Acquaintance one with another Which Order and Money was dispatcht away by Harcourt Rector of London in the name of the Provincial and whole Society LXVII Item That the Deponent went to the Chamber of the said John Fenwick who told him that he was to go to St. Omers with some Students thither about ten or eleven as near as the Deponent can remember and the said Fenwick was to attend the Provincial and was to return as he said within tenor twelve days together with Mico and the rest And whilst the Deponent was with the said Fenwick a Messenger came in viz. John Grove with order from Harcourt Rector of London John Keines Richard Blundell Mr. Jennison Mr. Wright Basill Langworth and four other Jesuits that lay at Somerset house to pray the Provincial that he would write to Leshee the French King 's Confessarius and give him to understand how well the business in Ireland stood and that in his Letters to Leshee he should pray him to certifie the French King thereof The Deponent asked Grove where those Fathers were met Who said they met again at Mrs. Sanders house And the Deponent after he had read the Order or Memorial as indeed the Title was and saw their Names about two in the Afternoon went to the house of Mrs. Sanders where the Deponent saw those Fathers who told him of the said Order and after a short stay took his leave of them and by them was ordered to meet them at four
Print the same to my great wrong and detriment It was presented to His Majesty the Thirteenth of August last by the means and introduction of that worthy and honest Gentleman Mr. Christopher Kirkby as likewise sworn upon Oath on the sixth of September following before Sir Edmondbury Godfrey by my self and the Twenty eighth of the same Month before the Lords and others of His Majesties most Honourable Privy Council and the proceedings afterwards made upon the same being sufficiently known I shall not trouble thee with at present but leave the whole to thy Candid consideration taking my leave of thee at present and will ever appear April the 15th 1679. Thy hearty Well-wisher and Servant in Jesus Christ TITVS OATES A True and Exact Narrative OF THE Horrid Plot and Conspiracy OF THE POPISH PARTY Against the LIFE of His Sacred Majesty THE GOVERNMENT AND THE Protestant Religion Imprimis RIchard Strange Provincial John Keins Basil Langworth John Fenwick and Mr. Harcourt Jesuits did write a Treasonable Letter to one Father Suiman an Irish Jesuit at Madrid in the Kingdom of Spain in which was contained their Plotting and Contriving a Rebellion in Scotland of the Presbyterians against the Episcopal Government In order to which they had employed one Matthew Wright and William Morgan and one Mr. Ireland to go and Preach under the notion of Presbyterians and give the disaffected Scots a true understanding of their sad state and condition in which they were by reason of the Episcopal Tyranny exercised over them and withall to tell them they had now a fair opportunity to vindicate their Liberty and Religion and that it could be done by no other way but by the Sword and that now the King was so addicted to his pleasures that he would and could take but little care in that concern And in the said Letter it was expressed that they had gotten an interest in His Royal Highness but they would deal with him as they thought fit and that they were resolved to use all means to weaken the King of England's Interest by informing his friends of his own intent to betray them into the hands of a Forein Power to wit to send them to fall by the Sword in the French King's Wars against the Confederate Princes which Letter bore date of April 19th Old Style 1677. and 29th New Style Item II. That the persons abovementioned gave the Deponent ten pounds to carry the said Letters to the said Father Suiman into the Kingdom of Spain to Madrid the said Father Suiman being their Procurator general for the Kingdom of England and Ireland and in order to which message the Deponent embarked himself in the Ship called the Biscay Merchant whereof Luke Roch was then Master to go for Bilbao and there took Mules for Valladolyd but staving a day at Burgos in Spain the Deponent broke up the said Letters and found these Contents in the same Item III. That they of the Society of Jesus in the English Seminary at St. Omers sent a mission of twelve Students into the Kingdom of Spain viz. eight to Valladolyd and four to Madrid there being English Colledges in both places in order to study Philosophy and Divinity which Missioners were sent by Richard Ashby Richard Peters Nicholas Blundell and Charles Peters as appeared by the Patents of the several Missioners by which they had power to demand admission in the respective Colledges to which they were sent which Missioners were obliged by the Jesuits of the Colledges to renounce their Allegiance to His Majesty of Great Britain in the hearing of the Deponent and those of Valladolyd were taught by Daniel Armstrong Jesuit Minister of the English Colledge at Valladolyd that the said Oath of Allegiance is Heretical Antichristian and Devilish and that Charles Stuart the King of England is no lawful King but comes of a spurious Race and that his Father was a Black Scotch-man and not King Charles the first this was delivered in a Sermon Septemb. 29. 