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A78018 Conformitie's deformity. In a dialogue between conformity, and conscience. Wherein the main head of all the controversies in these times, concerning church-government, is asserted and maintained; as without which, all reformation is headlesse, and all reconciliation hopelesse. Dedicated by Henry Burton, to the honour of Jesus Christ, as the first-fruits of his late recovery from death to life; as a testimony of his humble and thankfull acknowledgement of so great a mercy: and published for the service of all those, that love the Lord Jesus Christ in sincerity ... Burton, Henry, 1578-1648. 1646 (1646) Wing B6160; Thomason E358_20; ESTC R201164 26,532 40

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instance we need not go beyond the seas or over our English bounds to fetch it What if the generality of the Ministers and people in England be found to be wrapped in such a destructive Heresie I call it destructive using the * Apostles word where he saith That there shall be false teachers among Gods people who shall cunningly bring in destr●ying Heresies And what are these Even denying the Lord that bought them bringing upon themselves * swift destruction And many shall follow their destructive wayes or their destructions by whom the way of truth shall be * evill spoken of or blas●hemed A Prophesie by the way which if well weighed and rightly applyed may be found to be in a great measure fulfilled in these our times For here is first a destructive or as our common Translation damnable Heresie Secondly this Heresie * is in deaying the Lord Jesus Christ Thirdly here is a many followers Fourthly among this many there be some at least who have their mouthes open in Pulpits Streets Tables and their Quils in Presses in Pamphlets blaspheming speaking all manner of evill against the way of truth even that way of truth which holdeth forth confesseth professeth maintaineth against all the worlds reproaches Jesus Christ in that very particular wherein he is at this day so mightily decried and denied by false Teachers and their followers Nor can any Age as touching this one particular be paralleld with this of ours for Pens and Tongues of blasphemy lashing out and running over all the bounds and banks not only of Christianity but even of common modesty and humanity as men bereaft of their wits and all this against the assertors and maintainers of the Kingly Office of Jesus Christ And lastly a destructive Heresie in that not only it destroyes soules but is in a precipice to destroy Kingdoms to such a height of rage it is now grown Conf. But Mr. Conscience what means all this What In that your generality do you charge as all Synod Sion City Countrey as lying under the guilt of such an Heresie What All denying the Lord Jesus Christ Consc Mr. Conformity cannot a man speak of a generality but he must needs name particulars And you know that generals have their exceptions And when a generality is mentioned let all particulars look to it But what if there be a generality and that of Protestants so called in the land which will be found to overthrow Christs Kingly Office Conf. What if say you what if the sky fall Nay I dare say yea and swear too that not any one of this generality you mean doth or dare deny Christs Kingly office and prerogative I have often heard them in publick to give Christ the title of King and to speak of his kingdom and they every where confesse and professe him to be King of his Church So as such a charge would argue as much malice as untruth Consc And I have heard them say as much as you say But is saying sufficient Yea I have heard them say That all Church-members must be Saints that all Churches be equal none have jurisdiction over other that Gods Word is the only rule of Reformation and many such principles about Churches they confesse in words So Christ to be King But if this be all it may prove little better then the Jews putting a purple robe upon Christ with a crown of thorns on his head and a reed for a scepter in his hand with Hail King of the Jewes but for all this crucified him so that you confesse Christ to be King and crucifie his true subjects Again you know the Pharisees said many things well but they did them not And doth not the Scripture speak of such as * professe they know God but in works deny him Whence we observe a twofold deniall of God one in words another in deeds Now I do not say that the generality doth in words deny Christs Kingly office but this I affirm that in works they deny him Conf. Sir how do you prove that or how doth that Scripture reach to those you speak of Consc A question opportunely put And therefore if you turn to the 14 15 verses immediately foregoing you may observe what manner of persons those were whom the Apostle there speaks of and upon what occasion For that Chapter being to set forth the office of a Bishop or Pastor of a particular Church or Congregation and how he should be qualified and gifted and the Church governed the Apostle willeth Titus to warn the Christians Not to give heed to Iewish fables and commandements of men that turn from the truth Where he ranks the commandements of men in Church-matters manners and government with Iewish fables as which do turn men away from the truth and so from Christ as he also sheweth at large Col. 2 8. 20. 22. and throughout the whole Chapter So as to set up the Commandements of men in formes of worship or of Church-government being Christs spirituall kingdom is to separate men from Christ Col. 2. 19. and to make them unbelieving Tit. 1. 