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A87881 The observator observed, or, Animadversions upon observations on the history of King Charles wherein that history is vindicated, partly illustrated, and severall other things tending to the rectification of some publique mistakes, are inserted : to which is added, at the latter end, the observators rejoinder. L'Estrange, Hamon, 1605-1660. 1656 (1656) Wing L1188A; ESTC R179464 41,478 51

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of that War by introducing the Liturgy amongst them Sc. spe quidem laudabili eventu verò pessimo with a good intent but exceeding ill successe why so Hinc siquidem c. For from hence proceeded Tragedies Tumults War and Invasion Now that War which an Arch-Bishop occasion'd and which was entred into for maintaining that Hierarchy may I hope without offence be called the Bishops War But here I am cut off the Observator telling us that Religion was but the vizard to disguise that businesse which covetousnesse and sacriledge had the greatest had in which he confirmes by this ensuing Narrative The King being engaged into a War with Spain and deserted by those who engaged him in it amongst other wayes of assistance was minded of a purpose his Father had of Revoking all Grants of Abby Lands c. which being vested in the Crown were by his Protectors in his Minority conferred on many of the Nobility and Gentry c. Being resolved upon the same course he intends a Parliament in that Kingdome appoints the Earle of Nidderdale to preside therein and armes him with instructions for passing of an Act of Revocation accordingly who being on his way as far as Barwick was there informed that all was in Tumult at Edinburgh that a rich coach which he had sent before to Dalkeith was cut in pieces the poore horses killed the people seeming onely sorry that they could not doe the like to the Earle himselfe Things being brought to this stand and the Parliament put off with a sine Die the King was put to a necessity of second Councels c. Answer That many had other then Religious designes there is little doubt they hoping to obtain that honour or wealth in a troubled State which they were consident they should never arrive at in a calm Now as concerning this Relation the Observator being a person to whom I am so much obliged I cannot but as part of requital of his own labours adde something for illustration of his Story and rectifying some mistakes thereof Know then Reader that this Earl of Nidderdale of whom the Observator speakes was then no Earle but the Lord Maxwell no more but so and the very Man or I am deceived mention'd in Habernfield Discovery For a rank Papist he was and Anno 1624. went to Rome to receive the Popes extraordinary Benediction which the Councel of Scotland hearing of they set out a Bar or Prescription against him for departing the Kingdome without leave Soon after King James dying he came over into England and by the Dukes favour whose Kinswoman he had married was Anno 1625. joyned in Commission with the Earle of Anandale Murrey for summoning a Parliament not for Revoking of Church and other lands formerly invested in the Crown but for contribution of monies and ships against the Dunkirkers and was designed to preside there with power to place and displace what Officers he pleased In Order and Pomp sutable to so great a Trust the Lord buyes him a Coach most radiant and richly gilded this he sends before him to Dalkeith The Councel of Scotland having early notice of this conspire to adhere and stick close together and to oppose his commission And the surer to frustrate the Lords designe they send to all the chief Towns informing them what was comming desiring they would send in the money with all expedition The Townes conformed instantly and all was done yea the very undoing and destruction of his glorious Coach before the Lord Maxwell came to Barwich and further he durst not go being informed his person so generally hated might be in great danger there but posted a main to the Court of England where finding the King cool in the businesse having had an account from the Councel of Scotland of al their proceedings advertised by them how displeasing a President that Lord was like to prove in respect of his Religion h the Duke gone to the Hague after him he goes and returnes with him into England The Duke and this Lord being come to Court possesse the King with strange insolences and affronts committed by the Councel of Scotland against his Regal power His Majesty in some indignation thereupon sends for them to come forthwith and answer what he had to object against them up they come to court and being by his Majesty chidden for their miscarriages they defying this Lord openly in his Majesties presence spake withal bug words not very loyal 't is confest whereat his Majesty told them then and not before he would make them restore all to the Crown which they had taken from it in his Fathers Minority This and somewhat more my information from a credible hand and of a date agreeable to the story what succeeded hereupon the Observator tells you Page 163. Fol. 161. The King first named eight Bishops then those eight Bishops those eight Noble men those Noble men chose so many Barons and those the like number of Burgesses c. Observator Not altogether so as our Author hath it for the Bishops and Noble men together chose eight Commissioners for the Sheriffdomes and as many for the Corporations Answer My informer being a Person of such eminency of that Nation and so versed in the affairs of that Kingdome is I think more credible in this particular then a forreigner Page 171. Fol. 182. True it is he had too much and too long favoured the Romish Faction but as upon what account he favoured it is uncertain c. Our Author here acquits the Archbishop from the Popish faith but leaves him under a suspition of favouring the Popish faction which in a man who cannot tell upon what account he favoured it may be thought uncharitable But both King James and King Charles in several Declarations give this Reason for it c. Answer It is I think no uncharitable act to censure any man for what is professedly true no matter upon what account to condemn a man for what is but a bare surmise may be uncharitable And that the Archbishop favoured the Popish faction our Observator doth not only grant but endeavors to shew upon what account it was saying Both King James and King Charles in several Declarations and in their several Answers to Parliament Petitions give this reason for it for it for what for the Archbishops favouring the Popish faction did ever any such thing ever enter into their thoughts as to declare what moved the Archbishop to favour the Romish faction I will not dwell upon this reason which the Observator would perswade us he had for it that is therefore to obtain like favours for such Protestants as lived in the Dominions of Popish Princes nor on what he might have had of keeping the ballance even between them and the Puritans But deliver what having heard formerly but upon dubious report I am I think certainly informed was the true cause thereof For being told by one that he had many an ill look from
