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A43106 Remarks upon the tryals of Edward Fitzharris, Stephen Colledge, Count Coningsmark, the Lord Russel, Collonel Sidney, Henry Cornish, and Charles Bateman as also on the Earl of Shaftsbury's grand jury, Wilmore's Homine replegiando, and the award of execution against Sir Thomas Armstrong / by John Hawles. Hawles, John, Sir, 1645-1716. 1689 (1689) Wing H1188; ESTC R10368 100,698 108

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business he was four or five times between Christman and March with the Earl and the Captain that the Captain told him he was to Command Fifty Men to be the Earls Guard at Oxon and would have had him to be One That if the King did not Consent to several Acts of Parliament and other things they were to Purge the Guards and Court of several Persons and tho' the Captain told him that first yet afterwards he heard the Earl say the same things particularly about a week or ten days before the Parliament sate at Oxon he gave some Intimation of this to Walter Banes and then Writ it down and sent it to the Counsel Sealed in a Cover Turbervile swore that the Lord Shaftsbury said about February there was but little good to be done with the King as long as his Guards were about him Smith testified a great deal of discourse between him and the Lord Shaftsbury of something said Reflecting on the King and that he should say that if the King should offer any violence to the Parliament at Oxford he would meet with a strong Opposition for that the Gentlemen who came out of the Country came well provided with Horse and Arms to Oppose and that they might Lawfully do it if he offered and Violence to them whilst they sate Haynes swore that the Earl said if the King did not give Haynes his Pardon he and others would raise the Kingdom against him that Haynes gave the Earl an exact Account of Transactions since King Charles the First 's coming to the Crown and that the Earl said the Duke of Buckingham had as much Right to the Crown as any Stewart in England John Macnamarra said the Earl said the King was Popishly Affected and took the same Methods his Father did which brought his Fathers Head to the Block and they would bring his thither and this was said in the presence of Ivey and he thought of his Brother and said the King deserved to be deposed as much as King Richard the Second Dennis Macnamarra likewise testified the last words and that it was the latter end of March or beginning of April Ivey said the Earl said if the King denyed Haynes a Pardon they would rise upon him and force him to give one and that they design'd to depose him and set up another in his stead Bernard Dennis said he had a great deal of discourse with the Earl who bid him speak to his Friends in Ireland for they intended to have England under a Commonwealth and Extirpate the King and his Family Then the Court told the Jury the Indictment was grounded on the Statute of King Charles the Second but they ought to consider of that Statute as also the 25th of Edward the Third The question is whether the Grand Jury ought to have found the Bill on this Evidence first it ought to be considered what the Duty of a Grand Jury is and I think it is not what the Chief Justice said to consider only whether there be probable ground for the King to call the Person Accused to an Account much less do I think that the reason of the finding of a Bill by the Grand Jury was for the Honour of the King or Decency of the Matter least Persons Accused should be called to an Account by the King where there is no kind of Suspition of the Crime Committed by them as the Court said which last Matter was never assigned as a Reason of finding a Bill by the Grand Jury before but I take the Reason of a Grand Jury to be this that no Man for a Capital Matter shall ever be questioned by the King unless a Grand Jury take it on their Oaths that they believe the Matter of the accusation is true I do put an Emphasis on the words questioned by the King. It is true it is generally said That the business of a Grand-Jury in capital Matters is in favorem vitae but that taken simply is not true for then what reason can be assigned why a Man shall be Arraigned on an Appeal of Murder Robbery or the like which touches his Life as much as an Indictment of those Crimes without having the Matter of the Appeal first found to be true by a Grand Jury but the true reason of a Grand Jury is the vast inequality of the Plaintiff and Defendant which in an Indictment is always between the King and his Subjects and that doth not hold in an Appeal which is always between Subject and Subject and therefore the Law in an Indictment hath given a Privilege to the Defendant which it hath done in no other Prosecution of purpose if it were possible to make them equal in the Prosecutions and Defence that equal Justice may be done between both It considers the Judges Witnesses and Jury are more likely to be influenc'd by the King than the Defendant the Judges as having been made by him and as it is in his Power to turn them out punish to prefer or reward them higher and though there are not just Causes for them to strain the Law yet they are such Causes which in all Ages have taken place and probably always will this was the reason of running Prerogative so high in their Judgment of High Treason before the Stat. of Ed. III. That no Man as that Statute says knew what was not High Treason This was the reason of expounding that Statute oftentimes between the making of it and the making the Statute of Queen Mary that People was at as great a Loss till the last Statute as they were before the making of the first and even since the Statute of Queen Mary the Exposition on the Statute of Ed. III. hath been so extravagant and various that People are at this day as much at a Loss to know what is not High Treason as they were before the Statue of Ed. 3. norwas it or is it possible that the great Power of enriching honouring rewarding and punishing lodged in the King but that it always had and yet must have an influence on the Witnesses and Jury and therefore it is that the Law hath ordered that at the King's Proscution no Man shall be criminally questioned unless a Grand Jury upon their own Knowledg or upon the Evidence given them shall give a Verdict that they really believe the Accusation is true Iown of late days They have said the Duty of the Grand Jury is to find whether the Accusation is probable but that saying is warranted by no positive Law or antient Authority and therefore the Duty of the Grand Jury must be founded in the Oath administred to them which is as strict as the Oath administred to the Petit Jury and to say Truth the Verdict of the Petit Jury takes credit from the Verdict of the Grand Jury which is not only the reason of the difference in the Names of the two Juries but is likewise the reason why an Attaint for a false Verdict doth not lye