1677. to the Students there which Sermon the Deponent did hear and in this Sermon the said Daniel Armstrong in plain words did say that the King of England was a Bastard now this Daniel Armstrong goeth in Spain by the name of Joseph Mundford in Spanish P. Joseph Montefortio Item IV. That the said Daniel Armstrong alias Joseph Mundford did bring Letters from St. Omers to the English Colledge at Valladolyd to the Fathers of that Colledge written in Latine they being Spaniards in which it was expressed and related from the Fathers of St. Omers that the Fathers of the Society in London had procured one Father Beddingfield to be Confessor to His Royal Highness but if they law His Royal Highness did not answer their expectations they would dispose of him as they did intend to dispose of his Brother the King which they hoped to effect within a year Which Letters bore date June the 10th 1677. and subscribed by Richard Ashby alias Thimbleby Rector of the English Seminary of the Society of Jesus at St. Omers Richard Peters Minister Edward Nevill Prefect of the Studies Charles Peters Prefect of the Sodality Thomas Fermor Prefect of Manners Which Letters the Deponent saw and read in the month of September at Valladolyd in the Kingdom of Spain Item V. That Father Suiman above-mentioned wrote to the English Colledge to the Fathers there that the King of England was poisoned to the great joy of the English Fathers and that they would serve King James so if he did not give them good assusurance of bringing in of the Catholick Religion and of rooting out Protestant Religion this Letter bore date July the first 1677. and was seen and read by the Deponent at Valladolyd in the month of July near the latter end Item VI. That one Father John Blake alias Cross who went with the four Students to Madrid did bring Letters from Richard Strange Provincial of the Jesuits and one Father Gray a Jesuit and John Keines to Father Suiman above-mentioned in which was specified that all diligence was used by the said Richard Strange Father Gray and John Keines to procure some persons to dispatch the King and to put a period to his daies which Letter bore date June the 10th 1677. Stylo novo And now the Deponent being sent to Madrid in the month of August read it in Father Suiman's Chamber he shewing it also at the same time to James Archbishop of Tuam in the Kingdom of Ireland Item VII That the said Father Suiman received another Letter bearing date July the 20th 1677. Stylo novo from Richard Strange Father Gray John Keines Basil Langworth John Fenwick Father Ireland and Father Harcourt in which they did manifest that they were very sorry for informing him that he might assure himself that the business was done their man William being faint-hearted could not then do it though he had fifteen hundred pounds promised him for his pains of which Letters the English Missionaries were one by one informed
them being the Prefect of Studies and the other Procurator for the Seminary and by them wrote Letters to Thomas White Provincial and to the Rector of Saint Omers viz. Richard Ashby Of that to the Provincial the Deponent can give no account but of that to Ashby the Deponent saith that there was in it expressed that the Father General of the Society of Jesus would contribute eight hundred thousand Crowns to be paid in the moneth of June next ensuing and that his Holinesse the Pope would not be wanting to supply them when they had made some progresse in that glorious attempt ITEM XIX That another Packet arrived at Saint Omers directed to Richard Ashby Rector of the English Seminary there The Date of which is not well remembred by the Deponent but as near as he doth remember it was about the beginning of the Parliament for there came the Speeches of the King and Lord Chancellour and the Votes of the Parliament which were put into ridiculous phrases in contempt of the King and both Houses of Parliament for the Fathers and Scholers to laugh at and then translated into the French Tongue and presented to the Governor of Saint Omers who sendeth them to the French King his Master and in the Packet was contained an account of the attempt of one Pickering a lay Brother that waits upon the Jesuits lying at Somerset house to shoot the King as he was was walking in Saint James park when he was at some distance from his Nobles and Attendants but the Flint of his Pistol being somewhat loose he did defer the action till another opportunity and if he had done it and had suffered he should have had thirty thousand Masses said for the health of his soul Which Letters were signed by Thomas White alias Whitebread Provincial which Letters when read the Fathers in the English Seminary were in great trouble for the negligence of the said Pickering and the Deponent saw and read them in the latter part of January and the Votes put into such mock Phrases as also the Speeches of the King and Lord Chancellor in the moneth of February ITEM XX. That the Deponent went on the nine and twentieth of January to know of his Confessarius whether he might keep the thirtieth of January as a fast the Confessor replyed that the account with them was on the ninth of February because the account of England did differ from the account on that side the Water The Deponent asked him whether then he might keep the ninth of February as a day of Fasting The Confessor asked him why The Deponent replyed because of the Martyrdome of the late King the Confessarius answered that the late King was