14. and impure in minde and conscience V. 15. yea abominable and disobedient and unto every good work reprobate Vers 16. All which I commend to your more sad and serious consideration Master Conformity Conf. I confesse this is a terrible Scripture to those that lye under the condemnation of it But I hope those whom you mean are no such men for first you confesse they deny not in words Christs Kingly office and for any deniall in works you have not yet proved nor I hope can Consc I have nothing to do with your hope But whereas you would make it my confession that they deny not in words Christs Kingly office neither doe I absolutely confesse so much For though I confesse I have heard them upon occasion being put to it in words to confesse Christ to be King of his Church yet I have heard them again say and have read it in their books and they maintain it tooth and nail that Christ hath left the forms of worship and Church government unto men to be so framed as is most suitable to the conditions of the people or the laws of each State binding all the subjects thereof and that under severe penalties to an universall conformity or uniformity Conf. Why sir hath not Christ left that power and liberty to those that are in authority as Synods to frame and compose forms of worship and Church-government such as they judge fittest having an eye to the Scripture and the civill Magistrate to confirm the same by law Consc The Pope indeed arrogating to himself all power in Heaven and Earth over Churches and Kingdoms makes his claim from Scripture As * Thou art Peter c. Therefore his successor the Pope is the Rock whereon the Church is built So here are two swords therefore the Pope hath power of both the swords So
they give to their General or National Assembly supreme power not only over their Parochial Classical and Provincial assemblies but even over the Parliament it self For not only they take the power to appoint both time and place for the convening of their Ecclesiastical assemblies as 2. Book of Discipline chap. 7. But they say moreover in the same chap. For this Orders cause they may make certain Rules and Constitutions appertaining to the good behaviour of all the members of the Kirk in their vocation And this they do without the Civil Magistrate Nay more chap. ibid. They have power also to abrogate and abolish all Statutes and Ordinances concerning Ecclesiastical matters that are found noysome and unprofitable and agree not with the time or are abused by the people And again in the same book chap. 12. The National Assemblies of this Country called commonly the General Assemblies ought alwayes to be retained in their own liberty and have their own place with power to the Kirk to appoint times and places convenient for the same And all men as well Magistrates as Inferiors to be subject to the Judgement of the same in Ecclesiastical causes without any reclamation or appellation to any Judge civil or Ecclesiastical within the Realm Thus in reference to the Spiritualty or the Church they make no bones to set up in their National Assembly the same Papal power which the Pope himself claimeth over Kings Princes States Kingdoms Commonweals And Mr. Rutherford in his * Government of the church of Scotland chap. 20. p. 312. tels us That though none in this grand assembly have decisive voyces save only Commissioners yet the Acts of the Assembly oblige all the absents not present in all their members and that because whatsoever is by those Commissioners determined and concluded is matter necessary and agreeable to Gods word as being no lesse infallible then those decisions of the Apostles Act. 15. All which Conformity I commend to thee when in thy best senses And because thou art apt to be overtaken with a supine drowsines pleasing thy self with thy dreams of becomming a King when once thou art gotten up into the saddle or throne of a Kirk National-Assembly let me awaken thee by pricking thy dull sides that thou mayest be at least convinced of that spirit of Antichristian pride and tyranny of rebellion and treason in lifting up a Papal throne above the Kings and Kesars above Kingdoms and Commonweals to the enslaving of the whole Nation in their souls bodies and estates For whosoever shall not in all things conform to the constitutions of that generall Kirk assembly when once the horn is blown then ipso facto imprisonment confiscation of goods banishment and what not Now Conformity doth Gods word hold forth any such Kirk fashions What To overrule Civil States and Kingdoms What That all Kirk laws and constitutions mustneeds be such as are both necessary and agreeable to the Word of God What To set up in the Kirk an Oracle of Infallibility and a Pontifician supremacy and Antichristian tyrannie and all under the name of a Christian Presbyterian Kirk-government But because this perhaps moves thee not I will remit thee to the supreme Bar of this Kingdom there to receive thy doom in case thou dost obstinately and madly persist in thy importunate clamours to have that Presbyterian government set up and thereby our fundamental lawes priviledges and power of Parliaments liberties and freedom of all true bred English subjects brought under perpetual bondage worse then that either of Egypt or Babylon But I passe on 2. For us You may know Conformity that we are not the setters up of that Religion you charge us with but it is that which we find to be set up by Christ and his Apostles which they did without leave from the Civil power or from the Ecclesiastical or mixt Synedrion as before Secondly though the Kingdom of Christ be indeed over all the kingdoms of the world yet all the subjects of