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A90474 An antidote against the contagious air of independency. Shewing I. Six sufficient grounds, why they ought to revoke their schismaticall principles. II. Six paralells betwixt theirs and the Iesuiticall practices. / By D.P.P. Feb. 13. 1644. Imprimatur Ja: Cranford. D. P. P. 1645 (1645) Wing P15; Thomason E270_3; ESTC R202030 11,261 26

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rest of the Ecclesiastive Orders of the Roman Church be they Priests Monks or Friers and are generally hated of them all for their extream ambition and griping coveteousnesse Even so wheresoever the Independants are admitted they impover shall their Brethren of the Ministry for they draw from them after a mercinary way the fattest and the best wooll'd sheep they have in their flock to increase the contributions of their private congregations Moreover they are generally hated of their neighbours for their vain ostentation and avarice for although they would be accounted to be humble yet they will not give way to the best but will have their own opinion to be reputed as a law and their arguments although they are sometime weak ridiculous to be infallible and for their Avarice it is apparent for their revenew exceeds the best Parish Cures V. THe Jesuits wheresoever they come foment divisions and contentions both in Church and in Common-wealth because they love to fish in muddy waters even so the Independants wheresoever they come they foment discord in Church and Common-wealth for proof of it we need no other then our own experience for since they are come from Holland and America they have increased our divisions and retarded by the one moity of the time the establishing of the Directory of the Discipline of the Church and of the true Reformation And their separation and their gathering of private congregations hath incouraged the Sectaries in their erronious wayes that for one Anabaptist or Antinomian that was among us when they came over there is now ten VI. AS the Jesuits have an extraordinary opinion of themselves even so have the Independants a certain immovable self-conceitednesse * Witnes ● W. concerning his name of their own sufficiency and Sanctity was it not a self-conceitednesse of them to disassent to the Presbyteriall Government when all their Arguments and Reasons to maintain their new way have been confuted and sufficiently answered Or is it not rather an unheard of obstinacy that six of them should oppose and controul the Judgement and opinion of threescore and ten as Learned and Religious Ministers as themselves And is it not a dangerous conceit of their Sanctity to separate themselves from their Parish congregations because a few of unworthy receivers are admitted by the ignorance or the carelesnesse of the Church officers surely these proceedings of theirs do bear evidence against them that they are as well conceited of themselves as the Pharisee Luk. 18.11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with him self God I thank thee that I am not as other men are extortioners unjust adulterers or even as this Publicane c. Because they consider not that humility self-deniall are the two fairest flowers of the Christian Garland and a most certain signe of a true hearted Nathaniel These are the aspersions that are daily cast upon the Independants that should induce them for the time to come to be more circumspect of their wayes then they have been heretofore for men begin to take notice of their Carriage and to abstain from renting in pieces as they have done formerly the Mysticall Body of Christ but rather to endeavour with all humility and with the spirit of meeknesse Acts all chap. 2. to be with one accord and assent assistant and yoak-fellows with their brethren of the Ministery to establish the Presbyteriall Discipline in the Church that is in all probability the way to advance Gods glory the good of his Church and the Peace and the Unity of these three Kingdoms and to increase his sacred Majesties honor and to lay a sure foundation for his gracious Posterity to be the Monarchs of Albion as long as the Sun and Moon shall endure whereas if they continue in their wilfulnesse and obstinacy God notwithstanding their traversing endeavors will bring this great worke of Reformation to a blessed period in his due time and they shall see it but as the Prophet Elisha said to the lord on whose hand the King leaned Thou shalt see it with thine eyes 2 Kings 7.2 but shalt not eat thereof so except they repent from their former wayes and endeavour with their brethren of the Ministry to root out of this Kingdom these numerous swarmes of Sectaries that infest the Aire of the Land with their erroneous and blasphemous opinions they may see this Reformation effected in their dayes but shall never reap or eat of the fruits of it but shall be enforced to return in exile from whence they came except they return as I have said unto the Lord and prefer the advance of his glory before their own ends FJNJS Errata Page 8. line 13. for supported read suppressed