no Martyr but an Heretick and withal added that he was none of King James Son but a Bastard begotten upon the body of Anne of Denmark by her Taylor This Confessarius is a Jesuit and his name Charles Peters Prefect of the Sodality ITEM XXI That Letters bearing date February the first Stylo novo from Thomas Whitebread John Keines John Fenwick Father Ireland and Father Micho to Richard Ashby Rector of Saint Omers then ill of the Gout and to the English Fathers there did let them understand that they had sent William Morgan into Ireland to see how affairs stood in that Kingdome and expected his return by the end of March next and that he set out the six and twentieth of January and that they had given him instructions to order the affairs in hand and to encourage the Irish Natives to defend their Religion and Liberty And his Companion was one Father Lovel who was to go into the North of Ireland to see the Fathers of the Society there and carried two thousand pound to supply their present wants and to promise them four thousand pound more in case there should be any action ITEM XXII That another Pacquet came from Thomas White alias Whitebread Father Micho Father Ireland Father Harcourt and others of the Society in London bearing date February the seventh 1678. Stylo novo In which was contained an account of the Fathers progress in Berkshire Oxfordshire and Essex in perswading the Catholicks that were Votaries for the order of Saint Ignatius to contribute for the Irish rebellion and maintaining a Civil War in that Kingdome in case the French King should break with the King of England And also that they had received Letters from Scotland in which they were informed that the people would rise to oppose Duke Lauderdale and the Royal party in that Kingdome and also that they would endeavour by themselves their Agents and their Purse to provoke the Scots against the English and withal told the Fathers of Saint Omers to whom this Pacquet was directed and by whom it was received that they should be glad to effect such a design Which Pacquet the Deponent saw and read Letter by Letter ITEM XXIII That the Fathers of Saint Omers viz. Richard Ashby Rector Edward Hall Edward Nevill and others of the English Seminary did write to Thomas Whitebread and other Fathers in which was expressed that it was now apparent that the Catholick Religion was to be brought in the same way that they had used for the destruction of the Father of this King and as that could not be effected till much blood was spilt on both sides so this must be effected by effusion of blood And withal prayed them to prosecute their design in taking away the King and if his Royal Highness should not comply with them to dispatch him too for they did fear that never any of the Stuarts were men for the effecting of their ends and purposes And in this Letter instructions were given to the Fathers to feel how his Royal Highness stood affected Which Leter bore date February the tenth Stylo novo and was signed by the persons abovenamed in the presence of the Deponent who did compose these Letters for them according to direction given him by them Which Letter was to the Deponents knowledge carried into England by one Father Every who then went for England ITEM XXIV That an answer of the aforesaid Letters of February the tenth Stylo novo dated February the twentieth Old style came from Thomas White John Keines and Basil Langworth Richard Peters John Fenwick Father Ireland Father Harcourt Father Blundel Father Matthew VVright and Father Thomas VVright Father Jennison and one Father Simmons who some time belonged to Somerset House who also signed with the rest the said answer which told the Fathers at Saint Omers viz. Richard Ashby to whom the Letter was directed and the rest that they had found that although the Duke was a good Catholique yet he had a tender affection to the King and would scarcely be engaged in that concern and if they should once intimate their designs and purposes unto him they might not only be frustrated of their design but also might lose his favour Which Letter the Deponent saw and read in the month of February
Discourse about the Design of Killing the King did say that he was a Bastard and did endeavour to rule by the Sword Which Words the Deponent did hear and so did Keines and Fenwick who after one another replied the Bastard should not trouble the World long XLIX Item That on the Tenth of August styl vet the Deponent did meet with John Groves in Wild-street in the Afternoon and as near as the Deponent can remember it was about Five of the Clock and he having made several promises to the Deponent to give him an account of the Fire of Southwark in the Year 1676 the said Groves took the Deponent into Wild-house Garden and thus began He said that he had certain Fire-works made for that very purpose and he with Three Irishmen that were his Assistants went into the Borough and not finding an opportunity nor a fit place went to St. Margarets-Hill where they found an Oyl-shop which the said Groves bragg'd he sir'd The Deponent asked the said Groves how he came acquainted with the said Irishmen He said his acquaintance with them was not much but they were procured by Dr. Fogarthy the Irish Doctor for which the Society Richard Strange then Provincial gave them 1000 l. viz. 400 l. to Groves and 200 l. a piece to the Three Irishmen And the said