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A37777 The declaration or remonstrance of the Lords and Commons in Parliament assembled with divers depositions and letters thereunto annexed.; Remonstrance of the state of the kingdome, agreed on by the Lords and Commons assembled in Parliament, May 19, 1642 England and Wales. Parliament.; Astley, Jacob Astley, Baron, 1579-1652.; Ballard, Thomas, Lieutenant Colonel to the Lord Grandison.; Chudleigh, James, d. 1643.; Conyers, John, Sir.; Goring, George Goring, Baron, 1608-1657.; Hunks, Fulk, Sir.; Lanyon, John.; Legge,William, 1609?-1670.; O'Connolly, Owen.; Percy, Henry, Baron Percy of Alnwick, d. 1659.; Vavasour, William, Sir, d. 1659. 1642 (1642) Wing E1517; ESTC R3809 41,214 58

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from the Parliament and to make them serviceable to the ends and aimes of those who would destroy them Therefore wee desire the Kingdome to take notice of this last most desperate and mischievous Plott of the malignant partie that is acted and prosecuted in many parts of the Kingdom under plausible Notions of stirring them up to a care of preserving the Kings Prerogative maintaining the Discipline of the Church upholding and continuing the reverence and solemnitie of Gods Service incouraging of Learning And upon these grounds divers mutinous Petitions have been framed in London Kent and other Counties and sundry of his Majesties Subjects have been sollicited to declare themselves for the King against the Parliament and many false and foule aspersions have been cast upon our proceedings as if wee had been not onely negligent but averse in these points whereas wee desire nothing more then to maintaine the puritie and power of Religion and to Honour the King in all His just Prerogatives and for encouragement and advancement of pietie and learning wee have very earnestly endeavoured and still doe to the uttermost of our Power that all Parishes may have learned pious and sufficient Preachers and all such Preachers competent Livings Many other Bills and Propositions are in preparation for the Kings Profit and Honour the peoples safetie and prosperitie In the proceedings whereof wee are much hindred by His Majesties absence from the Parliament which is altogether contrary to the use of his Predecessors and the Priviledges of Parliament whereby ou● time is consumed by a multitude of unnecessary Messages and our innocency wounded by causelesse and sharpe invectives Yet wee doubt not but wee shall overcome all this at last if the people suffer not themselves to be deluded with false and specious shewes and so drawne to betray us to their owne undoing who have ever been willing to hazard the undoing of our selves that they might not be betraid by our neglect of the trust reposed in us but if it were possible they should prevaile herein yet wee would not fai●e through Gods grace still to persist in our duties and to looke beyond our owne lives estates and advantages as those who thinke nothing worth the enjoying without the libertie peace and safetie of the Kingdom not any thing too good to be hazarded in discharge of our Consciences for the obtaining of it And shall alwayes repose our selves upon the Protection of Almightie God which wee are confident shall never be wanting to us while wee seeke his glory as wee have found it hitherto wonderfully going along with us in all our proceedings IT is his Majesties pleasure that you forthwith Print in very good Paper and send unto me for his Majesties Service fortie Copies of the Proclamation inclosed leaving a convenient space for his Majestie to signe above and to affix the Privie Signet underneath And his Majesties expresse Command is that you Print not above the said number of fortie Copies and forbeare to make any further publication of them till his pleasure be further signified for which this shall be your Warrant Whitehall 2. Ianuary 1641. Edw. Nicholas For His Majesties Printer The Examination of Colonell Goring taken June 19. 1641. HE saith That in Lent last as he remembers about the middle of it Sir John Suckling came to him on Sonday morning as he was in his bed And this Examinate conceiving he had come to him about some businesse of money that was between them and thereupon falling upon that discourse Sir John Suckling told him he was then come about another businesse which was to acquaint him That there was a purpose of bringing the Army to London And that my Lord of New-castle was to be Generall and he this Examinate Lievtenant Generall if he would accept of it And further said That he should hear more of this businesse at Court to which this Examinate answered only this Well then I will go to the Court which was all that passed between them at that time to the best of this