this kingdom as they are the subjects of this or that civill State so they owe civill obedience thereunto but as they belong to Christs kingdome they are free from the civil power in point of religion owing subjection only to Christ and if the civil power usurp over any of them they yield themselves to suffer with patience without resistance Conf. Conscience I like thee well for this yet But you tell us strange things of Church-assemblies Consc Not more strange then true Read their books and be wise And for our suffering which thou likest so well it is no more then what Christ and his Apostles both taught practised and wherein all the Martyrs followed them Conf. I will better consider of what you say But do you not condemn the Magistrate when you say he usurps over you Consc No I condemn him not that is for God to do who is the supreme Judge of the world Conf. Why what limits hath God set to the Magistrate Consc Read Deut. 17. 18 19. and that from v. 13. to the end of the chap. to wit the whole law of God So also what bonds and bounds their own conscience and the terror of the great Judge and their sacred oath and solemn covenant and stipulation with the people and not only Gods law but the civil lawes of the kingdome do put upon them you cannot be ignorant Conf. But what if the Civil state hath made a-law to inhibi● and restrain all men and that under severe penalty from the observation of any other form of Religion and Church government then that which it hath established by law with a necessity of uniformity and conformity thereunto imposed upon all the subjects of the kingdom Doth the Magistrate sin in seeing this law executed And without such a government what Order will you have in your Churches or what coercive power in the case either of heresie or schisme Consc Do you question the Magistrates sin when his law is against the law of God and the liberty of a Christian who is the subject of Christs kingdom For here we are to distinguish between a subject of Christs spiritual kingdom and a meer subject of the civil State He that is a meer subject of the civil state acknowledging no superior power above it his conscience though blind bids and binds him to obey but he that is a true subject of Christs kingdom being also a subject of the civil State owes a twofold obedience one to the Civil State another to Christ According to that of Christ Render unto Caesar the things that are Caesars and unto God the things that are Gods Nor doth the order or disorder in churches as churches put any difference between the having or not having of a civil power In the Apostolick churches there were both heresies and schismes 1 Cor. 11. 18 19. 1 Joh. 2. 19. whith the civil power took no cognisance of Nay it was and may be as apt to persecute the
truth as to censure or restrain either heresie or schisme or apostacie And Christs government is sufficient in all Church-cases whatsoever Conf. But who in a Christian civil State do not acknowledge Christ as superior Consc This is sufficiently resolved before Such as conform to a State religion or a State church-government make that the supreme law and lord over their conscience and so exclude Christs supremacie Enough is said of that But you cut me off from what I was about to adde Mans nature is too prone to idolize the Power so as to make it as the shadow of the bramble in Jothams parable under which to ease themselves of the labour to search into the Scriptures and so to come to know what they believe most men pinning their Religion upon the sleeve either of the Priest as the Papists do or also of the Magistrate as our common Protestants do wrapping all up in an implicite faith and blind obedience according to your Remonstrance that urgeth conformity to the religion and government of Christ already established or which shall be set up Thus it was enough for the Pharisees to say * We have a law and by that law Christ ought to dye Thus Christ must not be God because the Roman Senate according to their law formerly made had not first motion'd it or passed their vote for it before Tiberius Caesar had commended it to them namely to admit of Christ into their Pantheon to take place among their gods And is it not even so with us Must not Christ be King of the Jews only because by an act of State as before they will not have this man to reign over them And Christ must not be God because the Roman Senate had not pre-resolved it And so Christ must not be sole Lord over the conscience nor sole Law giver of his Church nor his Word the sole rule of worship of Christs Kingly government of his spiritual kingdom in the conscience and Churches of the Saints nor indeed Christs kingdom spiritual because the Sate hath made a law which must rule the conscience in point of forms of worship and of Church-government that Christs kingdom must be worldly perpetually entaild to a whole Nation making up one Nationall Church the form whereof worldly and the materials worldly as either no Saints at all or else all Saints because all nominall Christians and all this and much more because the civill State by the instigation of men Ecclesiasticall or Civill domesticall or forein hath so ordaind it Conf. Well Conscieuce I now perceive that fame is no lyar I have now heard thee my self and much more then ever I heard before and such things as my stomack is no way able to digest but that I must needs go ease it by acquainting those whom it specially concerns with what thou hast here delivered And so farewell Consc Nay stay Conformity and this withall take with thee First I would have thee know that speaking so freely to thee I was not