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A49441 A treatise of the nature of a minister in all its offices to which is annexed an answer to Doctor Forbes concerning the necessity of bishops to ordain, which is an answer to a question, proposed in these late unhappy times, to the author, What is a minister? Lucy, William, 1594-1677. 1670 (1670) Wing L3455; ESTC R11702 218,889 312

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signification_n and_o mystery_n of_o baptism_n which_o it_o impart_v to_o every_o baptize_v man_n be_v not_o nor_o can_v be_v before_o his_o death_n for_o as_o st._n paul_n speak●_n rom._n 6._o 3._o know_v you_o not_o that_o as_o many_o of_o we_o as_o be_v baptize_v into_o jesus_n christ_n be_v baptize_v into_o his_o death_n baptize_v into_o i●sus_n christ_n that_o be_v by_o baptism_n incorporate_v into_o his_o mystical_a body_n or_o as_o he_o speak_v plant_v verse_n 5._o be_v baptize_v into_o his_o death_n by_o the_o same_o phrase_n incorporate_v into_o his_o death_n dead_a with_o he_o and_o this_o enforce_v the_o four_o verse_n therefore_o we_o be_v bury_v with_o he_o by_o baptism_n into_o death_n if_o we_o be_v incorporate_v into_o he_o by_o baptism_n if_o incorporate_a into_o his_o death_n by_o baptism_n than_o we_o must_v be_v bury_v with_o he_o and_o then_o we_o must_v be_v raise_v with_o he_o now_o this_o mystery_n can_v not_o effect_v until_o our_o saviour_n death_n and_o 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their_o slowness_n of_o belief_n in_o these_o article_n now_o if_o they_o have_v not_o a_o strong_a ●aith_n in_o these_o article_n themselves_o it_o be_v not_o reasonable_a to_o believe_v that_o they_o preach_v they_o to_o other_o and_o then_o not_o baptize_v other_o into_o it_o these_o reason_n be_v not_o observe_v by_o bellarmine_n or_o gamacheus_n or_o estius_n or_o any_o other_o i_o meet_v with_o who_o handle_v this_o gamacheus_n in_o general_a affirm_v something_o to_o this_o last_o argument_n that_o christ_n death_n be_v powerful_a to_o the_o salvation_n of_o soul_n even_o before_o it_o be_v which_o i_o grant_v but_o not_o by_o that_o mean_n which_o take_v his_o death_n for_o a_o pattern_n or_o a_o stock_n in_o which_o it_o must_v be_v graft_v for_o the_o graft_n suppose_v the_o stock_n and_o the_o thing_n draw_v the_o pattern_n to_o such_o mean_n as_o be_v type_n or_o figure_n of_o christ_n to_o come_v not_o impression_n or_o sign_n of_o christ_n already_o come_v again_o he_o 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original_a grace_n which_o be_v its_o near_a and_o formal_a effect_n i_o reply_v neither_o can_v it_o do_v this_o for_o since_o circumcision_n be_v yet_o on_o foot_n which_o have_v that_o effect_v proper_a to_o it_o these_o two_o have_v not_o both_o the_o same_o operation_n at_o the_o same_o time_n and_o again_o since_o the_o introduction_n of_o original_a or_o any_o grace_n must_v be_v by_o the_o death_n and_o merit_n of_o christ_n man_n must_v receive_v this_o blessing_n by_o that_o and_o that_o communicate_v by_o baptism_n for_o although_o these_o mercy_n be_v give_v by_o other_o covenant_n before_o his_o death_n which_o relate_v to_o his_o death_n to_o come_v yet_o not_o by_o those_o which_o refer_v to_o his_o death_n pass_v as_o this_o complant_n by_o baptism_n do_v gamach_n in_o 3._o qu●st_n 66._o cap._n 4._o sect_n ix_o another_o objection_n answer_v but_o what_o i_o find_v not_o object_v by_o they_o trouble_v i_o more_o than_o their_o argument_n until_o i_o study_v the_o reason_n of_o it_o which_o be_v what_o mean_v all_o our_o saviour_n covenant_n and_o promise_n concern_v baptism_n before_o his_o death_n which_o be_v understand_v by_o all_o consent_n to_o be_v applicable_a to_o our_o baptism_n which_o we_o use_v if_o then_o this_o sacrament_n be_v not_o ordain_v to_o be_v exhibit_v and_o to_o this_o we_o shall_v find_v this_o answer_n i_o think_v most_o reasonable_a that_o our_o saviour_n do_v settle_v law_n and_o rule_n and_o covenant_n for_o baptism_n in_o his_o life_n which_o have_v not_o their_o life_n and_o operation_n till_o his_o death_n when_o he_o settle_v the_o frame_n and_o manner_n of_o it_o so_o you_o may_v find_v the_o doctrine_n and_o law_n and_o covenant_n concern_v eat_n he_o body_n and_o blood_n deliver_v in_o the_o 6_o of_o st._n john_n gospel_n ver_fw-la 26_o 48_o etc._n etc._n which_o yet_o have_v not_o its_o truth_n and_o force_n until_o the_o institution_n of_o the_o communion_n and_o commission_n to_o celebrate_v so_o 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