Examinates remembrance To the second He cannot depose To the third He saith That as he was coming in his Coach in the street out of the Covent-Garden into St Martins Lane he met there Mr Henry Jermyn who was likewise in a Coach and seeing this Examinate sent his Foot-man to him desiring him to follow him because he would speak with him which this Examinate did And Mr Jermyn going a little further alighted and went into a house to which house as this examinate was but yesterday in formed Sir John Suckling did then usually resort and thither this Examinate followed him and coming after him to the top of the Seayr●s Mr Jermyn said to him He had somewhat to say to him concerning the Army but that this was no fit place to speak of it and desired him to meet him that evening at the Court on the Queens side which this Examinate accordingly did and meeting Mr Jermyn in the Queens drawing Chamber he was there told by him That the Queen would speak with him and thereupon Mr Jermyn brought him into the Queens Bed-chamber But before this Examinate could enter into any discourse with the Queen the King came in and then this Examinate did withdraw and went away for that time but returned again the same night and met Mr Jermyn again on the Queens side who told him that he must necessarily meet with some Officers of the Army to hear some Propositions concerning the Army The next day being Monday this Examinate came again to the Court in the after-noon and went into the Queens drawing-Chamber ●here Her Majesty then was who was pleased to tell him that the King would speak with him and bade him repair to the room within the Gallery into which Room the King soon after came and His Majesty asked him if he was engaged in any Cabale concerning the Army to which he answered That he was not whereupon His Majesty replyed I command you then to joyn your self with Peircy and some others whom you will finde with him And His Majesty likewise said I have a desire to put my Army into a good posture and am advised unto it by my Lord of Bristoll which was the effect of what passed between the King and this Examinate at that time This Examinate meeting afterwards with Mr Jermyn Mr Jermyn told him that they were to meet that evening at nine of the Clock with Mr Peircy and some others at Mr Peircyes Chamber and accordingly Mr Jermyn and he went thither together and there found Mr Peircy himself Mr Wilmot Mr Ashburnham Mr Pollard Mr Oneal and Sir John Bartley Mr Peircy then in the first place tendered an Oath to this Examinate and Mr Jermyn the rest saying they had taken that Oath already this Oath was prepared in writing and was to this effect That they should neither directly nor indirectly disclose any thing of that which should be then said unto them nor think themselves
nor doubt the Houses would have beene as forward to joyne in an order for the suppressi●g of such Tumults as they were not long before upon another occasion when they made an order to that purpose Whereas those Officers and Souldiers which committed that violence upon so many of the Citizens at Whitehall were cherisht and fostred in his Majesties House and when not long after the Common Councel of London presented a Petition to his Majesty for reparation of those injuries his Majesties Answer was without hearing the proofe of the complainants that if any Citizen were wounded or ill intreated his Majesty was confidently assured that it happened by their owne evill and corrupt demeanors We hope it cannot be thought contrary to the du●y and wisedome of a Parliament if many concurring and frequently reitterated and renewed advertizements from Rome Venice Paris and other parts if the solicitation of the Popes Nuntio and our owne discontented fugitives doe make us jealous and watchfull for the safety of the State And We have beene very carefull to make our expressions thereof so easie and so plaine to the capacity and understanding of the people that nothing might justly stick with them with reflection upon the Person of his Majesty Wherein We appeale to the judgement of any indifferent person who shall read and peruse our owne Words We must maintaine the ground of our feares to be of that moment that We cannot discharge the trust and duty which lyes upon us unlesse Wee doe apply our selves to the use of those meanes to which the Law hath enabled us in cases of this nature for the necessary defence of the Kingdom and as his Majesty doth graciously declare the Law shall be the Measure of his power so doe We most heartily professe that We shall alwayes make it the rule of our obedience Prudent omissions in the Answer The next poynt of our Declaration was with much caution artificially passed over by him who drew his Majesties Answer it being indeed the foundation of all our misery