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A10179 Certaine quæres propounded to the bowers at the name of Iesvs and to the patrons thereof. Wherein the authorities, and reasons alleadged by Bishop Andrewes and his followers, in defence of this ceremony, are briefly examined and refuted; the mistranslation of Phil. 2.10.11. cleared, and that tet, with others acquitted both from commanding or authorizing this novell ceremony, here gived to be unlawfull in sundry respects. Prynne, William, 1600-1669. 1636 (1636) STC 20456; ESTC S103164 42,726 52

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one being as we say a Christen name the other not properly a name but a Ti●le or purchased surname though this Bishop confounds them as one that of it is the sence and interpretation of the name Iesus M●●h 1.21 And themselves write and preach That men must not bow to the Letters sounde nor sillabes of the name Iesus But to the sence only which is Saviour to which at which by this their doctrine they should rather bow then to or at Iesus Whether Bishop Andrewes Reason That we must bow at the name of Iesus because it is the name of God and because Saviour As he saith is the cheefest name of God doth not more strongly infer that we should rather bow at the name of God and Saviour than at the name Iesus That we should bow at every name of God alike at the name of the Father Sonne holy Ghost Emmanuel Sonne of God Christ Iehovah Elohim Adonai which we commonly english the Lord being all reverend excellent great holy and dreadfull names aswell as at the name Iesus Since all of them are the names of God Whether this Proposition can be proved either by Scriptur or reason which they take as granted That we must bow the knee at the utteringe or hearinge of that name which is the name of God the Antecedent or proposition on which the Bishops first argument or reason is grounded which Proposition if it be true will overturne the bowing at this name Iesus which is not properly the name of God as of Christs Deity Because divers who were but meere men had it imposed on them before Christ And it was given to Christ principally not as he was God but man upon his Nativity and Circumcision Math. 1.21.25 Chap. 2.1 Luke 1.31 Chap. 2.31 Acts 4.27 Whether since Jesus is not cannot be a Iesus or Saviour to Angels in heaven Or Divels in hell Whose nature he tooke not on him Heb. 2.16 Nor yet to Reprobates in hell or earth who are not saved by him but yet a Lord supreame Iudge over them all Math. 28.18 Acts 10.36 Chap. 2.34 36. Luke 8.31 32 33. Heb. 1.6 Iude. 6. 2. Peter 2.4 Rom. 14.9 10 11 12. Revel 5.10 11 12 13 14. Chap. 7.9 10 11 12. Ephes. 1.20 21 22. His name Lord be not more likely to be the name above every name given to him upon his exaltation in which every knee shall bow intended in this Text then Iesus Lord being the name given to Christ upon his Exaltation as purchased by his death and Resurrection Rom. 14.6 8 9 10 11. Acts. 2.34 36. Chap 10.36 Math. 28.18 Ephes. 1.20 21 22. The name which every tounge shall confesse and call Christ by at last in the day of Iudgment As the very Text itselfe resolves in the words Every ●oung shall confesse that Iesus Christ is Lord Phil. 2.11 Yea as Christ himselfe determines Math. 7.21.22 Not every one that sayth unto me Lord Lord shall ent●r into the Kingdome of heaven c. Many will say unto me in that day Lord Lord Math. 25.31 37 44 45. When the Sonne of man shall come in his glory and all the holy Angels with him then shall he si●t upon the Throne of his glory c. Then shall the righteouse on the right hand answere him saying Lord c. Then shall the on the left hande answere him and say Lord when saw we thee an hungred c. The name that is used Isay. 45.23.24.25 Rom. 14.11 As I live sayth the Lord Not Iesus Every knee shall bow to me and every tounge shall confesse to God The originall Text to which that of the Philippians referrs The name by which Christ is called with reference to the day of Iudgment 2. Cor. 5.11 Rom. 14.11 Heb. 10.30 2. Petr. 3.8 9 10. Iude. 14. Revel 18.8 Chap. 19.1.6 Yea the name of his greatest dignity supremacy and terror Hee being called Kinge of Kinges and Lord of Lords in respect of dominion and Iudicature as by a name given him since his Exaltion 1. Tim. 6.14 15. Revel 17.14 Chap. 19.19 Whether this name Lord I say in all these respects Extending equally to all things in heaven earth and under the earth be not the name above every name here meant rather then his