Libel as ever was writ yet I own if it had been writ and dispersed with that Design it had been High Treason within the Statute of E. 2. But the most natural Construction of the worst Design of it was to trepan the Parliament-men and make the Libels Evidences of a Rebellious Conspiracy this Everard confesses Fitzharris told him was the use to be made of them and Everard could not know the Design of them but by what Fitzharris told him And Oates well explains what Everard meant by the words in his Evidence put the Libel on the Nonconformists by what Everard told him But yet even that though in it self the highest Crime a Man can be guilty of next to putting it in Execution is but a Conspiracy which was mildly punished in Lane and Knox their Case though this exceeded that that being a design only against one Person this against many Yet tho' this was of no higher Crime by the Law as now established than a Misdemeanor it was fit for the Legislative Power to have punished it in manner it was punished which yet the Legislative Power ought to resent as an Injury for an inferior Court 's snatching the Exercise of that Power out of their hands which only belongs to the Supream Authority That this Crime upon construction of the Evidence taken in the best Sense is no Treason though the Libel should in all probability incite the Subject to leavy War which it was not likely to do or in Fact it had been the cause of a Rebellion yet if it was not designed by the Contriver to that purpose it was not Treason by the Statute of Edward the Third or Charles the Second for in the last Statute it is Designing to levy War and in the Statute of Edward the 3d. it is a strained Construction to make designing to leavy War Treason yet none ever pretended to strain the Sense of that Statute farther than designing to do it If the Ill Effects the Libel did or might produce made it Treason then Sir Samuel Astrey who read it in Court at the Tryal and the Printer that afterward printed and published it and Sir William Waller who read it to Mr. Hunt and others were guilty of Treason for the Libel carried no Venom or Charm with it the more for being framed by Fitzharris or Everard or for being published by either of them than if published by another person The difference is Astrey read it aloud as his Duty the Printer printed and published it for gain Sir William Waller published it as a Novelty and if Fitzharris contrived it to put it upon the Nonconformists or Parliament Men and not stir up a Rebellion tho' it tended to all the ill consequences mentioned in his Indictment yet it was not Treason But it will be urged how shall Fitzharris his intention be proved it was a question which made a mighty sputter in arguing the Plea how shall it be proved that the Impeachment was for the same Treason for which the Indictment was but in the Tryal of Fitzharris that question was fully cleared for it was proved there that the very Libel then produced in Court was the same Libel read in the House of Commons upon which the Impeachment was Voted And to say Truth nothing can be put in Issue but is capable of Tryal Quo animo a thing is done in all overt Acts of a design is one of the main questions or to speak in Law Phrase whether done proditoriè or not an Adverb of great use and sense tho' heretofore slighted and under which I believe a great many persons will be enforc'd to shelter themselves from being punished by the Law Established No Man will pretend that Libel did any man Mischief but the Contriver nor in probability could have done if not used to the purpose Everard said to Oates Yet other persons have been guilty of as illegal Acts of worse consequences in prospect and much worse in effect and it did not amount to Treason I dare say the Allegation that they disturbed the Kingdom by their Acts and War caused to be moved against the King is true of them and they are guilty of all the aggravations used in Indictments of Treason To instance in some of many Did it not make a mighty heart-burning in the City against the Government and raised great Jealousies between the King and People when the Sheriffs North and Rich were imposed on the City Did not the taking away the Cities right of Electing Sheriffs and the suspicions for what end it was done besides the Illegalities that followed If Sir Edward Herbert in his late Vindication fol. 16. be Law as it hath an Aspect as if it were that Grand Juries returned by such as are Sheriffs in fact but not in right are illegal and Convictions on their presentments are illegal and void give great disturbance and that Opinion seems to be countenanced by my Lord Coke's 3d. Instit fol. 32. in his Comment on the 11th of Henry the 4th and consequently the Lord Russel's and other Attainders void Did it not add to the heart-burning the punishing those Citizens as Rioters who were at Guildhall innocently contesting their right of Electing Was it not an increase of the mischief the bringing the Quo Warranto against the City whereby the Credit of the City was lost and many Orphans starved and more impoverished beyond the possibility of recovery And it was yet heightned by the Judgment given in the highest Case that ever came into Westminster-Hall by two Judges only and that without one word of Reason given at the pronouncing according to the pattern of Fitzharris his case and was the second mute Judgment Did it not fright all honest men from being on criminal Juries when Willmore was so illegally prosecuted for not giving a Verdict against his Conscience by an homine replegiando and Information And did not that make all Merchants who had Transactions beyond Sea afraid to send their Servants thither for fear they might be laid by the heels till they fetched them back again Did it not startle the Lords and the Leading Men of the House of Commons mentioned so often in Fitzharris his Tryal when the Earl of Essex Lord Russel Collonel Sidney Mr. Hampden and several others were clapt up close Prisoners in the Tower Did it not deter any honest man from appearing to witness the truth when Sir Patience Ward was convicted of Perjury Did it not provoke two great and noble Families when the Lord Russel and Collonel Sidney were so illegally and unhandsomely dealt withal as shall be hereaster declared Did it not provoke all the Nation except the Clergy and Soldiery when all the Charters of England were seized and not regranted but at excessive rates to the starving the poor who should have been fed with the Money which went to purchase the new Charters and reserving the disposition of all the places of profit and power within the new Corporations to the