And whereas the Observator is become a stout advocate for the Spanish faith in the point both of the match and the Pallatinate had he perused the letter of King Philip the third to the Conde of Olivares extant in the last Cabala and recited in Parliament he might there have found that neither was sincerely intended but meerly delayes sought for by the Spaniard to accomplish his perfidious ends And as for Bristowes letter insisted upon by the Observator it signifyeth nothing to the vindication of the Spanish faith that Earl being articled against in Parliament for abusing both the King and Prince with a false perswasion of Spains sincerity Page 12. Fol. 4. Which being new and the businesse propounded it was entertain'd with an unanimous consent and a motion made that an Ambassador should be sent over to negotiate that Treaty I somewhat doubt of your intelligence the marriage of the Prince containing such a branch of the Royal Prerogative as King James was not likely to communicate with his Houses of Parliament For when he was Petitioned by both Houses not long before that for the avoyding of some dangers which did seem to threaten the whole Kingdom he would marry the Prince to a Lady of the Protestant Religion he entertain'd the motion with no small disdain Answer The Logick of the Observator The King was angry when the Parliament moved him concerning the mariage of the Prince Ergo which is in English therefore he would not communicate with them in one of his own liking Again it was no more lessening of his Prerogative to communicate with them in the entrance into then in the breach of a Treaty of that nature as he did in that of Spain which was the main businesse debated in the Parliament 21. Jac. Page 13. Ibid. In the stile of the Court he went for Great Britaines Solomon That he was Great Solomon that is to say either the wisest man or wisest King of the British Nation I am not Courtier enough to defend or say It is true indeed that he much pleased himself with boasting of his King-Craft but I have heard many wise men say that they could never find what that King-Craft was Answer The Observator here falls foul upon King James inveighing against and withal detracting from his King-Craft Pitty it is his Observations came so tarde into the world that Squire Sanderson took no notice of them in this particular who would else have taught him either more wit or manners Page 14. Fol. 5. A stout adversary he was to the Arminians and Semipelagians whom he call'd as Prosper before him the enemies of Gods grace In this short Sentence there are many things to be considered 1. What these Arminians were which our Author speaks of 2. Whether they were the enemies of Gods grace or not 3. What the Reason was why King James shew'd himself so great an adversary to them Answer In the persuance of these three particulars the Observator spends not lesse then 10. pages wherein though I am very little concerned yet I shall take the liberty to observe these few things First he saith St. Augustines zeal against the Pelagian heresy transported him into inconvenient expressions It were a very proper work for this Observator to instance to us those inconvenient expressions and to undertake the confutation of him as he is presented to the world by Jansenius Secondly he imputeth to them of Calvins way this opinion that a man is forcibly drawn and irresistibly with the cords of grace in the work of conversion Let him produce the men who and where they say it They take away indeed an actual resistance of the will as inconsistent simul semel with efficacious grace but none I think assert this irresistibility the Observator mentioneth Nor is this all but they hold also saith he that man contributeth nothing to his own eternity A thing I am confident never declared in terminis by any but seeing the man seems to account it as one of their errours I would gladly learn and have the Observator explain this Metaphysical whimwham how Eternity for so he saith not Salvation can recipere majus minus receive either augmentation or diminution from man Lastly he endeavoureth to shew that King James was much governed by Doctor Mountague Bishop of Winchester who being of a contrary perswasion put him upon many harsh and severe expressions against those poor men But this Mountague being dead he began to shew himself more favourable unto those opinions especially upon the comming out of a book of another Mountague then Prebend of Windsor whose judgment in those points he liked very wel A thing most unlikely for in Theological controversies it is well known King James was able enough to go alone needed not like a child be led up and down by the hanging sleeves from one opinion to the other by either the one or the other And whereas Mr. Mountague is made the man who first reformed King James his judgement I offer it to consideration how probably it is asserted when An. 1628. this Mr. Mountague then Bishop together with Dr. Neal Bishop of Winchester being Remonstrated to the King as abetters of those Tenets and the King declaring dislike of those Novelties both he and the other Bishop with tears in their eyes protesting they hated those opinions and before his Majesty and his Councel on their knees renounced them So Sr. Humphrey Mildmay averred in open Parliament 30 Careli nomine contradicente No one neer the Chair contradicting Page 25. Fil. 6. The Kings Corps on the 4th of May was conveyed to Westminster and there inhumed c. Our Author tells us in the end of his Preface what a special care he hath of his temporalitie and yet he failes us here in the first beginning For neither was the body of the King interred on the 4th of May not the letters of procuration kept undelivered until the 8th nor the Marriage Celebrated after the Funeral of the King For upon Sunday May the first c. Answer That the 4th of May was put for the 7th is confest to be a mistake and it must be either in the Printer or a meer clip of my pen for that I intended it so I have these reasons to perswade the contrary First all my informations not one and four they were dissenting fixt the Kings interment on the 7th and I were a mad Historian to vary in so impertinent a matter from those informations Secondly my mentioning that that solemnity would be past May the 8th may probably imply I intended to assign the 7th for it for else the 5th day had been more proper But this is not all I am mistaken also in the celebration of the marriage which though at first designed to be on the 8th as I am able in fallibly to demonstrate was as I am now informed on the first of May as we account So that two errours are in point