so simple as not to imagine thou wouldst divulge all nay in truth I have spoken all this to thee to that very purpose that thou shouldst communicate it if possible so far as the Sun shines but first to thine at home as thou sayest But thus much let me intreat of thee 1. That thou wouldst not do any thing this way in malice lest thou adde to thy sin Secondly that thou wouldst speak nothing but truth and the whole truth and that without aggravations whereof there is no need especially when thou speakest to thy friends of Conscience and much more of things of this nature too harsh for delicate ears And thirdly assure them from Conscience that what I have here spoken to thee it is out of pure zeale for the honour of Christ out of pure charity to the persons concerned out of pure piety to see my native country in such a perishing estate and the honour of England to lie in the dust out of pure hatred of hypocrisie idolatry pride covetousnes ambition treachery and treason walking up and down in long robes And in a word to deliver if no more yet mine own soul in discharge of my duty to God and my country as a poor Minister of Christ by witnessing the truth and convincing error And for a close of all Conformity If thou desirest Peace with Truth as we all should do If thou wouldest have me to hold correspondence with thee and to give thee the right hand of fellowship If thou desirest that desirable reconciliation of our differences First renounce thy name of Conformity in thy sense and conform not to this world but to Gods word let that be the Cynosure or Pole-star of that Vniformity of Churches ACCORDING TO THE WORD OF GOD as in our late Covenant And this thou shalt do if I say not if thou dost shake off the fear and favour of men the love of the world of honours pleasures riches preferments ambition of greatnesse of domination over Gods people Nor if thou castest out that old spirit of bondage under the Prelates lest it turn into a more dangerous tyrannie then that of the Prelacie as being more refined and going under the plausible name of Reformation Nor do I say if thou becommest a self denying man taking up thy crosse daily to follow Christ without all which notwithstanding thou canst not be his true disciple follower or enjoy true fellowship with him But this I say and urge as being the main Fundamental and Essential of a true right visible church of Christ If thou confessest Christ in all that he is If thou givest him his due honour in submitting thy conscience only and wholly to him with profession thereof and not to any humane power and as to the only Lawgiver of his church and kingdom to order and establish it with judgement and justice for ever and to his Word as the only law and rule of the government of that kingdom and the only Judge to appeale unto in all doubts and controversies of faith And if thou shalt confesse every church and congregation of Christ to be only and immediately under Christs jurisdiction and not subject to any other church or churches which are so many Sisters not Mistresses lest otherwise we set up the Spouse above or in stead of her husband Christ If I say thou wilt confesse and hold forth this in thy publike profession preaching and practice of it Then though thy Churches have many other defects yet if they have the beeing and constitution of true churches of Christ for matter and form I shall not scruple to hold communion with thee But otherwise so long as thou walkest not up to Christ in not acknowledging and avowing all that he is in not giving him his due honour in all things and especially in not setting him up in his Royal throne without a consort How can we entertain communion with you For * Farewell Religion where
CONFORMITIES DEFORMJTY In a Dialogue between CONFORMITY and CONSCIENCE Wherein the main Head of all the Controversies in these times concerning Church-Government is asserted and maintained as without which all Reformation is headlesse and all Reconciliation hopelesse Dedicated by HENRY BURTON to the honour of Jesus Christ as the first-fruits of his late recovery from death to life as a testimony of his humble and thankfull acknowledgement of so great a mercy And published for the service of all those that love the Lord Iesus Christ in sincerity Scripture-Warnings for England if not too late ESA. 1. 5. Why should you be stricken any more Ye will revolt more and more the whole head is sick and the whole heart faint ESA. 29. 9 10. Stay your selves and wonder Cry ye out and cry They are drunken but not with wine they stagger but not with strong drink For the Lord hath poured out upon you the spirit of deep sleep and hath closed your eyes the Prophets and your Rulers the Seers hath he covered EZICH 22. 23 c. Son of man say unto her Thou art the land that is not cleansed nor rained upon in the day of indignation There is a conspiracie of her Prophets in the midst thereof like a roaring Lyon ravening the prey Her Priests have violated my law and put no difference between the holy and profane Her Princes in the midst thereof are like wolves ravening the prey to shed blood and to destroy souls to get dishonest gain And her Prophets have daubed them with untempered mortar seeing vanity and divining lies saying Thus saith the Lord when the Lord hath not spoken The people of the land have used oppression and exercised robbery And I sought for a man to stand in the gap that I should not destroy the land but I found none HOS. 7. 11. Ephraim so England London is like a silly Dove without heart they call to Egypt they go to Assyria ESA. 1. 