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A84067 A call to the churches; or, A packet of letters to the pastors of Wales presented to the baptized teachers there. With a postscript of a Welsh dispute. By Will. Erbery. Erbery, William, 1604-1654. 1653 (1653) Wing E3224; Thomason E688_1; ESTC R206886 39,182 57

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a few 3. Spake not with tongues 4. Gave not the Spirit by laying on of hands as the Apostles did after Jesus was glorified Thirdly the weakest this day I mean many of the scattered Saints who do not profess any Gospel-faith to themselves yet dare not deny it in them for there 's a perfect confusion a Babel in their spirits as in gathered Societies I say the weakest of scattered Saints this day do greater works then Christ did in the days of his flesh though the Spirit appear not in them nor they as doing those works For first Babylons fall is by them yea Babylon the great from first to last has been ever laid lowe by the weakest of scattered Saints Isa 26.5 6. Zach. 12.7 Jer. 51.58 while the gathered Churches in all Ages have been still building Babylon a new when and old Form or piece of the wall has been falling Secondly the least of the flock draws for Babylon for utter destruction Jer. 50.45 yea draw them out whom Saints out of the Church Thirdly the weakest Isa 41.15 Jer. 51.20 Psal 149.8 9. 1 Cor. 6.2 3. even worms do this day thresh mountains throw down hills tear the rocks and whole armies in pieces break kingdoms binde kings nobles and judges yea judge the world and angels of Churches for the feeble or fallen Hebr. is become as David and the house of David as God Zach. 12.8 and the angel of the Lord before them All this we see done by the Saints this day and the Saints thus to be though they believe not for now they begin to walk not by faith but by sight that 's the third dispensation which being full Isa 52.8 Rom. 8.18 24. Rev. 22.4 faith shall be swallowed up into vision hope into o possession of that glory wherein we shall see God as he is see his face and the Father's Name on our foreheads yea his Name so visible and clear upon us that all men shall see God the Father in us and whole nations joyn to the Lord with us in that day This was the last truth which I taught That God is in union with mankinde And this I was about to prove by Argument That God is in union with man And this was all I taught the people But M. Nichols fearing the Arguments that might follow would needs perswade that I held a spiritual union between men and God This I never said but for Disputes sake and to try the mans strength I undertook to prove That union which is by the Spirit is a spiritual union But the union between God and mankinde is by the Spirit Ergo. This he could neither stand against therefore falls off fairly again Truth saith he the union is spiritual but not of grace God is not graciously united to All men I was willing to follow the man or the Lord in his weakness therefore I replied again The grace of God that bringeth salvation Tit. 2.11 hath appeared to All men Therefore the grace of union is to all or God graciously united to Mankinde This is that Philanthropie or kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man which appeared Tit. 3.4 This he grants again and therefore cries quarter the third time 'T is of grace saith he there is a gracious union but the union is not saving between God and all men or Mankinde Here I would follow him no further but left him in the flight because I foresaw and Ambush laid before me and that in the salvation of all men the man sought my destruction Therefore here the Dispute ended and we both departed in peace as friends But though I desire not any Disputes with men yet I shall with God make it good in due time That there is a Saving union between God and Mankinde for Tir. 2.11 the grace of God that bringeth salvation to All men hath appeared so the margin reads and so I am ready to prove to all the world London Jan. 18. 1652. Your William Erbery FINIS
16.17 This little while cannot be at the end of the world after so many hundreds of yeers to be seen in a fleshly appearence but not many days hence that 's a little while Acts 1.5 Yea but how was this in the like manner for they saw him go up in the flesh true but they saw not the fulness of the Spirit dwelling in that flesh after 't was raised but when he should ascend and give gifts unto men then God who received gifts in the man as the Hebrew reads Psal 68.18 appearing in the Saints and in their flesh with that Spirit and power that was in Christ is said to come and thus in the same sense or in the like manner Jesus came as they saw him go up to heaven Indeed he was taken up in the Cloud but the Cloud was to take him out of their sight Act. 1.9 to take his fleshly presence out of their sight this they would fain see still but should not verse 10. and he will come again in a Cloud that is in our flesh when most confused and darke for so the Disciples were before the Spirit came at first The comfort is at his second coming when in our flesh we are most cloudy dark confused Christ will come or appear in us with more majesty power and glory in the glory of the Father in us Yea