name Iesus He being in truth a Lord but yet noe Iesus no Saviour to Angels Divels and Reprobates who therefore cannot will not shall not bow unto him as their Iesus but only as their Lord Math. 7.21.22 c. 25.31.37.44 Isay. 45.23.24 Rom. 14.9.10.11 Whether this bowinge at the name of Iesus being a dutie of the Text only in time of divine Service or Sermons as the Patrons of it af●irme can be in any probability the bowinge intended in the Text Since there are noe Common Prayers or Sermons at all for certaine in hell or under the earth Noe nor yet in the greatest parte of the earth which neither knowe nor worship Iesus Nor yet in heaven where there are noe Sermons or common Prayers but only Blessings prayses and thanksgivings unto God and Christ. Now that bowing which this Text speakes of is such a bowinge as is common to all both in heaven earth and under the earth A bowinge which they may and shall all equally and jointly performe Therefore noe bowinge at the naminge of I●sus in the time of Divine Service and Sermons which they want and therefore cannot use Neither shall or can they ever actually performe How Iesus can be truly called a proper and peculiar name given to Christ alone when as we reade of divers others in Scripture that were called Iesus besides Christ. As Iesus the Sonne of Nunn And Iesus surnamed Iustus Acts. 7.45 Coll. 4.11 Heb. 4.8 Iesus the Sonne of Syrack Iesus the high Preist Bar Iesus● Acts. 13.6 c. Or how can Christ be truly stilled a common name Since none was ever called Christ substantively and abstractively or Messias but hee alone And none ever annoynted with the Deitie and holy Ghost and that to be both a Kinge Preist and Prophet to his Church but hee Psal. 45.7 Acts. 4.27 Chap. 10.38 Isai. 61.1 Whether this be not a notorious Paradoxe and falshood That that thinge that name which is proper is ever better then that which is common Since All accorde that the common good of the Republick and weale of the whole catholike Church is better and to bee preferred before any mans proper or private good and wellfare Since the Kinge himselfe with all the greate Officers of the State the Prelates and Ministers of the Church are better more honorable and more to be respected as they are publicke persons and Officers then as they are private men And since it will hereupon necessarily ensue That the very essence of the D●itie and name of God which are common to each of the Three persons in the Trinitie as we learne in Athanasius Creede should be worser then inferior to the personall subsistence
have proper to our Saviour Christ might easily have admonished them of the insufficiency of this Service And seeing the name of Iesus in the Sonne of Nun and in the High-Priest of that name of whom onely wee are assured that they were rightly thus called is the same with the name ascribed unto Christ wee see not by wha● reason honour may be withdrawne from the one which is given to the other especially considering they had not this title of Iesus in their owne right but in the right of Christ whose figures and lively representations they were And if others might withhould it yet you which give the same honour to the Image which you give to the thing it selfe cannot be conceived so to doe What will you answere to this that as you are in danger of superstition in the former point so in this you are charged with profanenesse who neither capp nor knee at the name of Jesus out of the thing when the name is the same and as well to be honoured without as within the Church Which Service you profane in the Crosse whereunto you doe honour or homage as well when it standeth in the feild as when it is erected in the Church or Chancells To your other reason that in reverence wee uncover our heades at the name of Princes Wee answere that if it were so the civill hono●r is not tyed to such strict lawes as is the Divine therefore there is greater freedome of choice in the one than in the other And it is knowne what is sayd of civill honour that it rather standeth on the wil and judgement of the Giver than of the Taker which is cleane contrary in the honour of God which dependeth on the pleasure and commandement of him that taketh it not of him that giveth it Thus farre M. Cartwright To him I shall annexe that late learned and reverend Divine Doctor Henry A●ray Provost of Queenes Colleidge in Oxford who upon this text of the Philippians writeth thus And hath given him a Name c. Where wee are not to understand that God gave