21. How is the faithful City become an harlot It was full of Judgement Righteousnesse lodged therein but now ●●●●●erers Thy silver is become drosse thy wine mixt with water thy Princes are rebellious and companions of theeves O homines ad servitutem parati Tacitus O men fitted for slavery said Tiberius of the Roman Senate so yielding he found their degenerate spirits to become slaves to his tyranny As Rome was in Livies time of which he said That neither the Maladies nor Remedies could be endured So is England now London Printed for Giles Calvert at the Black Spread-Eagle neer the West end of Pauls 1646. To the Right Honourable The LORD MAIOR of the City of LONDON Right Honourable THis Title salutes you as Lord Major in relation to your Place Office which being Honourable then much more when true worth and vertue makes the Person Right Honourable as in title so in reality Otherwise such usual Titles are but empty founds being but Civil complements and not of any Moral notion As it was the custome of the Heathen to style those their Benefactors who were their Oppressors Christians should not use such flattery For my part I have taken this boldnesse to salute your New Lordship without giving flattering titles lest as Elih● said my Maker should soon take me away And in truth such Places and Titles of Honour as these being well weighed do somewhat resemble the Crown which Henry the 7. of this Realm finding at Bosworth field to be flung in a Thorn-bush said He that knew the weight and cares of a Crown would not stoop to take it up And though your Cap of Maintenance come short of a Crown yet into such times are we fallen as may make your Cap to your self at least being truly sensible of it as heavy as a Crown And if I may speak plainly my apprehensions the well-being and safety not only of this City but even of our fair England claimeth and loudly cals for of you an honourable wise and faithfull execution of your Majoralty this very year all mens expectations being erect some with hope and some with fear according to their severall interests But with what minds soever and for what ends Men made choice of you at this time this we are sure of That Jesus Christ the Lord of heaven and earth who hath all power in his hands as King of Kings and Lord of Lords who raiseth up and throweth down again hath in his wisdome called you to this place at this time to do his will and not your own And therefore in this high and important office and this juncture of time what need have you of another heart and another spirit then your own it being dangerous especially in steep and slippery places to be led by Mens spirits and of new principles from heaven to be put into you as we read of Saul who had another heart given unto him so as he was turned into another man so soon as he was annointed King and all to furnish you with such qualifications of wisdome understanding and the fear of God as may in the due execution and faithfull discharge of your office declare to all the world that your main aimes and ends are more for Gods glory then your own and more for the publike good then for your own private and more to gratifie good men then others though never so high or great and whose designs drive at nothing more then ruine confusion For we are not ignorant what diabolical plots are on foot and how ripe for execution and what kind of Counsellers and active Spirits your Chair and Table yea and Bedchamber too will be haunted withall if experience deceive us not And you shall find their ordinary counsels to drive at two main things yet both reduced under one head to wit Tyranny the one Tyranny over our Bodies Estates Freeholds Liberties Lawes and Birth-rights of all English free-born Subjects the other Tyranny over our Soules and Consciences which are CHRIST's peculiar freeholds and purchase and subject to no other Law Lordship or Kingdome but Christs alone And in truth my Lord in this respect you are in a hard condition in case you should by any importunity be perswaded to interpose as a Judge in the matter of Religion and especially in the point of Church-Government the main controversie of these times as wherein you have been little versed considering how few there be that come to preach before you who set themselves to open unto you this great mysterie of Christs Kingly office and government over Consciences and Churches But on the contrary such as Ignorants most admire and adore as gods upon earth do withhold this truth of God concerning his Sons Kingly government from you nay though under other terms do publikely in your solemn assemblies exclaim against it shut it out of their churches will not suffer others to preach or print it with their good wils but do exasperate and incense you against all those that hold forth this
truth in the glory and excellency of it this being that very Kingdom of which Christ said Woe be to you Soribes and Pharisees hypocrites for ye shut up the Kingdom of Heaven against men for ye neither go in your selves nor suffer ye them that are entring to go in But my Lord you are a lover of Peace as that part of your Speech upon your Election in the Hall declared and we all believe it when you said That you would endeavour to have Vnity for which you propounded two wayes either by Intreaty or by Force Indeed in such a case and for your place Intreaty is very commendable but if you think by Force to compose the differences that will prove none of Gods wayes nor to lie within your sphere as I dare say you abhorre to be a persecutor of those that are the promoters of Christs honour And being a thing not pertaining to the office especially of a Christian Magistrate I need not tell you what befell