and his Majesties trouble that he is pleased to heare generall taxes upon his Parliament without any particular charge to which they may give satisfaction that he hath often conceived displeasure against particular persons upon misinformation although those informations have bin clearly proved to be false yet he would never bring the accusers to question which layeth an impossibility upon honest men of clearing themselves and gives incouragement unto false and unworthy persons to trouble him with untrue and groundlesse informations Three particulars we mentioned in our Declaration which the Penner of that Answer had good cause to omit the words supposed to be spoken at Kensington the pretended Articles against the Queen and the groundlesse accusation of the six Members of the Parliament there being nothing to be said in defence or deniall of any of them Concerning his M●●●sties desire to ioyne with his Parliament and with his faithfull Subiects in defence of Religion and publike good of the Kingdome we doubt not but he will doe it fully when evill Counsellors shall be removed from about him until that be as we shewed before of words so must we also say of Law●● that they cannot secure us witnesse the Petition of Right which was followed with such an inundation of illegall taxes that we had ●ust cause to thinke that the payment of eight hundred and twenty thousand pounds was an easie burthen to the Common-wealth in exchange of them and we cannot but iustly thinke that if there be a continuance of such ill Cou●sel●ors and favour to them they will by some wicked device or other make the Bill for the Trien 〈…〉 Parliament and those other excellent Lawes mentioned in his Maiesties Declaration of lesse value then words That excellent Bill for the continuance of this Parliament was so necessary that without it we could not have raised so great sums of mony for the 〈◊〉 of his Ma●esty the Common-wealth as we have don● and without which the ruine and destruction of the Kingdom must needs have followed And we are resolved the gracious favour of his Maiesty expressed in that Bill and the advantage and security which thereby we have from being dissolved shall not incourage us to doe any thing which otherwise had not beene fit to have beene done And we are ready to make it good before all the world that although his Maiesty hath passed man● Bills very advantagious for the Subject yet in none of them have we bereaved his Maiesty of any iust necessary or profitable Prerogative of the Crowne We so earnestly desire his Maiesties returne to London that upon it we conceive depends the very safety and being of both his Kingdomes And therefore we must protest that as for the time past neither the government of London nor any Lawes of the Land have lost their life and force for his security So for the future we shall be ready to doe or say anything that nay stand with the duty or honour of a Parliament which may raise a mutuall confidence betwixt his Maiesty and us as wee doe wish and as the affaires of the Kingdome doe require Thus far the Answer to that which is called his Maiesties Declaration hath led us now we come to that which is Intituled his Maiesties Answer to the Petition of both Houses presented to him at Yorke the 26 of March 1642. In the beginning whereof his Maiesty wisheth that 〈◊〉 Privileges on all parts wee so Stired that this way of correspondency might be preserved with that freedome which hath beene used of old we know nothing introduced by us that gives any impediment hereunto neither have we affirmed our Priviledges to be broken when his Maiesty denies us any thing or gives a reason why he cannot grant it or that those who advised such denyall were enemies to the peace of the Kingdome and favourers of the Irish Rebellion in which aspersion that is turned into a general asersion which in our Votes is applyed to a particular case wherefore we must maintaine our Votes that those who advised his Maiesty to contradict that which in both Houses in the Question concernig the Militia had declared to be Law and command it should not be obeyed is a high breach of priviledge and that those who advised his Maiesty to absent himselfe from his Parliament are enemies to the peace of the Kingdome and iustly to be suspected to be favourers of the Rebellion in Ireland the reasons of both are evident because in the first there is as great a derogation from the trust and authority of Parliament and in the second as much advantage to the proceedings and hopes of the Rebels as may be and we hold it a very causelesse imputation upon the Parliament that we have herein any way impeacht much lesse taken away the freedome of his Majesties Vote which doth not import a liberty for his Majesty to deny any thing how necessary soever for the