unto Christ after his resurrection any new Name which hee had not before For as before so after and as after so before hee was and is called the Wisedome of God the Power of God the true Light of the world Faithfull and true Holy and just the Apostle and High-Priest of our profession a Priest for ever after the order of Melchisedech the Saviour of the World the Prince of Peace the Mediatour of the new covenant the Head of the Church the Lord of Glory Iesus Christ the Sonne of the Father the Sonne of God and God Neither had hee any name after his resurrection which he hath not before But by a name in this place is to be understood Glo●y and Honour and Dominion and Majesty and Power ouer all things created as the same word is elsewher used as Ephes. 4 21. So that when it is sayd God hath given him a name above every name The meaning is that God having raised up Christ Iesus from the dead hath so highly exalted him in the heavenly places thath he hath given him all Power both in Heaven and Earth all Dominion over all creatures whatsoever and the same glory which he hath with him from the Beginning so that now he raigneth and ruled with him King over all and blessed for ever Which hee there proves and paralells with Heb. 2 9. Ephes. 1 20.21 Iohn 17 5. Matth. 18.18 and then conclude● thus To knitt up all in a word Christ God and Man after his resurrection was crowned with glory and honour even such as plainely shewed him to be God There to rule and raigne as soveraigne Lord and King till he came in the clouds to judge both quick and dead After which hee proceeds in these wordes Where by the name of Iesus wee are not to understand the bare name of Iesus as though it had the vertue in it to drive away Divells or as though at the very sound of it all were to bowe their knees For at the name of Saviour which is the same with Iesus none boweth and t●e name of Christ Emanuell of the Sonne of God of God which are names no lesse precious and glorious than is the name of Iesus True it is that bowing at the name of Iesus is a custome which had been much used and may without offence be retained when the minde is free from supe●stition But to bow and kneele at the very sound of the name when wee only heare the name of Iesus sounding in our eares but know not what the name meaneth savoureth of superstition By bowing the knee the Apostle heer meaneth that subjection which all creatures ought continually to performe and which all creatures shall performe to Christ in that day some unwillingly and to their confusion as the Divells and wicked men their instruments for so the Lord by his Prophet useth the same phrase of speach where hee sayth Every knee shall bow to mee that is● shall be subject to mee and worshipp mee Here then is a duty prescribed necessary to be performed of every Christian which is to glorify him who is exalted in the highth of glory both in our bodies and in our Soules to worship him with holy worship to subject our selves to him in all obedience unto his heavenly will For worthy is the Lambe that was killed to receive all power and wisedome and strength and honour and praise and glory The Angels in heaven they glorify the name of Iesus in that they are allwayes ready to execute his will and doe whatsoever hee commandeth them This also is that holy worshipp wherewith wee ought to worshipp him and to glorify his name even to be Hearers and Doers of his will in his word to obey his will to walke in his Lawes and to keepe his commandements not the bare and outward capping and kneeing of the name Iesus but principally obedience to his will that is named is the honour which here hee accepteth of us For as not every one that sayeth Lord Lord shall enter into the Kingdome of heaven So not every one that boweth at the name of Iesus shall enter into his Kingdome but hee that doth ●is will and walketh in his wayes Saul when hee was send to slay the Amalekites thought to honour God greatly by sparing the best of the Sheepe and Oxen to sacrifice unto him But it was sayd unto him Hath the Lord as grea● pleasure in burnt offerings and Sacrifices as when his voyce is obeyed Behould to obey is better than sacrifice and to hearken is better than the fatt of Rames So you happly think you honour our blessed Saviour greatly when you bow your selves at every sound of his name but behould to obey his will is better than capping and kneeing and all outward Ceremonies whatsoever Yet mistake mee not I beseech you as though I thought that