Vzzah for stretching out his hand to stay the trembling Ark And now that I have been thus far bold with your Lordship which hath proceeded meerly from a hearty desire that you may not be carried with the strong tide of the times by any malignant spirit filling your sailes through many under-water Rocks and Shelves endangering not only the splitting of your own Vessel but the total ship wrack of this floating State Give me leave further to beseech you that as you love your own self and soul and family and posterity your native Country the Honour of this City and Nation you would improve the whole power of your Office among other evils for the not only suppressing but utter obliterating out of all records of memory or mention that late Remonstrance of London which like the Trojan horse is stuffed with such matter as if the importunity of some might have its desire would unavoidably hale in ruine both to City and Country Nor doth any thing more clearly demonstrate that spiritual Judgement of blindnesse and hardnesse of heart to be upon all those who have their heads and hands in that Remonstrance and wilfully still persist in the prosecution of it now in cold blood Than the unnaturall hating and hunting after the destruction of those very men as our mortal enemies who have with the extreme hazard of their lives been honoured of God to be the Preservers both of Them our City and Country and on the other side the high esteem and honouring of those as our faithfullest friends who are part-takers with Murtherers with Rebels with Traitors Incendiaries Underminers of our Parliaments and consequently of the State of the Kingdom Dividers between the Parliament and City that themselves may reigne whose violent and fraudulent practises proclaim them to be not friends but such as in whom to put the least confidence is to trust in the Reed of Egypt whereon if a man lean it will pierce him through And therefore for these many and weighty considerations both in a due respect to your Lordship and hearty zeal for the honour and safety both of Parliament City Kingdome fuller of dangers and enemies at this day then by reason of that spirit of blindnesse and deep sleep wherein our City hath of late been sweetly lulled by the strong charms of fair false friends flatteries we are aware of I have in the name of Jesus Christ humbly commended this small Book to your Lordship that therein I might discharge the duty of a poor Watchman to awaken you in the first place and consequently all of that Court and Counsel with you to look out and inward too for the speedy preventing of all those imminent dangers which otherwise will suddenly surprise us and take us napping in the deep of our too credulous security For the Spirit of that Ten-horned Beast is now making war with the Lamb which is likely to be his last war Babylons fall following in the next chap. this Spirit warreth under new colours not red but white whose Word is REFORMATION and this under a fair colour of a Covenant by vertue whereof pretending a just title to the War he hopes by the help of the Remonstrance and the prime authors thereof and their adherents to erect a new Bestial tyrannie over souls bodies estates under new names and notions But the issue is The Lamb shall overcome them for he is Lord of Lords and King of Kings and they that are with him are called Chosen and Faithfull And my Lord you shall find in this Book Conformity to be the Mystery of iniquity the mother of all mischief the cause of all our present calamities and the forerunner and hastener of our ruine if we repent not if our Lord Iesus Christ prevent not which certainly he will because himself is the Great and Almighty General whose Cause and Name is mainly engaged in this warre Now the Lord Iesus Christ give you the Spirit of wisdom well to consider and lay to heart these things which that you may do is and shall be the hearty prayer of Your Lordships most humble servant HENRY BURTON A DIALOVGE Between CONFORMITY and CONSCIENCE Conformities Soliloquie Conformity Who is this that comes along Surely by his habit and gate it should be one that according as I have often heard him described by many is called Conscience And to be sure I will be so bold as to salute him and ask his name And if it be indeed that Conscience I mean and that he will afford me so much patience I will enter into further discourse with him Conformity YOu are well met Sir Conscience And you also Conf. Sir I pray you pardon my boldnesse to crave your Name For as I came along I conceived from what I had heard that you should be the man called Conscience Consc My name is Conscience Conf. Now I am glad of this happy opportunity to meet you of whom I have heard so much talk abroad in the world Consc Why what talk hath the world of me Conf. Sir I pray you be not offended and I will tell you The World generally saith of you that you are the only troubler of the State Consc Is it therefore true because the world saith it So Ahab called the Prophet Eliah the Troubler of Israel so the Jewes said of Christ that he was a perverter and stirrer up of the people So when this Lambe of God the King of the Jewes was born Herod and all Jerussilem were troubled at it Why so Was it this King that troubled them or their own guilty consciences in usurping this Kingdom Alas Sir this is no news that where ever the fame of this King and of his kingdom commeth in the powerfull preaching of the Gospel of the kingdom it brings with it trouble and terrom to the world or to any State And as it was with Herod and the Priests at Jerusalem at the birth of this King so at his death they could