the Apostles themselves dream'd of a personal raigne of Christ or restoring the Kingdome to Israel Act. 1.6 But 't is not for you to know the times and seasons which the Father hath put in his owne power but ye shall receive power after that the holy Spirit is come upon you verse 7. Mark I pray you how the times and seasons of the Kingdom of Christ and of Israel with him was in the Fathers power this they were not to know nor could they while carnal but when the power of the holy Spirit came upon them they should then know the Kingdome restored to Israel when they had received power from on high for the Kingdome of God is within us This my dear Brother shall be made know to you and me that the Kingdome of God comes not by outward observation but seeing the Spirit shall againe be poured forth from on high Isa 32.15 let us wait for this together though our Palaces be forsaken verse 14. though our Church-fellowships and flesh fall for so 't will be before the Spirit come verse 9. to 13. for Christs pure flesh was crucified through weakness before he was raised in power or received the Spirits fulness Then shall we know the reign of Christ and of the Saints with him for a thousand years Rev. 20.4 6. but as yet what fleshly thoughts and interpretations have passed over these words by the Millenaries of old and by many gratious Saints of late what is all the book of the Revelation a Mystery and must these one thousand years onely be literally understood just for ten hundred of years and will not the Saints be more spiritual but still to think of a fleshly reigne a reigne of Christ after the flesh and of Saints after the flesh whereas no man nor Christ is to be known so any more And may not the one thousand years be but one day and that one day the day of God when God shall appear for that day is called one day Zach. 14.7 known to the Lord to the Lord alone in us Dear Sir I shall leave but two things and it may be a third to your serious considerations First you know the appearances of God from the beginning have been more and more spiritual and will be so to the end how fleshly and outward did he appear before and under the Law in visible forms In the Gospel the presence of the Lord and his power was more spiritual in inward and eternal things that is in things not seen 2 Cor. 4.18 Therefore the third dispensation which Mr. Mostons Letter tells you will be more spiritual yet Heb. 5.7 who in the days of his flesh c. that was when be was on earth therefore his being now in the Heaven is all in the Spirit for he is far above all heavens Eph. 4.10 for though Christ was in the days of his flesh yet he was not fully come till the Spirit was sent therefore this second coming will be more in the Spirit yet for the Apostles themselves had but the first fruits of the Spirit there will be a harvest a fuller measure of the Spirit then was in the Apostles times as the Prophets testifie Zach. 14.8.9.10 Secondly doth not the reigne of Christ which you hold forth in a fleshly presence hinder the Saints from looking for the Spirit that fulness of the Spirit promised by all the Prophets to be poured forth in the last dayes when he comes the second time without sin to salvation with fulness of the Spirit in us Lastly doth not that preaching of yours cause many Saints to be more carnal earthly looking for a Kingdome here below for they begin to reigne already as Kings but not with Christ nor in righteousness which is that alone and not in forms of Religion that shall dwell in the new Heaven and new Earth now waited for My dearest salutes and service present to all the Saints with you If I have not tyred your Spirit with these tedious lines and if you shall please to interpret my love and enlarged affections therein with acceptance thereof you will much more oblige Brecknock the 23 of Aug. 26. 1652. Your William Erbery For Mr. Walter Cradock Loving friend WHat was at first intended to all the Pastors in Wales that is now presented to you last who are first but as the first shall be last so He who is the last and the first is now beginning to appear not onely in the scattered Saints and against the gathered Churches but to gather up all into himself This is the hope and joy of Your William Erbery Dear Brethren IErusalem is ruined and Judah is fallen c. not onely Judah the National-Church but the gathered Churches of Saints that 's Jerusalem yet the old Jerusalem was the holy City a City in unity or compact together not onely in Spirit as Saints but in Forms as Churches but the Churches of Saints being this day divided in both and de filed also in their worships and walkings shew that they are fallen from their first love and from that Gospel-faith which wrought by love unfained to all Saints and to all men besides that pure conscience peaceable converse with holiness and heavenly mindedness self-denial and zeal once appearing among the Saints in Wales being so far from their present profession I could not but write and print because not admitted or not invited to confer in your Congregations What I have said and done in publique I am not sorry for though sorrow and sufferings are in my flesh being forced in Spirit to make my self bare first and then my brethrens nakedness