Groves told the Deponent that the Society got at least 2000 l. by that fire which was also told the Deponent at another time by Richard Strange L. Item That on the Eleventh of August being Sunday the Deponent saw Letters from St. Omers bearing date August 17th New style written by Father Ireland in the Name of the Provincial Thomas White aliàs Whitebread to John Fenwick in which Letter by the Contents thereof there were Letters to John Keines Mr. Jennison and Mr. Blundel and others which the Deponent did not see but in this to John Fenwick it was specified what diligence was used for the destruction of the Duke of Ormond and for the procuring another demonstration of zeal for the promoting the Catholick Religion and Interest in that Kingdom and that which Arguments could not effect the Sword should to the great vexation of the Protestants there and he intimated the great joy that he had that there was yet great hopes that the disaffected Scots would not lay aside their endeavours for and after the Defence of their Liberty and Religion and that the Catholicks of Scotland had promised to use the utmost of their Interest to keep up the Commotions there and the said Father Ireland bad the said Fenwick exhort the Fathers to be earnest in their Designs for now was the time that the English Nation was to be reduced And furthermore ordered in the Name of the Provincial that Letters should be written to all the Society in England that they made it their business to encourage the Friends to braveness of mind for that God had hitherto given them such a hopeful Prospect of things and that no Opportunity on his part was or should be lost and that they in London if they thought it fit to communicate these things should have a care that they did it to no more than to one at a time lest they should be baffled in their Enterprise Which Letter when read by the Deponent the said Fenwick to whom the Letter was directed told the Deponent that it was his Duty to offer up a Mass or two that God would prosper those Holy Endeavours of the Fathers of the Society in promoting Catholick Religion and Faith and told him further That if he the Deponent lived till Christmas he should see a good Change of things either that Forty Eight should be taken from the World or the World especially the little he was concerned in should be taken from him And one that was a Catholick should play such a Game as never was plaid since the Conquest All which the said Fenwick told the Deponent in his Chamber and the Deponent asked the said Fenwick Who this Catholick was And Fenwick said it was the Duke of York And the Deponent saith the Ciphers 48 are put for the King LI. Item That on the said 11th of August in the Evening the Deponent went to the Lodgings of John Keines where he found another Jesuit with him whose Name the Deponent doth not remember in whose presence the said John Keines told the Deponent that the Provincial had taken great care of Keeping Alive the Difference betwixt the Disaffected Scots and Duke Lauderdale and that the Affairs in Ireland went on with great Expedition and that all Means were now used to beget a Difference betwixt the Dutch md the Prince of Orange and if that could be effected there was no question to be made but that the Protestant Interest would fail in Holland and that Forty Eight would not last long in England for it was high time to hinder Forty Nine from being effected That Barly-Broth-Trade should grow dead and Twelve would be Cut off and that Mum and Chocolate should be put down and the Order of Mag-Pies should be turned into their Primitive Institution and Habit. Now the Deponent saith that the words hinder Forty Nine from being effected is an Odd Expression that is amongst them used for the Cutting off the King that he may not live to be compleat Forty Nine Years of Age. And by Barley-Broth is meant the House of Commons which shall be turned out and Sit no more And by Mum and Chocolate is meant the Protestant Peers which if not destroyed shall never have any Vote in the House of Peers more after the Death of this King And by Mag-Pies they understand the Bishops whose Habit in Parliament is Black and White which shall be changed into Purple And by Twelve is meant the Duke of Monmouth Whilst the said Keines with the other Jesuit entertained the Deponent with these Treasonable Expressions Mr. Jonnison came to the said Keines and told him that he had lost a Letter which he had received from Tho-white the Provincial at St. Omers in a Walk he took to Islington and would give ten pounds to any friend that would give it him and was afraid that some Inconvenience might follow if found by some Heretick Which words put the said Keines into such a Consternation that he asked him Whether he had a mind to ruine them all But Jennison bad the said Keines be quiet for none could understand it which words the Deponent did likewise hear LII Item That Mr. Keines on the 12th of August determined to go for Windsor in order to settle some business there in and towards the dispatching Forty Eight which the Deponent saith is by them understood the King at Windsor if the King should go down thither And it was judged that the said Forty Eight would go to Windsor to make his abode there for some weeks but the said John Keines told the Deponent that he might chance to fall short of his Return again These words were spoken by John