presently after the most perfidious Traitor that ever breathed upon earth if separation had been so necessary to be observed Moreover although the Church of the Corinthians was polluted with such an incestuous person as was not so much as named among the Gentiles yet we do not read that the Saints of that Church did seperate their selves but only excommunicated him for a time according to Saint Pauls direction that the Spirit might be (m 1 Cor. 5.1.5 saved in the day of the Lord Jesus c. Neither do we read of any separation of the Saints in the seven primitive Churches of Asia although there were divers among them infected with the erronious opinions of the Balaamites and of the (n) Rev. 2.14.15 Nicholaitans c. I do not deny but the true children of God are to seperate themselves from the company frequentation and familiarity of all profane men and notorious sinners because they are as the Prophet Jeremiah saith to take forth the precious from the vile (o) Ier. 15.19 that they may be as the mouth of God c. But this separation is a peculiar separation and not a Publike or a generall separation of the Church this confirmes the first point that I have spoken of that there is nothing more dangerous for a Christian to inhabit or to be familliarly acquainted or conversant with Sectaries profane Licentious and impious men for as it is impossible for us to handle pitch without our hands be stained and besmeared with it even so it is impossible to converse with the wicked without we be in time accessary to some one or other of their wicked actions and the like to converse familiarly or to go constantly to bear the Independants Sermons without one be tainted with the contagious air of their Positions IV. THis New-way and the Separation of Independants from their Parish-Churches is an incouragement to all the Separatists Brownists Anabaptists Antinomians Socinians and Libertines that are in and about the City for they shelter themselves under their name and when they are taken in their Conventicles by some of the publique Officers and inforced to answer for themselves they affirm to be Independants to cover their Heresies it being an ordinary thing among the wicked to disguise themselves under the name of such that are reputed to bee more sincere then themselves for although the Independants gather congregations and separate themselves from their Parish congregations as the Sectaries do yet they ar● for the greater part sound in Doctrine and dissent from us onely in Discipline but the Sectaries are Erroneous both in Doctrine and Discipline and draw daily upon our heads the just judgement of God because we connive at their Errors and suffer them to infect the simple people with their contagious Tenents Now these disguisements and fallacies of the Sectaries should in my opinion induce the Independants to a holy indignation and detest to be any longer the harbour of such Vermine or the President or Patron of their Separation from the Church of God for if they are demanded why they dismember themselves their answer is That the greatest Precisians in the Kingdom have taught them the way And surely if it were unlawfull say they such Learned and Religious Men as they are would not be example of offence and of evil to others and by this means are a stumbling block to them and the cause that the wicked are hardened in the wayes of Errour and Impiety V. THis revealed Discipline i● inferior to the Presbyteriall-Government in this point That the effects of the Issue is uncertain whereas the Presbyteriall is approved by the happy successe it hath had for many yeers in Switzerland France Holland and Scotland But this is a meer Novelty that may be compared to the projects of some yong Mathematician drawn upon paper that promise much but when they are to be put in practise are ordinarily of no use at all Or like to some of our Engineer Models that seem to promise in a small form divers rare effects As for the elevation of Water above her naturall spring which seems a thing impossible according to humane reason Or to raise a piece of Timber or a great stone of a thousand weight from the ground to the top of a structure with a small Engine that may be carryed in a mans hand But when by the proofs of these small Modells they have with much ado induced an undertaker to have them made in great with extraordinary charges there is not one among a hundred when they are set up that prove to be successfull because some Spring Wheel or Counterpoise is either too weake too small or too light to indure the violent motion of it whereby it is presently rent in pieces and the charges of the credulous undertaker cast away even so it would fall out with this new revealed way if our supreame Magistrates were so credulous as to trie the operation of it the which the Lord prevent for although it might be effectuall in some small congregations in Holland or some small Boroughs in America yet it would certainly be destructive to this populous Kingdom and would prove like Platos Common-weale beautifull in conceits and imaginations but altogether unusefull and as impossible to be put in practise among us as that was among the Athenians VI. THis new way would rather increase our divisions and miseries then lessen them for of all sorts of governments whether they be civill or Ecclesiasticall a Democraticall forme is most apt to foment and breed divisions and contentions witnesse the Democraticall Common-weales of the Athenians Aetolians and Achaians that were of small continuance and alwayes tossed up and down with Civill contentions (p) Thusides History as the rowling billows of a tempestuous sea and fell sundry times under the yoke of Tyrants Now if this new way should take place and every Pastor with his Elders to be absolute over their congregation we should as the French proverb saith fall from a Quotidian to a burning Feaver and for one Hierarchy of Prelates raise 9324. of Independants as I said before for there are so many Parishes in this Kingdom and they cannot conveniently be reduced in a lesser number of congregations Now what Unity can be expected among so many Law-lesse men whose actions and doctrine are not to be controuled by any civill or Ecclesiasticall Authority I leave it to the consideration of the Reader for if great Princes that are of a more noble education and of a more ingenious inclination are subject to become Tyrants when they feare neither Lawes nor men as Tacitus the great Politician Records of the Emperor Tiberius and of the Emperour Nero what may be expected of meaner men * Tacitus Tiberius saith he kept himself in a kinde of moderation as long as Livia his mother lived and so did Nero all the life time of his mother Agrippina but as soon as Livia died of her naturall death and