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A26914 The difference between the power of magistrates and church-pastors and the Roman kingdom & magistracy under the name of a church & church-government usurped by the Pope, or liberally given him by popish princes opened by Richard Baxter. Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1671 (1671) Wing B1241; ESTC R3264 44,016 63

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